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Stylo328
10/28/2016, 05:30 AM
Good morning all. Thanks in advance for reading this incredibly long first post! I'd like to use this thread to document our upgrade from a 187-gallon SPS dominated reef to a 405-gallon Reef Savvy tank. My current tank has a build thread on this site in the Large Tank section, but I have not been faithful with updates over the past few years.

The current tank is 60"x30"x24" in 3/4" starfire glass and was a custom build, believed to be built by Oceanic. I purchased the tank used several years ago. I built the stand for the tank fairly tall at 41.25". The setup is bare bottom and consists of a Vectra L1 return pump, two MP60s, an ATB Small skimmer, ATI 8-bulb 48" fixture with a Reefbrite XHO blue strip, Avast marine K2 Kalk stirrer and a Bubble Magus doser. This tank has had its ups and downs, but has been relatively stable recently, with good color and growth.

To support the tank an R/O unit is installed in the garage and plumbed to the tank's location through the attic and walls. We also have a 300-gallon tank in the garage plumbed to a Blueline pump, which also runs through the attic and walls to the tank's location, used for bi-weekly water changes. There is also a drain that runs under the foundation of the house, out to the yard, that facilitates the draining of the tank.

Last year we did some renovation of our home with the plan to upgrade to a large peninsula tank. Several design choices were made to that end. Recently though an opportunity arose to purchase a local reef that included a Reef Savvy tank with the dimensions we wanted. The only downside is the traditional orientation versus our planned peninsula. After taping out both options, the wife and I agreed that this setup might work out even better. We quickly moved to purchase and the tank is now sitting empty in our living room.

The new tank measures 120"x30"x28" with a pair of ghost overflows. It is constructed of 3/4" low iron glass. The tank is in exceptional condition with no scratches, and in true Reef savvy form, amazing silicone work. The current stand is being modified to a height of 43.5" and is being re-finished in white acrylic laminate to match our kitchen cabinets. The canopy will be refinished in the same manner.

We have already acquired all of the equipment which will be used for this build, either as part of the tank package or through subsequent purchases. The tank will be plumbed with two Vectra L1 pumps, to four returns. Each end will have an MP60qd along with an MP40qd, with an MP40qd on the back wall in the center. The skimmer is a Vertex Alpha 250 and supplementation will come via an MTC pro-cal calcium reactor connected to a Carbon Doser electronic Co2 regulator.

The entire system will be controlled via a classic apex along with an Ecotech Reef link. Lighting will consist of a pair of Giesemann 2x48" t5 retro fixtures, followed by a 60" and a 48" ATI 8-bulb t5 fixture, each with a corresponding Reefbrite xho blue strip. There should be plenty of light with the 20 t5 bulbs, totaling a whopping 1056" of t5 lighting and 108" of Reefbrite XHO strip.

I look forward to sharing in this journey with you.

AJ



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Ocean Mang
10/28/2016, 06:16 AM
Nice! Tagging along, excited to see the build!


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Stylo328
10/28/2016, 06:30 AM
Nice! Tagging along, excited to see the build!


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Thanks! Happy to have you.


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Stylo328
10/28/2016, 06:33 AM
Here are a few photos of the platform I built Saturday to attach beneath the current stand. Once mounted, the entire stand will be wrapped in white acrylic laminate. All doors will be replaced with panels, attached with magnets, allowing for better access to the sump and equipment.

I considered having a steel stand welded and then having that wrapped, but opted to repurpose what I have instead. Glued and screwed, platform is constructed of 2"x10" boards. Should be plenty sturdy.

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Thanks for looking and don't mind the mess in the garage. All of the tank "stuff" has the whole garage out of sorts.




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rovster
10/28/2016, 06:47 AM
Woohoo!!!!

Stylo328
10/28/2016, 09:06 AM
Woohoo!!!!



Thanks bud!


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brians4671
10/28/2016, 11:29 AM
That baby is impact resistant nice!

Stylo328
10/28/2016, 02:35 PM
That baby is impact resistant nice!



Thanks. It weighs a ton...


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AquamanE
10/28/2016, 04:06 PM
Following along also. Is that pice suppose to elevate the stand?

Stylo328
10/28/2016, 05:12 PM
Following along also. Is that pice suppose to elevate the stand?



Thanks for joining.

Yes, that piece will elevate the stand, and then the entire thing will be wrapped in white acrylic laminate.


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Rogger Castells
10/28/2016, 11:45 PM
Nice look forward to seeing your build, Congratulations

Narzyzz12
10/29/2016, 07:46 AM
Tagging along for the ride.Sounds like it's gonna be an epic build.

Stylo328
10/29/2016, 04:40 PM
Nice look forward to seeing your build, Congratulations


Thanks Rogger!

Tagging along for the ride.Sounds like it's gonna be an epic build.


Thank you very much.

Nice to have you both along for the ride.


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McGee10
10/30/2016, 08:16 AM
Wow, that a big tank! Tagging along.

Stylo328
10/30/2016, 08:40 AM
Wow, that a big tank! Tagging along.



Thanks for joining. I have to admit, the size is a bit intimidating. Our largest tank to date is the current 187. Here's praying it all works out...


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Stylo328
10/30/2016, 05:52 PM
Had the opportunity to work on the tank after church. First order of business was to remove the fans and the Giesenann retro fixtures from the canopy. The cabinet guy is picking it up on Tuesday to re-skin.

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From there, moved to cleaning out the sump and the inside of the stand, along with removing all of the stand doors. I am pleased with the access I will have with the new magnetic panels. Happy not to have any doors in the way.

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Here are some close ups of the sump. It is a Synergy Reef Systems custom sump (no top brace, not sure why). Dimensions are 70x20x16 with a total capacity of around 97 gallons.

This is where the ghost overflows enter the sump, followed by a shelf for filter floss, and then the refugium.

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Next is the skimmer chamber.

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And finally the return section with R/O float valve. Note all of the industrial Velcro that was SO DIFFICULT to remove!

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A few closeup of those classy Synergy touches...

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And finally the clean product with all Velcro removed.

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Plan is to try and get the stand mounted on the platform this week while the canopy is being skinned so that the cabinet guy can skin the stand next week and then plumbing can begin.

Thanks for checking in.





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McGee10
10/31/2016, 05:26 AM
Looks great

Stylo328
10/31/2016, 05:42 AM
Looks great



Thank you!


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Ocean Mang
10/31/2016, 06:22 AM
Wow, Nice weekend accomplishments!!!


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Stylo328
10/31/2016, 07:25 AM
Wow, Nice weekend accomplishments!!!


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Thanks. Happy with the progress, but I must confess that I've procrastinated a bit because I am uncharacteristically intimidated by the size of the tank.


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Stylo328
11/01/2016, 08:05 PM
A little bummed today. Tuesday came and went and the cabinet guy was a no-show. He called late in the afternoon to reschedule for tomorrow. I hope this isn't an indication that he will be delayed with the work itself...

I am having second thoughts on the white acrylic laminate and so is my wife. She is thinking navy blue and I am thinking light grey. The white would match perfectly with our new kitchen, but with a potential move in the not-to-distant future, she is concerned with how the white might look in a new home with more traditional fixtures and finishes.

This is the kitchen we are matching in this house.

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This is the laminate that will be used.

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The nice thing about this laminate is that there is no brown or other base color in the corners. It truly is acrylic with a white backing. It can be buffed and polished like any other acrylic, and the edges are color-matched pvc, making the install very clean and finished.

This material is also available in Ferrari red or black, neither of which would match our decor.

I'm open to suggestions on using traditional laminate in other colors, or pressing on with the white acrylic.

Thanks in advance.


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Stylo328
11/02/2016, 06:12 PM
Today was a good day!

The cabinet guy came over to pick up the canopy as well as the platform. He took all of the requisite measurements and expects to be ready to mount and wrap the stand as early as Saturday. We chose to go with white after all. This is equal parts exciting and unnerving. I really hope it turns out well. (Fingers crossed).

Here is what the platform looked like in front of the tank. It's about a 1/4" taller than the dollies the tank is resting on. I like the overall height!

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Hopefully I will be posting pictures of the finished stand and canopy soon.


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Stylo328
11/06/2016, 05:19 PM
Good evening.

I currently have 1/2" of white styrofoam under the sump. I don't like the way it looks or the quality of the original install. I am considering replacing it with 1/4" recycled tire matting. Actually, thinking of ordering this one:

Rubber Cal Recycled Floor Mat, Black, 1/4-Inch x 4 x 3-Feet [url=https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001V7JBRO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_De8hyb4QFDY65]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001V7JBRO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_De8hyb4QFDY65

Was hoping to get your thoughts as I can only find a few references for its use under a tank or stand online. Primary purpose is for vibration dampening and noise reduction as the stand floor is flat.

Thanks in advance.



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jonnyu
11/06/2016, 08:20 PM
I would use neoprene . BRS sells it and come in black.
Very sharp looking tank.


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Stylo328
11/06/2016, 09:30 PM
I would use neoprene . BRS sells it and come in black.
Very sharp looking tank.


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Thanks for the advice and the compliment.


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Stylo328
11/07/2016, 07:23 PM
Went ahead and ordered a high density closed cell neoprene pad in 1/2" thickness for under the sump. Thanks again.


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Stylo328
11/08/2016, 06:58 PM
Quick question. Any thoughts on tightening 2" bulkheads? I've got six to install between the ghost overflows and the sump. The nut is ~ 3.5" and fixed wrenches in that size range are a few hundred dollars on amazon. Not a purchase I would like to make.

Thanks in advance.


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dadummy
11/08/2016, 07:52 PM
nice tank man, enjoy the build, going to be awesome,

why not use a big pair of channel locks on the bulkheads, put a rag on the nut so you don't mar them up

Stylo328
11/08/2016, 09:52 PM
nice tank man, enjoy the build, going to be awesome,

why not use a big pair of channel locks on the bulkheads, put a rag on the nut so you don't mar them up



Thanks for the kind words; we are having a lot of fun with the build.

Thanks for the advice on the channel locks as well.


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dgasmd
11/09/2016, 07:03 PM
Looking good. I would favor the brown laminate sort of like the floors.

Stylo328
11/09/2016, 07:37 PM
Looking good. I would favor the brown laminate sort of like the floors.



