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pecan2phat
09/22/2016, 04:58 AM
Has anyone been able to keep Maximas or Croceas in a bare bottom tank?

TIA

MondoBongo
09/22/2016, 08:56 AM
crocea should never be on the substrate to begin with, they should be as high in the rock work as possible. so it's a moot point whether or not the tank is bare bottom for them.

tanksfishtank
09/22/2016, 02:39 PM
MondoBongo what is the reasoning for crocea clams not being on substrate? I have never owned one. My maxima's always did well in the sand. Not sure how it would do on a bare bottom other than the sand helps keep it upright.

MondoBongo
09/22/2016, 02:59 PM
In nature crocea are found embedded in large coral heads.

They are extremely demanding of light, so the closer the better to the light source, and in my experience do best when up high in the rocks.

They also tolerate higher flow levels than some others like derasa.

Wazzel
09/26/2016, 02:52 PM
I keep clams in my bare bottom tank, but have them on ceramic disk. I just ordered some clam hammocks and they will be transferred. I keep Maximas and Derasas.

pecan2phat
09/27/2016, 04:45 AM
Thanks Wazzel, what I was looking for :)

Wazzel
09/27/2016, 02:26 PM
Thanks Wazzel, what I was looking for :)

Here is a FTS where you can see the clams. My teal T. Max and Deresa are in the center. My black T Max is in the front off to the right.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other-2/120-build/i-m9ZrmM9/0/L/image-L.jpg

cleverbs
10/07/2016, 09:46 AM
I kept my clams in BB. They where really small when I got them so they would blow arround so I ended up putting them on shells in a bowl of sand until they attached then the shell held them down and they would eventually move off of it onto the glass and stay.

AboutAcans
10/13/2016, 01:31 AM
I'm going to say this and probably catch a lot of flack. Croceas shouldn't be kept in the industry at all. I have yet to meet a person who has a Crocea over 3-4 years where the mantle isn't a faded black, with blue stripes, and the mantle is also turning white/grey as well. I've kept Maximas down there a lot. But if you can look around super hard for a Squamosa with some nice coloring

MondoBongo
10/13/2016, 06:35 AM
I'm going to say this and probably catch a lot of flack. Croceas shouldn't be kept in the industry at all. I have yet to meet a person who has a Crocea over 3-4 years where the mantle isn't a faded black, with blue stripes, and the mantle is also turning white/grey as well. I've kept Maximas down there a lot. But if you can look around super hard for a Squamosa with some nice coloring
I'm that guy. Hello!

Had mine for almost 4 years now. Still looks great.

I just make sure he's way up high in the rocks and getting plenty of light.

AboutAcans
10/13/2016, 08:51 AM
I'm that guy. Hello!

Had mine for almost 4 years now. Still looks great.

I just make sure he's way up high in the rocks and getting plenty of light.

Pictures please sir. Would love to see a Crocea that's been in a tank over 3 years and that black hasn't faded.

MondoBongo
10/13/2016, 09:14 AM
Pictures please sir. Would love to see a Crocea that's been in a tank over 3 years and that black hasn't faded.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161013/cb288913a040790503a79969318b36d4.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161013/8faa3d5f6073ad6f1bc7971a487a107b.jpg

First pic is from a few weeks ago. Second pic is from April. He's been with me for quite a while now, and even came through my tank move without issue.

AboutAcans
10/20/2016, 02:42 PM
I'm that guy. Hello!

Had mine for almost 4 years now. Still looks great.

I just make sure he's way up high in the rocks and getting plenty of light.

NNnnnnnope. See the mantle where it's getting cloudy and the black is slightly fading to grey? They all do that between the 3-5 year mark. It'll most likely keep getting lighter. If you have pictures from 2 years ago I wouldn't be surprised if the mantle was much more vivid

MondoBongo
10/20/2016, 03:07 PM
NNnnnnnope. See the mantle where it's getting cloudy and the black is slightly fading to grey? They all do that between the 3-5 year mark. It'll most likely keep getting lighter. If you have pictures from 2 years ago I wouldn't be surprised if the mantle was much more vivid
Actually it looks better and better. But I'll keep an eye out for whatever you're talking about. ;)

There was definitely never any black in this clam.

