Which Heaters?

[aic]

I recently set up a tank and used a Finnex titanium heater. I reached my hand into the tank and felt a shock. This heater was brand new. Not even a day old.

I unplugged the heater and later removed it. I got 2 neotherm heaters- and now I see that they have had issues blowing up.

What's a good reliable heater that I can get? I do plan on running it with a controller, and need it semi-compact to fit in the sump.

[mcgyvr]

I would never buy anything but an Eheim Jager TruTemp or Aqueon Pro...

AND.. The temp controls on heaters WILL fail at sometime (even more so if you FULLY submerge them)..
Many are using a Ranco controller or an "inkbird" controller from amazon to actually control them vs waiting for the internal temp controls to fail..
Set the heaters temp to a few degrees higher than you want and let the controller and its temp sensor turn them on/off as needed..

[AlSimmons]

Those Aquaclear heaters have always been good to me. (submersible) I think the one I have now is well over ten years old and it's been flawless thus far. Just set it & forget it.
No matter which brand you go with though there's always going to be some bad apples.

[jah hoeva]

Aqueon Pro's have been awesome for me.

[BlackTip]

I have 5 Finnex Titanium heaters that have been in use for a year without problems.

[GimpyFin]

Eheim Jagers here.

[aic]

I have 5 Finnex Titanium heaters that have been in use for a year without problems.

I plugged one in an was shocked less than an hour later.

[ptreef]

eheim jagers for me. work great and last.
had quite a few over the yrs. I replace every few yrs to be safe as they are not expensive and use on a contoller!

[cincyjim]

Eheim Jagers here as well.

[aic]

I'm finding that the Aqueon Pros are out of stock everywhere.
Wonder what is going on

[canadianeh]

Eheim Jager! I returned my Fenix when it first arrives.

[mcgyvr]

I'm finding that the Aqueon Pros are out of stock everywhere.
Wonder what is going on
oh dang..3/2017 expected delivery...
Maybe a redesign or something...
Eheim Jager it is for you then.. :thumbsup:

[aic]

What's the difference between these two Eheim Jager's?

https://www.amazon.com/EHEIM-Jager-Aquarium-Thermostat-Heater/dp/B003SNU1I2/ref=sr_1_1?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1478720743&sr=1-1&keywords=Eheim+Jager+TruTemp+Submersible+Heater+-+100+W


https://www.bigalspets.com/eheim-jager-trutemp-submersible-heaters.html?sku=6644

[GimpyFin]

What's the difference between these two Eheim Jager's?

https://www.amazon.com/EHEIM-Jager-Aquarium-Thermostat-Heater/dp/B003SNU1I2/ref=sr_1_1?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1478720743&sr=1-1&keywords=Eheim+Jager+TruTemp+Submersible+Heater+-+100+W


https://www.bigalspets.com/eheim-jager-trutemp-submersible-heaters.html?sku=6644


They're the same (Eheim only has one heater, just different sizes.)

[ru4serious]

I bought 2 finnex 500 watt heaters about 4 months ago and now will both shock you if u put your hand in the tank. Wasted 100 bucks. Just order ehiem Jager to replace them. hope these last longer than 4 months

[MondoBongo]

my ViaAqua Titanium heaters have done quite well for me.

[Mishri]

Eheim Jager, I have one that is 20 years old and still works great (although I use it in my salt mixing station because I'm afraid.. I have new ones in my tanks)

[Drewl117]

I also use an eheim jager in my tank and ordering another 1 for my second tank.

[zsuman101]

eheim i have em in all my tanks , one is 17 yrs old

[FirstContact]

Yup Eheim Jagers here too since 2006.

[Ou8me2]

Another one for Eheim Jager. :thumbsup:

[DasCamel]

Multiple Eheims on different tanks, three years and still going strong.

[inktomi]

I'm on the Eheim Jager wagen as well. I set mine a few degrees high and use my controller to turn it on and off.

[Focal]

Schego Titaniums for me. German quality.


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[inktomi]

I've never heard of Schego -- do you like them? Thoughts? Why did you pick that brand?

[Reefer40b]

Eheim Jager had a few of them very old still working great! Yet to have one fail!