Thanks bud. The white is going to look pretty [emoji6]

Cabinet guy called today, said base will be delivered Friday morning. Should be getting the stand mounted on Saturday. Fingers crossed. This thing is HEAVY!


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Stylo328
11/11/2016, 09:22 PM
Found the perfect bulkhead solution.

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Thanks for the advice.


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Stylo328
11/12/2016, 08:01 AM
With some help from some friends we got the tank mounted on the platform yesterday. It was harder than I thought. One guy almost got his fingers crushed and another guy really hurt his toe. This reeftank thing is dangerous. ☠️

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Tools for the job.

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Some additional slider added. Probably a few too many, but whatever...

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A couple of action shots. This was at the end making some adjustments and my gluing the two together.

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The 6" spax screws I used to reinforce the adhesive.

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And the finished product.

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The Hayward ball and true union ball valves arrived this week. Looking forward to starting the plumbing as soon as the laminate is done.

Thanks for checking in.


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rovster
11/12/2016, 12:08 PM
Is that foos table a Tornado?

Stylo328
11/12/2016, 01:34 PM
Is that foos table a Tornado?



It's unbranded. I went online to see what the tornado looks like, and this isn't one.


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rovster
11/12/2016, 03:01 PM
Lol Tornado FTW! Build looks great:thumbsup:

Stylo328
11/12/2016, 03:20 PM
Lol Tornado FTW! Build looks great:thumbsup:



Thanks bud. Really looking forward to getting water in there!

My 12-year-old son beats me at Foosball every time we play. Lol


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Stylo328
11/12/2016, 08:59 PM
Today was dedicated to prepping the inside of the stand for two coats of Kilz 2 followed by a topcoat of (yet to be determined).

First step was suspending the sump as it cannot be removed from the stand. Used a pair of ratchet straps and up it went.

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Back needed some attention as there was still some industrial Velcro, some zip tie tabs and a bunch of salt creep to remove. As you will see from the pic, the PO had a leak at one of the bulkheads on the ghost overflow. I noted when tearing down the tank that it was loose.

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I used two orbital sanders and sandpaper ranging from 80 to 120 grit. Should be ready for the first coat of Kilz 2 tomorrow.

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Thanks for checking in.


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McGee10
11/13/2016, 07:13 AM
My son loves the camp straps. LOL It is amazing how much more difficult tickets when you get into the bigger tanks and how much more you have to think ahead. Looking awesome

Stylo328
11/13/2016, 05:25 PM
Thanks. We camp a lot so the camo kinda fits with the trips [emoji6]

And I'd have to agree, everything takes so much more thought! I hadn't anticipated this being so complex.


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fasteddie222
11/13/2016, 06:55 PM
Wow what a tank!!!!!! Definitely following this build

Stylo328
11/13/2016, 07:34 PM
Wow what a tank!!!!!! Definitely following this build



Thank you for following along!


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Stylo328
11/13/2016, 07:42 PM
We were able to get the inside of the stand painted today using appliance epoxy paint. It seemed to adhere well and is drying very smooth. We got two coats on and will do a little touching up after 24 hours of cure.

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Thanks for looking.


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Stylo328
11/17/2016, 06:37 PM
Today was the day!!!

After several incremental improvements, we finally have some palpable progress. Today the team from the cabinet shop came in and re-wrapped the stand. They bought with them the new doors and the redone canopy. Here are a few photos of the finished stand.

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If you recall, the stand had six doors, which have been replaced with three removable panels.

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I am very pleased with how it turned out. The only item pending should be resolved tomorrow, which is the two side skirts for the rear, to cover the view of the ghost overflows from the side.

I also received the 1/2" closed cell neoprene for under the sump. That should get cut to size and photographed tomorrow as well.

Hopefully I can get the plumbing done before Thanksgiving. I took most of next week off, which should help...

Thanks!


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rovster
11/17/2016, 07:13 PM
:inlove::inlove::inlove::celeb1:

McGee10
11/17/2016, 08:28 PM
Wow looks great!!!

Stylo328
11/17/2016, 08:35 PM
Wow looks great!!!


Thank you very much.

:inlove::inlove::inlove::celeb1:


I'm loving it too. Thanks.



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brians4671
11/18/2016, 05:11 AM
Wow your stand came out perfect very nice

rovster
11/18/2016, 05:42 AM
I have to say I really love the stand. Kudos to you Armando for thinking outside the box. I would never have even thought of that !

Stylo328
11/18/2016, 08:41 AM
I have to say I really love the stand. Kudos to you Armando for thinking outside the box. I would never have even thought of that !


Thanks Danny. It was a bit of a gamble, especially building the base myself, but it paid off. The carpenter was happy with my build, which increased my confidence in it long-term. Now we pray it holds up [emoji15]lol

Wow your stand came out perfect very nice


Thank you very much!


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Stylo328
11/18/2016, 08:42 AM
Stayed home today and started working on the plumbing. Was able to get both of the phantom overflows installed, nice and tight.

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Hopefully I'll have another update later today.


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Stylo328
11/18/2016, 03:31 PM
Had the final touches of the stand installed today. These panels extend beyond the end of the tank to cover the overflow boxes from the sides. The cabinet guy and I went over several options and settled on this one. I am especially pleased with the panel on the rear that bridges the gap between the stand and canopy along the side of the tank.

We installed one side today, but it has to be removed before repositioning the tank. Snapped a few photos before pulling it off.

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And the side view.

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I'm pretty happy with how it turned out.


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Stylo328
11/19/2016, 07:25 PM
Progress!

Got to spend some time working on the tank with my wife today. We made some decent progress.

Started the day by cleaning the skimmer, including a vinegar bath and full teardown.

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And the final result - not bad...

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Also was able to mock up the calcium reactor and the overflow plumbing.

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Was able to plumb the intake for both of the Vectra L1s.

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Also installed the pair of 48" Geisemann reto T5 fixtures.

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And here is the result of today's efforts.

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Hope you enjoyed the update. Feel free to share any thoughts or suggestions.




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Stylo328
11/22/2016, 04:03 PM
Quick update and request for help.

Update:

Spent some time installing the fans today. Was not sold on the previous configuration so I added two new 4 1/2" holes to optimize airflow. The outer two fans are forcing fresh air in and the fans near the center are extracting. I also rewired all of the fans. This represents a few hours of work, which doesn't seem like much but...

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Request for help:

I mocked up the overflow plumbing today. This is pretty close to what the final layout will be, unless you have thoughts in how it can be improved. The lines with blue tape are the emergency drains which will be plumbed to be loud. The green line denotes where the flex pvc will go.

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I'm really looking forward to your thoughts.

Stylo328
11/22/2016, 08:51 PM
Want to give a huge thanks to Locito277 who came over and with another friend and my nephew, we lifted this beast off of the 2x10s it was positioned on for the laminate work. Our eldest son had the nerve wrecking job of getting the boards out without getting his hands crushed. He showed a ton of poise for a 12-year-old. To say that the four of us struggled to lift it would be an understatement, but we got it done. We were able to spin the tank as well. All that remains is to plumb it, move the 187, and slide this one into place.

Hope is to have water in it over the next week or so. Good times...


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Adamc1303
11/23/2016, 07:24 AM
Great build thread! That stand come out very nice!

saf1
11/23/2016, 08:17 AM
Nice looking setup, good job.

You probably already know this but if you haven't already done so I'd highly recommend you securing that CO2 bottle. Either by chain, bungee, or placing in a plastic milk container crate/square to prevent tipping. You wouldn't want Murphy paying you a visit. I witnessed one on base a few years back when someone in our medical department called to say they had one tip, snap off the valve, and it went through our cinder brick wall and into a car door.

Stylo328
11/23/2016, 08:38 AM
Nice looking setup, good job.

You probably already know this but if you haven't already done so I'd highly recommend you securing that CO2 bottle. Either by chain, bungee, or placing in a plastic milk container crate/square to prevent tipping. You wouldn't want Murphy paying you a visit. I witnessed one on base a few years back when someone in our medical department called to say they had one tip, snap off the valve, and it went through our cinder brick wall and into a car door.


That's great advice, thank you. I hadn't thought of that. I may have a solution. I'll post up a picture later to see what you think.

Great build thread! That stand come out very nice!


Thank you very much!


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Stylo328
11/23/2016, 11:40 AM
Nice looking setup, good job.

You probably already know this but if you haven't already done so I'd highly recommend you securing that CO2 bottle. Either by chain, bungee, or placing in a plastic milk container crate/square to prevent tipping. You wouldn't want Murphy paying you a visit. I witnessed one on base a few years back when someone in our medical department called to say they had one tip, snap off the valve, and it went through our cinder brick wall and into a car door.



I'm thinking of installing one of these inside the stand and using a long zip tie to secure the CO2 tank in place. Let me know what you think.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161123/26d97037caf6cc36d9b01e0430a259e1.jpg

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Thanks!


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saf1
11/23/2016, 01:12 PM
Should be good. Main thing to watch for is tipping. I'm in California so more prone to earthquakes I think then your location. Accidently bumping is probably all you have to manage. So that would be fine.

Also, apologize if I was out of place or line. Everything is looking great btw.

calbert0
11/23/2016, 01:20 PM
Found the perfect bulkhead solution.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161112/6e5d6f15142cb58693bddab471c07f6c.jpg

Thanks for the advice.


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I was going to say... Oil Filter Wrench!

Stylo328
11/23/2016, 01:29 PM
Should be good. Main thing to watch for is tipping. I'm in California so more prone to earthquakes I think then your location. Accidently bumping is probably all you have to manage. So that would be fine.

Also, apologize if I was out of place or line. Everything is looking great btw.



Please, no need to apologize. This is exactly why I have the thread. Our collective knowledge is powerful. Thank you for the contribution to the thread and the build. I hope you stay with us!

Thanks for the kind words and Happy Thanksgiving.


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dave.m
11/23/2016, 04:07 PM
That black thingy on the strap around the CO2 tank is supposed to be screwed into the wall or cabinet.

Dave.M

Stylo328
11/23/2016, 07:36 PM
That black thingy on the strap around the CO2 tank is supposed to be screwed into the wall or cabinet.

Dave.M



Thanks. I was just illustrating the fit in the photo. It is going to be mounted just in front of the calcium reactor.




