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slief
12/05/2015, 10:33 PM
This thread will be used for Bubble King Skimmer users. Post pictures of your skimmers and your system here along with some details of your system.

Here is my Supermarin 250. It's in 8.5" of water with the RD3 pump set to 37 watts. It's running on my 650 gallon heavily stocked mixed reef with about 60 fish. My tank consists of a 480 gallon display. I have an 80 gallon sump, 80 gallon refugium and a 60 gallon display refugium.

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/shleif/Tanks/Sump%20rr/image_zpsroczxbzr.jpg

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/shleif/Tanks/Sump%20rr/image_zps5tkylnc1.jpg

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/shleif/Tanks/image_zps8tp3hy64.jpeg

Confuse
12/06/2015, 09:29 AM
I'm running a Bubble King Double Cone 200 with RD3 pump on my 150g (200g total) tank. It has a very heavy bioload with a Regal Angel, Purple Tang, Yellow Tang, Moorish Idol, a Potter's Angel, 4 Bartlett Anthias, 3 Lyretail Anthias, a Starry Blenny, Mandarin Goby, Diamond Goby, and 12 wrasses of various sizes, including my beloved Earl's wrasse!

Here she is before I gave her a vinegar bath...

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/confuse123/bk2_zpsroxvepy5.jpg (http://s651.photobucket.com/user/confuse123/media/bk2_zpsroxvepy5.jpg.html)

I collect this level of gunk about every week. You absolutely can't see through it in direct sunlight.

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/confuse123/BK1_zps0en9g7wt.jpg (http://s651.photobucket.com/user/confuse123/media/BK1_zps0en9g7wt.jpg.html)

I've been running my skimmer for over a year and a half without a hiccup. It's running at about 8" of water at 36 watts. Its seriously one of the most solid investments I have ever made in my tank.


Here's a video and some pictures of my tank

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/confuse123/th_1D32B26F-DC2F-4CC2-AE5C-5F909F647411_zpsdkj5lkvm.mp4 (http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/confuse123/1D32B26F-DC2F-4CC2-AE5C-5F909F647411_zpsdkj5lkvm.mp4)

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/confuse123/3283164E-A467-4589-887B-7E2919C9F7A6_zpsdxi6uhht.jpg (http://s651.photobucket.com/user/confuse123/media/3283164E-A467-4589-887B-7E2919C9F7A6_zpsdxi6uhht.jpg.html)

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/confuse123/6D0B03EE-6F02-476D-862C-E919187B4D7A_zpsxsdqxmvo.jpg (http://s651.photobucket.com/user/confuse123/media/6D0B03EE-6F02-476D-862C-E919187B4D7A_zpsxsdqxmvo.jpg.html)

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/confuse123/8AABC1DE-1C21-4455-B019-2EEFCD3E0507_zpsickpwnsh.jpg (http://s651.photobucket.com/user/confuse123/media/8AABC1DE-1C21-4455-B019-2EEFCD3E0507_zpsickpwnsh.jpg.html)

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/confuse123/regalandpurple_zps4e6d7e1b.jpg (http://s651.photobucket.com/user/confuse123/media/regalandpurple_zps4e6d7e1b.jpg.html)

Uncle Luke
12/06/2015, 09:34 AM
Here's my BK MINI 160 on a 50 gal tank with 3 small fishes.



http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll444/tommyboy4475/image.jpg1.jpg (http://s315.photobucket.com/user/tommyboy4475/media/image.jpg1.jpg.html)

Klaus Jansen
12/06/2015, 10:15 AM
Love this Customer Pictures ...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/royal-exclusiv/Verknpfungmitjonas1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/royal-exclusiv/media/Verknpfungmitjonas1.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/royal-exclusiv/Jonas3.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/royal-exclusiv/media/Jonas3.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/royal-exclusiv/2-1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/royal-exclusiv/media/2-1.jpg.html)

best regards ... Klaus

slief
12/06/2015, 10:24 AM
Here's my BK MINI 160 on a 50 gal tank with 3 small fishes.



http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll444/tommyboy4475/image.jpg1.jpg (http://s315.photobucket.com/user/tommyboy4475/media/image.jpg1.jpg.html)

Nice Uncle Luke! Thanks for sharing! Would you mind sharing some info on your settings as far as sump depth and how many turns out on the volute you have it set with?

jcs11236
12/06/2015, 01:19 PM
Here's a pic of my bkmini 160. It is running on my 75 mixed reef. I am currently running it at 9" water level with the volute 75% closed. I run skimmer more on the wet side. I notice if I drop the water level lower than 9" I do not get much skimmate at all.

jcs11236
12/06/2015, 03:20 PM
Up close of bkmini in action

craigvh
12/06/2015, 04:30 PM
SM 250 and DC250.

http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag38/craigvh/IMAG1022_zpspw3hryvu.jpg (http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/craigvh/media/IMAG1022_zpspw3hryvu.jpg.html)

acesq
12/06/2015, 05:55 PM
Here's my SM250 with the AC pump running in 8.5 inches of water. I have the aquadriver neck cleaner and an auto shutoff in the lid. It pulls a full load twice per week. I'm running it on a 400 gal system with a 340 DT a frag tank and refugium. Pics of the tank as well.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/06/a98b9c979e9994e7f30b70f19ea32403.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/06/e4b9659c6c2985ea36a170abe03b66ca.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/06/125cf551b7b764e2baa1b83cd31bade8.jpg

danrobberg
12/06/2015, 07:04 PM
Double cone 180 with RD3 pump. Skimmer going nuts while tank cycles

jthao
12/07/2015, 07:23 AM
Can't decide which to use, playing with each one on each system to see which one performs best with each total system volume and bio load. Will update later when everything settles.

phk36
12/07/2015, 01:29 PM
Supermarin 250 Red Dragon sitting in 10 inches of water of a 75 gallon sump (wish it was a dream box). Tank size is 200 gallons with about 20 fish 335599335600335601335602335603

BfishLpond78
12/10/2015, 06:44 AM
Have my Bubble King 200 on a 190 gallon total volume tank...have kind of adapted the bubble king look underneath the tank.

Love this skimmer...dead silent...pulls nothing but mud.

Edit - This was an early shot in my build...will post some nice gunky pictures tonight

ArmanS
12/10/2015, 10:48 PM
Great to see an official BK / RE forum. I've had various BK skimmers over the years. Currently have a DC180 RD3 and couldn't be more pleased. I have it on a 180g display currently. Heavily stocked and I have to empty the collection cup twice a week!!! http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/10/6f07dd43cc484811afc966f064a77b28.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/10/83aaa4cdaab80979618dd5110bc1ced6.jpg

SchnitzelReef
12/12/2015, 08:14 AM
I have a Double Cone 250 RD3 running on my 8' 250g SPS tank. I have it sitting in 9" of water and running at 37w. Here's some pics.

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee497/nickfrick66/9A169A1F-6169-452A-8DA5-06D278195C93_zpsb2i4xglh.jpg (http://s1230.photobucket.com/user/nickfrick66/media/9A169A1F-6169-452A-8DA5-06D278195C93_zpsb2i4xglh.jpg.html)

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee497/nickfrick66/D8F312EF-8001-4332-A63B-1294ECFD415B_zpsc9hld99x.jpg (http://s1230.photobucket.com/user/nickfrick66/media/D8F312EF-8001-4332-A63B-1294ECFD415B_zpsc9hld99x.jpg.html)

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee497/nickfrick66/2C131B64-1770-44AC-9BE0-9AA9A298961D_zpsetndictz.jpg (http://s1230.photobucket.com/user/nickfrick66/media/2C131B64-1770-44AC-9BE0-9AA9A298961D_zpsetndictz.jpg.html)

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee497/nickfrick66/B7D5D767-57FC-4286-A161-4BF24BC9E9AE_zpsaawxktj8.jpg (http://s1230.photobucket.com/user/nickfrick66/media/B7D5D767-57FC-4286-A161-4BF24BC9E9AE_zpsaawxktj8.jpg.html)

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee497/nickfrick66/892FFD63-15E5-4181-8439-90D670BC4617_zpsxs5tqtjp.jpg (http://s1230.photobucket.com/user/nickfrick66/media/892FFD63-15E5-4181-8439-90D670BC4617_zpsxs5tqtjp.jpg.html)

Rogger Castells
12/12/2015, 05:05 PM
this tank originally leaked out of the seam and on version two I decided to upgrade everything including the skimmer to a SM300

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5668/23620245671_c683e23583_z.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5633/23594184982_51970b4484_z.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5730/23620249181_3245d16a6a_z.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5632/23594187832_2246e62999_z.jpg


https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5815/23334794899_231239441a_z.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/753/23074592254_dce2734a2d_z.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/781/23702710875_6cc790eaff_z.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/639/23594186402_c55a3a4700_z.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/713/23407322610_bdaa2426f1_z.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5651/23074847754_cbc1b2ba88_z.jpg

SchnitzelReef
12/13/2015, 10:32 PM
Not sure why my pics aren't showing up

SchnitzelReef
12/13/2015, 11:43 PM
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee497/nickfrick66/2C131B64-1770-44AC-9BE0-9AA9A298961D_zpsetndictz.jpg (http://s1230.photobucket.com/user/nickfrick66/media/2C131B64-1770-44AC-9BE0-9AA9A298961D_zpsetndictz.jpg.html)

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee497/nickfrick66/B7D5D767-57FC-4286-A161-4BF24BC9E9AE_zpsaawxktj8.jpg (http://s1230.photobucket.com/user/nickfrick66/media/B7D5D767-57FC-4286-A161-4BF24BC9E9AE_zpsaawxktj8.jpg.html)

ReefClownMIA
12/14/2015, 05:44 AM
Not sure why my pics aren't showing up

There may have been a photobucket issue, the images are showing up now :)

ReefClownMIA
12/15/2015, 10:01 PM
Setting up a new tank, Double Cone 180 w/ RD3, + RD3 50w for return.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/15/570e362e95a3cd2e01d519ffddfe9a20.jpg

biecacka
12/16/2015, 01:22 PM
Waiting on my double cone 200.....:bounce3::bounce3:


Corey

machodik
12/18/2015, 09:00 AM
Hi Scott,

After my water level goes down to 23.5 cm level , my skimmer inner cylinder have the bubbles level as below;

https://vimeo.com/149418702

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/18/446f05a259719a9629e9c3611a773725.jpg

I think there is not much different than the earlier 26 cm water level heigh , although I also observed the skimmate increase either in any of the said level . No overflowing though as initial expected.

Any further advise?

