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Reef_Breeders
01/30/2016, 02:26 PM
The Photon series is our flagship line of lights, and the second generation of the Photons brings many of the features customers have requested since the release of the original.

The new Photon V2 is packed with new features and improvements:

Wireless 6-channel controller
5 watt Cree XT-E LEDs and 3 Watt Cree/Semi/Osram diodes
All Aluminum case
Built in mounting legs
Temperature controlled fans
2-Year USA warranty

You can order the new Photon V2 in sizes from 16" to 48" directly through our website, limited quantities are in stock!

https://www.reefbreeders.com/new-photon-v2/ (http://www.reefbreeders.com/new-photon-v2/)

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jrp1588
01/30/2016, 04:59 PM
Looks like a lot few LEDs than the old Photons. How do these compare in light output?

Savant
01/31/2016, 11:47 AM
I dont see the pricing for the 48"...lol are my old eyes missing it? :jester:

Reef_Breeders
01/31/2016, 05:32 PM
Looks like a lot few LEDs than the old Photons. How do these compare in light output?

They are about the same from the testing we've done so far. Less LEDs are used but the Crees are far more powerful than the bridgelux, you don't need as many diodes.

I dont see the pricing for the 48"...lol are my old eyes missing it? :jester:

They will be $649.99, we expect to have them in next week.

christopherjudd
02/03/2016, 07:05 PM
any pics/videos of this light in action? is the color similar to the original photons?

Rob Pnuke
02/04/2016, 03:27 PM
Would the Photon V2 16 be adequate for a tank that is 26.5x21x19?

Thanks

reefteaser
02/05/2016, 07:47 AM
Any plans for a wider version? I was looking at the older version that's on sale for my 60" wide tank.

Reef_Breeders
02/05/2016, 01:06 PM
any pics/videos of this light in action? is the color similar to the original photons?

Not yet, I am sure customers will post theirs soon as these are already shipping out.

Would the Photon V2 16 be adequate for a tank that is 26.5x21x19?

Thanks

Yes, that should be a good fit, you can use the included mounting legs.

Any plans for a wider version? I was looking at the older version that's on sale for my 60" wide tank.

The W in W series stands for Wireless, not wide. They are the same width at 8.5". If you mean longer, then yes we plan on a longer light in the coming months.

reefteaser
02/06/2016, 06:56 AM
60" side to side--some call it length, some width. Never thought about a "wide" version, but I bet there are some square-ish tanks that it might work for.
I was thinking of purchasing the Photon 60W on sale, but now I want to wait for the v2 version. I really like how slim they are, and my canopy isn't that high.
Maybe it's a stupid question, but can I assume the fans blow downward? If there're not on top now, can I mount in a cabinet with minimal space above?

Devaji108
02/07/2016, 10:29 AM
Logan any idea on shipping date?

Reef_Breeders
02/08/2016, 09:17 PM
60" side to side--some call it length, some width. Never thought about a "wide" version, but I bet there are some square-ish tanks that it might work for.
I was thinking of purchasing the Photon 60W on sale, but now I want to wait for the v2 version. I really like how slim they are, and my canopy isn't that high.
Maybe it's a stupid question, but can I assume the fans blow downward? If there're not on top now, can I mount in a cabinet with minimal space above?

My apologies, I have been asked if the W in Photon-W stood for wide instead of wireless in the past.

The fans blow air up to dissipate warm air on top of the light. They need at least 2-3" on all sides for proper ventilation, or holes above for the warm air to vent.

Logan any idea on shipping date?

Yes, most orders went out today, some will be going out tomorrow. There was a winter storm in the northeast that caused some delays with our pickup.

Jandree22
02/12/2016, 10:19 AM
Any idea how long the original Photon line will remain available?

mnkykng77
02/13/2016, 04:58 PM
Are there any plans to make a bracket for canopy mounting?

Reef_Breeders
02/13/2016, 07:02 PM
Any idea how long the original Photon line will remain available?

