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dweber618
08/12/2016, 11:34 AM
I just saw this on a local aquarium group page. So frustrating that people make recommendations like this just to make a buck.:headwally:

rhinonm
08/12/2016, 11:37 AM
Thanks for sharing...I have a similar situation. Ima go by 6 tangs right now to combat my cycling. Its a 20 gallon so they should have plenty of room to mingle.

Dmorty217
08/12/2016, 11:39 AM
"I've been doing this for years" he says... What a idiot. I hope someone commented back and advised the OP that 5-6 tangs of any kind is not a way to deal with algae in a tank.

dweber618
08/12/2016, 11:40 AM
"I've been doing this for years" he says... What a idiot. I hope someone commented back and advised the OP that 5-6 tangs of any kind is not a way to deal with algae in a tank.

I just joined the group for the sole reason of commenting to advise against it.

Johnseye
08/12/2016, 11:41 AM
I have a bridge for sale too. Might help with that algae problem. Shameless.

MargieInAZ
08/12/2016, 12:01 PM
It sounds like a joke to me.

dweber618
08/12/2016, 12:07 PM
It sounds like a joke to me.

I've seen him post in other groups. He just moved to town here and left his old LFS on the west coast to be run by his son. He's been publishing a lot on local sites with fish he's got for sale, along with coral orders he's placing, etc. Even registered his business with the SOS...unfortunately I genuinely think he's trying to just make a buck - maybe I'm wrong.

I responded to the post, we'll see what I get back.

heathlindner25
08/12/2016, 04:00 PM
I can't blow the image up big enough to read it, what does it say?

Buzz1329
08/12/2016, 04:16 PM
Can't tell if this is pure ignorance or greed, but my bets on the latter.

snorvich
08/12/2016, 05:15 PM
Can't tell if this is pure ignorance or greed, but my bets on the latter.

Why do you have to choose??? :fun2:

dweber618
08/12/2016, 06:48 PM
I can't blow the image up big enough to read it, what does it say?

"As you know, your tank is cycling. Even though this may sound adverse, I would recommend getting four or five yellow tangs, or purple tangs if you want to go to that route, and let them just eat down all the green algae. The argument against it would be that it's increasing the bio load, which then can increase nitrates which then increases the algae bloom. But that is a result of waste as well as excess food. Mainly excess food. But I have been doing this for years with new tanks and it works out very very well. If you're in ***** I have 6 for sale"

heathlindner25
08/12/2016, 07:27 PM
"As you know, your tank is cycling. Even though this may sound adverse, I would recommend getting four or five yellow tangs, or purple tangs if you want to go to that route, and let them just eat down all the green algae. The argument against it would be that it's increasing the bio load, which then can increase nitrates which then increases the algae bloom. But that is a result of waste as well as excess food. Mainly excess food. But I have been doing this for years with new tanks and it works out very very well. If you're in ***** I have 6 for sale"
:mad:

Flippers4pups
08/12/2016, 07:27 PM
Seen plenty of these "experts" in my time. Sail clear of them, they are destroyers of the hobby.

RTab619
08/12/2016, 11:01 PM
Shame on them

SeaCucumberFan
08/13/2016, 12:42 AM
Me (Still a superbeginner, points at harlequin shrimp): Hey is that OK for a tank? Will it eat anything? I have a starfish I like so-

Guy: No, it will not eat anything in your tank

Me: Ok great!

1 MONTH LATER

Me: **** you dude

oldpaddy
08/13/2016, 05:25 AM
I'm not sure there's anything sinister behind his recommendations. I worked for a guy who ran a fish store out of his house and he'd do things or recommend things sometimes that would make me scratch my head. I think some of these lfs have been doing the same thing for thirty years and are set in their ways.

mfaso24
08/13/2016, 06:24 AM
I was once debating getting an angel for a reef. Was deciding between a flame and a coral beauty. The guy says "id go with the flame the coral Beauties are so common". Of course it's cause they're about twice as much. Then he starts saying how they don't nip coral, they are actually just eating algae that may be around the coral. [emoji849]


