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Hollifields
06/14/2016, 05:33 PM
Today
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg495/hollifields/274E8E6D-1CEC-48C6-A9BE-BB57A4378EBC_zpshy43nmya.jpg
Yesterday
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg495/hollifields/B11E2316-8956-4E60-8116-0A94BC2C4A25_zpssz9dsrjy.jpg
She was the only fish out of 25 (misc reef safe) but only tang that was affected when my tank broke out in a toxin war from removing aggressive Palys.
Her eyes progressively get worse, she's blind now. Her breathing seems a bit better, less labored.
She's in a hospital QT and been treated with metroplex, prime and carbon. She cannot see to find food, continues to swim in a circle and randomly jumps as if scared (obviously) :((
Any treatment suggestions, thoughts, ideas appreciated!
Dmorty217
06/14/2016, 06:32 PM
Tricaine-s or clove oil to euthanize... There is nothing that bring sight back if in fact it's blind. Will slowly starve to death if not.
ThRoewer
06/14/2016, 09:06 PM
I would wait for a week or two to see if he recovers before putting him down. Also, blind fish are not always doomed, especially not fish that graze as long as there are enough algae patches to feed on.
j_mazzy
06/14/2016, 09:17 PM
Looks like bubble eye bacteria. 100% sure its from zoanthids?
Dmorty217
06/15/2016, 04:54 AM
I would wait for a week or two to see if he recovers before putting him down. Also, blind fish are not always doomed, especially not fish that graze as long as there are enough algae patches to feed on.
I had a blind one spot foxface that was in a tank full of nothing but macro algae and it wouldn't eat any of it even after running into it... Lived for 4 months before dying. If the fish is blind it will die, just like it would in the wild except it won't be by a predator
jbvdhp
06/15/2016, 11:21 AM
Lol that's not "blind". An edematous cornea doesn't equate to blindness, I'd wait to see if the swelling goes away. Vision loss would occur with a completely opaque cornea, ruptured cornea, cataract.
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eastlake
06/15/2016, 11:43 AM
Forgive me if I'm speaking out of school but if you're running carbon with medications isn't the carbon pulling out the medication thus nullifying the effects? I don't have any experience using those medications so I don't know if they work with active carbon in place. And I've had luck using melafix for popeye, which to me is what that looks like. Definitely wouldn't condemn the little fella just yet. Good luck and sorry to hear about the tank situation.
ThRoewer
06/15/2016, 11:58 AM
Forgive me if I'm speaking out of school but if you're running carbon with medications isn't the carbon pulling out the medication thus nullifying the effects? I don't have any experience using those medications so I don't know if they work with active carbon in place. And I've had luck using melafix for popeye, which to me is what that looks like. Definitely wouldn't condemn the little fella just yet. Good luck and sorry to hear about the tank situation.
Precisely! Running carbon with medication is a waste of both.
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Hollifields
06/16/2016, 04:00 AM
Tricaine-s or clove oil to euthanize... There is nothing that bring sight back if in fact it's blind. Will slowly starve to death if not.
It's not seeing a thing yet but got treatment suggestions from Humblefish off *********.
I've added Epson salt to the water to try to reduce the swelling and picking up antibiotic in AM for the infection.
In just a few days I can already see the weight-loss it's heartbreaking but I'm gonna wait it out another day or two with treatment there's hope.
Thrower, thanks that's giving it a chance anyway.
DMorty, was wondering what would be the fastest with least pain. Someone said put it in the freezer and that gave me the shivers thinking about it! I'll get clove, thanks.
Hollifields
06/16/2016, 04:01 AM
Precisely! Running carbon with medication is a waste of both.
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Clean of both now, fingers crossed.
Hollifields
06/16/2016, 04:02 AM
Lol that's not "blind". An edematous cornea doesn't equate to blindness, I'd wait to see if the swelling goes away. Vision loss would occur with a completely opaque cornea, ruptured cornea, cataract.
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Loving what your saying, and your eye :)
Dmorty217
06/16/2016, 04:24 AM
It's not seeing a thing yet but got treatment suggestions from Humblefish off *********.
I've added Epson salt to the water to try to reduce the swelling and picking up antibiotic in AM for the infection.
In just a few days I can already see the weight-loss it's heartbreaking but I'm gonna wait it out another day or two with treatment there's hope.
Thrower, thanks that's giving it a chance anyway.
DMorty, was wondering what would be the fastest with least pain. Someone said put it in the freezer and that gave me the shivers thinking about it! I'll get clove, thanks.
Tricaine-S or clove oil and overdose it. Never freeze a fish that's still alive
Hollifields
06/16/2016, 10:30 AM
Tricaine-S or clove oil and overdose it. Never freeze a fish that's still alive
Appreciate it, it sounded horrible but had never done this and would have researched or asked first.
Your way is much easier on me and the fish.
Deb
Hollifields
06/19/2016, 02:53 PM
Her eyes have healed almost completely. Bad news is unless I corner her and stick seaweed in her face, she don't eat. I'm just about positive she's blind :(
jbvdhp
06/20/2016, 01:24 PM
Her eyes have healed almost completely. Bad news is unless I corner her and stick seaweed in her face, she don't eat. I'm just about positive she's blind :(
Unless you can examine a Tang retina, I highly doubt she's blind. YT are very skittish fish to begin with, so I'd give it some time
Hollifields
06/22/2016, 05:50 AM
Princess dead through-out the night.
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