Until our current stock is sold. We will have them available for special order after that.

Are there any plans to make a bracket for canopy mounting?

They already have mounting posts, they slide into a T track on top of the light from the sides, you can substitute those pegs for a bolt of your choosing.

Rcj520
02/13/2016, 07:32 PM
Just ordered the photon 32-v2 for my 40g Breeder. Definetly excited to see what it's like. It's my first sw tank and first led fixture.

Ron Reefman
02/14/2016, 07:51 AM
Logan, I'm curious about the new V2 series.

I have two IT2080 (same as the Photon 32 but with a custom led layout) over a 180g sps and lps reef. I'm seriously considering the new Photon 32-V2 as an improvement but I wish it was a bit more blue like the Photon 32. They have been great fixtures running 24/7/365 from just after they came out over 3 years ago and ReefBreeders was just getting started. Actually I like your led layout better than my custom layout, but I didn't know about ReefBreeders at that time (you were just getting started I think).

If you take the number of blue & violet leds times the wattage and do the same for white leds times the wattage you get these results:

Old Photon 32 is 210 watts of blue (using 3 watts which should be at 2.2 watts but lets not quibble)
And it's 66 watts of white.
Making a 3.2 : 1 ratio of blue to white.

The new Photon 32-V2 is 185 watts of blue (what are the 5 watt Crees really running at? And what lens do the 5 watt Cree led have?)
And 80 watts of white.
Making a 2.3 : 1 ratio of blue to white.

Why the big drop in blue power? Especially when I think most reefers are already running the blue channel much higher than the white channel when it was a 3.2 : 1 ratio.

Thanks for your help.

EvenFurther
02/14/2016, 12:20 PM
Are the V2's UL approved?

Reef_Breeders
02/14/2016, 06:14 PM
Logan, I'm curious about the new V2 series.

I have two IT2080 (same as the Photon 32 but with a custom led layout) over a 180g sps and lps reef. I'm seriously considering the new Photon 32-V2 as an improvement but I wish it was a bit more blue like the Photon 32. They have been great fixtures running 24/7/365 from just after they came out over 3 years ago and ReefBreeders was just getting started. Actually I like your led layout better than my custom layout, but I didn't know about ReefBreeders at that time (you were just getting started I think).

If you take the number of blue & violet leds times the wattage and do the same for white leds times the wattage you get these results:

Old Photon 32 is 210 watts of blue (using 3 watts which should be at 2.2 watts but lets not quibble)
And it's 66 watts of white.
Making a 3.2 : 1 ratio of blue to white.

The new Photon 32-V2 is 185 watts of blue (what are the 5 watt Crees really running at? And what lens do the 5 watt Cree led have?)
And 80 watts of white.
Making a 2.3 : 1 ratio of blue to white.

Why the big drop in blue power? Especially when I think most reefers are already running the blue channel much higher than the white channel when it was a 3.2 : 1 ratio.

Thanks for your help.

Good question- the default factory layout actually called for more whites than royal blues, I of course changed that. 3 watts vs 2.2 watts is 50% more- that's a huge difference. Also, you can't really go by wattage, the Cree LEDs are much more efficient, one XT-E 450nm is going to be around 2-3 times what each bridgelux royal blue can put out.

Plus, you can run the violets, cool blues, and royal blues at full blast, and turn just the white LEDs down as low as you want, there are 6 channels so you can go as blue as you prefer, without dimming anything but the white channel. I will use a kilowatt meter and determine exactly how many watts each LED uses.

Are the V2's UL approved?

They are CE certified and ROHS compliant, just like the original Photon series.

Devaji108
02/16/2016, 10:43 PM
Logan how nosy are the fans? I am surprised there not any pics or videos of these yet...anywhere on the net. soon I hope... :D

Rcj520
02/18/2016, 01:03 PM
Just got mine delivered at my job today. First impression is very good. Great packaging and seems well built. More to come in the next few days after its set up

Devaji108
02/18/2016, 02:16 PM
^ nice! pls do keep us posted!