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Stylo328
11/23/2016, 07:42 PM
Finally got all the overflow plumbing finished today. I made some changes from the previous design and I am pleased with how it turned out. As always though, suggestions are welcomed and encouraged [emoji6]

On to the pics... the lines with blue tape are the emergency overflows. And the lines running across the rear of the tank have a slope as denoted by the two photos with the levels.

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worm5406
11/24/2016, 10:04 PM
Looking good so far. Nice upgrade.

ddanis60
11/25/2016, 05:50 AM
I love how clean all your work is. So precise well thought out. Can't wait to see what this continues to become. Getting close being ready for water!

The only small thing I can think to add would be to swap the fuge and the skimmer section, if size allows and the second chamber has enough depth.. just so you're not skimming all the pods before returning to the display.

Stylo328
11/25/2016, 08:35 AM
Looking good so far. Nice upgrade.



Thanks bud! And thanks for all of your contributions to the 187 thread. It's great to have you here as well.


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Stylo328
11/25/2016, 08:37 AM
I love how clean all your work is. So precise well thought out. Can't wait to see what this continues to become. Getting close being ready for water!

The only small thing I can think to add would be to swap the fuge and the skimmer section, if size allows and the second chamber has enough depth.. just so you're not skimming all the pods before returning to the display.



Thank you very much. That's a great suggestion. Let me take a look at the measurements and see if I can swap the skimmer and fuge. I'm also considering a chaeto reactor instead of the fuge.


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scubadan206
11/26/2016, 08:03 PM
Great upgrade. Is there any reason you put the gate valves for the full syphon where you did VS under the overflows? I guess they're easier to reach there....
Can we have a picture of the old tank on this thread?

Daniel. :cool:

Stylo328
11/26/2016, 09:19 PM
Great upgrade. Is there any reason you put the gate valves for the full syphon where you did VS under the overflows? I guess they're easier to reach there....

Can we have a picture of the old tank on this thread?



Daniel. :cool:



Thanks Daniel. We have a Bean Animal set up on our current tank and I've had occasion where I needed to make some small adjustments. This location for the gate valves made it easier to get to them. I've also read that tuning-in dual ghost overflows can be a little tricky. I figured I'd make it as easy as possible on myself.

Here is a quick video and a few photos of the current tank.

https://vimeo.com/193209579

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dgasmd
11/27/2016, 04:30 PM
Everything looks really good. You'll love the large removable panels, hopefully as much as I loved them in my old tank.

Very impressed with the laminate. Looks really clean and should be very easy to clean and keep looking new. The only, in retrospect, contribution I would have had originally is to make the canopy taller. You can always lower the lights if you don't need them high, but you'll never make that canopy get taller if you ever decide to add some MH there. I know you don't want to, but I just hate burning bridges myself.

Can't wait to see everything moved over and running. And of course, get my new tank LOL.....

Stylo328
11/27/2016, 05:57 PM
Everything looks really good. You'll love the large removable panels, hopefully as much as I loved them in my old tank.

Very impressed with the laminate. Looks really clean and should be very easy to clean and keep looking new. The only, in retrospect, contribution I would have had originally is to make the canopy taller. You can always lower the lights if you don't need them high, but you'll never make that canopy get taller if you ever decide to add some MH there. I know you don't want to, but I just hate burning bridges myself.

Can't wait to see everything moved over and running. And of course, get my new tank LOL.....



Thanks bud. In retrospect your right, I should have increased the height of the canopy. Alas, that ship has long sailed.

Trying to get your tank available for you to pick up before Christmas!


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Stylo328
11/27/2016, 06:35 PM
Finally got the plumbing all wrapped up today. The only things missing are the six 3/4" loc-line returns, which should arrive later this week.

I ended up re plumbing the entire system and kept only the first 20" of existing plumbing out of the ghost overflows from the previous setup. I am optimistic that the drains will perform well and support the flow from the two Vectra L1s

The returns were plumbed starting with new 2" bulkheads in the sump and a pair of 2" Hayward true union gate valves. From the L1s, there another pair of Hayward true union valves, these are 1 1/2". All plumbing was accomplished with hard pipe, schedule 40.

One L1 (front) feeds the three 3/4" loc-line returns on the right side of the tank. I took the 1 1/2" line as far as I could before reducing to 1 1/4", right up to the 3/4" loc-line fitting. I tried to limit the 90s, but at the end, had to wrap over the rear brace of the tank.

The second L1 (rear) feeds a 1 1/2" line that runs along the rear of the stand, to a "T" reducing to 1" that feeds a manifold with three 1" Hayward ball valves, each with a 1/2" John Guest fitting, to feed the GFO, Carbon, and any other reactor, as needed. Beyond the "T" is a 1 1/2" gate valve to help force water through the reactor manifold. Finally ending in three 3/4" loc-line returns to match the right.

Overall I am pleased with how it turned out. I plan to leak test with tap water tomorrow. If all goes well I may be able to fill with Saltwater and begin cycling by next weekend. Fingers crossed!

A few pics.

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Hope you enjoyed the update!



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dgasmd
11/27/2016, 07:04 PM
Fantastic work on the plumbing. Pad yourself in the back. Job well done so far!


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biecacka
11/27/2016, 09:18 PM
On your return line, do you have a valve or something to help direct flow out of both outlets?

Corey

Stylo328
11/28/2016, 06:15 PM
On your return line, do you have a valve or something to help direct flow out of both outlets?

Corey

Each side (3 outlets) is connected to a Vectra L1. The only gate valve on the return is below the three returns to drive water to the manifold, if needed.

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Fantastic work on the plumbing. Pad yourself in the back. Job well done so far!


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Thanks bud. We're getting there!


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Stylo328
11/28/2016, 06:17 PM
Today the loc-line arrived and I was able to finish the last of the plumbing!

Lined up and ready:

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Time to start filling the tank!

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Here we are, half way done.

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Update soon with leak test results.


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worm5406
11/28/2016, 06:18 PM
I do see water.. Very nice update indeed.

Is that pump supposed to be connected?? or is that capped off?

biecacka
11/28/2016, 06:22 PM
How will each outlet provide ample flow sine the water will take the path of last resistance?

Corey

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Stylo328
11/28/2016, 09:03 PM
I do see water.. Very nice update indeed.

Is that pump supposed to be connected?? or is that capped off?



Thanks. It is capped for now as I've only got one of the L1s plumbed. The other is currently running on the 187. I'll swap the plumbed pump to the other return for the other half of the leak test tomorrow.


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Stylo328
11/28/2016, 09:08 PM
How will each outlet provide ample flow sine the water will take the path of last resistance?

Corey

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Since they are all reduced to 3/4" loc-line, the flow will equal out (for the most part) across the three returns from each pump. With two MP60s and three MP40s on the tank, I'm not really relying on the return pumps for flow.


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Stylo328
11/28/2016, 09:21 PM
Success! Leak test went pretty well. Had to tighten one bulkhead on a phantom overflow, but otherwise dry. Had only one of the L1s plumbed as the other is still on the 187. Will swap the L1 to the other return tomorrow to finish the leak test.

Tank was quieter than I expected. Need to raise the water level in the ghost overflow as I don't like the fact that I can see the waterline under the canopy. Also need to raise the water level in the sump to silence the system altogether.

Here are a few photos. Note the waterline.

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And a quick video for "sound effect".

https://vimeo.com/193482000

Thanks for checking in.




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worm5406
11/28/2016, 09:26 PM
Very nice update. Glad only one blukhead needed work.

A second pump, or higher pressure, might increase that water to where you want it too.

Stylo328
11/28/2016, 10:12 PM
A second pump, or higher pressure, might increase that water to where you want it too.


I hadn't thought of that. Now I'm torn. If I don't raise the level in the overflow and the second pump doesn't resolve it, then I'm stuck with the lower level as it will be hard to access the overflow boxes once the tank is in place.

Conversely if I do raise the intakes in the overflow and the second pump increases it further, I could end up with a real issue when I put the second pump on. Same issue with access to the overflow applies.

Unfortunately I will not be able to add the second pump until I tear down the 187 and swap all rock and corals over to this tank.



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Achilles Torben
11/28/2016, 11:28 PM
Very clean plumbing! Thumbsup
Great set up

Gre Torben

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Stylo328
11/29/2016, 05:40 AM
Very clean plumbing! Thumbsup
Great set up

Gre Torben

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Vielen Dank

I think that translates to thank you [emoji16]
In case it doesn't, thank you very much!


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worm5406
11/29/2016, 06:51 AM
I hadn't thought of that. Now I'm torn. If I don't raise the level in the overflow and the second pump doesn't resolve it, then I'm stuck with the lower level as it will be hard to access the overflow boxes once the tank is in place.

Conversely if I do raise the intakes in the overflow and the second pump increases it further, I could end up with a real issue when I put the second pump on. Same issue with access to the overflow applies.

Unfortunately I will not be able to add the second pump until I tear down the 187 and swap all rock and corals over to this tank.


IMO place the bottom of the weir at the bottom edge of the visible edge of the trim. Naturally water will create a small buffer zone and then enter the weir. As the flow increases it will raise on the weir and in turn raise the edge around the lip of the tank and be above the visible edge.

Achilles Torben
11/29/2016, 07:32 AM
Vielen Dank

I think that translates to thank you [emoji16]
In case it doesn't, thank you very much!


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It seems that everybody in US is able to talking german! Great :)

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Stylo328
11/29/2016, 08:38 AM
IMO place the bottom of the weir at the bottom edge of the visible edge of the trim. Naturally water will create a small buffer zone and then enter the weir. As the flow increases it will raise on the weir and in turn raise the edge around the lip of the tank and be above the visible edge.



Thanks for the advice. I'll tinker with it a bit today and see how it works out. I'll post an update with the outcome.


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ADVRESOURCE
11/29/2016, 09:31 AM
Or, trim around the canopy. What will you be putting in your system? Fish only? LPS? Softies? or SPS? For lower flow rates through the sump, you won't want to add another pump. Lower water flow increases efficiency of your skimmer. Additional flow for SPS can be accomplished with power heads, like they GYRE or MP40's, inside your tank.

Your plumbing skills are excellent! I'd hate to mess with that work of art.

Stylo328
11/29/2016, 07:33 PM
Or, trim around the canopy. What will you be putting in your system? Fish only? LPS? Softies? or SPS? For lower flow rates through the sump, you won't want to add another pump. Lower water flow increases efficiency of your skimmer. Additional flow for SPS can be accomplished with power heads, like they GYRE or MP40's, inside your tank.

