Fish and stress

[Copperband bt]

So I was thinking today sometimes when the fish got stress the stop eatting
That happen when the fish transfer for long distance or for any other resone
So my question is if the ammonia level goes up some types of fishes will stress
And the might stop eatting ??? Any one have such experience with that ?? Or any idea ?? I mean it's just something coming to my mind and I am looking for answer if it's right or wrong ??

[thegrun]

If you are asking will fish stop eating when they are subjected to ammonia poisoning, then I would say yes some fish will not eat when subjected to ammonia, but others will continue to eat even when ammonia is present. Is there an issue you are dealing with?

[Copperband bt]

Yes that's my question can you name some of these fishes
No there is no issu it's just question come to my mind .

[Sk8r]

If you mean butterflies, they are delicate eaters in aquarium situations and stress from another fish, bad water, toxins, or just too much activity around the tank at feeding time can affect some of the more fragile.

[CStrickland]

Don't forget that they produce ammonia when they breathe and pee too. So if you're having an ammonia problem and thinking something like they will get stressed, quit eating, and the ammonia will go away, that's not how you want to proceed.

Maybe explain a little more what brought this question to your mind?

[Copperband bt]

If you mean butterflies, they are delicate eaters in aquarium situations and stress from another fish, bad water, toxins, or just too much activity around the tank at feeding time can affect some of the more fragile.

Hmmm you mean all butterflies ?? What about tangs and Angels

[Copperband bt]

Don't forget that they produce ammonia when they breathe and pee too. So if you're having an ammonia problem and thinking something like they will get stressed, quit eating, and the ammonia will go away, that's not how you want to proceed.

Maybe explain a little more what brought this question to your mind?

I know fish produce ammoina , hmmm lets say fish in QT after couple of days you will start having ammonina if you don't do a water change is that can cause
The fishes stop eatting and what type of fish will do that ??

And it's just question and don't have any issu right now , don't have any thing
In my QT and my DT doing great it's not loaded

[Sk8r]

These are all fish with a large space requirement. Rabbits, tangs, even damsels, often have problems because they require more space than other fish of their size---because of their swimming habits and feeding habits of hit and miss down a long expanse of reef. Butterflies and angels range up and down the reef grazing, but have quite a large range, AND a specialized diet, which makes them even harder to keep well. Butterflies, of that group, are a difficult fish because of the diet, and some butterflies even more so. If you can find footage of these fish in the wild, it may become clearer whether the fish is behaving normally in the tank. Fish that have sedentary habits or that stick close to a home terrritory are much easier to deal with in a tank, but then you get the problem of the home-territory fish (damsels, eg) going ballistic if a fish of the same type comes within his imaginary boundaries. It's always a balancing act. SHape of tank, size of tank, whether long or short---even round---can make a difference. You're absolutely right to think it's important, because it is. You may have to put certain species on hold until you can get the right situation for that species---which can be a few builds down the road, or if you're lucky, now.

If you're having issues qting certain species, the bigger the qt the better, the more hiding spots you can manage the better. SOmetimes sacrificing a rock to give the detainee something to eat or peck at helps, and anything you can do to provide points of interest and a sense of place will help. Keeping the water quality spot on with daily tests is important. But also keeping the light down (except for daily examinations) and the flow pretty hefty helps. The fish will not eat while he's feeling danger. Keeping the area quiet, no heavy bass on the stereo, eg, and giving the fish a place to hide that feels secure is a good thing.

[ca1ore]

What is 'stress'? New fish will often not eat for a few days, is that stress? Other new fish may need to get used to what you are feeding, is that stress? Fish that develop disease will often stop eating, is that stress? When picked on, some fish will hide and not eat, is that stress? Some fish are more delicate and will go on hunger strikes, is that stress?

My own personal experience is that anthias, butterflyfish, Naso tang, and dwarf Angels can all be problematic to get feeding, whether stressed or not.

[Copperband bt]

These are all fish with a large space requirement. Rabbits, tangs, even damsels, often have problems because they require more space than other fish of their size---because of their swimming habits and feeding habits of hit and miss down a long expanse of reef. Butterflies and angels range up and down the reef grazing, but have quite a large range, AND a specialized diet, which makes them even harder to keep well. Butterflies, of that group, are a difficult fish because of the diet, and some butterflies even more so. If you can find footage of these fish in the wild, it may become clearer whether the fish is behaving normally in the tank. Fish that have sedentary habits or that stick close to a home terrritory are much easier to deal with in a tank, but then you get the problem of the home-territory fish (damsels, eg) going ballistic if a fish of the same type comes within his imaginary boundaries. It's always a balancing act. SHape of tank, size of tank, whether long or short---even round---can make a difference. You're absolutely right to think it's important, because it is. You may have to put certain species on hold until you can get the right situation for that species---which can be a few builds down the road, or if you're lucky, now.

If you're having issues qting certain species, the bigger the qt the better, the more hiding spots you can manage the better. SOmetimes sacrificing a rock to give the detainee something to eat or peck at helps, and anything you can do to provide points of interest and a sense of place will help. Keeping the water quality spot on with daily tests is important. But also keeping the light down (except for daily examinations) and the flow pretty hefty helps. The fish will not eat while he's feeling danger. Keeping the area quiet, no heavy bass on the stereo, eg, and giving the fish a place to hide that feels secure is a good thing.


Hmmm stringht to the point you have answer all my questiones
Thanks a lot

[Copperband bt]

What is 'stress'? New fish will often not eat for a few days, is that stress? Other new fish may need to get used to what you are feeding, is that stress? Fish that develop disease will often stop eating, is that stress? When picked on, some fish will hide and not eat, is that stress? Some fish are more delicate and will go on hunger strikes, is that stress?

My own personal experience is that anthias, butterflyfish, Naso tang, and dwarf Angels can all be problematic to get feeding, whether stressed or not.

Hmm good answer , and it's drive my to ask another one can the fish stop eatting
While it was eatting in the same time for long time .
Let's take an example let say I have fish was eatting and doing fine and one day it's stop eatting while the other do ? And there is no disease so can that happens
Cause of the ammoina can the fish stop eatting if the ammonia go up in the same tank

[CStrickland]

I know fish produce ammoina , hmmm lets say fish in QT after couple of days you will start having ammonina if you don't do a water change is that can cause The fishes stop eatting and what type of fish will do that ??

And it's just question and don't have any issu right now , don't have any thing
In my QT and my DT doing great it's not loaded

The ammonia is a poison that makes all fish sick. Some fish might keep eating even though they are sick, but it is still not ok for them. Some fish might have other problems from how they were captured or handled, or just being weaker to begin with so that the ammonia is the final blow. Idk the diff species for that.

The problem is ammonia poisoning, not whether they are eating. Like, when you can't breathe it's not so important that you are also a bit hungry.

[Copperband bt]

The ammonia is a poison that makes all fish sick. Some fish might keep eating even though they are sick, but it is still not ok for them. Some fish might have other problems from how they were captured or handled, or just being weaker to begin with so that the ammonia is the final blow. Idk the diff species for that.

The problem is ammonia poisoning, not whether they are eating. Like, when you can't breathe it's not so important that you are also a bit hungry.

Ok that what's I am looking for straight to the target
Thanks a lot