Mrw1936
02/20/2016, 07:23 PM
So anyone have any hands on reviews yet?

Rcj520
02/21/2016, 08:49 PM
I'm new here, so how to post photos off my phone, not a clue. But I have the photon 32 v2 over my 40g Breeder and its amazing. I have an intricate aquascape with alot of rocks, I I currently have no spots with shadows. This thing is a beast. The 6 channels is wonderful for customization. I had a party at my house, so I lowered the white and green lights, bumped up the reds and blues, and had and awesome mix of blue, purple, and red shimmer. My purple coralline and red algae almost looked like neon they popped so much. There is plenty of power on these things, tank looks great at only 10-20% power. 100% power is almost blinding. I have no experience with corals yet, but I could never see my tank needing the full potential of this light. Still messing with the programming and using the controller (lost the instructions) but it's really easy to set up and use. I'll have my 24 hour program set soon enough. Overall, I am very happy. Awesome product, great packaging, everything feels expensive and high quality. Also, Logan has great customer service. I would recommend this to anyone. I'll be getting into corals in a few months, so I'll probably do a full review after seeing how corals react to it.

cbodey
02/24/2016, 10:47 AM
This light is by far amazing. I would rank it up there with kessil




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cbodey
02/24/2016, 10:47 AM
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Mrw1936
02/24/2016, 08:05 PM
Just installed my new 48" v2. I really like the light, but it's very easy to see why a lot of people struggle with LED'S. On one hand it's very nice to play with all the different settings, on the other it's way to easy to play with them to much and never let anything settle in. Either way, the build quality seems very good. The controler works through the canopy from across the room. Absolutely no dark spots on my 75 gal.

mrpergo
02/25/2016, 08:59 AM
hows the shimmer ?

Mrw1936
02/25/2016, 09:17 AM
It's not bad, the fixture is mounted about 10 inches up, but I also have 2 54w t5's mounted inside my canopy. I'm sure they take away a lot. I do like that they can be adjusted down to 1%.

Ron Reefman
02/28/2016, 07:11 AM
Logan, I'm getting closer to pulling the triger on a couple of Photon 32-V2 fixtures and a couple of the new Jebao gyre pumps. But I have a few questions:

1) Is the aluminum case painted or powder coated?

2) With all the screw or bolt heads sticking out the bottom face of the fixture, are they stainless, aluminum or steel and are they painted or powder coated. Given they face the water I know they may corrode if not done right. Especially if they are painted and in taking the fixture apart, you chip the paint and it's a steel head.

3) How about the nuts behind the fan mounts? I have several EverGrow fixtures and pulling air off the top of the tank and through the fixture, the nuts inside really can rust up pretty bad.

4) In the Photon 32 the 3 watt leds were driven at 2.2 watts. What are the 3 and 5 watt leds in the new V2 version driven at?

5) And finally, given the V2 is new and so is the Jebao gyre, are they both in stock?

I think the new look of the Photon V2 and the new led layout are really the equal of much more expensive fixtures in the market. Having full color control and using better leds is also top quality. Enough better that I'm considering replacing 2 EverGrow IT2080 fixtures that have been running perfectly for over 3 years now. But I'd like to go to using legs and get rid of my canopy and have a bit more color control. Also think the more powerful remote is a big improvement.

Thanks,
Ron

Devaji108
02/29/2016, 09:44 AM
^ Ron good questions I was thinking the same on a cpl... good job!
i am surprised there are not more reviews from ppl yet.

Reef_Breeders
02/29/2016, 02:17 PM
Logan, I'm getting closer to pulling the triger on a couple of Photon 32-V2 fixtures and a couple of the new Jebao gyre pumps. But I have a few questions:

1) Is the aluminum case painted or powder coated?

2) With all the screw or bolt heads sticking out the bottom face of the fixture, are they stainless, aluminum or steel and are they painted or powder coated. Given they face the water I know they may corrode if not done right. Especially if they are painted and in taking the fixture apart, you chip the paint and it's a steel head.