Your plumbing skills are excellent! I'd hate to mess with that work of art.



Thanks for the kind words on the plumbing.

I bit the bullet and ordered another Vectra L1 today. Now I'll have three. One can serve as a back up. This way I can plumb both pumps while the tank is in its current location and mess with flow rates to see if the water level rises.

I also went ahead and raised the height of the drains inside the ghost overflows which raised the water level in the tank about 1/4 of an inch. Still not enough to get it under the canopy but it's definitely better. Let's see how we do once the new pump arrives.

Tank will have three MP40s and a pair of MP60s for flow.


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Stylo328
11/30/2016, 07:10 PM
Thanks for the suggestions on raising the water level. Here is a quick update. I raised the drains inside the ghost overflow, which raised the water level a bit.

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I still have at lease an inch that can be raised without risk of overflow for the tank, but then capacity for the sump comes in to question...

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I'm hoping the addition of the second L1 (pending from UPS) will correct that last bit of visible water line.


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scubadan206
12/01/2016, 04:48 AM
When I built my overflow the water was too low as well. I rolled up some epoxy and squished it into the teeth.
It raised the water level almost an inch. Putting a sheet of acrylic or something against the inside of the teeth would work as well. Epoxy is permanent, but covering the teeth with something else would be more adjustable.

Stylo328
12/01/2016, 07:55 PM
When I built my overflow the water was too low as well. I rolled up some epoxy and squished it into the teeth.

It raised the water level almost an inch. Putting a sheet of acrylic or something against the inside of the teeth would work as well. Epoxy is permanent, but covering the teeth with something else would be more adjustable.



That actually gives me a great idea. Let me fiddle with it a bit and see if it works. Thank you!


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Gatorfan
12/02/2016, 08:41 AM
Is it just the pictures, or is the water level higher in the back of the tank than the front?

Stylo328
12/02/2016, 10:18 AM
Is it just the pictures, or is the water level higher in the back of the tank than the front?



It's just the photo. I checked with a level and the tank is square. This is in the temporary spot. Hoping to achieve the same in the final location.


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Justin330
12/02/2016, 12:59 PM
Very nice build. Great job on the plumbing. Tagging along to see further progress

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Stylo328
12/02/2016, 04:33 PM
Very nice build. Great job on the plumbing. Tagging along to see further progress

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Thank you very much. Great having you along.


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Stylo328
12/02/2016, 04:36 PM
Tiny update today, but one I'm oddly excited about nevertheless. I ordered these brackets for the two BRS Jumbo reactors. These will allow me to mount them high along the rear of the stand and make good use of the manifold! Of course, the brackets didn't come with screws, but a quick Hone Depot run remedied that. Not sure if I am going to run the GFO and Carbon in parallel or not, but it's nice to have the option.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161202/4375a07ec412c0226e1e0b1e5c4fb741.jpg

Hoping for a much better update tomorrow!


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garrettm
12/02/2016, 11:08 PM
Tiny update today, but one I'm oddly excited about nevertheless. I ordered these brackets for the two BRS Jumbo reactors. These will allow me to mount them high along the rear of the stand and make good use of the manifold! Of course, the brackets didn't come with screws, but a quick Hone Depot run remedied that. Not sure if I am going to run the GFO and Carbon in parallel or not, but it's nice to have the option.

Hoping for a much better update tomorrow!

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Gotta love the Home Depot! Great looking build. Did I miss how you are plumbing in the reactors??

Following!

Stylo328
12/03/2016, 08:14 PM
Gotta love the Home Depot! Great looking build. Did I miss how you are plumbing in the reactors??



Following!



Thanks for joining.

I plumbed the reactors today using the manifold I made last week. I have them running in sequence for the moment. It's nice to have two additional outlets from the manifold available.

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I also installed the first pair of MP40QDs on the rear. Will try to make some more progress tomorrow. We are getting very close.


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garrettm
12/04/2016, 09:28 AM
Looking Great!

klipprand
12/04/2016, 12:31 PM
Can't find where I read it, but as I understand it, you should run the carbon prior to the GFO and your GFO should last longer.

Stylo328
12/04/2016, 07:07 PM
Can't find where I read it, but as I understand it, you should run the carbon prior to the GFO and your GFO should last longer.


According to The BRS video for their dual reactor, they recommend running GFO first. I don't really know though as I've never run GFO.

Looking Great!



Thank you very much!


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Stylo328
12/04/2016, 08:52 PM
Spent quite a few hours tinkering with the tank today. First thing I addressed was the side curtains to cover the overflows. The cabinet guy had installed them with screws and brackets. While effective, once they were mounted and the tank slid in place, we would not have access to the rear. I designed an alternate mounting method using magnets and an L bracket. It looks just like it did and both sides are completely removable.

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Very pleased with how it turned out.

Also spent some time installing the Apex components, including the head unit, PM2, WXM (will use Reeflink instead), Auto Leak Detector, and finally, mounted the MP40 and Vectra controllers. Mounted the power adaptors and all three of the EB8s. Even installed the auto fish feeder.

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Hardest part was crawling through the attic to run the Ethernet lines from the modem to behind the tank. The Apex and the Reeflink will both be hard wired to the modem.

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A ton of work, but a ton of fun!

Here is the rear of the tank when I called it quits for the day. Still have a ton of wire management to do. Of note, the MP40 in the center is hung from those zip-ties so that I can remove it from above if the need arises in the future.

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worm5406
12/04/2016, 09:14 PM
I took a small 4 port hub and put it near the tank. Wired back to the wireless hub/router. That way I can always add more. After I had it running for a while I added a webcam and plugged it straight to it too.

Sometimes cables can get messy. That way I only have to replace 6 foot cables instead of trying to run new cat5/6.

Looking good!

LJC6780
12/04/2016, 10:13 PM
Great tank! Totally jealous. Looking forward to the final outcome!


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Stylo328
12/05/2016, 05:46 AM
I took a small 4 port hub and put it near the tank. Wired back to the wireless hub/router. That way I can always add more. After I had it running for a while I added a webcam and plugged it straight to it too.

Sometimes cables can get messy. That way I only have to replace 6 foot cables instead of trying to run new cat5/6.

Looking good!



That's a great idea. Thanks. I had never thought of adding a webcam!


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Stylo328
12/05/2016, 05:47 AM
Great tank! Totally jealous. Looking forward to the final outcome!


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Thank you very much!


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worm5406
12/05/2016, 06:30 AM
That's a great idea. Thanks. I had never thought of adding a webcam!

There are quite a vew good ones. I got a PTZ (pan tilt zoom) at a higher price range. My build thread has it listed. Right now it is looking at the 180 / 120 / sump. When I get the 265 added it will have a lot to look at. (But if I make the new fish room like I want I might have to get a second one. )

The HUB though has really saved quite a bit. I can plug a laptop into it and configure sitting right at the tank compared to going to a device or back to the computer in the other room.

dgasmd
12/05/2016, 03:06 PM
Simply outstanding

Stylo328
12/06/2016, 01:57 AM
There are quite a vew good ones. I got a PTZ (pan tilt zoom) at a higher price range. My build thread has it listed. Right now it is looking at the 180 / 120 / sump. When I get the 265 added it will have a lot to look at. (But if I make the new fish room like I want I might have to get a second one. )



The HUB though has really saved quite a bit. I can plug a laptop into it and configure sitting right at the tank compared to going to a device or back to the computer in the other room.


I'll definitely look into that. Thanks.

Simply outstanding


Thanks bud! Start getting ready, were almost there!


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Chopper65
12/06/2016, 03:46 AM
Looks great, have been following along, you are way more organized than I am lol

Stylo328
12/06/2016, 08:30 PM
Looks great, have been following along, you are way more organized than I am lol



Thanks. I appreciate you following and the compliment.


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this is me
12/07/2016, 08:30 AM
Very nice plumbing! Wow, I can't imagine how many tries and how many trips to the hardware store that I would have to make in order to complete that job!

Stylo328
12/09/2016, 05:42 AM
Very nice plumbing! Wow, I can't imagine how many tries and how many trips to the hardware store that I would have to make in order to complete that job!



Thanks! It was quite a bit of trial and error. I can say that I am happy to own a miter saw and to be a few miles from HD. Must have been at least five trips.


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Stylo328
12/09/2016, 05:50 AM
Good morning. A few updates. The second L1 arrived and is plumbed in. I have to do some tweaking to the bean animal in the ghost overflows. With both pumps, I cannot run them over 40% without some challenges. I'm thinking it's the second "open" drain that needs some work. Thank God for the emergency drains!

I found a few scratches on the front panel and on one side. A local tank builder is coming to polish the glass today. I've seen his work and am optimistic. I pray it turns out well.

Was thinking, and please chime in, with three MP40s on the back wall and the two L1s, do I really need to install the MP60s on the sides? I have them, but the tank looks so clean without them. I guess I could always add them later. But that would require modifying the rear skirts.

I'll post some pics of the "polishing" later. Have a great day all.


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worm5406
12/09/2016, 07:44 AM
A second pump, or higher pressure, might increase that water to where you want it too.


I hadn't thought of that. Now I'm torn. If I don't raise the level in the overflow and the second pump doesn't resolve it, then I'm stuck with the lower level as it will be hard to access the overflow boxes once the tank is in place.

Conversely if I do raise the intakes in the overflow and the second pump increases it further, I could end up with a real issue when I put the second pump on. Same issue with access to the overflow applies.

Unfortunately I will not be able to add the second pump until I tear down the 187 and swap all rock and corals over to this tank.


SO... With the second pump how does the levels look??

Raising that lip is not affecting the Ghost overflows is it? Drop them back down maybe?

I agree on tuning the primary drains and getting that siphon set exactly correct.

McGee10
12/09/2016, 07:49 AM
Very nice job, as far as the MP 60s it all depends upon what you are putting in as far as corals, if you're going SPS you will definitely need them.

Stylo328
12/09/2016, 07:47 PM
SO... With the second pump how does the levels look??



Raising that lip is not affecting the Ghost overflows is it? Drop them back down maybe?



I agree on tuning the primary drains and getting that siphon set exactly correct.