Cheers.

slief
12/18/2015, 09:07 AM
Hi Scott,

After my water level goes down to 23.5 cm level , my skimmer inner cylinder have the bubbles level as below;

https://vimeo.com/149418702

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/18/446f05a259719a9629e9c3611a773725.jpg

I think there is not much different than the earlier 26 cm water level heigh , although I also observed the skimmate increase either in any of the said level . No overflowing though as initial expected.

Any further advise?



Cheers.

That's looking pretty good! You could probably drop the sump level another cm or so but what I see looks pretty good to me and you're still not even completely broken in yet.

machodik
12/18/2015, 10:07 AM
Thank Scott.

I think I can not lower my water level further as the titanium tube of my coolers already expose to air and not submerged as it used to be:

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/18/1dcce11709b8a23eed2b7a6d7b055a0e.jpg

May be after it broken in then adjusting the wedge pipe opening or wattage adjustment can fix it then ?

I think as of now I have to find a way to let water level not below the 26.5 cm marked. Of coarse adding a egg crate to elevated few centimeter of my skimmer will be a solution but in as much as possible I would like my skimmer sit on the base glass.

slief
12/18/2015, 10:23 AM
Thank Scott.

I think I can not lower my water level further as the titanium tube of my coolers already expose to air and not submerged as it used to be:

May be after it broken in then adjusting the wedge pipe opening or wattage adjustment can fix it then ?

I think as of now I have to find a way to let water level not below the 26.5 cm marked. Of coarse adding a egg crate to elevated few centimeter of my skimmer will be a solution but in as much as possible I would like my skimmer sit on the base glass.

If the wedge pipe is all the way open and you can't lower the sump level further than you will need to make a stand. Before you have a nice stand made, I would suggest experimenting with egg crate material or something so you can find the sweet spot. If your wedge pipe is partially closed than opening it would lower the level in the skimmer which is the same thing that lowering the sump level would do. Ideally you adjust the sump level and keep the wedge pipe as close to wide open as possible. You can lower the pump speed which will lower the water level in the skimmer but that isn't necessarily ideal but it really boils down to how the skimmer is performing. Either way, you are over the recommended sump depth so I think you will need to raise the skimmer up on a small stand of some sort and find the sweet spot that way. This assuming you need to raise your sump level because of the titanium tubes or assuming you don't like how the skimmer is performing which to me looks pretty good. If you raise the sump depth, I think it will be skimming too wet.

reefkeeper2
12/18/2015, 11:05 AM
I've had my BK 250 internal for 10 years. I just replaced the old pump with a new RD Speedy 50 watt DC pump. Works great and only goes to prove once again you get what you pay for. I got a decade of use from the old one.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=336701&stc=1&d=1450459299

The funnell you see on top of the skimmer is there to vent the exhaust outside. I do this because I use ozone and it also helps to keep the humidity down in my basement which is where my sump is located. You can also see the cup and tray the skimmer effluent pours into after it exits the skimmer. There is a carbon pad layered on the tray and again this is because I use ozone.
Here is the latest video of my tank. It is a year and a half old now.
https://youtu.be/OXlnNycoiJ0

Here is tour of the entire sump and fish room.https://youtu.be/qvKTg663RTo

slief
12/18/2015, 11:28 AM
I've had my BK 250 internal for 10 years. I just replaced the old pump with a new RD Speedy 50 watt DC pump. Works great and only goes to prove once again you get what you pay for. I got a decade of use from the old one.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=336701&stc=1&d=1450459299

The funnell you see on top of the skimmer is there to vent the exhaust outside. I do this because I use ozone and it also helps to keep the humidity down in my basement which is where my sump is located. You can also see the cup and tray the skimmer effluent pours into after it exits the skimmer. There is a carbon pad layered on the tray and again this is because I use ozone.
Here is the latest video of my tank. It is a year and a half old now.
https://youtu.be/OXlnNycoiJ0

Here is tour of the entire sump and fish room.https://youtu.be/qvKTg663RTo

Very nice tank and setup! For some reason the picture didn't show up.

reefkeeper2
12/18/2015, 12:26 PM
The pic of the skimmer?

slief
12/18/2015, 12:32 PM
The pic of the skimmer?

Yes.. It's probably because you linked it from your gallery or something instead of photobucket.

reefkeeper2
12/18/2015, 12:37 PM
I can see it fine. I had trouble uploading it but I can see it on my PC and phone.

machodik
12/19/2015, 08:15 AM
Well, may be my pictures was not yet in order but just to share some unboxing pictures of my BK double cone 200+RD3 .

I still waiting my my skimmer to break in. I like this piece of good craftsmanship . Thanks Scott for your assistance.

My Christmas gift for my self;

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/19/482d401c7838ea89c776beee5d2a605a.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/19/31900e675bf97eb3fd0a8ed0bb137916.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/19/e1830b20abf7cfc343cf09254b2f6a84.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/19/a8543e5c17942388bf7956c75233d97e.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/19/ca19b941ae2c8ff8dde47ad487838f80.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/19/67104773047378d2c6218e0679aad566.jpg

Next buy will be the Red Dragon 80 Watt pump for my main return pump......

Merry Christmas to all!

Cheers,

MD

ReefClownMIA
12/19/2015, 02:51 PM
Here is my new build; Red Sea Reefer 450.

I'm hoping to have this setup wet by next weekend... Can't wait!

I color matched the sump and ATO Reservoir to match the Red/White color scheme of the Royal Exclusiv Double Cone 180 w/ RD3 50w, and the RD3 50w Return Pump.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/19/dd5bc6329d805f97e9ed8f19169128ab.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/19/4c9329e264ecbc33bfed94d91ed3d5d5.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/19/7b65bf6508d69df2604a675be5856894.jpg

slief
12/19/2015, 02:56 PM
Here is my new build; Red Sea Reefer 450.

I'm hoping to have this setup wet by next weekend... Can't wait!

I color matched the sump and ATO Reservoir to match the Red/White color scheme of the Royal Exclusiv Double Cone 180 w/ RD3 50w, and the RD3 50w Return pump.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/19/7b65bf6508d69df2604a675be5856894.jpg



Looking good but that little top off tank or refugium over the filter sock compartment will end up being a nightmare having it there. I think you will want easy access to those socks. If anything, I'd try to relocation that to have it over the return section and have The return line go under that little tank unless that sock tray slides out with both socks in it. If that's the case, then that would be convenient enough.

ReefClownMIA
12/19/2015, 03:22 PM
Yes, the socks are in slide trays, pull out from under there. :)

slief
12/19/2015, 04:31 PM
Yes, the socks are in slide trays, pull out from under there. :)

That's good. So what is that tank for?? Top off or refugium?

ReefClownMIA
12/19/2015, 06:12 PM
That's good. So what is that tank for?? Top off or refugium?

By design it's a ATO Reservoir, I'll use it for that for the time being.

machodik
12/19/2015, 06:14 PM
Hi ReefclownMia,

Can you tell me how is the heigh and wide of this return pump chamber ?

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/19/60299669ae80651efe69b51b0015500f.jpg

Cheers,

MD

ReefClownMIA
12/19/2015, 06:18 PM
Hi ReefclownMia,

Can you tell me how is the heigh and wide of this return pump chamber ?

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/19/60299669ae80651efe69b51b0015500f.jpg

Cheers,

MD
Absolutely:
6" wide
9" tall
16.5" long

machodik
12/19/2015, 06:41 PM
Thanks for the info.

I am going to buy one of those Red dragon pump too.

Boba_kz
12/23/2015, 04:39 AM
Hello!

Im planning to put my tank to bedroom. Very concerning about noise from equipment. Some people suggest me to buy pumps and skimmer from Royale exclusive. Is it really quiet compare to other producers?

craigvh
12/23/2015, 04:56 AM
I have 2 skimmers next to each other and they are both dead silent.

Boba_kz
12/23/2015, 05:33 AM
I have 2 skimmers next to each other and they are both dead silent.

Thank you very much!

slief
12/23/2015, 08:10 AM
I have 2 skimmers next to each other and they are both dead silent.

+1. They are dead silent.

biecacka
12/23/2015, 04:39 PM
Just got mine today! Initial impression is solid, very well crafted and sturdy. Cannot wait to get it running. Just about have it assembled, only have one question for now! The red tubing that comes w/ it attaches to the pump then we trim it to attach it to the black nipple thing on the skimmer. Correct?
Okay, one more question, are those just extra O rings that come in the pump box??

Corey

slief
12/23/2015, 05:12 PM
Just got mine today! Initial impression is solid, very well crafted and sturdy. Cannot wait to get it running. Just about have it assembled, only have one question for now! The red tubing that comes w/ it attaches to the pump then we trim it to attach it to the black nipple thing on the skimmer. Correct?
Okay, one more question, are those just extra O rings that come in the pump box??

Corey

The red tubing? I assume you are talking about the ozone tubing. That connects from the pump to the little ozone port nipple next to the wedge pipe. Then you cap it off on the top with the supplied cap. I woudln't cut it though. No need to cut any of the lines or tubes. The extra o-rings are spare ones for the pumps nozzle. If you pop the nozzle off the front of the pump, you will see a thin o-ring on the nozzle that helps hold the nozzle into the pump volute. It creates a tight seal between the removable nozzle and the motor block. The removable nozzle makes it so that you don't need to remove the pump to clean potential salt creep from the Venturi port. You can just pop the nozzle off and clean the port and not have to disconnect the block from the skimmer. Extra o-rings are included just in case you damage one of the o-rings by mistake. It's a good idea to use some silicone lube on any of the o-rings too.

I can't wait to hear your feedback once you get that thing broken in and dialed in. You're going to love it.

biecacka
12/23/2015, 06:54 PM
So I need to connect the ozone line from the pump, to the nipple, then cap it off?
Or cap it off at the pump?
Corey

slief
12/23/2015, 08:41 PM
So I need to connect the ozone line from the pump, to the nipple, then cap it off?
Or cap it off at the pump?
Corey

Either way. The key is to cap it off so it's not sucking water or air. I have my ozone line capped off above the water but from a pump servicing standpoint, capping it off at the pump is easier since it's one less tube to disconnect when you service the pump.

ReefClownMIA
12/26/2015, 07:45 AM
Corey,
The cap is included, and can be found placed on the upper 1/2 of the standpipe ozone port/nipple. :)

-M

biecacka
12/26/2015, 10:00 AM
Yeah I seen it. I just put it right on the pump. Is that okay?
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m377/biecacka/3DDCFF29-73AD-452E-9586-F145A32A9902.jpg (http://s333.photobucket.com/user/biecacka/media/3DDCFF29-73AD-452E-9586-F145A32A9902.jpg.html)
Here's a picture of it in the sump.
I run this on 240 gallon tank w 20 fish and am going to add 15 more or so. It's in 8.5 inches of water now....running on 35 watts. Where is ideal water level in this thing?