3) How about the nuts behind the fan mounts? I have several EverGrow fixtures and pulling air off the top of the tank and through the fixture, the nuts inside really can rust up pretty bad.

4) In the Photon 32 the 3 watt leds were driven at 2.2 watts. What are the 3 and 5 watt leds in the new V2 version driven at?

5) And finally, given the V2 is new and so is the Jebao gyre, are they both in stock?

I think the new look of the Photon V2 and the new led layout are really the equal of much more expensive fixtures in the market. Having full color control and using better leds is also top quality. Enough better that I'm considering replacing 2 EverGrow IT2080 fixtures that have been running perfectly for over 3 years now. But I'd like to go to using legs and get rid of my canopy and have a bit more color control. Also think the more powerful remote is a big improvement.

Thanks,
Ron

1) They are powder coated

2) The screws are powder coated. The original design called for plastic, but plastic breaks easily, so the only way to screw in the panel is with metal screws. Unless you have a canopy with poor ventilation, it should not become an issue.

3) They never come into direct contact with the air, there is a circular cut out, and the mounting screws are sealed inside the light.

4) The 5 watt LEDs are driven around 4.3 watts, the 3 watt LEDs around 2.5. I will get exact numbers for each channel, those are just quick estimates based on some testing I did with a killowatt meter.

5)Yes, the new V2s are in stock. We will not be carrying the jebao gyre pumps- I decided that we should sell the maxspect gyre instead.

Rcj520
03/01/2016, 07:26 PM
Just a quick pic of my photon 32 v2 over my 40 gallon breeder. Absolutely enough light for my tank, no shadows anywhere and I looks great. Awesome build quality as well. It's a new tank so no word on how corrals do yet though. This pic is at most 20% power on any of the channels. Plenty of power on this thing.
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt219/rcj520/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160301_202105_01_zpssfmg7i9e.jpg (http://s613.photobucket.com/user/rcj520/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160301_202105_01_zpssfmg7i9e.jpg.html)

jrp1588
03/01/2016, 07:34 PM
Just a quick pic of my photon 32 v2 over my 40 gallon breeder. Absolutely enough light for my tank, no shadows anywhere and I looks great. Awesome build quality as well. It's a new tank so no word on how corrals do yet though. This pic is at most 20% power on any of the channels. Plenty of power on this thing.
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt219/rcj520/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160301_202105_01_zpssfmg7i9e.jpg (http://s613.photobucket.com/user/rcj520/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160301_202105_01_zpssfmg7i9e.jpg.html)

Is the disco effect that pronounced in person? Doesn't look like very good color mixing.

Rcj520
03/01/2016, 08:27 PM
Colors mix perfectly fine. This tank is still cycling, so I havnt had my colors mixed and balanced properly, I'm just putting whatever colors I'm in the mood for, and that night there was a party so I had that effect on purpose. Plus, it's pretty hard to get good pictures using a phone.

Mrw1936
03/04/2016, 05:30 PM
Anyone see the par readings on reefbreeders website?

Flip_x
03/10/2016, 01:45 AM
Hello I was thinking of either getting the photon w60 or the v2 48". My tank is 55" 30" deep what would be better for me?

Reef_Breeders
03/11/2016, 09:18 AM
Hello I was thinking of either getting the photon w60 or the v2 48". My tank is 55" 30" deep what would be better for me?

I would recommend the 60-W for a 55" tank, or I can order in a 47.5" version of the 48-V2.

DavidinGA
03/11/2016, 09:44 AM
Interesting...

Mrw1936
03/11/2016, 11:40 AM
Been running mine for a couple weeks now. Switched from a maxspect razor and couldn't be happier. The spread is awesome, color is great, just enough shimmer. Great light.

Flip_x
03/11/2016, 08:23 PM
I would recommend the 60-W for a 55" tank, or I can order in a 47.5" version of the 48-V2.



