Fish Id please!!

[Cephas27]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/17/d40d0db1b909382b6d631f9166201c95.jpg

[donut0079]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/17/73941011c575c354b59eda49c91c7e0a.jpgmaybe a blue gudgeon dartfish

[jchassie6312]

That looks right to me

[Saltliquid]

looks more like a Ptereleotris microlepis.
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss69/SEQdivespots/Ptereleotri_zpshrvedluy.jpg

[donut0079]

I agree my maybe was because of the stripes on the face and that appears to have them

[Johnnycat]

A little background on where it came from would help - geographical location, depth, etc. if you caught it yourself.

[Cephas27]

Thanks guys for the responses.. I really don't know much detail about the fish.. One of the fish dealers send me this pic saying it is neon goby. Which I knew it wasn't

[Cephas27]

Another image if it helpshttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/17/4ff51965689f15f4d88c7d540120d53b.jpg

[hotelbravo]

that looks like the same photo

[Saltliquid]

Nice looking fish, good addition, the darts are always cool when matched up nicely.

[Bent]

People that handle fish **** me off.

Maybe if the dude took a pic of it at some point when it wasnt actively suffocating, maybe we could figure it out?

[anthonys51]

its not the first fish, the fins totally different.
as for the the second fish, fins also look different. see ow it looks like it starts higher then goes lower, pus fish has yellow dorsal fins Ptereleotris microlepis doesnt

[Saltliquid]

its not the first fish, the fins totally different.
as for the the second fish, fins also look different. see ow it looks like it starts higher then goes lower, pus fish has yellow dorsal fins Ptereleotris microlepis doesnt


When semi see through material like fins collapse and gather or anything really, the colour intensifies just like if your skin shrinks by loosing a lot of weight a tattoo will semi intensify in colour, sort of.
The defining colour or mark is, look at the dark line at the edge of the gill in both pics, it’s a microlepis!
Plus there is age and sex of fish to make a slight difference as well.

[Saltliquid]

Donut0079, I worked in the commercial collection of marine life for over 16 years and have collected recreationally for an extra 20 years and all of us collectors-commercial or not handle fish with bare hands.
By the look of your hands you had them in the water for while catching the fish, this makes your skin PH similar to the water and temperature to a degree as well for a time, placing the fish on your hand is fine, just not for too long is best, oh plus most fish take quite a while to suffer by not taking oxygen from the water.
Any way nice looking fish, we get some nice looking goby/dartfish here, i don't keep the darts, i pass them on, these tanks i have now, i built them all wrong for them, they jump out of these ones.
These are my fav gobies, these ones don’t jump out, lol.
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss69/SEQdivespots/10a%20All%20dive%20picks%202013%20from%20July%20and%202014/valenciennea-longipinnis-go_zpse7dcd2a6.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss69/SEQdivespots/1ab%20dive%20photos%20from%20October%202014/goby-_zps30456f38.jpg

[donut0079]

Cephas 27 was the original poster on this thread but that is some very good info there liquidg

[anthonys51]

liquid, thought fish where uglier and less colorful out of water. mostly becuase they loose their color because they are scared. just like when you put a new fish in, in the bag he is ugly sometimes and when he first gets in your tank. you seem a lot more experince than me, so just asking

[Cephas27]

Thank a lot for the info guys.. But apparently I will never know for sure what the fish is like as someone already bought it... I was too late apparently!![emoji20]

[Saltliquid]

liquid, thought fish where uglier and less colorful out of water. mostly becuase they loose their color because they are scared. just like when you put a new fish in, in the bag he is ugly sometimes and when he first gets in your tank. you seem a lot more experince than me, so just asking

If you catch a fish and take it out of the water, most don’t actual show stress/ camouflage colours like in the water.
When in stress in the bag or fresh to the tank they try to remain obscure and that is also labelled stress colours, yes they may feel fear sort of, but its not like most folks think it is!
Stress impacts or organs and blood flow and both affects colours a time goes on due to the fishes very basic adreno gland, if you could call it that, like us sort of and this action puts abundant cortisol into the blood stream like ours called adrenaline signalling the fish to shunt blood to vital parts and can look washed out and begin to die and it may take days to months for this to kill them.
The time line of full on stress that kills fish via stress related issues has to be in action for at least 48 hours and if gill functions are rapid for that time as well, the gills malfunction and the fish may go into osmotic shock and die that day or in the coming months.
Most fish when in the boat or at home as we sort them usually fire up in colouration, many look far prettier at that stage then they ever will in the tank.
Plus in sunlight or in bright lighting they look great but in standard household/shop light out of water they will not look good any way.
Quit often when the water has run off them and mucus is getting a little dryer and scale colouration is dominant, which is not good, most really look colourful.
If fish get sick they will dull, they are not sick in the hand unless it was sick for some time leading up to being held.