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Aquaforest
07/15/2016, 08:30 AM
New Aquaforest Products soon available in local stores!

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coral102
07/15/2016, 07:23 PM
Can't wait to give it a try. Is the Life Bio Fil similar to siporax?

ClearwaterUK
07/16/2016, 02:42 AM
more a replacement for Zeolite as I understand it

tamama
07/17/2016, 03:34 AM
more a replacement for Zeolite as I understand it
Then what happens to the zeomix?

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MichaelW
07/17/2016, 08:01 AM
To me it looks more like a replacement for sopirax etc, than zeomix. The part I don't get is the replacement part. Of its a media to house bacteria like sopirax I don't get why you would then remove it.

UB400
07/18/2016, 12:16 AM
More information on the Life Bio Fil please. Can we get an image of the contents of the container?
Can it be used to quickly cycle a new Tank and how long?
Thanks.

ClearwaterUK
07/18/2016, 02:39 AM
More information on the Life Bio Fil please. Can we get an image of the contents of the container?
Can it be used to quickly cycle a new Tank and how long?
Thanks.

Yes it helps with the cycle, each tank will be different though, so you will still need to test Amonia > Nitrite > Nitrate as the quality of live rock isn't universal

ClearwaterUK
07/18/2016, 02:40 AM
To me it looks more like a replacement for sopirax etc, than zeomix. The part I don't get is the replacement part. Of its a media to house bacteria like sopirax I don't get why you would then remove it.

The replacement s to keep the bacteria levels optimum

ClearwaterUK
07/18/2016, 04:16 AM
More information on the Life Bio Fil please. Can we get an image of the contents of the container?
Can it be used to quickly cycle a new Tank and how long?
Thanks.

Should have an Image for you later in the week

Razor Blade
08/04/2016, 12:31 PM
Should have an Image for you later in the week

Any update on that image? :)

Aquaforest
08/05/2016, 01:00 AM
Any update on that image? :)

http://aquaforest.eu/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Life-Bio-Fil-photo.jpg

plyle02
08/05/2016, 03:06 PM
That media looks very porous :) Cannot wait for it to get to the US... :)

JaySchulz
08/05/2016, 03:51 PM
More info on the Bio Fil please.

Piper27
08/18/2016, 08:22 AM
So basically this is a media similar to sporax, matrix and the other ones like it, but it contains bacteria straight out of the package to help seed the bacteria population quickly?

Piper27
08/27/2016, 08:13 AM
Anyone?

plyle02
08/27/2016, 12:13 PM
So basically this is a media similar to sporax, matrix and the other ones like it, but it contains bacteria straight out of the package to help seed the bacteria population quickly?

Piper,
Yes, as far as I know, this will replace siporax or matrix, it however is recommended to change out 10% every 6 weeks or so. The other difference is that is comes with bacteria already seeded straight away, this is why I think this product will be awesome :) I plan on using it to replace my matrix when it comes available.

2dawghouse
08/29/2016, 08:38 AM
Piper,
Yes, as far as I know, this will replace siporax or matrix, it however is recommended to change out 10% every 6 weeks or so. The other difference is that is comes with bacteria already seeded straight away, this is why I think this product will be awesome :) I plan on using it to replace my matrix when it comes available.

Perry, can the Life Bio fil can be used in conjunction with ZEO Mix? If so can you use them in the same reactor? Or is it a direct replacement?

Potatohead
08/29/2016, 08:43 AM
Perry, can the Life Bio fil can be used in conjunction with ZEO Mix? If so can you use them in the same reactor? Or is it a direct replacement?

You wouldn't put it in a reactor, you would want it in the lowest flow area of the sump to allow denitrifying bacteria to colonize. It is like putting in a bunch of live rock, it has nothing to do with zeostones which is a different thing entirely. The zeostones remove ammonia from the water, which in turn lowers nitrates because there is less ammonia for bacteria to convert. The Bio Fil is basically a "home" for the bacteria to live.

2dawghouse
08/29/2016, 10:24 AM
You wouldn't put it in a reactor, you would want it in the lowest flow area of the sump to allow denitrifying bacteria to colonize. It is like putting in a bunch of live rock, it has nothing to do with zeostones which is a different thing entirely. The zeostones remove ammonia from the water, which in turn lowers nitrates because there is less ammonia for bacteria to convert. The Bio Fil is basically a "home" for the bacteria to live.

I gotcha. But since it has denitrifying bacteria already seeded and needs to be changed out as often as zeolites...isn't it basically zeolites...

