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Socalx45
10/06/2016, 06:59 PM
Well I have moved these two all around in my tank. So far it seems like they do best towards the top of the tank. My water parameters are all where they need to be except for Alk it's at 6.2 and I am slowly raising it. I have 2 acan prism 600 for lights. Anything anyone can see right off the back that could help? http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161006/9f997138163fee681f67070bf7ecf1d1.jpg
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garygonzales
10/06/2016, 07:22 PM
alk is too low.......also ......your lights look really brite...dont look like you have any blues

A. Grandis
10/06/2016, 10:39 PM
Lights can look different than they really are just because of the camera that took the picture, so... I can't say there is too much or too little blue. The light of the picture looks fine to me. Too much blue is unnecessary. Too little blue is not good either. The balance needs to be there...
The polyps are ok. No need to worry. With LEDs it's almost impossible to fine the tune of light for the whole tank to look great...
You're doing fine raising the alk slowly is the best way...

Grandis.

garygonzales
10/07/2016, 06:29 PM
he was saying color is off....i was just saying that blue light would make the colors pop more and maybe the whites are too brite ....is there a way to adjust the whites and blues...

Socalx45
10/07/2016, 10:32 PM
I adjusted the whites...turned them down a bit. We will see if the color comes back a little

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A. Grandis
10/07/2016, 10:51 PM
The color of the polyps themselves aren't that fluorescent.
The fluorescence is shown because of the reflection of the blue lights.
I think that's what garygonzales meant.

I see the main thing keeping zoas is their health, not only their colors.
They health comes part from quality lights over the tank, as we know.
If the lights aren't the best for the zoas, they won't be able to show their glorious look for long time.

I think for LEDs they are doing fine for now, by that picture.
I don't know how they'll look in the long run though...

The colony on the top of the picture should be isolated on their own rock resting on the bottom of the tank. They will take over that rock if you leave them there!!

Grandis.

blasterman789
10/08/2016, 10:20 PM
Health is great. Can tell by the under growth density and skirts. Those are olive-green implosion palys on the right. They don't have much color anyways, and IMO are a nuisance once they start start growing.

Raising alk to 7-8 where it should be will help with the color abit. Otherwise, the main issue is your lights are really white - closer to 10k. These pictures you see of zoanthids with crazy glowing colors looking like they came from Avatar are the results of having a lot of royal blue turned up with your LED's or 18-20k lights. If you look at a tank of zoas running nothing but white (5000-6000k lights) they all look pretty brown and boring. I just attended a big coral swap, and every frag tank of zoas was running nothing but royal to bring out really fake colors and it drove me nuts asking the sellers to constantly adjust their lights to something more normal.

A. Grandis
10/08/2016, 10:49 PM
Health is great. Can tell by the under growth density and skirts. Those are olive-green implosion palys on the right. They don't have much color anyways, and IMO are a nuisance once they start start growing.

Raising alk to 7-8 where it should be will help with the color abit. Otherwise, the main issue is your lights are really white - closer to 10k. These pictures you see of zoanthids with crazy glowing colors looking like they came from Avatar are the results of having a lot of royal blue turned up with your LED's or 18-20k lights. If you look at a tank of zoas running nothing but white (5000-6000k lights) they all look pretty brown and boring. I just attended a big coral swap, and every frag tank of zoas was running nothing but royal to bring out really fake colors and it drove me nuts asking the sellers to constantly adjust their lights to something more normal.

Unfortunately that's the way many vendors do. Because of that many newbies are leaving their tanks with the blues on the whole day thinking that should be the normal.

Grandis.

Socalx45
10/09/2016, 12:55 PM
Thanks for the info. So those polyps can over run a tank? Should I take them out?

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A. Grandis
10/09/2016, 01:18 PM
No, no need take them out. I would remove them from that rock and place them on their own little rock or plug resting on the sand. That way they won't overgrow other colonies. I'm talking about the 7 polyps, first picture.

Grandis.

Socalx45
10/09/2016, 02:58 PM
Ok I will. I already moved the other ones down to the sand bed next to their own rock

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M.R Cowfish
10/14/2016, 01:31 PM
Unfortunately that's the way many vendors do. Because of that many newbies are leaving their tanks with the blues on the whole day thinking that should be the normal.

Grandis.
I run my 3 kessils on %100 blue and %100 intensity looks like I'm a newb . After 14 years I thought I could have advanced out of being a newb , guess not .

A. Grandis
10/15/2016, 02:37 AM
I run my 3 kessils on %100 blue and %100 intensity looks like I'm a newb . After 14 years I thought I could have advanced out of being a newb , guess not .

I'm glad you know you are actually going backwards doing that to the tank, specially with LEDs.
Or you are one of those trying to teach the newbies the wrong way you imagine to sell fluorescent pigments?

Please try look any polyp in nature and learn the best spectrum from where they grow.
:hmm4:

Grandis.

M.R Cowfish
10/16/2016, 01:40 AM
I'm glad you know you are actually going backwards doing that to the tank, specially with LEDs.
Or you are one of those trying to teach the newbies the wrong way you imagine to sell fluorescent pigments?

Please try look any polyp in nature and learn the best spectrum from where they grow.
:hmm4:

Grandis.



I'm also using t5 bulbs with the 3 kessils I have a great idea of what colors of corals look like . Between the t5's and the kessil's I have achieved a spectrum I really enjoy looking at . During the main lighting period my tank looks like a normal reef the t5 bulb combo mixes great with the kessils at %100 blue , then at night when I turn my lights down the tank has a nice glow to look at for a couple hours and enjoy the florescence of the corals . If the coral fluoresces under the led is that not part of the true color of the coral ? I mean you are not actually adding anything to the coral to get the color its part of the coral so why not accent it ? .I'm not out to sell fags of saturated corals , also not out to try and "teach newbies" to use a specific type of lighting. I mean the hobby is based on personal enjoyment , well at least for me it is . So if my corals are doing great , they grow , I love the look of my tank , where along the line did I start moving backwards for running my led's at %100 blue ? :facepalm:

A. Grandis
10/16/2016, 04:19 AM
I'm also using t5 bulbs with the 3 kessils I have a great idea of what colors of corals look like . Between the t5's and the kessil's I have achieved a spectrum I really enjoy looking at . During the main lighting period my tank looks like a normal reef the t5 bulb combo mixes great with the kessils at %100 blue , then at night when I turn my lights down the tank has a nice glow to look at for a couple hours and enjoy the florescence of the corals . If the coral fluoresces under the led is that not part of the true color of the coral ? I mean you are not actually adding anything to the coral to get the color its part of the coral so why not accent it ? .I'm not out to sell fags of saturated corals , also not out to try and "teach newbies" to use a specific type of lighting. I mean the hobby is based on personal enjoyment , well at least for me it is . So if my corals are doing great , they grow , I love the look of my tank , where along the line did I start moving backwards for running my led's at %100 blue ? :facepalm:
Sorry, from your other post, I understood you were running only 100% blues the whole day.

Grandis.