MondoBongo
08/15/2017, 08:23 AM
NNnnnnnope. See the mantle where it's getting cloudy and the black is slightly fading to grey? They all do that between the 3-5 year mark. It'll most likely keep getting lighter. If you have pictures from 2 years ago I wouldn't be surprised if the mantle was much more vivid

hey just wanted to come bump this and let you know that my crocea is still doing awesome!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1K0FQzczbIjOl2FMJsW_viZtejd2Tu7Of3KzITqSaox7ZdaqX389U_eLJ7frrkpIWHshktaPOUzn-a47x_h47oVLJ1kLJifu1us5p3Q9ns46N_u_GJ3bkJZKAOpFClJDH3VU0UVxBugewmGmgEL-x3dqjyfAXVOswoC6DSn9CJhqN1wsjtUt9u5AlCTJ0qDYMATKOPZ2QTJ1bE-zRha18YpAGKPzfY-XIHrEZHCx-iyvHJtgenpGEq5y25unbEtz4pnFtZk_wrzAVlIlPLuzBPkcV50-I0LmIgpcxu5OKiLBHXK012_5p_ESoBwQzNffRuFi17SFmRT3upPf6A8yy2N3ccselbRk3S-kUP9y_KXHGyxwdT0eiDkY7no8Rc4wj8D11hX8Ek-UtdruCUrQEJiqirIRm8c_N6wp7sR-0qZiPsMWVo6D-8W0Rcyjx7VAevjeZBBHjrDO5dlYbBjn21cTmhtZLmvUiRqpEEOswCdiae1ptixAW4k1yw1GJUVTkEt-a_RBcSpNPq2vZllKiSthbofqjo6Jll30K4pOZNus--sravLs8O11RTvGTC8AZbxOUaugsWVs8G3Xki3u0N_kQM3ypFbyFjV4BvRLOW-UwA=w1285-h964-no

carrots
08/15/2017, 01:13 PM
Great to hear it is still going strong.

manfrog
08/28/2017, 09:59 PM
hey just wanted to come bump this and let you know that my crocea is still doing awesome!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1K0FQzczbIjOl2FMJsW_viZtejd2Tu7Of3KzITqSaox7ZdaqX389U_eLJ7frrkpIWHshktaPOUzn-a47x_h47oVLJ1kLJifu1us5p3Q9ns46N_u_GJ3bkJZKAOpFClJDH3VU0UVxBugewmGmgEL-x3dqjyfAXVOswoC6DSn9CJhqN1wsjtUt9u5AlCTJ0qDYMATKOPZ2QTJ1bE-zRha18YpAGKPzfY-XIHrEZHCx-iyvHJtgenpGEq5y25unbEtz4pnFtZk_wrzAVlIlPLuzBPkcV50-I0LmIgpcxu5OKiLBHXK012_5p_ESoBwQzNffRuFi17SFmRT3upPf6A8yy2N3ccselbRk3S-kUP9y_KXHGyxwdT0eiDkY7no8Rc4wj8D11hX8Ek-UtdruCUrQEJiqirIRm8c_N6wp7sR-0qZiPsMWVo6D-8W0Rcyjx7VAevjeZBBHjrDO5dlYbBjn21cTmhtZLmvUiRqpEEOswCdiae1ptixAW4k1yw1GJUVTkEt-a_RBcSpNPq2vZllKiSthbofqjo6Jll30K4pOZNus--sravLs8O11RTvGTC8AZbxOUaugsWVs8G3Xki3u0N_kQM3ypFbyFjV4BvRLOW-UwA=w1285-h964-no

Nice old clam!
How big has it managed to get?

Wazzel
08/29/2017, 07:09 AM
All three of mine in one top down shot.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Other-2/120-build/i-MqcqtzZ/0/23635e34/L/IMG_1245-L.jpg

MondoBongo
08/29/2017, 12:19 PM
Nice old clam!
How big has it managed to get?

he's what i assume is about max size for a crocea, about 6" length.

he is quite heavy though. i picked him up the other day to while i was cleaning and was shocked how heavy he's gotten.

my derasa started off small enough to fit in the palm of my hand, now it's almost football sized, and still growing.