Corey

slief
12/26/2015, 02:03 PM
Yeah I seen it. I just put it right on the pump. Is that okay?
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m377/biecacka/3DDCFF29-73AD-452E-9586-F145A32A9902.jpg (http://s333.photobucket.com/user/biecacka/media/3DDCFF29-73AD-452E-9586-F145A32A9902.jpg.html)
Here's a picture of it in the sump.
I run this on 240 gallon tank w 20 fish and am going to add 15 more or so. It's in 8.5 inches of water now....running on 35 watts. Where is ideal water level in this thing?

Corey

Ideal water level is between 7.5 and 8.5". That is the DC 200 right?? If so, 35 watts may be too high but the skimmer performance will tell you where you need to be based on the foam and skimmate. I think you will need to back it down to around 30 but could be wrong since you have a light load right now. Putting the ozone plug directly on the pump is fine.

w.vreeswijk
12/26/2015, 02:52 PM
Hi this is mine.
Wesley from holland;-)
Aquarium 215x65x75 850
sump 130x50x50. 200L
Floating reef
Light ati hybrid 8x54watt t5 3x75watt led Ati hybrid 8x39 watt t5 2x75 watt led.Skimmer bbk Supermarine 250 rd3speedy ,Calcium dastaco 4 extrema 2 return pump red dragon 14000
Computer profilux 2 plus full option.
Flow 2x maxpect gyre 150 Ams Sumpguard,Ams Integra ozon c200 uc 36w Kz zeo reactor M Methode full zeovit

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Super marine 250 with rd3

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Greets wesley

slief
12/26/2015, 03:24 PM
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Super marine 250 with rd3

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Greets wesley

Wow!!!! Beautiful tank and coral!! Very impressive!

biecacka
12/26/2015, 08:03 PM
Scott, I will lower it to 30. Can you explain to me what that number signifies and impacts? I am getting a good foam on it now.

As my bio load gets heavier would I need to change that number upwards. Right now, I only have 6-7 fish larger then 6 inches all being tangs or Angels.

Corey

slief
12/26/2015, 09:28 PM
Scott, I will lower it to 30. Can you explain to me what that number signifies and impacts? I am getting a good foam on it now.

As my bio load gets heavier would I need to change that number upwards. Right now, I only have 6-7 fish larger then 6 inches all being tangs or Angels.

Corey
The higher the wattage the greater the flow of water and air into the skimmer. This will raise the water level inside the skimmer, decrease contact time and increase bubble size. The amount of dissolved organics will also have an impact on the foam level inside the skimmer. The more organics, the higher the foam level. As your loads increases, the DOC's will increase and you more than likely will need to lower the pump level to keep it from overflowing. I have an SM250 and run my skimmer at 37 watts which gives the perfect balance of flow and fine bubbles into that particular skimmer. The 200 body size is smaller so you should be running it at a lower power level. I would reduce it to 30 watts and if you find the bubbles aren't far enough up into the neck, try closing the wedge pipe a tiny bit to raise the level inside the skimmer. That or raise your water level in your sump if you can. The lower speed level will also result in slighly smaller bubbles which should result in a bit more dense foam with increased contact time. Drop the power level a couple watts at a time and pay attention to the bubbles inside the neck. You might even remove the lid so you can look down into the neck and get a feel for what the bubbles/foam looks like as you make minor pump adjustments. It's kind of a trial and error thing as different loads and amount of dissolved organics dictate different settings to a minor degree which is where fine tuning comes into play. This is something the RD3 is very good for because of it very fine incremental steps in pump power.

mikeatjac
12/27/2015, 07:46 AM
The higher the wattage the greater the flow of water and air into the skimmer. This will raise the water level inside the skimmer, decrease contact time and increase bubble size. The amount of dissolved organics will also have an impact on the foam level inside the skimmer. The more organics, the higher the foam level. As your loads increases, the DOC's will increase and you more than likely will need to lower the pump level to keep it from overflowing. I have an SM250 and run my skimmer at 37 watts which gives the perfect balance of flow and fine bubbles into that particular skimmer. The 200 body size is smaller so you should be running it at a lower power level. I would reduce it to 30 watts and if you find the bubbles aren't far enough up into the neck, try closing the wedge pipe a tiny bit to raise the level inside the skimmer. That or raise your water level in your sump if you can. The lower speed level will also result in slighly smaller bubbles which should result in a bit more dense foam with increased contact time. Drop the power level a couple watts at a time and pay attention to the bubbles inside the neck. You might even remove the lid so you can look down into the neck and get a feel for what the bubbles/foam looks like as you make minor pump adjustments. It's kind of a trial and error thing as different loads and amount of dissolved organics dictate different settings to a minor degree which is where fine tuning comes into play. This is something the RD3 is very good for because of it very fine incremental steps in pump power.

Wow great explanation.

biecacka
12/27/2015, 09:02 AM
Sweet. Thanks Scott. I dropped it to 30 last night before I went to bed. I'll check it today. There is plenty of dissolved organics in my water column due to previous skimmer performance issues. I will try to post a video later of how it's going. There was actually a very good foam head on it last night. Can I post videos thru photo bucket?
Corey

slief
12/27/2015, 10:47 AM
Sweet. Thanks Scott. I dropped it to 30 last night before I went to bed. I'll check it today. There is plenty of dissolved organics in my water column due to previous skimmer performance issues. I will try to post a video later of how it's going. There was actually a very good foam head on it last night. Can I post videos thru photo bucket?
Corey

I think photobucket supports videos. I always upload to YouTube but PB should be fine.

biecacka
12/27/2015, 11:53 AM
Do I need a YouTube account? I don't have one, but I know it's easy to get one. I'll try pb first. Then go from there

It's only showing my whole album.

Corey

slief
12/27/2015, 12:26 PM
Do I need a YouTube account? I don't have one, but I know it's easy to get one. I'll try pb first. Then go from there

It's only showing my whole album.

Corey

Yes, you need a YouTube account to upload video to youtube.

biecacka
12/27/2015, 02:30 PM
still showing whole album



Corey

clorox
12/28/2015, 02:09 PM
Here is my setup.

Tank is still new at about 3 months and I am slowly tidying up the cabling and connections.

Tank is a shallow custom peninsula reef 60x36x14 inches approx 130 gallons.
Sump is approximately 50 gallons - 48x16x16.

Fish load is still low given the tank age, but will increase in time as I transfer my livestock from LA to SF.

Skimmer is DC180 with RD3 set at 37~38w.
Return is RD3 80w
2 Ecotech vectra M1. One for UV, and ARID reactor and one for seaswirl.
1 Abyzz 100 for main flow placed inside a korallenwelt dedicated rock.

Everything is connected to an Apex with 3 DOS and 2 DDR's for auto water changes and dosing.


Love the skimmer, I think it is one of the best investments one can make for their tank. The fine tuning provided by the RD3 and build quality are unmatched.

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h391/twistepixel/20151228-_DSC0110_zpsrung4ovz.jpg (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/twistepixel/media/20151228-_DSC0110_zpsrung4ovz.jpg.html)


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slief
12/28/2015, 02:42 PM
Here is my setup.

Tank is still new at about 3 months and I am slowly tidying up the cabling and connections.

Tank is a shallow custom peninsula reef 60x36x14 inches approx 130 gallons.
Sump is approximately 50 gallons - 48x16x16.

Fish load is still low given the tank age, but will increase in time as I transfer my livestock from LA to SF.

Skimmer is DC180 with RD3 set at 37~38w.
Return is RD3 80w
2 Ecotech vectra M1. One for UV, and ARID reactor and one for seaswirl.
1 Abyzz 100 for main flow placed inside a korallenwelt dedicated rock.

Everything is connected to an Apex with 3 DOS and 2 DDR's for auto water changes and dosing.


Love the skimmer, I think it is one of the best investments one can make for their tank. The fine tuning provided by the RD3 and build quality are unmatched.

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h391/twistepixel/20151228-_DSC0110_zpsrung4ovz.jpg (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/twistepixel/media/20151228-_DSC0110_zpsrung4ovz.jpg.html)


http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h391/twistepixel/20151228-_DSC0108_zpswa7bkrsf.jpg (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/twistepixel/media/20151228-_DSC0108_zpswa7bkrsf.jpg.html)


http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h391/twistepixel/20151228-_DSC0107_zps9d0jfi1h.jpg (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/twistepixel/media/20151228-_DSC0107_zps9d0jfi1h.jpg.html)


Very nice. That is a beautiful setup and plumbing job! What's your sump level? You sure are running that pump at a high power setting.. I would guess your sump level is really low or you tank is REALLY lightly stocked.

clorox
12/28/2015, 04:02 PM
Thanks Scott.

The skimmer is on an acrylic platform I built to raise it by about 2.5 inches.
The current water level is just shy of 7 inches which is within RE recommended level according to the manual. I had to build the platform because my sump doesn't have water level adjustments and without raising it it would have been in over 9 inches of water.

Should I close the volute pipe to compensate for the lower organics and decrease the power setting?

The reason I have to keep that power setting is because of the light fish load. Only one foxface, 6 blue eyed cardinals, a Centropyge bispinosa and a Salarias fasciatus.

The bigger source of organics comes from one of my large carpet anemones soon to be joined by an even larger one. More fish will follow, but yeah right now it is lightly stocked.

slief
12/28/2015, 04:35 PM
Thanks Scott.

The skimmer is on an acrylic platform I built to raise it by about 2.5 inches.
The current water level is just shy of 7 inches which is within RE recommended level according to the manual. I had to build the platform because my sump doesn't have water level adjustments and without raising it it would have been in over 9 inches of water.

Should I close the volute pipe to compensate for the lower organics and decrease the power setting?

The reason I have to keep that power setting is because of the light fish load. Only one foxface, 6 blue eyed cardinals, a Centropyge bispinosa and a Salarias fasciatus.

The bigger source of organics comes from one of my large carpet anemones soon to be joined by an even larger one. More fish will follow, but yeah right now it is lightly stocked.

Tough call. Looking at your photos, you have some nice foam there. Your lower water level necessates the higher pump speed. I assume given your pump speed that the wedge pipe is mostly open. While your sump level is within range, "ideal" depth is 7.75 to 8.5". Heck, even 9" is still within range but ideal depth is kind of dependent on things like salinity and load but it's also impacted by pump speed. Given your low load, I would probably try removing the stand so the skimmer is in 9" of water, open the wedge all the way and reduce the power down to 27 watts and see what that does. If the foam looks nice but the water level is low, you can close the wedge pipe some or increase the pump speed slightly. Obviously you can always go back by putting the stand back in and increasing the power back to your existing settings but I think you might get even better results and you will certainly increase contact time with the lower flow through the skimmer. Kind of 6 of this a half a dozen of the other. It's obviously working well right now given your sump depth and low load but I can't help but wonder if it could work even better even though that may be hard to imagine. Once you load is increased you would be better suited with a depth of 8-8.5" and the lower pump speed that should be somewhere between 27 and 32 watts depending on load and depth..

clorox
12/28/2015, 06:49 PM
Thanks for the tips, I will try removing the stand and see what happens.

slief
12/28/2015, 07:33 PM
Thanks for the tips, I will try removing the stand and see what happens.