Potatohead
08/29/2016, 10:39 AM
I gotcha. But since it has denitrifying bacteria already seeded and needs to be changed out as often as zeolites...isn't it basically zeolites...

No, because zeolites help nitrifying bacteria, not denitrifying bacteria.

Nitrifying convert ammonia to nitrite, to nitrate. Denitrifying convert nitrate to CO2 which is then gassed off. The latter are much harder to colonize in an aquarium as they need low flow and virtually no oxygen. Nitrifying bacteria are ready to go in about four weeks (your cycle) but denitrifying take much longer and that is assuming there is a place for them to grow. This is where the media comes in, they allow the denitrifying bacteria to live deep inside where there is almost no water flow. This is also why you typically change out some media periodically, as the bacteria only live so long and when they die they will start to clog the media pores. Other brands of media such as Siporax and Eheim SubstratPro recommend the same thing, but at the same time some people use it for years and never touch it without issue.

2dawghouse
08/29/2016, 11:03 AM
No, because zeolites help nitrifying bacteria, not denitrifying bacteria.

Nitrifying convert ammonia to nitrite, to nitrate. Denitrifying convert nitrate to CO2 which is then gassed off. The latter are much harder to colonize in an aquarium as they need low flow and virtually no oxygen. Nitrifying bacteria are ready to go in about four weeks (your cycle) but denitrifying take much longer and that is assuming there is a place for them to grow. This is where the media comes in, they allow the denitrifying bacteria to live deep inside where there is almost no water flow. This is also why you typically change out some media periodically, as the bacteria only live so long and when they die they will start to clog the media pores. Other brands of media such as Siporax and Eheim SubstratPro recommend the same thing, but at the same time some people use it for years and never touch it without issue.

Thank you, makes perfect sense to me now. So with the media pre-seeded with denitrifying bacteria, then the colonization should be instant for the most part?

Potatohead
08/29/2016, 11:03 AM
That's the theory, and if that is the case it would be awesome.

2dawghouse
08/29/2016, 11:07 AM
That's the theory, and if that is the case it would be awesome.

Do we know when it will be available?

spkennyva
09/05/2016, 02:03 PM
What's the reason for the suggestion to replace 10-20% of media every 6 weeks?

StinkyBunny
09/10/2016, 10:28 AM
What's the reason for the suggestion to replace 10-20% of media every 6 weeks?

I'm curious about this as well. If it's a sintered glass product why would you need to change it and if it acts like live rock, why change it out?

plyle02
09/10/2016, 05:21 PM
Life Bio Fil is not made of sintered glass, it is a pomex material, pre-seeded with proprietary bacteria strain. I will be using after MACNA. It will help for tanks limited with live rock, new tanks, and existing. The material is very light and very porous.

2dawghouse
09/10/2016, 06:12 PM
Life Bio Fil is not made of sintered glass, it is a pomex material, pre-seeded with proprietary bacteria strain. I will be using after MACNA. It will help for tanks limited with live rock, new tanks, and existing. The material is very light and very porous.

So when will it be available to the public?

plyle02
09/11/2016, 01:32 AM
From my understanding, it will be available in about 1 month, maybe less. Stay tuned :)

plyle02
09/11/2016, 02:03 AM
:) :) :)

plyle02
09/11/2016, 02:07 PM
Correction, the material is pomice :)

Wally.B
09/27/2016, 02:33 PM
Thought I'd post this here.

When I re-ordered my AquarForest products, by mistake ordered Bio-S, instead of Pro Bio-S which is what I wanted.

I realized this mistake after cracking open the bottle (which I thought was small).

I realize that BioS is bacteria, more for start up tanks. While Pro BioS is for established tanks like mine (containing more varieties of bacteria).

Is there any harm using the BioS bacteria in a established tank (Any value) ? Don't want to waste this open bottle.

Thanks

Aquaforest
09/28/2016, 01:38 AM
Yes you can use Bio S in established tank.
For reduce phosphate and nitrate you can buy Pro Bio S

Cbasss
01/03/2017, 01:55 PM
Alright lets make this post alive again..i just purchased this and was planning to use in phosban reactor..but i guess from reading this thread its better in sump low flow...any users tried it yet?

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2dawghouse
01/03/2017, 04:40 PM
Alright lets make this post alive again..i just purchased this and was planning to use in phosban reactor..but i guess from reading this thread its better in sump low flow...any users tried it yet?

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Where did you get it from?

Cbasss
01/03/2017, 05:21 PM
Local reef shop in canada

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dawen
01/06/2017, 09:26 PM
I'm about to add some into the phosban reactor over the weekend, since it needs low flow I can adjusted the valve from the return pump feeding it


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