Second pump definitely raised the level. I had a hard time with the overflows though, so had to throttle the pumps back to 40%. Today I re-did the bean animal and am hoping for better results. I'll let you know when we fill the tank this week. I gave up on raising the lip in the overflows by the way.


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Stylo328
12/09/2016, 07:49 PM
Very nice job, as far as the MP 60s it all depends upon what you are putting in as far as corals, if you're going SPS you will definitely need them.



Thanks! It's going to be a mixed reef, but there should be plenty of SPS in there. With the removable side curtains, I should be able to add the MP60s later if need be. I'll just have to modify the curtains to allow for the cords.


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Stylo328
12/09/2016, 09:09 PM
Today saw plenty of tank activity. Pedro (vividclearglass.com) arrived at 10:30 to polish out several scratches that I discovered on the front and side panes. I was surprised to find how much the MP40s the previous owner had on the side panes had marred the glass.

To prepare I drained all the freshwater last night, relying on the shop vac to collect what the siphon left behind. By the time Pedro arrived, the tank was dry and ready.

Here are a few photos of the scratches (difficult to capture) and the polishing process.

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And the final product, scratch free!

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The polishing process does create some distortion when viewed at an extreme angle, but the absence of the scratches is well worth it!

I have to recognize Pedro. He quoted me a price based on a two-hour job. When he arrived and evaluated the tank, he identified far more scratches than my wife and I had found. He was here working for over seven hours and the final price was consistent with the quote. A great guy and his attention to detail was incredible!


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worm5406
12/09/2016, 10:41 PM
Nice job. That looks so much better!

McGee10
12/11/2016, 04:16 PM
What size is the CO2 bottle looks small, is it a 5# bottle?

Stylo328
12/11/2016, 06:57 PM
Nice job. That looks so much better!

Thanks. I'm really happy with how it turned out.

What size is the CO2 bottle looks small, is it a 5# bottle?


It is a 5# bottle. I actually have two of them as well as a 20#. I plan on filling both 5# tanks so I can always keep a full spare.




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Stylo328
12/11/2016, 07:30 PM
Happy Sunday.

Huge update although the pictures may not show it. Yesterday saw us installing all of the Apex modules, the Reeflink, and the Tunze ATO (using it to control the solenoid for the RO feed line along with a float valve for redundancy). I spent a lot of time wiring to keep things as clean as possible. I'm not entirely finished with wire management, I'll upload some photos once done.

The more important update is that the 187 has been moved! It all started on Friday when I took the light mounts off of the wall and had the texture guy come and repair the holes left behind. Then yesterday a few friends came to help get the move done. We drained the 187 down, leaving about four inches of water in it. Then we SLOWLY inched it along to its new resting spot about eight feet away. It was nerve wrecking as we left all of the rocks and corals in place. It was hard labor, but we were successful with zero issues! Not even an accidental frag. I had 200 gallons of NSW circulating in the garage and used almost all of it to refill the tank.

Here are a few photos from the move.

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At this point, I got behind the 405 and painted the drywall repair from the previous day and connected the Apex and Reeflink to the network. My wife and I then slid the 405 into place (Have to give props to my wife. Sliding that beast was no joke...). Then I sat down and started programming the Apex via Fusion. I was at it till almost two a.m. Lol

This is how we are looking today with the 405 in its new home.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161212/6b1444d6a9a48c6c9c5be4873fb0d8b3.jpg

And the 187, doing just fine after an almost 100% water change.

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biecacka
12/11/2016, 08:00 PM
Is that 187 right in front of the window?
405 looks great by he way.

Corey

Stylo328
12/11/2016, 08:23 PM
Is that 187 right in front of the window?
405 looks great by he way.

Corey



It is, temporarily. I plan on moving the rock and corals over next week and moving the fish to QT. Hopefully the 187 will be out of the living room by Christmas.

Thanks for the complement. We are really happy with how it looks so far.


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worm5406
12/12/2016, 06:57 AM
Now talk about a quiet weekend.

Good work. I am really wanting to see this when it is all the way up. I am enjoying the updates and it shows you have put a lot of preplanning into it.

Keep it up.

serenity
12/12/2016, 09:43 AM
How much room did you leave behind the tank? I am thinking if you ever had to mess with the MP's how would you get to them?

Looks amazing BTW!

Ricardo18
12/12/2016, 04:04 PM
[QUOTE=Stylo328;24848565]According to The BRS video for their dual reactor, they recommend running GFO first. I don't really know though as I've never run GFO.





You should not run the 2 reactors in sequence, because the Carbon will run wide open, BUT you will have to throttle down the GFO reactor.If you are in sequence, one will effect the other.Run them separately off the manifold.

Stylo328
12/12/2016, 06:45 PM
Now talk about a quiet weekend.

Good work. I am really wanting to see this when it is all the way up. I am enjoying the updates and it shows you have put a lot of preplanning into it.

Keep it up.


Thanks for the kind words. Really trying to squeeze everything I've learned over the years into this build. Hopefully pics with corals will be up in the next week or so.

How much room did you leave behind the tank? I am thinking if you ever had to mess with the MP's how would you get to them?

Looks amazing BTW!


Thanks! Great question. There's about 8" behind the tank. Here is a photo with the side curtain removed (loving the magnets).

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161213/0d494541cc49b2f64b6af8ecbc4df245.jpg

According to The BRS video for their dual reactor, they recommend running GFO first. I don't really know though as I've never run GFO.



You should not run the 2 reactors in sequence, because the Carbon will run wide open, BUT you will have to throttle down the GFO reactor.If you are in sequence, one will effect the other.Run them separately off the manifold.


I think you are right. I am going to change it up and run them on separate feeds. Thanks!


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Stylo328
12/12/2016, 06:52 PM
Took my first stab at a portion of he aquascape. These are two of the three rocks that will be added to the existing rock in the 187. I am looking for a nice open feel to the scape.

Don't mind the fish food in the pic. I was testing the automatic feeder and forgot I had filled it. Lol

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worm5406
12/12/2016, 07:52 PM
Well the rock looks fed at least. You might need a CUC to clean that up.

:)

iced98lx
12/12/2016, 08:44 PM
Looking very nice. I appreciate the attention to detail and excellent planning! Look forward to seeing it wet.

Stylo328
12/13/2016, 07:13 AM
Looking very nice. I appreciate the attention to detail and excellent planning! Look forward to seeing it wet.


Thank you very much. Hopefully it will be wet by the weekend.

Well the rock looks fed at least. You might need a CUC to clean that up.

:)


CUC = me with a vacuum. Lol



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Stylo328
12/15/2016, 07:50 PM
Almost ready for water!!!

Spent a few hours working on the tank yesterday. Here is what we got accomplished:

Installed both Reefbrite strips in the canopy.

Relocated the Giesemann Razor T5 Retro kits to make room for the Reefbrites.

Installed the Tunze ATO and Tunze solenoid valve.

Wire managed the rear of the canopy so that it can be easily removed, keeping all wiring with it.

Wire managed the inside and rear of the stand.

Finished programming the Apex.

Here are a few photos.

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Should be filled with NSW tomorrow evening and all rock and corals transferred over Saturday.

Thanks for checking in.


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McGee10
12/15/2016, 10:36 PM
Awesome!!!!

Stylo328
12/16/2016, 03:11 AM
Awesome!!!!



Thanks!


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McPuff
12/16/2016, 07:39 AM
That's a pretty huge tank. Looks good so far. Interested to see the transfer.

Stylo328
12/17/2016, 12:51 PM
That's a pretty huge tank. Looks good so far. Interested to see the transfer.



Thank you very much. Hopefully today or tomorrow!


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Stylo328
12/17/2016, 01:05 PM
The good:

We are wet! Yesterday Rick from VIP came over and filled the tank. It's good to be at this point. It took FOREVER to get the overflows and returns tuned. I am running the returns at ~70% and the tank is dead silent. Happy with the amount of flow in there for now. Here are a few pics.

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Better view of how the Reefbrites are mounted.

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Half way there!

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Skimmer working right off the back. Gotta love NSW...

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And the tank running.

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The bad:

Woke up this morning to find the ceiling in the stand wet. Looked all over and found a leaking bulkhead on the ghost overflow. It had a steady drip and must have been leaking all night. I slid the canopy forward, undid the return plumbing on that side and fixed it. No leak after an hour. I cannot see water leaking from anywhere else. I hope that was it.


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Ricardo18
12/17/2016, 04:49 PM
I'm in Delray and also have a Reef Savvy system.
I suggest you install some exhaust fans in your bottom cabinet and tie them to an outside vent (maybe "T" the vent into a bathroom exhaust line) Your electronics will fail if the humidity gets too high in the cabinet.

Stylo328
12/18/2016, 07:15 AM
I'm in Delray and also have a Reef Savvy system.

I suggest you install some exhaust fans in your bottom cabinet and tie them to an outside vent (maybe "T" the vent into a bathroom exhaust line) Your electronics will fail if the humidity gets too high in the cabinet.



Thanks for the suggestion. I have an A/C closet directly behind the stand and should be able to pull it off. I'll look into it.

Do you have a build thread? Would love to read up on your system.


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Stylo328
12/18/2016, 07:27 AM
Thankfully we went all day yesterday without any further leaks and the inside of the stand is noticeably dryer, which gives me some confidence that the leak I addressed was the only one.

Yesterday was dedicated to finishing the install of the lights in the canopy. I tried to install the fixtures on drawer tracks, but that was an epic fail. Fell back to my plan B which relies on SS wall anchors and SS s-hooks. This should work well and allow the flexibility to remove and replace bulbs in the future if needed. Here are a few pics.

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I also spent some time at Faulkner Plastics yesterday (they are great people) and had 3/8" black starboard cut to cover the external portion of the ghost overflow, replacing the thin acrylic covers. I also had a piece of 3/8" cut for a platform under the calcium reactor and CO2 tank as it was marring the stand's painted finish. Finally, I had 3/4" black starboard cut to fit the bottom of the aquarium.

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Hopefully we will have the transfer of rock and coral completed today!


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Ricardo18
12/18/2016, 07:59 AM
Thanks for the suggestion. I have an A/C closet directly behind the stand and should be able to pull it off. I'll look into it.

Do you have a build thread? Would love to read up on your system.