Keep me posted. I am eager to hear the results. It's obviously easy to go back to the original setup. You are kind of in gray area since you load is so low but I think you could get away with the deeper sump depth and lower power setting which will increase your contact time.

Superpuma
12/29/2015, 01:14 AM
Hi Slief

I intend running ozone on my 180 mini..... Is there a recommended max on these skimmers? Will ozone affect the performance?

Thanks. Mike

slief
12/29/2015, 08:43 AM
Hi Slief

I intend running ozone on my 180 mini..... Is there a recommended max on these skimmers? Will ozone affect the performance?

Thanks. Mike

Ozone will impact the skimmers performance and likely darken the skim up a bit as it oxidizes the organics it comes in contact with. I will be honest and tell you that I am not a fan of running ozone through the skimmer. Ozone is an oxidizer and it will degrade many plastics that it comes in contact with. Not only that, it's also toxic to humans and pets. The skimmer itself is ozone safe but you need to insure that excess or residual ozone isn't escaping the skimmer. This means that the vents on the skimmer lid should be vented though carbon and the skimmers effluent should be routed through carbon as well. Some people will place a large conainer over the skimmer lids with holes in it and screen and fill it with carbon so that the skimmer lid can still breath and any ozone that is escaping in the bubbles can be filtered out. Insuring that no ozone escapes through the skimmer effluent line is a bit more tricky. Especially given that the effluent line is low down and ideally you want all the skimmer water to flow through the carbon. To do that properly, I'm of the mindset that you would ideally have some sort of a reactor connected to the effluent line on the skimmer so that all water is forced through the carbon without allowing residual ozone to escape into the air. The issue is that you don't want to restrict the effluent line of the skimmer because that will impact the water level in the skimmer and cause issues tuning the skimmer. Residual ozone that escapes can and will make some plastics and tubing brittle in a hurry. Not only that but as mentioned above, residual ozone can be toxic so it's very important that you remove all residual ozone from the air and water.

For the reasons above, I much prefer running ozone through a dedicated reactor with a 2nd reactor plumbed downstream that is filled with carbon. I've used ozone both ways an found the reactor to be much more effective, more controllable, safer and much easier to eliminate all the residual ozone.

Lastly, should you decide to use ozone, be sure to use lignite carbon. That is the most effective carbon for removing residual ozone.

Superpuma
12/29/2015, 08:53 AM
Thanks for that Slief.

I currently use a small Bubble Magus skimmer as a dedicated ozone " reactor " , no issues at all, l'm aware of the issues and dangers. I used an Avast reactor previously, didn't get on with it, it needed alot of extra equipment to run it, it wasn't very good....

Now that l've added a reactor for Siporax to my sump things are really tight, that's why l'm looking at taking out my " reactor " skimmer and introducing ozone to my Bubble King. Is 50mg the max ozone the BK will handle?

Mike

biecacka
12/29/2015, 09:06 AM
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This morning....what do you think?

Corey

slief
12/29/2015, 09:48 AM
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This morning....what do you think?

Corey

Looks pretty good. Do you have the collection cup draining to a container? I don't see any skimmate in the cup to really judge what the skim looks like.

slief
12/29/2015, 09:51 AM
Thanks for that Slief.

I currently use a small Bubble Magus skimmer as a dedicated ozone " reactor " , no issues at all, l'm aware of the issues and dangers. I used an Avast reactor previously, didn't get on with it, it needed alot of extra equipment to run it, it wasn't very good....

Now that l've added a reactor for Siporax to my sump things are really tight, that's why l'm looking at taking out my " reactor " skimmer and introducing ozone to my Bubble King. Is 50mg the max ozone the BK will handle?

Mike
I use/used the avast ozone reactor too. It's an OK design and works well. I packed it with that pasta looking bio bale media. It's fed from my manifold and drains into a carbon reactor (down flow). It worked pretty well and gave better contact time than I could get from the skimmer. The skimmer you have will certainly handle the ozone like any other skimmer. Just be careful to strip as much of the residual ozone as you can.

biecacka
12/29/2015, 10:06 AM
I do have it set up to drain, but there is no skimmate yet

Corey

slief
12/29/2015, 11:13 AM
I do have it set up to drain, but there is no skimmate yet

Corey

I would suggest plugging off the drain in the cup for now as the skimmate in the cup will be the best indicator of how the skimmer is performing. Color of the skim as well as volume of skim being collected. I might suggest closing the wedge pipe a tiny tiny bit but before doing so, it would be good to let it run for 24 hours with the drain plugged off so it collects in the cup. If you do decide to close the wedge, no more than 1/8 of an inch would do the trick. Just a crack so it raises the water level ever so slighly. Be sure to plug the drain so we can see what's collecting in there.

Then report back in the thread below as I would like to keep this current thread more about what people's final setup is so we can use it as a reference point for what is working for different people with different skimmers. The thread below will be used as a reference point for how we go about setting the different skimmers up and what to look for when doing so. Your install is a perfect example for that thead.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2546139

SchnitzelReef
12/29/2015, 11:15 AM
Something cool that I haven't seen too many people talk about is an automatic skimmer drain. I have a masterflex pump hooked up to my skimmer drain. I push a button on my apex, and it pumps out all the skimmate to my outside drain. Works awesome!

http://youtu.be/MTgNaRQ_giY

Confuse
12/29/2015, 06:32 PM
Something cool that I haven't seen too many people talk about is an automatic skimmer drain. I have a masterflex pump hooked up to my skimmer drain. I push a button on my apex, and it pumps out all the skimmate to my outside drain. Works awesome!

http://youtu.be/MTgNaRQ_giY

Hey foo! I sent you a text yesterday! Answer it!

@slief Is the neck cleaner like yours available for purchase anywhere? I own a vectra neck cleaner and while it keeps the neck clean, the outside of my skimmer cup gets super filthy and gunky. Just wondering if Royal Exclusiv sells anything similar.

slief
12/29/2015, 06:44 PM
Hey foo! I sent you a text yesterday! Answer it!

@slief Is the neck cleaner like yours available for purchase anywhere? I own a vectra neck cleaner and while it keeps the neck clean, the outside of my skimmer cup gets super filthy and gunky. Just wondering if Royal Exclusiv sells anything similar.

Royal Exclusiv offers the same one but they need to be ordered from Germany. They aren't cheap though and cost several hundred depending on whether you want it with the wash down or not. If you are seriously interested in one, send me a PM with your email address and I will get an email going to Germany so we can get you a quote. You won't find a better SCH. I've had mine 5 years now. They actually have a built in wet wiper setup that draws water from inside the skimmer and sprays it over the wiper. It has a small peristaltic roller pump in the motor assembly and pulls the water from inside the skimmer when the motor turns. The washdown for the cup needs to be fed by an external water source. Mine is connected to a hose spigot that I used for my RODI when I had the RODI in the closet next to the tank. It takes some water pressure to make the wash down work well. A regular powerhead won't cut it other than just adding water to the cup. Good tap pressure on the other hand will spray the sides of the cup via the wash down tubing.

clorox
12/29/2015, 07:55 PM
Scott, you're the man!

After I removed the platform under the skimmer the water level rose to 9.5 inches. I lowered and tuned the pump power to 21-22w, wedge pipe all open.

Like you said, finer bubbles and very consistent.

Here is a pic just after a good clean up and placed it back into the sump.

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h391/twistepixel/20151229-_DSC0174_zps6tc6iwsm.jpg (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/twistepixel/media/20151229-_DSC0174_zps6tc6iwsm.jpg.html)


And here after about 4 hours.


http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h391/twistepixel/20151229-_DSC0183_zpstcbwycle.jpg (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/twistepixel/media/20151229-_DSC0183_zpstcbwycle.jpg.html)


22 watts, almost half what I had it before.

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h391/twistepixel/20151229-_DSC0185_zpsk91eynaw.jpg (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/twistepixel/media/20151229-_DSC0185_zpsk91eynaw.jpg.html)

slief
12/29/2015, 07:58 PM
Scott, you're the man!

After I removed the platform under the skimmer the water level rose to 9.5 inches. I lowered and tuned the pump power to 21-22w, wedge pipe all open.

Like you said, finer bubbles and very consistent.

Here is a pic just after a good clean up and placed it back into the sump.

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h391/twistepixel/20151229-_DSC0174_zps6tc6iwsm.jpg (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/twistepixel/media/20151229-_DSC0174_zps6tc6iwsm.jpg.html)


And here after about 4 hours.


http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h391/twistepixel/20151229-_DSC0183_zpstcbwycle.jpg (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/twistepixel/media/20151229-_DSC0183_zpstcbwycle.jpg.html)


22 watts, almost half what I had it before.

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h391/twistepixel/20151229-_DSC0185_zpsk91eynaw.jpg (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/twistepixel/media/20151229-_DSC0185_zpsk91eynaw.jpg.html)
Sweet!! Looks pretty good to me! I gather you are happy with the results? :thumbsup:

My guess is that you may be able to close the wedge pipe a tiny bit after a couple days or bump the watts up about 1 watt. It looks like it's making really nice foam so a tad closed on the wedge may be all it takes if it even needs it.

clorox
12/29/2015, 08:12 PM
Sweet!! Looks pretty good to me! I gather you are happy with the results? :thumbsup:

My guess is that you may be able to close the wedge pipe a tiny bit after a couple days or bump the watts up about 1 watt. It looks like it's making really nice foam so a tad closed on the wedge may be all it takes if it even needs it.

Super happy! I'll play with the wedge pipe and power after a day or two. At this point it's pretty much set and forget.

Confuse
12/30/2015, 11:00 AM
Royal Exclusiv offers the same one but they need to be ordered from Germany. They aren't cheap though and cost several hundred depending on whether you want it with the wash down or not. If you are seriously interested in one, send me a PM with your email address and I will get an email going to Germany so we can get you a quote. You won't find a better SCH. I've had mine 5 years now. They actually have a built in wet wiper setup that draws water from inside the skimmer and sprays it over the wiper. It has a small peristaltic roller pump in the motor assembly and pulls the water from inside the skimmer when the motor turns. The washdown for the cup needs to be fed by an external water source. Mine is connected to a hose spigot that I used for my RODI when I had the RODI in the closet next to the tank. It takes some water pressure to make the wash down work well. A regular powerhead won't cut it other than just adding water to the cup. Good tap pressure on the other hand will spray the sides of the cup via the wash down tubing.