[Focal]

I've never heard of Schego -- do you like them? Thoughts? Why did you pick that brand?
I was sick of the Jager heaters failing.
I was shown the Schego brand as it is a heating module only. You need a controller or thermostat to run them. The titanium is seawater proof and very well made. I bought mine from Seame.com and delivered to Australia.

I have two 300 watt modules running off a thermostat that controls my heater and chiller, so only one is on at a time at my target temperature of 25.5 degrees celcius.

I am very happy with them.

[ali1]

I used the aqueon heaters and replace them wvery year. Heaters cant be trusted

[ksicard]

I use 2 Jager eheim heaters plugged into a JBJ true temp controller. Seems to work very well for me.

[deputydog95]

I recently set up a tank and used a Finnex titanium heater. I reached my hand into the tank and felt a shock. This heater was brand new. Not even a day old.

I unplugged the heater and later removed it. I got 2 neotherm heaters- and now I see that they have had issues blowing up.

What's a good reliable heater that I can get? I do plan on running it with a controller, and need it semi-compact to fit in the sump.

What do you mean the neotherm heaters are "blowing up"? I'd like to read more about that. I like the fact that they are sealed plastic. Seen tests where people hit them with hammers and they still don't break. Not a fan of their puny suction up mounts though. Would be nice if they had two at the top and two at the bottom for more security and the ability to mount horizontally on the sump wall in smaller sumps.

I have a master/slave setup in my tank and they work quite well. The plus/minus less than 1 degree accuracy is nonsense, but I use my apex to manage them so it's a moot point. I crank them up a couple degrees higher than necessary and the apex turns them on/off at will.

I currently see a temp variation of less than half a degree. Extremely consistent.

[CindyK]

I have 3 aqueon heaters and hate them. They can't keep my temp in range they're always 6-8 deg off.

My neotherms keep my DT within 0.5 deg of the set temp.

I did quite a bit of reading before purchasing neotherms, it was the 200w version that has problems. I believe that has been resolved or they just stopped making them I don't remember.

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[FirstContact]

Schego Titaniums for me. German quality.


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I'd be willing to try those, but I don't think they're exported to the US. The electrical plug for the outlets is not going to match ours.

[Ou8me2]

What do you mean the neotherm heaters are "blowing up"? I'd like to read more about that. You can google it and read. Probably the most talked about one blowing up was Joey the DIY guy on Youtube. He lost all his freshwater stingrays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EzObDTkwQk

[Bongo Shrimp]

I currently am using around 15 eheim jagers, 4 aqueons, and 15 finnex titanium heaters and They have all been great. I particularly love that the eheims can be calibrated if need be.

Just never ever get a cobalt neo therm heater. I had two and both failed with one leaking current into the tank and one cooking my livestock at a beautiful 93F. Not only are they expensive, they are crap.

[ReefCowboy]

Ill be trying soon the Aqueon Pros 250w. I read great reviews on them and they seem very reliable. I own many eheims, but my new sump will only hold <14" length ones, so i believe in that size range the Aqueons are the best available option.

[Mishri]

You can google it and read. Probably the most talked about one blowing up was Joey the DIY guy on Youtube. He lost all his freshwater stingrays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EzObDTkwQk



I dunno.. he is canadian.. probably doesn't know how electricity works... if it were sheep, i'd believe him.

i'm j/k.. this sounded horrible... but it sounds like in that video the few issues were addressed, and hopefully solved... i'd still take an eheim over them..

[Focal]

I'd be willing to try those, but I don't think they're exported to the US. The electrical plug for the outlets is not going to match ours.



Very true, our voltage is 240v in Australia.


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[Elricsfate]

I'm curious. I pulled all of the following specs off of BRS' website. How can these wattages/tank sizes be accurate? I understand different technologies and all, but the number of watts it takes to heat one gallon of water doesn't seem like it should vary as widely as the information below indicates.

Any ideas?