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http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2534858

dgasmd
12/18/2016, 08:11 AM
Savage and baller all in one!! Can't wait to come see it all running in full glory, so I can sit back and critic the hell out of it. And I can tell you that you sucked at doing this and that LOL........ We all love that, and I am super good at it LOL......

Looking forward to putting that other tank to work. Leaning towards a butterfly and softies tank, but unsure at this point.

Stylo328
12/19/2016, 01:39 PM
Savage and baller all in one!! Can't wait to come see it all running in full glory, so I can sit back and critic the hell out of it. And I can tell you that you sucked at doing this and that LOL........ We all love that, and I am super good at it LOL......

Looking forward to putting that other tank to work. Leaning towards a butterfly and softies tank, but unsure at this point.



Thanks bud. Looking forward to your seeing it when you pick up your new tank!


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Stylo328
12/19/2016, 02:04 PM
Well, it finally happened. The transfer is complete!

Before you flame me about the fish, let me qualify that the mystery wrasse and sailfish blenny both wedged themselves in boulders and my only options were to move them in to the new tank or kill them in the process of getting them out of the respective holes. I tried everything, including setting the rock on a table out of water to see if they would wiggle out, to no avail. Once they had made it in the tank, the whole fallow bit went out the window. (As of last night both fish were out swimming and eating).

Yesterday morning started with the four kids performing in the church's rendition of the live nativity. It was beautiful, and I took the opportunity to pray hard for the day's events to follow.

As soon as we got home, I immediately went to work on getting the starboard in place, which was not easy given how buoyant it is. I had to coordinate getting it in place and then have my wife or son hold it down with a piece of PVC while I placed a large enough rock on it.

Once the starboard was in, I started placing the new "dead" rock, which I had cooked in muriatic acid, in the tank. The first island to the left and a few other pieces are new rock additions. They will be easy to identify as they are very white... I then started moving over established rock and corals. As you read above, two fish had made the move unexpectedly, so I caught and acclimated the rest of the fish. I also chiseled off the orange galaxia from its residency on one of the largest rocks. It was killing everything around it. I was able to get it off in one piece (sand a few Frags) and it now resides on the floor, where it can be happy without harming its neighbors. Same goes for the space invader pectina.

When all was said and done, we had made the complete move, including emptying the 187 and moving it to the garage by 11:00pm. I had several accidental frags, which I gave to a friend along with the two bubble tip anemones.

I'm happy with how the aquascape turned out and am glad to have made it to this point. I'm sure there will be quite abbot of fine tuning over the coming days/weeks, but overall the tank is as expected. I cannot say enough about how supportive my wife and kids were yesterday and leading up to this point.

Here is a closeup of how the ATI's are mounted.

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This configuration allows for plenty of airflow for the ATI fans.

And a couple of shots during the move.

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And the finished product:

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It's hard to make out the aquascape from the photos, but I am very pleased with how it worked out. I'll upload some better photos over the coming days as the water clears up.



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dgasmd
12/19/2016, 02:26 PM
Very nice!!

LJC6780
12/19/2016, 02:51 PM
This is absolutely ridiculous! So meticulous in all the details! I love it! I'm in the process of setting up my first large tank and it's just a 75 plus sump. I hope I can be as clean with the details as you have been! This is a great thread!


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Stylo328
12/19/2016, 08:29 PM
This is absolutely ridiculous! So meticulous in all the details! I love it! I'm in the process of setting up my first large tank and it's just a 75 plus sump. I hope I can be as clean with the details as you have been! This is a great thread!


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Very nice!!



Thank you both very much. I appreciate the kind words and support. It's been a great journey.


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Stylo328
12/19/2016, 08:37 PM
Not a bad first day. Many of the zoas are closed, but otherwise things look pretty good. I was able to connect the Reeflink today and program the schedule for the three MP40s on the rear. I am going to keep this configuration for a while and add the MP60s on the sides as the tank fills in.

Here are a few close up pictures of the aquascape from left to right.

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And a panoramic... let's see how this works on Tapatalk.

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Tank is running a bit warmer than expected at 81-82. I am going to open a vent into the A/C closet and likely add a 4-inch exhaust fan from the canopy up into the attic. I need to give it some thought over the next few days.


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worm5406
12/19/2016, 08:42 PM
I would not add the exhaust fan into the attic. Just my 2 cents. Possible major humidity hit.

I would take an outlet and put a fan on it. Aim it at the water in your sump. Set the programming to: if temp > 80 then ON.

Or something like that depending on your controller.

Stylo328
12/19/2016, 08:46 PM
I would not add the exhaust fan into the attic. Just my 2 cents. Possible major humidity hit.

I would take an outlet and put a fan on it. Aim it at the water in your sump. Set the programming to: if temp > 80 then ON.

Or something like that depending on your controller.



What if I exhaust it to a bathroom exhaust with a dedicated exhaust fan?


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worm5406
12/19/2016, 08:50 PM
That way it is vented outside as needed instead of insulation or wood. Much better. My exhaust fans vent outside, for my bathroom.

The air movement directed on the tank assists with cooling just like our own skin. So you do not need a large box fan, just a small 12" computer fan or one of those clip ons.

Do it as a test. Take a fan and direct it toward the water in the sump. Watch your temp.

In the summer here sometimes my AC has a rough time. I take a fan and place it on a 5 gal bucket and aim it toward my sump area and it cools pretty nice. I have watched the graph and it actually made the heaters cut on at double the rate.

JonezNReef
12/19/2016, 08:59 PM
I have a exhaust fan in my fish room to help with temp and humidity. I have dedicated ducting running through the attic directly to the outside. Definitely don't have it exhaust into your attic itself or you risk getting mold. Also I don't know if tieing it into the bathrooms ducting would be good because when the fan in the bathrooms off part of the tanks humidity and temp could flow into your bathroom instead of outside. Just my $.02

Also your tank is looking awesome. Been fun watching your build, very clean and well thought out

Stylo328
12/19/2016, 09:06 PM
That way it is vented outside as needed instead of insulation or wood. Much better. My exhaust fans vent outside, for my bathroom.

The air movement directed on the tank assists with cooling just like our own skin. So you do not need a large box fan, just a small 12" computer fan or one of those clip ons.

Do it as a test. Take a fan and direct it toward the water in the sump. Watch your temp.

In the summer here sometimes my AC has a rough time. I take a fan and place it on a 5 gal bucket and aim it toward my sump area and it cools pretty nice. I have watched the graph and it actually made the heaters cut on at double the rate.



I have four fans running on the canopy and they didn't help much today, and they are loud. I'll try a fan on the sump later this week. Thanks.


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Stylo328
12/19/2016, 09:13 PM
I have a exhaust fan in my fish room to help with temp and humidity. I have dedicated ducting running through the attic directly to the outside. Definitely don't have it exhaust into your attic itself or you risk getting mold. Also I don't know if tieing it into the bathrooms ducting would be good because when the fan in the bathrooms off part of the tanks humidity and temp could flow into your bathroom instead of outside. Just my $.02

Also your tank is looking awesome. Been fun watching your build, very clean and well thought out



Good point on multi-purposing the bathroom vent. After some research, I'll likely run a dedicated vent to one of the soffit vents and use this inline fan, mounted in the attic.

Panasonic FV-30NLF1 WhisperLine 340 CFM In-Line Fan, 6-Inch Duct https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001AHSDQU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_46kwybKP5YG4Q

Hopefully that will correct the issue.

Thanks for the kind words. I've really enjoyed the build process.


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dgasmd
12/21/2016, 08:39 AM
I second what was said above. I wouldn't be ducting anywhere. I suspect all the electronics under the tank also generate a fair amount of heat, so putting a fan there moving air aimed at the sump and in an angle such that it allows the air under the tank to be blown to the outside (inside the house). Your ac should have no issue getting rid of the humidity generated so long as it is inside the house and it is not ridiculous amounts.

jonnyu
12/21/2016, 10:15 PM
Wow tank looks amazing. Are you putting some furniture in the room to relax and watch the tank


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Stylo328
12/22/2016, 05:06 AM
I second what was said above. I wouldn't be ducting anywhere. I suspect all the electronics under the tank also generate a fair amount of heat, so putting a fan there moving air aimed at the sump and in an angle such that it allows the air under the tank to be blown to the outside (inside the house). Your ac should have no issue getting rid of the humidity generated so long as it is inside the house and it is not ridiculous amounts.



Thanks for the advice. Right now I've got the front doors removed on the stand and the tank is reaching a daytime high of roughly 82. The overnight low is just over 80. I'm still weighing options and will likely address it during the week between Christmas and New Years while I'm off from work.

Stylo328
12/22/2016, 05:10 AM
Wow tank looks amazing. Are you putting some furniture in the room to relax and watch the tank


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Thank you very much! We're trying to decide what to do with that room now. It used to house the foosball table but that has since been relocated. The space is a little awkward. A pool table would be awesome but the risk for the tank is too great.


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McGee10
12/22/2016, 07:14 AM
Thanks for the advice. Right now I've got the front doors removed on the stand and the tank is reaching a daytime high of roughly 82. The overnight low is just over 80. I'm still weighing options and will likely address it during the week between Christmas and New Years while I'm off from work.

I Love what you have done! Thanks for sharing!
You may want to check the temp calibration, My Apex was off by over 2 degrees.

worm5406
12/22/2016, 08:12 AM
Where are the heaters/vents in comparison to your tank?

Do you have a spare temp probe?

Place it outside the tank in the ambiant air, if you have a spare. See if it is that warm outside the tank.

On my tank I can see when the AC cuts on in the summer.

jonnyu
12/23/2016, 01:37 PM
Thank you very much! We're trying to decide what to do with that room now. It used to house the foosball table but that has since been relocated. The space is a little awkward. A pool table would be awesome but the risk for the tank is too great.


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I say build a nice bar. You have a lot of options with that space.


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Stylo328
12/24/2016, 03:02 PM
I say build a nice bar. You have a lot of options with that space.


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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give that some thought and see what the boss says [emoji6]

I Love what you have done! Thanks for sharing!

You may want to check the temp calibration, My Apex was off by over 2 degrees.

Thank you very much! I really appreciate the kind words. I am going to go ahead and order a pair of thermometers to calibrate the Apex. Appreciate the suggestion.

Where are the heaters/vents in comparison to your tank?

Do you have a spare temp probe?