I figured it would be expensive. Just out of curiosity, what would be a ballpark figure? I know I won't be able to afford it now, but maybe on my next build.

slief
12/30/2015, 01:26 PM
I figured it would be expensive. Just out of curiosity, what would be a ballpark figure? I know I won't be able to afford it now, but maybe on my next build.

I want to say they are around $700.

Kaidman
12/31/2015, 09:07 AM
Just setup my SM200 this past weekend. Looking at some of the photos and following the conversations here people are talking about the additional red line coming off the pump. I see clorox just put a black cap on it. I didn't receive a red line or cap with my skimmer unless it got discarded on accident. Do I need to cap that other inlet on my RD pump beside the air intake? What are the effects if I leave it open?

ReefClownMIA
12/31/2015, 09:28 AM
Just setup my SM200 this past weekend. Looking at some of the photos and following the conversations here people are talking about the additional red line coming off the pump. I see clorox just put a black cap on it. I didn't receive a red line or cap with my skimmer unless it got discarded on accident. Do I need to cap that other inlet on my RD pump beside the air intake? What are the effects if I leave it open?

Josh,
Can you send me a PM with your order details please. I'll see what we can do. :)

Thanks,
Marco

slief
12/31/2015, 10:35 AM
Just setup my SM200 this past weekend. Looking at some of the photos and following the conversations here people are talking about the additional red line coming off the pump. I see clorox just put a black cap on it. I didn't receive a red line or cap with my skimmer unless it got discarded on accident. Do I need to cap that other inlet on my RD pump beside the air intake? What are the effects if I leave it open?

The tubing and the cap are usually packed inside the skimmer body in a zip lock bag. The extra nipple on the pumps inlet is where the red ozone tube connects to the skimmer pump. It goes from the pump to the underside of the wedge pipe brace. If you aren't using ozone, you need to cap that off with the normally supplied cap otherwise it will draw water in from that fitting and mess up the water to air ratio making tuning a bit more difficult. You can cap it off directly on the pump and not use the red tube or you can connect the red tube between the pump and the underside of the wedge pipe brace and cap it off on the top side of the wedge pipe brace where the ozone generator would normally connect. In the absence of ozone, I would cap it off on the pump as it's one less tube connection to worry about when you clean the pump. If you are in a hurry to get the skimmer running, you can take a 1" or so length of airline tubing and melt one end and crimp it shut. The heat the other end up a bit so you can stretch it over the ozone port on the pump. It would be smart to use some silicone grease over the port so that the tubing can be easily remove. An alternative would be to run to Pep Boys or an autoparts store and grab a packet of plastic vacuum port caps. They normally come in a variety size pack for a few dollars and there is at least one size that will fit the ozone nipple on the pump.

In the mean time, where did you order the simmer from? Send me or Marco (ReefClownMIA) a PM with your address and where you got the skimmer from and we will send you a new Ozone tube and cap if you can't find the one that should have come with the skimmer.

slief
12/31/2015, 01:06 PM
Just setup my SM200 this past weekend. Looking at some of the photos and following the conversations here people are talking about the additional red line coming off the pump. I see clorox just put a black cap on it. I didn't receive a red line or cap with my skimmer unless it got discarded on accident. Do I need to cap that other inlet on my RD pump beside the air intake? What are the effects if I leave it open?

Just double checked the Supermarin Skimmers. They don't actually include the red tubing as the SM200 doesn't have the ozone connection on the wedge pipe support. Instead you would connect the ozone directly to the pump. We do have a cap for you if you don't have something to plug it up with. You can certainly run the skimmer without the cap if you want to. You will get a tiny bit more water into the pump which won't make a big difference.

Kaidman
12/31/2015, 02:19 PM
I can probably find something to cap it with. Thanks for checking into it!

Confuse
01/07/2016, 06:42 PM
Here's this week load of organics!

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/07/75a7f2979951655ce63a3f7179e916b4.jpg

UWUALineman
01/07/2016, 07:05 PM
Nice Confuse!
I've upgraded to the 180 from the 150 for my upcoming tank transfer. There is a substantial size difference but the motor and skimmers are tanks! Looking forward to the getting it in water.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/07/4d78f0447f51774ae1f8cf688da3cd6c.jpg

biecacka
01/07/2016, 09:28 PM
Looking good man!!!!

Corey

Scythanith
01/17/2016, 07:47 AM
So I have never been 100% happy about my setup. I have the pipe almost completely and the pump running at full power to get the skimmate to the right height. The bubble line is pretty much at the neck bayonet. The water height is right within the RE specs from the manual. I love the skimmer, just seems like I really have to back the water flow off and keep the pump cranked to get the right height within the chamber.

I don't have any great pictures of just the skimmer but here are a couple that show the general layout. Any help would be appreciated.

http://www.lithicimages.com/photos/i-xP3Qn2C/0/XL/i-xP3Qn2C-XL.jpg

http://www.lithicimages.com/photos/i-4P7TQd8/0/XL/i-4P7TQd8-XL.jpg

Here is a link to my build thread: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2279526

slief
01/17/2016, 08:25 AM
So I have never been 100% happy about my setup. I have the pipe almost completely and the pump running at full power to get the skimmate to the right height. The bubble line is pretty much at the neck bayonet. The water height is right within the RE specs from the manual. I love the skimmer, just seems like I really have to back the water flow off and keep the pump cranked to get the right height within the chamber.

I don't have any great pictures of just the skimmer but here are a couple that show the general layout. Any help would be appreciated.

http://www.lithicimages.com/photos/i-xP3Qn2C/0/XL/i-xP3Qn2C-XL.jpg

Here is a link to my build thread: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2279526


I am not really following what your issue is. I just checked your build thread because you left out some important info such as the model/size of the skimmer, your display size and fish load. It looks like you have a Double Cone 250 skimmer, 250 gallon display and from what I can tell, you don't have many fish in there. When you say you have the pump at full power, I assume you are talking about the RD3? What is the sump depth in the skimmer chamber from the bottom of the skimmer to the top of the sump water line?


The best pump setting for the Double Cone 250 is about 37-38 watts. The lower the setting the finer the bubbles so I would start at 37 watts. Given your load, you are going to need to have the skimmer in at least 9" or more of water to get the water level where it transitions into foam up about 1" from the collar where the cup threads onto the body. You can close the wedge pipe to raise the water level inside the skimmer but if you have to close it more than half way, you should really raise the sump level. Closing it more than half way will likely cause a bit of surging in the skimmer because you end up restricting the flow out of the skimmer too much.

Scythanith
01/19/2016, 06:37 AM
Ok I will try to fill in the blanks :)

Skimmer: BK DC 250 with RD3
Tank: 270g display with 2 x ~40g sumps
Fish load: light (marine betta, magnificent foxface, longnosed hawkfish, 2x golden rhomboid wrasse, sandy basslet, royal gramma, yellow tang)

The RD3 runs at full watts. the skimmer is sitting in a smidge over 10" of water. If I dial the watts down, then the skimmer will not fill the reaction chamber high enough to do as you say it should. That's even with the wedge nearly closed shut. Even now running the RD3 at full power I have the wedge closed about 75% or more.

I just thought it was weird when I read all of your descriptions of running your pumps at a lower wattage.

When I get home I can dial down the wattage and see what happens again.

slief
01/19/2016, 07:58 AM
Ok I will try to fill in the blanks :)

Skimmer: BK DC 250 with RD3
Tank: 270g display with 2 x ~40g sumps
Fish load: light (marine betta, magnificent foxface, longnosed hawkfish, 2x golden rhomboid wrasse, sandy basslet, royal gramma, yellow tang)

The RD3 runs at full watts. the skimmer is sitting in a smidge over 10" of water. If I dial the watts down, then the skimmer will not fill the reaction chamber high enough to do as you say it should. That's even with the wedge nearly closed shut. Even now running the RD3 at full power I have the wedge closed about 75% or more.

I just thought it was weird when I read all of your descriptions of running your pumps at a lower wattage.

When I get home I can dial down the wattage and see what happens again.

You really don't have much of a load in your system and very little dissolved organics which is why you have to run the skimmer so deep to get the foam up into the neck. The lower pump setting will provide better foam but you may have to run the skimmer deeper as a result or live wih inconsistency. The 250mm skimmers do best at 37 watts but they still need dissolved organics for proper foam fractioning. I have the same size skimmer although it's a supermarin and I have 60 fish to feed that skimmer. Many of which are large tangs.

Kaidman
01/19/2016, 10:10 AM
339529

By far the easiest to setup and most consistent skimmer I've had. Pulling out some good stuff, emptying a couple times a week.

Scythanith
01/19/2016, 01:07 PM
Gotcha. Thanks for the info slief.

BfishLpond78
01/19/2016, 09:32 PM
Ballpark figure in the auto neck cleaner without the fancy sprayer?

dmcrete
01/19/2016, 09:37 PM
nice looking tanks,, and Skimmers,, I am needing a larger skimmer, started dosing vodka in my 175 gallon system, and I want a 300 gallon plus Maybe,, if anybody has something large for sale,,, PLEASE Let me know,, Thanks Guys And Gals,, Dennis
:beer:

slief
01/20/2016, 09:07 AM
Ballpark figure in the auto neck cleaner without the fancy sprayer?

If you are talking about the neck cleaner like the one I use, this particular model was several hundred when I got it. There is a new version coming out very soon from the same manufacturer that will range from about $550 for a smaller skimmer to around $675 for the 300 series skimmers. That is including the wash down. If you don't need the wash down, they will run about $100 less.
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/shleif/Tanks/RE%20usa/image_zpshsg9xwwv.jpg

lee_d_m
02/01/2016, 06:39 AM
Hi,

I have a couple of questions in regards to the operation of my BK with the view to trying to get the most out of it

I have a DC 200 with the RD3 speedy pump. I've had it for a year and it's been working well.

I run a Zeovit system with a total volume of approx 180gallons with 19 fish. (most small).

Currently struggling to keep my No3 and PO4 intact so I'm questioning whether my BK is working as well as it should.

My first query is in regards to the wattage display on the pump. When I press the buttons to increase the wattage, let's say to 60, a second later it reverts back to a lower setting, currently this i runnig at 36W. I've never understood this so perhaps someone could explain what the two numbers mean.

Secondly, after reading this thread, I saw that a lot of recommendations were to have the red wedge pipe wide open. I had a look at mine and it's almost completely closed. It's been like this for most of the time, and I do get what I think looks like a good foam head, but now I'm not sure if the skimmer is performing optimally.