Quick Compare - Cobalt Neo-Therm Submersible Aquarium Heaters

25W 6 Gallons
50W 12 Gallons
100W 29 Gallons
150W 40 Gallons
200W 55 Gallons


Quick Compare - Eheim Jager TruTemp Aquarium Heaters

3611 5-7 gallons 25W 9"
3612 7-16 gallons 50W 9"
3613 16-26 gallons 75W 10.2"
3614 26-40 gallons 100W 12.2"
3615 40-53 gallons 125W 12.2"
3616 53-79 gallons 150W 13.4"
3617 79-106 gallons 200W 15.7"
3618 106-159 gallons 250W 17.78"
3619 159-264 gallons 300W 19.6"

Finnex TH Deluxe

300W Deluxe – 40-80 Gallon tanks
500W Deluxe – 70-130 Gallon tanks
800W Deluxe – 140-265 Gallon tanks

[Ou8me2]

I'm curious. I pulled all of the following specs off of BRS' website. How can these wattages/tank sizes be accurate? I understand different technologies and all, but the number of watts it takes to heat one gallon of water doesn't seem like it should vary as widely as the information below indicates.

Any ideas?


Quick Compare - Cobalt Neo-Therm Submersible Aquarium Heaters

25W 6 Gallons
50W 12 Gallons
100W 29 Gallons
150W 40 Gallons
200W 55 Gallons


Quick Compare - Eheim Jager TruTemp Aquarium Heaters

3611 5-7 gallons 25W 9"
3612 7-16 gallons 50W 9"
3613 16-26 gallons 75W 10.2"
3614 26-40 gallons 100W 12.2"
3615 40-53 gallons 125W 12.2"
3616 53-79 gallons 150W 13.4"
3617 79-106 gallons 200W 15.7"
3618 106-159 gallons 250W 17.78"
3619 159-264 gallons 300W 19.6"

Finnex TH Deluxe

300W Deluxe – 40-80 Gallon tanks
500W Deluxe – 70-130 Gallon tanks
800W Deluxe – 140-265 Gallon tanks

I'm no expert but I have an Eheim Jager 200 watt on my 75 with 25 gallon sump for a total of 100 gallons and it heats it no problem at all and doesn't run constantly either. My starting temp was 72 degrees and I have the heater set on 78 and it took about 6 hours to heat to temp, plus I had to recalibrate it a couple times.

[FirstContact]

I'm curious. I pulled all of the following specs off of BRS' website. How can these wattages/tank sizes be accurate? I understand different technologies and all, but the number of watts it takes to heat one gallon of water doesn't seem like it should vary as widely as the information below indicates.

Any ideas?


Quick Compare - Cobalt Neo-Therm Submersible Aquarium Heaters

25W 6 Gallons
50W 12 Gallons
100W 29 Gallons
150W 40 Gallons
200W 55 Gallons


Quick Compare - Eheim Jager TruTemp Aquarium Heaters

3611 5-7 gallons 25W 9"
3612 7-16 gallons 50W 9"
3613 16-26 gallons 75W 10.2"
3614 26-40 gallons 100W 12.2"
3615 40-53 gallons 125W 12.2"
3616 53-79 gallons 150W 13.4"
3617 79-106 gallons 200W 15.7"
3618 106-159 gallons 250W 17.78"
3619 159-264 gallons 300W 19.6"

Finnex TH Deluxe

300W Deluxe – 40-80 Gallon tanks
500W Deluxe – 70-130 Gallon tanks
800W Deluxe – 140-265 Gallon tanks

Yeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me either. But I noticed the 300w Finnex is a lot shorter than a 300w Eheim. Maybe that has something to do with it.

[carrots]

I hate to be a spoiler but I replaced a 5 year old eheim with a new one and notice that as it heats up it makes a banging sound every 5 seconds or so. This continues until the heater light goes off. Almost sounds like it is hitting the tank wall. I only hear it when the heating light is on.

[Hentz]

I just use eheim. Don't feel it's necessary to invest in expensive heaters when I have my Apex in control of my temp. Just need it to turn on and off.

[Ou8me2]

Heaters are probably the single most failed piece of equipment in aquariums. It's not if a heater will fail, it's when a heater will fail. There is no brand the has zero failures. However, I have found the Eheim Jagers have been pretty reliable for me over the years and they are not expensive.

If you look at the sizes you'll see that the heaters vary in size. I'm guessing cause the Eheim Jagers tend to be longer with bigger heating elements is the reason in their sizing for tanks.

[Ou8me2]

I'm definitely picking up a couple extra Eheim Jagers since BRS has them on a doorbuster special for cheap. The 200,250 and 300 are only like 24 and they are normally 32.

[aic]

Has anyone ever tried an in-line?

I have the Ehiems, but need a few more powerful but shorter heaters for a few tight spots.