Definitely interested in a 47.5"v2 I emailed you back!!
Cedric

Mrw1936
03/13/2016, 06:35 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160313/0a02a1dd9d78c168e87f7c23c163267a.jpg

Mrw1936
03/13/2016, 06:36 PM
Loving mine

Scranton
03/13/2016, 08:37 PM
Any chance of seeing a sale on these any time soon?

Devaji108
03/15/2016, 11:48 AM
love your tank. great aquascaping job! and the V2 are looking amazing...

Mrw1936
03/15/2016, 05:52 PM
If that was for me thank you!!! Haha

rs25wrx
03/19/2016, 06:15 PM
Does anyone have their 24hr light cycle settings for the V2. I just got mine and can't wait to start using it. the 6 channels is a lot different then the 2 channels I dealt with on the original photon. Thanks!

Mrw1936
03/19/2016, 08:01 PM
I don't have it off hand, but I max out at 65% for 2 hours, get there slowly for 4 hours, and slowly ramp down for 4 hours. I set each setting to my personal preference for looks. I also have a couple T5's on for 4 hours in the middle of the light cycle. Not sure what is the most beneficial setting as far as spectrum, so I'm trying it just to what looks good to me.

rs25wrx
03/20/2016, 07:53 AM
Thanks, shot you a message as well. Nice setup btw!

Mrw1936
03/20/2016, 08:30 AM
No problem, I can get you the exact schedule shortly

Jon Lazar
03/21/2016, 03:21 PM
I liked the look of the version 1 photons, but these look even better.

- I'm planning a 96" long x 28" deep x 30" tall build. I'm assuming that two 48" fixtures might be adequate, but that I'll really need four 48" fixtures to give me good coverage front to back, with little shadowing. Do you agree?

- How much does the 48" fixture weigh? How much does it weigh with the power supply?

- Can I input the programming once and have the schedule go to all four fixtures? Or do I have to program each one separately?

rs25wrx
03/21/2016, 04:13 PM
No problem, I can get you the exact schedule shortly

Tried to PM you but RC won't let me until 10 post. Whenever you can, please pm me your light schedule, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks again!

Reef_Breeders
03/22/2016, 10:36 PM
I liked the look of the version 1 photons, but these look even better.

- I'm planning a 96" long x 28" deep x 30" tall build. I'm assuming that two 48" fixtures might be adequate, but that I'll really need four 48" fixtures to give me good coverage front to back, with little shadowing. Do you agree?

- How much does the 48" fixture weigh? How much does it weigh with the power supply?

- Can I input the programming once and have the schedule go to all four fixtures? Or do I have to program each one separately?

1) I agree, you can also use 4 24-V2s mounted perpendicular to the tank for a mixed reef with sps.

2) They weight about 20 pounds, power supply is about 3 pounds.

3) Yes, the controller will do this automatically.

mrbee2828
07/18/2016, 02:01 PM
Has anyone done any alternate mounting that doesn't use the hangers? I was wondering if there was a solid way to mount this directly to 8020.

Reef_Breeders
07/20/2016, 05:43 PM
Hi,

What is an 8020?

They include legs/brackets for mounting the light to the tank.

Jon Lazar
07/21/2016, 11:14 AM
Mr. Bee means extruded aluminum from 8020 dot net.

Reef_Breeders
07/21/2016, 03:30 PM
I see, the top of the lights actually has built in T tracks, you can remove the included bolts and substitute your own.

bnagy0
10/04/2016, 10:42 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161004/f83771197b458b1274616310d92c0e74.jpg

Mounted in canopy using D hooks. 7" above water.

Old current USA lighting below.
New photon v2 lighting above!!

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bnagy0
10/08/2016, 10:46 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161004/f83771197b458b1274616310d92c0e74.jpg

Mounted in canopy using D hooks. 7" above water.

Old current USA lighting below.
New photon v2 lighting above!!

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http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161009/a752ead0e3fdb7a3125107444a3776d0.jpg

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