It's currently sitting in approx 8 inches of water.

Below is a pic of the foam head I get and I fill about 3/4 of the collection cup with medium brown stuff about every 5 days

Any advice would be most appreciated.

Thanks.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/lee_d_m/671DC079-8258-4002-9D26-FE6041E608E5_zpsxy8sbzpn.jpg

slief
02/01/2016, 07:23 AM
Hi,

I have a couple of questions in regards to the operation of my BK with the view to trying to get the most out of it

I have a DC 200 with the RD3 speedy pump. I've had it for a year and it's been working well.

I run a Zeovit system with a total volume of approx 180gallons with 19 fish. (most small).

Currently struggling to keep my No3 and PO4 intact so I'm questioning whether my BK is working as well as it should.

My first query is in regards to the wattage display on the pump. When I press the buttons to increase the wattage, let's say to 60, a second later it reverts back to a lower setting, currently this i runnig at 36W. I've never understood this so perhaps someone could explain what the two numbers mean.

Secondly, after reading this thread, I saw that a lot of recommendations were to have the red wedge pipe wide open. I had a look at mine and it's almost completely closed. It's been like this for most of the time, and I do get what I think looks like a good foam head, but now I'm not sure if the skimmer is performing optimally.

It's currently sitting in approx 8 inches of water.

Below is a pic of the foam head I get and I fill about 3/4 of the collection cup with medium brown stuff about every 5 days

Any advice would be most appreciated.

Thanks.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f17/lee_d_m/671DC079-8258-4002-9D26-FE6041E608E5_zpsxy8sbzpn.jpg


Regarding nitrates, the skimmer is only one part of the equation. The skimmer removes dissolved solids from the water but it doesn't remove nitrates. Removing dissolved solids will help reduce nitrates but nitrate removal is a function of bacteria in the tank. Things like sufficient live rock and or sand that provide sufficient bacterial surfaces play the biggest role in nitrate reduction. Flow in the tank also plays a big role as it will help prevent waste from settling so that it can be sent into the overflow for the skimmer to remove but again, the function of nitrate reduction is comes down to bacteria in your tank and the skimmer can only reduce some of the dissolved organics that contribute to nitrates. .

When you press the button on the controller, the first number you see is percentage of power. Then it reverts to the actual wattage for that power percentage.

As for your wedge pipe being closed that much, if you raise your sump level, that will allow you to open your wedge pipe more. You load is VERY low for this skimmer and because of that, you will have to run the skimmer in deeper water or with the wedge pipe more closed but it sounds like you wedge pipe is more closed that it should be. While that won't impact the foam head, it will impact the balance inside the skimmer and could contribute to surging where the water goes up and down inside the skimmer.

36 watts is pretty high for that skimmer. I normally suggest 27-30 watts for an appropriately stocked tank. You tank is lightly stocked for this skimmer so 30 watts would likely result in better performance.. If you do choose to lower the power, you will need the skimmer in deeper water meaning you will need to raise the sump level or lower the skimmer if it's on a stand. The reduced power will increase your contact time and decrease the bubble size which will help it remove more dissolved organics more efficiently.

If you read through the setup and tuning thread, I discuss a lot about the setup and tuning of these skimmers and it will give you a good idea of how to go about fine tuning yours.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2546139

lee_d_m
02/01/2016, 09:26 AM
Hi,

thanks for the detailed reply. I've lowered in the sump now by a couple of inches and will give it a bit of time to adjust. Now, when I open the wedge pipe fully the water inside the skimmer is about halfway up the collection cup. The bubbles look quite wet at the moment and there's no foam head forming, but I'll check it in a couple of hours and see what it's like.

slief
02/01/2016, 10:19 AM
Hi,

thanks for the detailed reply. I've lowered in the sump now by a couple of inches and will give it a bit of time to adjust. Now, when I open the wedge pipe fully the water inside the skimmer is about halfway up the collection cup. The bubbles look quite wet at the moment and there's no foam head forming, but I'll check it in a couple of hours and see what it's like.


It will take some time to settle in. That said, I wouldn't have dropped your sump level. That is counter productive as the lower power setting will decrease the water level inside the skimmer. From the sounds of it, you didn't lower the pump level? The 36 watts you are running will result is fast bursting bubbles that will generate very wet skim and not very efficient organic removal.

As I said in my original post, I would decrease the pump speed to 30 watts and you will likely need this skimmer in deeper water and by lowering your sump level, you made it shallower. As such, I would raise the water back to 8" or even 8.5", lower your pump speed to 30 watts. I would also suggest opening the wedge pipe so that it's wide open and give it several or more hours to settle in. Then check where the water/bubbles start to turn to foam. If that transition is just above the base of the neck, let it run for a bit and see how it produces. If it's not, close the wedge pipe some but try not to exceed half closed. If you need to go more than 1/2 closed on the wedge pipe, open the wedge up all the way and raise your sump 1/4" and let it settle back in to see where the level is in the neck. If the foam level is still low, close the wedge pipe some to see if you can get it up into the neck without having to go past 1/2 closed on the wedge. Continue to do this until you find the right sump level. You have a very low load for this skimmer so you will need a higher sump level that others but the slower pump speed will result in much better foam which is what you are after.

lee_d_m
02/01/2016, 11:27 AM
Sorry, I didn't write that very well. What I meant was that I've lowered the skimmer in the sump, so that its' sitting deeper in the water, it's about 9.5inches deep now whereas it was 8 inches before.

I also dialled the pump down to 30w and opened the wedge pipe about 7/8ths open.

Since I did this, which was about 3 hours ago, the dense foam head has returned and foam is just trickling slowly over the top of the skimmer neck into the collection cup.

I realise I've changed a lot of things all at once, but I think I've now got it close to how you suggested and it seems to be working.

slief
02/01/2016, 11:38 AM
Sorry, I didn't write that very well. What I meant was that I've lowered the skimmer in the sump, so that its' sitting deeper in the water, it's about 9.5inches deep now whereas it was 8 inches before.

I also dialled the pump down to 30w and opened the wedge pipe about 7/8ths open.

Since I did this, which was about 3 hours ago, the dense foam head has returned and foam is just trickling slowly over the top of the skimmer neck into the collection cup.

I realise I've changed a lot of things all at once, but I think I've now got it close to how you suggested and it seems to be working.


Gotcha. Then it sounds like you are on the right track. You may end up needing to lower the sump level a bit but keep an eye on it. If you do need to lower it, I would do so in 1/4" increments but it sounds like you are really close now. In fact, if it turns out you need to lower it, you might bump the pump speed down 1 increment. That will thicken the foam a bit more and increase contact time while also lowering the level slightly in your tank. My suggestion is that you experiment a bit with that. You really won't need to go over 30 watts but might find a slightly lower speed will result in even better foam consistency. Either way, I suspect you will be really pleased with the results from this change. Let it ride as it is for the next several to 24 hours and report back. That said, it might be best to post the update in the other thread for that so we can keep this thread more about final settings.

I will probably ask moderators to move these posts into the other thread any ways that way we have one thread that people can refer to for what is working for people and another thread covering how to setup and trouble shoot.


http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2546139

lee_d_m
02/01/2016, 11:42 AM
Ok, will do and thanks for your help. Feel free to move this to the other thread, I wasn't aware that one existed until you mentioned it.

Cheers

kavatica
02/19/2016, 08:31 PM
I have a Bubble King Mini 200 slim with RD3 pump running on my 150 gallon mixed its in my sump which is a trigger system emerald 39 depth is set to 9" and pump runs around 38. I think I've had it for maybe a year or so love the skimmer its really awesome i love it even more because i use to travel allot for work so i really haven't sat down and dialed it correctly like i have the last few weeks cause i finally got a job where im home now and i gotta say im even more impressed!! The pic shows maybe a day, day and half collection and i can see the chunks its pulling out with the foam actually forming down the neck into the collection cup, before i really didn't get that unless when i cleaned it and forgot to seat the neck back down properly. So i look forward to weeks collection and see if it smells like death like it usually does when i dump the cup.

reefid
03/01/2016, 08:15 AM
Ac BK SM250 running 130G sps dominated tank with 2 small tangs, 2 anthias , queen angel and 3 nemos. Also 5 firefish and one borbo . Skimmer sit at 8" water level. Edge pipe closed 60%.

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr283/pocky2301/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsparse9xp.jpg (http://s492.photobucket.com/user/pocky2301/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsparse9xp.jpg.html)

Should I pull it down 8.5" ? Thats 5 days worth of skimmate.

Thanks

Hendrik

ReefClownMIA
03/01/2016, 09:43 AM
Ac BK SM250 running 130G sps dominated tank with 2 small tangs, 2 anthias , queen angel and 3 nemos. Also 5 firefish and one borbo . Skimmer sit at 8" water level. Edge pipe closed 60%.

Should I pull it down 8.5" ? Thats 5 days worth of skimmate.

Thanks

Hendrik

Hendrik,

This skimmer is very large for your system size, sounds like you have a mid size bio load.
I'd bring it down to 8.5", run around 37w on the pump, and see if this will help., You're running the skimmer pretty dry, and may benefit from running it a little more wet.

slief
03/01/2016, 09:57 AM
Hendrik,

This skimmer is very large for your system size, sounds like you have a mid size bio load.
I'd bring it down to 8.5", run around 37w on the pump, and see if this will help., You're running the skimmer pretty dry, and may benefit from running it a little more wet.

I think his Supermarin uses the Red Dragon with the adjustable volute and not the RD3 pump. ReefID, please correct me if I am wrong. For his light load relative to the skimmer size, 9" is about perfect with the Red Dragon. In fact, I ran my SM250 with the RD3 in 9" of water for the first several months and it skimmed just fine too. I have since lowered it but my load is pretty heavy. In my experience, the lighter the load, the deeper the sump for that skimmer as he will need to skim wet to maintain the consistency. Judging by the foam collecting on the neck, it looks like it's set pretty well as it is. If anything, he could improve the skimmate output by closing the wedge slightly but that will result in wetter skimmate. The amount of skimmate isn't horrible for a small tank considering the SM250 has a pretty large diameter collection cup.

reefid
03/02/2016, 09:19 AM
Thank you Slief and ReefClomMIA,

I will to increase the water level. Yes Slief was right mine is normal red dragon pump.
Anyway just realised this thread designed for ppl to post their skimmer. Will post in the tuning thread

Thanks

Hendrik

ReefClownMIA
03/02/2016, 11:54 AM
I've had my skimmer setup on PVC pipes, to raise it to the proper water height..

Figured it was time to ditch the PVC pipes!