Place it outside the tank in the ambiant air, if you have a spare. See if it is that warm outside the tank.

On my tank I can see when the AC cuts on in the summer.


I just added a spare temp probe to the canopy to control the fans. Still thinking my best option is to open a vent between the back of the stand and the intake to the A/C closet. That should really help.



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Stylo328
12/27/2016, 10:50 PM
Time for a long overdue update.

There's been a lot of tweaking going on over the past couple of weeks. For starters I installed a pair of polished aluminum shelves to organize food in the stand. They were ordered via Amazon and are of much higher quality than I had expected for the price. They installed easily and now all the food is up off the floor and organized on the shelves.

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I also added a temperature probe inside the canopy to control the fans. This has been much more efficient than relying on the water temperature to turn the fans on and off.

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We cleaned out all the media in the calcium reactor, installed the starboard underneath it, had the CO2 tanks filled and plumbed it all in.

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In order to help with the microbubble issue, I relocated the skimmer to the left chamber of the sump. This along with additional tuning of the drains and adding a few additional filter pads has really improve the situation.

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Also added carbon and started running one of the BRS jumbo reactors. I had to remove the second one in order to relocate the skimmer and will reinstall that for GFO over the next couple of days.

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I also added a magnetic Frag rack to the back wall with wrasse caves. I don't have a photo, but it looks pretty natural given the placement.

Finally, we added a few fish to the tank today. A pair of Onyx Picasso clowns, a Japanese four-line wrasse, two reinfordi gobies, and a labouti fairy wrasse.



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worm5406
12/28/2016, 12:15 AM
Nice update. Thanks for sharing.

dgasmd
12/28/2016, 08:49 AM
Are you planning on filling that middle sump chamber with anything like rubble Rick for pods or chaeto?

Stylo328
12/28/2016, 10:12 AM
Are you planning on filling that middle sump chamber with anything like rubble Rick for pods or chaeto?


I haven't decided yet. May make it a display for non reef-safe fish. Or if nothing else, a refugium. We'll see...

Nice update. Thanks for sharing.



Thanks.


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Stylo328
12/29/2016, 05:24 PM
I hate micro bubbles!!!! I am losing the battle and the war!

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As you can hopefully see from the photos, they are everywhere! I relocated the skimmer, tuned the drains, set the Vectra's low, then high, then somewhere in the middle, then a combination thereof. I have added filter floss to the baffles along with three layers of pond filter media and still the tank is filled with the bubbles.

I have undone and redone the true union ball valves, applied silicone to the PVC joints and still the bubbles persist. I am at a complete loss of what else to do. Living with them is not an option.

Add to that, I had an issue with the reeflink where the lights on the unit turned white and red and it stopped working. A quick phone call to ecotech and they walked me through reformatting the SD card and it seems to be working again. I had to disconnect two of the MP40s and reconnect them in order for the schedule to take.

This week the tank had caught me every step, still no regrets. Although I do miss how well tuned he 187 was. It was on complete auto pilot.

On a more positive note, all of the fish that were recently added seem to be doing well and everyone is feeding on hikari brine infused with metroplex and focus along with PE mysis (a few fish had whit stringy stools).

If you have any suggestions on the microbubbles, I am all ears.




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Stylo328
12/29/2016, 06:55 PM
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worm5406
12/29/2016, 11:44 PM
Can you take a video of the return pump intake. Lets see what is getting into it. I hate micro bubbles too.

mike810
12/30/2016, 01:49 AM
Are you using two MP60s and one MP40 on the rear panel for flow in the tank? How is the flow and do you feel like you need more like on the side panels?

I'm starting a 8x3x2 and was planning to put four MP40s on the rear along with two tunzes 6255.

Stylo328
01/10/2017, 07:12 AM
It's been a while since my last update and there are a few changes to note.

For starters, in an attempt to address the microbubble situation, I redid all of the intake plumbing for both Vectras. I took the pumps apart to check the impellers for any debris and to make sure that the o-rings were properly seated. I also removed several layers of the Matala pond filter pads, lowering the water level in the sump and increasing the effectiveness and efficiency of the bubble traps. I also swapped the Vectras and plumbing from one return to the other to isolate if it is a pump issue. While not 100% gone, the bubbles are 90% better. And the ones that remain continue to come from the right side of the tank. I will take another crack at finding the air leak this weekend.

After manually dosing for a few weeks, I finally got the MTC ProCal up and running with the aquarium plants.com CarbonDoser. I chose to use reborn in the main chamber and ARM in the second chamber. I have the CarbonDoser set to 6 psi with 6 seconds between bubbles. I've been testing alk twice daily and it is holding constant. I tried adding a second PH probe to the Apex, but that was a fail. As soon as I plug the second probe in the second port, the main port goes out of whack. I'm going to give Neptune a call as I was unable to find a remedy online. Worst case scenario I will add a PM1.

Speaking of PH; with a full house, wife, kids, dogs, etc... PH has been ranging from 7.7 at night to a high of 8.1 during the day. Having had good results with kalk on the 187, I added a PM Nielsen reactor online with the ATO. Just got it plumbed last night.

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I'm optimistic this will help. Also looking to add a refugium to the same end. I am evaluating lighting options now to maximize growth while keeping heat down. May end up going with a Kessil purple light, but also considering the radion fresh water version. Happy to hear your thoughts.

Here are a few pictures of the aquascape for the fuge.

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I've added a few fish since he last update. Two rainfordi gobies, a pair of onyx Picasso clowns, a labouti fairy wrasse, blue sided fairy wrasse, Japanese four line wrasse, and a rosy scaled fairy wrasse. All are eating and I have seen no sign of disease. I had to trap and remove the four line as he was an absolute terror, attacking the rosy scale and mystery wrasse ceaselessly. He is now in the sump, pending return to the LFS.

Here are a few random photos, including one of the clowns who have chosen the orange galaxea as their host.

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Stylo328
01/10/2017, 07:17 AM
Rest of the pictures. Sorry for the quality as they were taken with the iPhone.

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Thanks for checking in.


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worm5406
01/10/2017, 07:44 AM
Even though you used an iPhone, wont hold it against you, very good update.

I have enjoyed following this thread. I have a micro-bubbles problem to. I am getting ready to put in 2 Vectra L1 and maybe that will fix it.

Stylo328
01/10/2017, 08:20 AM
Even though you used an iPhone, wont hold it against you, very good update.

I have enjoyed following this thread. I have a micro-bubbles problem to. I am getting ready to put in 2 Vectra L1 and maybe that will fix it.



Thank you very much for being part of the thread and your contributions. I will tell you that I have been impressed with the L1s and how powerful they are. With both pumps on and three MP40qd's in night mode at a constant 20%, that EB8 is drawing under 1 amp. And at peak with all pumps, it maxes out under 2 amps.

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worm5406
01/10/2017, 08:40 AM
I am so glad to see that I am not the only one that looks at the amps and see how things are running over days or weeks. After I replaced on of my DC12000 with another one I saw that it was having issues and was drawing a lot of amps.

I look/watch trends in pH and other items too. You can see a trend when you look at a month's worth of data.

I use this too: https://www.reeftronics.net/wn/worm5406/apex-history

If you look at that link around Dec 15 you will see that my temp went flat line for a bit. That was when my heater died. Under amp3 you can see the AMP draw dropped off too.

Look at Amp 5 and see around 12/15 when I replaced that DC12000 that was not working for my skimmer. Once replaced the overall draw went to a better amp draw.

Stylo328
01/10/2017, 08:16 PM
That is very interesting. Thanks for pointing me to Reeftronics. I just used their program tool to write the OSC code for my kalk reactor.


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worm5406
01/10/2017, 10:32 PM
You are welcome! We all get pointers from each other.

Show your code, will ya.

Stylo328
01/25/2017, 08:49 PM
Hello my RC friends. Quite a few things to update. My apologies for the gap in posts.

For starters, my buddy Locito gave me a MARS Hydro 300w LED Grow Light. It went up over the fuge easily and we now have some chaeto growing.

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We also added several fish. This is the stock list as of today:

Female Bimac anthias
(3) Bartlett anthias
Male lyretail anthias
Female lyretail anthias
Male yellow coris wrasse
Female yellow coris wrasse
(2) Rainfordi gobies
Yellow banded possum wrasse
Labouti fairy wrasse
Male lubucks fairy wrasse
Female lubucks fairy wrasse
Male ruby head fairy wrasse
Male solorensis fairy wrasse
Red velvet fairy wrasse
Blue sided fairy wrasse
Male red margin fairy wrasse
Long fin fairy wrasse
Mcoskers flasher wrasse
Melenaris wrasse
Mystery wrasse
Japanese four line wrasse
Male onyx Picasso percula
Female onyx Picasso percula
Chocolate tang
Purple tang
Blond naso tang
Black cardinal fish
Pink bar goby
Yellow watchman goby
Sailfin blenny
Yellow tail blenny
Male crosshatch trigger
Female crosshatch trigger
(2) skunk cleaner shrimp
Fire cleaner shrimp

Fish have all been doing great until today, when I noticed ick spots on the purple tang, who has been with us for years.

I've got the Vortex XL diatom filter going and I have continued to feed metroplex infused food. At this point, stressing over it won't help. Say a prayer for our fish!

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I have to make note that the crosshatch pair was a birthday surprise from my wife... I am blessed.

Let's hope that my next update is a positive one...






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worm5406
01/25/2017, 09:02 PM
Looking really good. Maybe try taking closer pictures of the front of the tank and have them overlap. Then use a sticher program and make it a large panoramic.

Would look nice on a dual screen monitor!!

Stylo328
01/27/2017, 08:39 PM
Looking really good. Maybe try taking closer pictures of the front of the tank and have them overlap. Then use a sticher program and make it a large panoramic.

Would look nice on a dual screen monitor!!



Thanks! I'll try and snap a few good pictures this weekend. I don't know about "stitcher" programs, but I'll try to post up some better quality shots.


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ashish
01/29/2017, 11:36 PM
I enjoyed all the pictures tank set up is top notch!, thanks for sharing!.. I just ordered a ghost overflow from synergy is it really as quiet as they claim?

Stylo328
01/31/2017, 08:51 PM
I enjoyed all the pictures tank set up is top notch!, thanks for sharing!.. I just ordered a ghost overflow from synergy is it really as quiet as they claim?



Thanks! It is absolutely silent. You will also really appreciate the slim profile. Congrats on the new overflow.


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Stylo328
02/23/2017, 08:40 PM
Good evening ReefCentral. It's been about a month since my last update; probably too long...

I ended the last post with the sentence "let's hope my next update is a positive one". While I was doing all I could to stay positive, I fully expected to have some fish losses as a result of the ick. Here we are a month later and I am happy to report that the only losses were the red margin fairy wrasse, who died after the trigger bit its pectoral fin off and was subsequently killed by its tank mates. My wife saw him missing the fun in the morning and called me. I expected to get him out later that evening after work. By the time I got home there was not enough of him left to even pull a carcass from the tank [emoji15]. I also lost the red velvet fairy wrasse who jumped out while I had the canopy open. He could not have been on the floor more than a few minutes while I was in the garage. By the time I found him and put him in the sump, it was too late. He swam around a bit and died within minutes.

As for the ick, I used a combination of a DE filter (Vortex XL with mag drive upgrade) and Poly Lab Medic treatments to tackle it. I wont vouch for either of them as I have no clue which one worked or if the fish just developed immunity to the ick. Nevertheless it's been over a week since I last saw any white spots on any fish or any scratching against the tank floor or rocks. I now have to decide if it is worth adding any more fish and risking another outbreak or just leaving things as-is.

On the coral front, I am sad to report that I have discovered AEFW in the tank. Some eggs must have snuck in. We Bayer dip and check every frag. Oh well... such is life. I have started a regimen of using a maxi-jet 1200 to blow off all of the corals and fortunately the fairy wrasses are consuming all of the flat worms that are blown into the water column. These wrasses learn quick! They now follow the MJ1200 around the tank waiting for the meaty little morsels to manifest. Not sure I will ever eradicate the AEFW, but this is the best option I've got...

I also have what I think is a bryopsis outbreak. There are little patches within several acro and zoanthid colonies. I am strongly considering giving the fluconazole treatment a try. I may order the capsules this coming week. I'll post some progress photos if I do.

I added some macro algae to the refugium. A batch of dragon's breath, some more chaeto and a clump of caulerpa prolifera. They came in earlier this week. The chaeto and prolifera are looking great. The dragons breath, not so much. I have since moved it into the shade a bit as the 300w light may be a little much. I also added some additional dry rock to the refugium.

Finally, I added another larger rock to the middle of the tank. I wasn't loving that one rock structure and feel the addition looks much more natural. I glued several frags to the new rock and am looking forward to seeing it fill in a bit, both with some encrusting from the frags and with coraline.

Thanks for reading now on to the pics:

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And a few chalice shots. Some are mine while others are being babysat for a friend.

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Stylo328
02/26/2017, 08:51 PM
I've been noticing a little more algae than I would like, particularly on the starboard and rear glass. Decided to add 50 more turbo snails. I think I underestimated the surface area of the tank.

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Within minutes I could see a difference.

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I also cleaned out the refugium today. Should have taken a before picture - the algae growth was unreal. Here is the end result.

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And just for fun, here is an actinic shot I caught of the mystery wrasse. Since the addition of the fairy wrasses, his vertical stripes have really popped.

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McGee10
02/27/2017, 06:31 AM
Very nice I love it keep the updates coming please

Stylo328
02/28/2017, 01:49 PM
Very nice I love it keep the updates coming please



Thank you very much.


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Stylo328
02/28/2017, 01:49 PM
A quick picture of my boy...

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Stylo328
03/04/2017, 06:26 PM
I've been battling algae for the last few weeks. I attribute it primarily to the amount I'm feeding to make sure the triggers get enough nutrition. Today I did what I thought was a deep cleaning and a 75 gallon water change. Sadly the tank looks like I didn't even touch it.

These are picture after the water change and scrubbing:

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I think it's a combination of bryopsis, hair algae and this brown stringy algae that seems to be everywhere.

Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.


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worm5406
03/04/2017, 07:48 PM
Take a look at this thread:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2622044

I have heard quite a few people having very good luck with it.

Along with using Vibrant.

Stylo328
03/04/2017, 08:55 PM
Take a look at this thread:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2622044

I have heard quite a few people having very good luck with it.

Along with using Vibrant.



Thanks. Planning on placing an order. 400-gallons consumes a lot of capsules.


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worm5406
03/04/2017, 10:00 PM
People have had cyno breakout using vibrant at the same time. I would hold off on the VIbrant if you need to use it until it has run its course.

Stylo328
03/06/2017, 05:01 AM
Here are a few photos taken yesterday for algae growth comparison.

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The 50 additional turbo snails have made a difference but barely noticeable. The BRS high-capacity GFO should arrive today.


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dgasmd
04/02/2017, 08:46 AM
How is your tank coming along? New pictures of progress? The algae, which it may have to do with detritus settling and not enough of a "cleaning crew", likely has more to do with the new increased bioload. It takes several weeks, and sometimes months for a new tank to settle even with the same corals, rock, fish, and even better equipment than before. Add to it that using natural seawater does bring a huge amount of life in it that will contribute to the bioload. Give it time/patience and use a powerhead from the to time to blow off the algae.

dgasmd
04/02/2017, 08:56 AM
Lastly, increasing the amount of rock you have would be a good thing. I realize you like the clean and minimal look, but rock does magic to your water quality. I would fill that sump with as much rock/rubble as you can fit in it. Just something to consider..........

Darthv247
04/02/2017, 09:30 AM
rock and rubble in sumps traps so much detritus though. could try some of the bio blocks. they seem easier to keep clean. More rock in the display too. 400 gallon tank needs a ton of bacteria population.

locito277
04/05/2017, 11:22 PM
Where are the new pics? Hows the algae doing?

Stylo328
05/20/2017, 09:06 AM
This update has been overdue for quite some time. First a few photos and then some big news...

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Now for the big news... My family and I are moving across the state and the tank is being relocated within the next two weeks. Reef Savvy will be handling the relocation for us and is building a new stand as the tank will be going in-wall in our new home.

The plan is to upgrade the lighting to a mix of metal halide and reef bright LEDs and make some other minor changes on the equipment side. I will document the move well on this thread and expect to continue updating with more frequency at the new house.


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sfsuphysics
05/20/2017, 03:05 PM
Congrats ???

Either way look forward to see you talk about the tank move, always wondered about the logistics of moving a tank this large.

Stylo328
05/20/2017, 04:29 PM
Congrats ???



Either way look forward to see you talk about the tank move, always wondered about the logistics of moving a tank this large.



Yes, promotion/relocation, thank you. The whole family is very excited.

I will try to take as many photos as possible of the move to chronicle it for posterity.

It's a bit daunting, but we are committed.


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McPuff
05/22/2017, 06:44 AM
Wow, that would be a tough one to move without such help! Congrats on the new position!

That pyroferus tang looks terrific! The coloration on mine is similar but he's nowhere near as fat as yours just yet. :0)

aquavista99
05/23/2017, 09:54 PM
Amazing updates! Best of luck with the move and tank relocation my friend.

ReefKeeper64
06/15/2017, 12:00 PM
That's a beautiful setup you have there. Definitely a show piece to be proud of.

Keep up the good work!

ReefKeeper64
06/15/2017, 12:02 PM
If you are headed to the Tampa area and need a hand, let me know.

locito277
06/15/2017, 05:07 PM
Pics!!


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reefzone123
06/25/2017, 08:39 PM
woah love what you did with the tank. applaud your efforts. amazing custom contemporary visuals. thanks for sharing.

Stylo328
06/28/2017, 05:21 PM
Hello all!

This update is way overdue. My apologies for the delays. The move has been awesome and challenging at the same time.

I'll start with some of the prep work. We were fortunate to close on the new house with a week and a half to spare before the scheduled move of the tank. Fortunately the new owners of our home were gracious enough to allow us to move the tank they Saturday after we closed on the sale.

I knew I couldn't do this by myself and I was blessed to have Felix and the team at Reef Savvy agree to help with the move. Andro, one of the amazing local service guys also played a part and bought us 600 gallons of water and played an active role in the move as well, managing the livestock move.

Since I had some time to work at the new house, I hired some local subcontractors to cut open the hole in the wall between the dining room and the garage. I also had a slab of concrete poured in the garage to ensure the tank would be completely level. Fortunately we already had power in the garage and therefore running two 20 amp circuit's was no problem at all. The HVAC subcontractor was able to run two vents and a return to ensure the tank stays nice and cool. We also ordered a pair of floor-to-ceiling low-E vinyl sliding glass doors to complete the tank room behind the tank.

Here are a few photos of the pre-work, which required relocating the water heater and associated plumbing.

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More to follow!


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ReefKeeper64
06/28/2017, 06:14 PM
You have been busy. How long is the slab?

Stylo328
06/28/2017, 06:39 PM
You have been busy. How long is the slab?



More busy than we had imagined.

As for slab, it is 14'4". Allows for some room at the end for electronics and r/o storage container.


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Stylo328
07/02/2017, 04:53 AM
Good morning!

Fast forward to move day. It started with a drive at 5:00 am back to the old house, where I met the team from Reef Savvy along with Andro a local service wizard. We disassembled as much of the setup as we could, Apex, skimmer, fans, lighting, etc... it all came off of the system and out of the stand. I could not believe how much we had crammed under and behind the tank!

I purchased three 150qt coolers and had several others for rock and coral. The fish were all transported in a 175-gallon water tank.

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Once all of the equipment was off the system, we began the arduous process of removing all livestock. The team carefully and strategically placed rocks and corals in coolers that had previously been filled with tank water. As luck would have it, the rain started to come down, and not just a drizzle, it was pouring!

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Huge props to Felix and team as they were completely soaked from rain water and didn't skip a beat!

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Once the tank contents had been transferred and water drained, we began to carefully and meticulously shift the glass from the stand to a custom made dolly. Felix and team had specialty jacks and suction cups - the dolly they built was a tank!

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Once on the dolly, the team shrink-wrapped the glass and off it went to be loaded in the truck for the three-hour drive.

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More to follow.


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dgasmd
07/17/2017, 10:05 AM
Needs updating buddy!!!

xoomer
07/25/2017, 01:22 PM
subscribed,

where did you get those magnetic thingies that hold your "door" panels?

FireReeferSteve
07/25/2017, 02:00 PM
Nice!


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