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Snarkys
08/13/2016, 06:41 AM
One of the coolest and often frustrating things about this hobby is there are 100 ways to achieve virtually the same results with our tanks. As we collectively search for the constantly evolving "best way" we see all kinds of opinions old and new, most various degrees of right. However, with the wealth of information that's out there now, it is so hard to imagine how advice like this is still passed around. Really mind boggling.

oldpaddy
08/13/2016, 07:38 AM
I was once debating getting an angel for a reef. Was deciding between a flame and a coral beauty. The guy says "id go with the flame the coral Beauties are so common". Of course it's cause they're about twice as much. Then he starts saying how they don't nip coral, they are actually just eating algae that may be around the coral. [emoji849]


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The guy I worked for convinced me to buy a file fish for an aptaisa issue I was going through.
Me: "I've read that filefish eat zoanthids and feather dusters."
Him: "Nope, I keep them in my systems and they don't touch either."
That damn filefish wasn't in my tank a week before he started attacking every zoanthid and feather duster I had. The guy wasn't trying to make a buck off me, he thought he was giving me sound advice.

slief
08/13/2016, 07:49 AM
I've seen him post in other groups. He just moved to town here and left his old LFS on the west coast to be run by his son. He's been publishing a lot on local sites with fish he's got for sale, along with coral orders he's placing, etc. Even registered his business with the SOS...unfortunately I genuinely think he's trying to just make a buck - maybe I'm wrong.

I responded to the post, we'll see what I get back.

Dweber,
Off topic but are you in Montana? If so, where? I spent over a year in Thompson Fallis back in the 80's and I am looking to move back to Western Montana in the not so distant future.. I miss that area terribly and have grown tired of So. Cal where I have pretty much spent my entire life.

Regarding the topic at hand. There is really nothing I can add. This kind of advice flies in the face of everything most of us have learned over the years.

SeaCucumberFan
08/13/2016, 07:56 AM
The guy I worked for convinced me to buy a file fish for an aptaisa issue I was going through.
Me: "I've read that filefish eat zoanthids and feather dusters."
Him: "Nope, I keep them in my systems and they don't touch either."
That damn filefish wasn't in my tank a week before he started attacking every zoanthid and feather duster I had. The guy wasn't trying to make a buck off me, he thought he was giving me sound advice.
LOL so that's what killed my zoas and Feather dusters!! Thanks

dweber618
08/13/2016, 08:18 AM
Dweber,
Off topic but are you in Montana? If so, where? I spent over a year in Thompson Fallis back in the 80's and I am looking to move back to Western Montana in the not so distant future.. I miss that area terribly and have grown tired of So. Cal where I have pretty much spent my entire life.

Regarding the topic at hand. There is really nothing I can add. This kind of advice flies in the face of everything most of us have learned over the years.

I am in MT! I'm in Bozeman, and haven't ventured much out West. However - if Bozeman's growth is any indication, be prepared for quite the change. I've only been here for about 10 years and the growth in those 10 years alone is crazy. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else though.


Surprisingly the original poster has yet to even acknowledge my post back to him. As Ryan stated above, the whole thing is mind boggling. I'm glad I found this forum early on to avoid falling victim to such terrible advice. Eesh.

Bent
08/13/2016, 09:08 AM
These threads kill me.


It's like saying: "this is why you can't trust your local used car dealer".

Sk8r
08/13/2016, 02:19 PM
What I love is ..."...or purple tangs..." @ 200.00 a swat. To combat hair algae, which is one of the easiest plagues we deal with. Oh, yes. I want to hear his advice for red bug.

Bent
08/13/2016, 03:40 PM
I still blame the consumer for not being educated. I don't understand why people do this kind of thing when it comes to fish. You wouldn't do this with any other animal.

I mean, no one in their right mind would go buy 4 or 5 cats to combat a mouse problem no matter who told them to.

Sk8r
08/13/2016, 03:43 PM
The number of people who do not know jack about environments different than their own (on many levels) exceeds those who do. Unfortunately. Jack is not a popular boy.

henelay
08/14/2016, 03:52 AM
"Oh hey I have this coralline encrusted rock cycled that is on sale"

Rock has been sitting in the sun for a year now and the "coralline" is still on it
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