Before:
https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/12741874_10207815592363421_2026728662662405177_n.jpg?oh=3739b3ed8814f47f0064f5f78b9b0592&oe=575024A0

Build this:
https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/12688177_10207815597043538_4923488107168333296_n.jpg?oh=8990b7b31160ab426a6eb467a4fefa8c&oe=57511ED9

After:
https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/12705552_10207838382333156_6910845823648168391_n.jpg?oh=63cca16393b343b3ef103ff5abd00f9f&oe=5760C8C0

reefid
03/03/2016, 08:00 AM
:blown: That stand is amazing, thanks for sharing.

SchnitzelReef
03/03/2016, 02:52 PM
I am not really following what your issue is. I just checked your build thread because you left out some important info such as the model/size of the skimmer, your display size and fish load. It looks like you have a Double Cone 250 skimmer, 250 gallon display and from what I can tell, you don't have many fish in there. When you say you have the pump at full power, I assume you are talking about the RD3? What is the sump depth in the skimmer chamber from the bottom of the skimmer to the top of the sump water line?


The best pump setting for the Double Cone 250 is about 37-38 watts. The lower the setting the finer the bubbles so I would start at 37 watts. Given your load, you are going to need to have the skimmer in at least 9" or more of water to get the water level where it transitions into foam up about 1" from the collar where the cup threads onto the body. You can close the wedge pipe to raise the water level inside the skimmer but if you have to close it more than half way, you should really raise the sump level. Closing it more than half way will likely cause a bit of surging in the skimmer because you end up restricting the flow out of the skimmer too much.


That's funny you mention that. I have my DC250 running at 37w, and I have it in 10" of water, and I have the output closed around 90%. Skimmer doesn't surge, but I tried lowering the skimmer even more, and it didn't matter. I still had to run the pipe closed 90%.

Side note. My skimmer works great, and skimms very consistent. Just boggles my mind why the pipe has to be closed so much.

slief
03/03/2016, 04:04 PM
That's funny you mention that. I have my DC250 running at 37w, and I have it in 10" of water, and I have the output closed around 90%. Skimmer doesn't surge, but I tried lowering the skimmer even more, and it didn't matter. I still had to run the pipe closed 90%.

Side note. My skimmer works great, and skimms very consistent. Just boggles my mind why the pipe has to be closed so much.

If I had to guess, you probably have a light load relative to the skimmer size. That Double Cone 250 skimmer is rated up to 390 gallons heavy load and they are conservatively rated. The lighter the load, the greater the need to have the skimmer running deep. I run a Supermarin 250 on my 480G display with over 50 fish in it. Many of which are 8" or more. While it's not the same model skimmer, they are very similar in design and the bodies are the same size and nearly the same volume. While I am not sure of your display size and load, if I had to guess, your skimmer is relatively oversized so you are having to run it deep to keep the foam head up high in the body. Especially given that your skimmer doesn't have to break a sweat to keep your DOC's to a minimum. The end result is consistently low DOC levels. At the end of the day, it's all about the consistency and the end result and as long as it's working for you, that is all that counts.

SchnitzelReef
03/03/2016, 04:11 PM
If I had to guess, you probably have a light load relative to the skimmer size. That Double Cone 250 skimmer is rated up to 390 gallons heavy load and they are conservatively rated. The lighter the load, the greater the need to have the skimmer running deep. I run a Supermarin 250 on my 480G display with over 50 fish in it. Many of which are 8" or more. While it's not the same model skimmer, they are very similar in design and the bodies are the same size and nearly the same volume. While I am not sure of your display size and load, if I had to guess, your skimmer is relatively oversized so you are having to run it deep to keep the foam head up high in the body. Especially given that your skimmer doesn't have to break a sweat to keep your DOC's to a minimum. The end result is consistently low DOC levels.


Yea that's kind of what i had figured. Oh and to be clear, I am in no way complaining. I love my skimmer.

I wish I had done a little more research, I always assumed go big or go home when it comes to skimmers and what they are rated for. My display is 250g, and I have maybe 20 fish. (And they are smaller fish). I think I would have been better off going with a bubble magus....hahaha. Gotcha. No but seriously, I think a DC/SM 200 would have fit my tank better.

And I'm glad I posted this, hopefully someone reading this won't make the same mistake. Bigger is not better with Bubble King. These skimmers are no joke. I dose potassium nitrate weekly to try to keep my nitrates at 1ppm.

Quick snap of tank and skimmer
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee497/nickfrick66/580876D8-7E21-4DC3-B12D-8272976AE4CA_zpsjbxjd3ft.jpg (http://s1230.photobucket.com/user/nickfrick66/media/580876D8-7E21-4DC3-B12D-8272976AE4CA_zpsjbxjd3ft.jpg.html)

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee497/nickfrick66/2C131B64-1770-44AC-9BE0-9AA9A298961D_zpsetndictz.jpg (http://s1230.photobucket.com/user/nickfrick66/media/2C131B64-1770-44AC-9BE0-9AA9A298961D_zpsetndictz.jpg.html)

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee497/nickfrick66/9EE018AF-1951-4CAF-922E-CEBC225DB63C_zpsdoldulge.jpg (http://s1230.photobucket.com/user/nickfrick66/media/9EE018AF-1951-4CAF-922E-CEBC225DB63C_zpsdoldulge.jpg.html)

slief
03/03/2016, 04:34 PM
Yea that's kind of what i had figured. Oh and to be clear, I am in no way complaining. I love my skimmer.

I wish I had done a little more research, I always assumed go big or go home when it comes to skimmers and what they are rated for. My display is 250g, and I have maybe 20 fish. (And they are smaller fish). I think I would have been better off going with a bubble magus....hahaha. Gotcha. No but seriously, I think a DC/SM 200 would have fit my tank better.

And I'm glad I posted this, hopefully someone reading this won't make the same mistake. Bigger is not better with Bubble King. These skimmers are no joke. I dose potassium nitrate weekly to try to keep my nitrates at 1ppm.

Quick snap of tank and skimmer
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee497/nickfrick66/580876D8-7E21-4DC3-B12D-8272976AE4CA_zpsjbxjd3ft.jpg (http://s1230.photobucket.com/user/nickfrick66/media/580876D8-7E21-4DC3-B12D-8272976AE4CA_zpsjbxjd3ft.jpg.html)

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee497/nickfrick66/2C131B64-1770-44AC-9BE0-9AA9A298961D_zpsetndictz.jpg (http://s1230.photobucket.com/user/nickfrick66/media/2C131B64-1770-44AC-9BE0-9AA9A298961D_zpsetndictz.jpg.html)

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Good god.. Your tank is gorgeous and your skimmer looks like it's performing amazingly well given the size of your display. I wonder if your dosing has something to do with the skimmers performance given the light load??? I wouldn't expect that good of foam consistently given the skimmer size in relation to your load. I run mine wet so I don't see that kind of foam making it's way into the cup despite my heavier load. Then again, the Supermarin's are really great for wet skimming anyway.

I just took these now. This is about 5 days of worth of skimmate. Running at 37 watts and 8.5". Wedge pipe is just shy of 1/4 closed but again, this is the SM250 on a much heavier load.

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/shleif/Tanks/Skimmer/image_zpsogknzmmh.jpeg


http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/shleif/Tanks/Skimmer/image_zpsd8z1f8wf.jpeg

ReefPharmer
03/03/2016, 04:35 PM
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That's when I first set it up. I no longer get buildup on the neck area

SchnitzelReef
03/03/2016, 04:36 PM
Good god.. Your tank is gorgeous and your skimmer looks like it's performing amazingly well given the size of your display. I wonder if your dosing has something to do with the skimmers performance??? I wouldn't expect that good of foam consistently given the skimmer size in relation to your load. I run mine wet so I don't see that kind of foam making it's way into the cup despite my heavier load. Then again, the Supermarin's are really great for wet skimming anyway.



I just took these now. This is about 5 days of worth of skimmate. Running at 37 watts and 8.5". Wedge pipe is just shy of 1/4 closed but again, this is the SM250 on a much heavier load.



http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/shleif/Tanks/Skimmer/image_zpsogknzmmh.jpeg





http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/shleif/Tanks/Skimmer/image_zpsd8z1f8wf.jpeg


Looks tasty lol

My skimmer doesn't consistently foam like that. It comes in waves. Some times it foams like crazy, and sometimes it just cruises by not foaming much. I consider that consistent with my bioload

slief
03/03/2016, 04:39 PM
Looks tasty lol

My skimmer doesn't consistently foam like that. It comes in waves. Some times it foams like crazy, and sometimes it just cruises by not foaming much. I consider that consistent with my bioload



That makes sense and is in line with what I would expect under the circumstances.


Yea, mine looks tasty all right.. :lolspin: I drain it every week or so into a 1.5 gallon jug. I dump the jug down the toilet when it gets full. That is the one chore I don't like because as you might expect, it's pretty rancid smelling. :D

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/shleif/Tanks/Sump%20rr/image_zpsp0w4gvhm.jpg

SchnitzelReef
03/03/2016, 04:51 PM
That makes sense and is in line with what I would expect under the circumstances.


Yea, mine looks tasty all right.. :lolspin: I drain it every week or so into a 1.5 gallon jug. I dump the jug down the toilet when it gets full. That is the one chore I don't like because as you might expect, it's pretty rancid smelling. :D

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/shleif/Tanks/Sump%20rr/image_zpsp0w4gvhm.jpg


In the past year and half, I have NEVER manually drained my collection cup. :)
I have a dosing pump hooked up to my collection cup drain line. It goes out the side of my house, and into a drain on my side yard. I push a button on my apex, and out goes the fish poo. I still pull the collection cup and clean it once every couple months.

This has made my life so much easier. Never worry about my skimmer stinking up my house. Next to my ATO, this is my second must have fish tank gadget.

slief
03/03/2016, 04:57 PM
In the past year and half, I have NEVER manually drained my collection cup. :)
I have a dosing pump hooked up to my collection cup drain line. It goes out the side of my house, and into a drain on my side yard. I push a button on my apex, and out goes the fish poo. I still pull the collection cup and clean it once every couple months.

This has made my life so much easier. Never worry about my skimmer stinking up my house. Next to my ATO, this is my second must have fish tank gadget.

That's a good use of a dosing pump.. While I do drain the collection cup via a valve, I only remove the collection cup every several months or at the very least, when I clean my skimmer pump. My SCH keeps the neck nice and clean and with the push of a button on my Apex a valve opens on a near by water supply spigot and water is sprayed into the collection cup via the SCH wash down to rinse the collection cup. Truth is that I rarely ever use the washdown. The smell is only bad when I dump the container. Other than that, I can't really smell it.

Adamc1303
12/14/2016, 11:58 PM
This is one week on an SM250!

slief
12/15/2016, 08:56 AM
This is one week on an SM250!

Good grief!! That is a LOT of skimmate! You must have had a lot of DOC's in your water. How long have you been running that skimmer?

neiltus
12/15/2016, 06:12 PM
my modest setup on a reefer 350....just broke down skimmer and cleaned.

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l531/neiltus/aquarium/EAABBC1F-4D13-4C62-A558-27956FF61C8E_zpskbdtiy0f.jpg

Adamc1303
12/16/2016, 02:22 PM
Good grief!! That is a LOT of skimmate! You must have had a lot of DOC's in your water. How long have you been running that skimmer?

4 years but not that specific one. I had the one with the older pump and then last year or the year before they were on sale along with 80 watt red dragon pumps on premium aquatics so I got the newer one and sold the old skimmer. The skimmer is pulling crazy ski mate these last 2 weeks because I started using aqua forest products. It's probably the zeolites that are doing that.

Ouscazz
12/17/2016, 10:51 AM
Started up my new (first) Bubble King 24 hrs ago. :)

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phk36
12/19/2016, 02:23 PM
Best skimmer I have ever had SM 250 https://vimeo.com/196345187http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161219/4f7bd91dbaf09f1e14a248b7520fa70f.jpg

phk36
12/19/2016, 02:25 PM
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slief
12/19/2016, 03:59 PM
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Nice! Is that running with the RD3 or the standard Red Dragon? If RD3, what setting/wattage?

smokinreefer
12/22/2016, 02:24 PM
Hey,

Looking to get a bubble king for a 300g I'll be setting up.
It will be sps dominant, with a heavy fish load.

There's a BK200 available locally, but I think it's a mini, will this be good for my tank needs.
It has the red dragon pump.

Thanks for your input!

slief
12/22/2016, 03:30 PM
Hey,

Looking to get a bubble king for a 300g I'll be setting up.
It will be sps dominant, with a heavy fish load.

There's a BK200 available locally, but I think it's a mini, will this be good for my tank needs.
It has the red dragon pump.

Thanks for your input!
Is the display 300 gallons or is that the total system volume. You say heavy fish load but a heavy fish load is around 1/2" per gallon or about 150" worth of fish in a 300 gallon display. If you are truly planning on having a "heavy" fish load, the the Mini Bubble King 200 is going to be marginal in terms of size. I'd suggest a Double Cone 250, Deluxe 200 or Supermarin 200 if that is the case but you could get away with the 200 though not ideal. If you load will be a lot lower than that or if your display size is closer to 250 gallons then the Mini 200 would be fine. They are great skimmers though. Especially when coupled with the RD3.

smokinreefer
12/22/2016, 05:33 PM
Thanks for your input.

It's a 300 dispkay plus sump.
Planning on a handful of tangs 4-6
hopefully one or 2 angels (emperor)
A few dwarf angels.
A bunch of anthias.
And some misc smaller fish, clowns, cardinals, etc

slief
12/22/2016, 06:41 PM
Thanks for your input.

It's a 300 dispkay plus sump.
Planning on a handful of tangs 4-6
hopefully one or 2 angels (emperor)
A few dwarf angels.
A bunch of anthias.
And some misc smaller fish, clowns, cardinals, etc

Sounds like your load will be relatively moderate and not heavy given the display size. In that case, I think the Mini 200 would be a good skimmer for your setup. I prefer skimmers with the pump external to the body when given the choice but if the price is good, that is an amazing skimmer that will kick some serious butt and is by far the best small footprint skimmer money can buy.

Tayl
01/07/2017, 03:40 PM
Hi guys
Im looking at Purchasing Either a BK Supermarin200 or a BK DC 200 for a 225g SPS dominated tank with a med bio load (15 fish) so far. Tank is still in design stage Just looking for Opinions from the people that have them. Heard they are conservtive with the ratings of these Skimmers

Cheers

Rob

slief
01/07/2017, 10:14 PM
Hi guys
Im looking at Purchasing Either a BK Supermarin200 or a BK DC 200 for a 225g SPS dominated tank with a med bio load (15 fish) so far. Tank is still in design stage Just looking for Opinions from the people that have them. Heard they are conservtive with the ratings of these Skimmers

Cheers

Rob

The ratings are definitely conservative and I woudn't suggest oversizing the skimmer if you want the best consistency. If you chose the SM200, you would want a truly heavy load for best performance. Heaving meaning upwards of 1/2" of fish per gallon of display volume. A Double Cone 200 would be very well suited though with a meadium load. If you are planning on a much heavier load than you currently have and are going to be adding larger fish, then SM200 would work well too.

Tayl
01/08/2017, 03:01 AM
The ratings are definitely conservative and I woudn't suggest oversizing the skimmer if you want the best consistency. If you chose the SM200, you would want a truly heavy load for best performance. Heaving meaning upwards of 1/2" of fish per gallon of display volume. A Double Cone 200 would be very well suited though with a meadium load. If you are planning on a much heavier load than you currently have and are going to be adding larger fish, then SM200 would work well too.

Hi Slief
Thanks for the reply mate after reading abit more I noticed that you only calculate DT volume only so if that is true then the DT is 180g sorry should have read up abit more on that . Would the Double Cone 200 still be ok with med fish stocking?

Cheers

Rob

slief
01/08/2017, 10:25 AM
Hi Slief
Thanks for the reply mate after reading abit more I noticed that you only calculate DT volume only so if that is true then the DT is 180g sorry should have read up abit more on that . Would the Double Cone 200 still be ok with med fish stocking?

Cheers

Rob

Yes. The Double Cone 200 would still be just fine. We go based on display volume because that is where the load is concentrated and created. Our sumps and refugiums decrease the load instead of contributing towards it. Since Bubble King skimmers are already conservatively rated, that is the best method for sizing a BK to an aquarium.

Tayl
01/10/2017, 12:00 AM
Yes. The Double Cone 200 would still be just fine. We go based on display volume because that is where the load is concentrated and created. Our sumps and refugiums decrease the load instead of contributing towards it. Since Bubble King skimmers are already conservatively rated, that is the best method for sizing a BK to an aquarium.

Thanks mate for help

Cheers rob

biecacka
01/10/2017, 02:54 PM
The double cone is a great skimmer!!! I run it on my 240 gallon tank with 30 fish in it and I'm adding 20 more fish probably. I'll then up my feedings to 4-6 times a day plus a whole sheet of nori. I too looked at the SM 200 and was told it was too big for my future plans. You won't regret the dc200! :)

Corey

Maximus
01/10/2017, 05:18 PM
After 20+ years in reefing, owning just about every skimmer out there (ATB, H&S, Euroreef, Vertex etc.) I finally ordered a BK Mini 180!! I just hope my tank comes soon!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/sanglee24/Mobile%20Uploads/3B80CDD7-1BBC-47FD-9FF7-27BAAED00B06.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sanglee24/media/Mobile%20Uploads/3B80CDD7-1BBC-47FD-9FF7-27BAAED00B06.jpg.html)

Ouscazz
01/11/2017, 12:38 AM
Hi guys
Im looking at Purchasing Either a BK Supermarin200 or a BK DC 200 for a 225g SPS dominated tank with a med bio load (15 fish) so far. Tank is still in design stage Just looking for Opinions from the people that have them. Heard they are conservtive with the ratings of these Skimmers

Cheers

Rob



I have a SM200 RD3 running in my 93gal SPS tank with 15 fish and two large anemones. I was told it would not work well, but in fact, it is.



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slief
01/11/2017, 09:18 AM
I have a SM200 RD3 running in my 93gal SPS tank with 15 fish and two large anemones. I was told it would not work well, but in fact, it is.



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It will work. we simply don't recommend it because a properly sized Bubble King will always perform better than an over sized one. An over sized skimmer isn't as consistent as a properly sized one unless you have a silly amount of dissolved organics. What ends up happening is that the amount of dissolved organics in the system will rise and fall as the skimmer will only really produce when there are enough DOC's in the water for the skimmer to be able to fill the neck completely with foam. Once the DOC's are reduce, the skimmer will slow down for a couple days or more during which time the DOC's in the water will build back up. Instead of maintaining consistently low levels of DOC's in the system, they will rise and fall and rise and fall. If you run the skimmer really wet, this can help because the water level in the skimmer is higher in the neck which reduces the amount of volume in the neck and thus reduces the skimmers need for as much foam to fill the neck. The whole principle of foam fractioning in a skimmer is based on the proteins/dissolved organics/DOC's being present so that the bubbles can stick together and become foam. In the absence of DOC's, you get bubbles that burst at the surface. If the skimmer is properly sized, it will always be working consistently hard and it will keep the nutrients consistently lower in the tank.In time, you might see what I am talking about if you find yourself wanting to or needed to make regular adjustments because it isn't producing skimmate like you feel it should be.

ClownReef®
01/17/2017, 03:57 PM
I love my 180 mini. For those of you running them, where can I buy a self cleaning head??

slief
01/17/2017, 04:29 PM
I love my 180 mini. For those of you running them, where can I buy a self cleaning head??

You can get one here (http://aquadriverusa.com/products/aquadriver-skimclean-helix-180). If you click on the description, there is a video in there showing it's construction and how it works. It's made in Germany and designed for that skimmer. The lid is PVC just like the one on your skimmer. You will not find a better self cleaning head anywhere. They have a dual wiper system that wipes the neck, lid and lid ring and use a high speed gear driven motor. They also draw water up from inside the skimmer body and squirt it on the inside of the neck and lid for a wet scrubbing. The underside of the lid where the wiper attaches is Cone shaped and actually improves skimmer performance by pushing the foam outwards towards the top edge of the neck.
I run mine once a day for 15 seconds and my neck is always clean.

ClownReef®
01/17/2017, 05:16 PM
You can get one here (http://aquadriverusa.com/products/aquadriver-skimclean-helix-180). If you click on the description, there is a video in there showing it's construction and how it works. It's made in Germany and designed for that skimmer. The lid is PVC just like the one on your skimmer. You will not find a better self cleaning head anywhere. They have a dual wiper system that wipes the neck, lid and lid ring and use a high speed gear driven motor. They also draw water up from inside the skimmer body and squirt it on the inside of the neck and lid for a wet scrubbing. The underside of the lid where the wiper attaches is Cone shaped and actually improves skimmer performance by pushing the foam outwards towards the top edge of the neck.
I run mine once a day for 15 seconds and my neck is always clean.

Thank you!!!

phk36
01/29/2017, 07:33 PM
Hey Scott, It is the standard pump. Sorry I did not answer sooner. Best skimmer I have ever used . I have a lot of fish and a large eel.

aplatn13
03/20/2017, 01:07 PM
:drool: