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Hi, All.
I have my 55 gallon up and nutrient poor stable (I run ZEOVit) and I'm looking to add some fish to it. Lookin to max out around 8-10 fish. Here's my current livestock list. What suggestions does everyone have of some nice fish that will get along? Right now all of my fish are happy and treating each other well. Here's what is currently in there:
Fireball Angel
2x Cinnamon Clowns
Royal Gramma
Yellow Watchman Goby
Snails
Pom Pom Crab
Emerald Crab
Randall's Pistol Shrimp
Let me know!
Joey
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oneofmany
11/23/2016, 02:36 AM
Maybe stick with what you have? If those clowns ever decide to pair up that tank will get a lot smaller in a hurry. Both that Angel and the Gramma can hold their own, but when it really boils down to it that tank has been cut into three. Those Clownfish might rule them all...
Maybe stick with what you have? If those clowns ever decide to pair up that tank will get a lot smaller in a hurry.
They are already paired.
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oneofmany
11/23/2016, 02:39 AM
Too quick on the draw perhaps?
Too quick on the draw perhaps?
What do you mean? The only thing the clowns bother at the moment is me when I stick my hand in the tank haha.
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oneofmany
11/23/2016, 02:41 AM
Aren't those Cinnamon clowns almost twice the size of an Ocellaris? Do the math...
Aren't those Cinnamon clowns almost twice the size of an Ocellaris? Do the math...
Not at the moment. I got them as babies. Will take a few years for them to reach 3" and by that time I'll probably upgrade.
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oneofmany
11/23/2016, 02:57 AM
Those Clownfish are no joke, especially when they pair up. Some fish have a pass, others don't. Relentless harassment.... GL.
scooter31707
11/23/2016, 08:27 AM
Cinnamons are a close second behind the Maroon for as aggression. They are very capable of taking over that whole tank. Also may want to be watchful of that Angel. IME, they can be jerks also.
Cinnamons are a close second behind the Maroon for as aggression. They are very capable of taking over that whole tank. Also may want to be watchful of that Angel. IME, they can be jerks also.
Maybe I got lucky. Either way no one has any other suggestions aside from how much my current fish are jerks?
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fscmocsaj
11/23/2016, 12:55 PM
People can be jerks huh. Anyways, in a 55 I would stock an engineer goby, Bangaii Cardinals, Midas blenny or starry blenny, 6 line wrasse, and a flame hawkfish.
Didn't really answer your question on what to stock on top of what you currently have... I just wrote the fish I would put In a 55... Hope this helps you a little bit
People can be jerks huh. Anyways, in a 55 I would stock an engineer goby, Bangaii Cardinals, Midas blenny or starry blenny, 6 line wrasse, and a flame hawkfish.
Didn't really answer your question on what to stock on top of what you currently have... I just wrote the fish I would put In a 55... Hope this helps you a little bit
it does thanks. Wouldn't a flame hawk go after the crab?
Fish Friend
11/23/2016, 02:29 PM
Wow, stunning combination, it sounds like the colours of your fishes are really great.
When I started saltwater keeping, I was sure I wanted colourful livestock, as I love lively colours.
Then I met my favorites fish.
It was undernourished, had debris stuck in one gill and fin rot had taken the bottom of its fins of, it didn't seem to be growing back.
I tried to save that fish (managed to remove the debris, it seemed happy for that) but it did not live long unfortunately. But I fell in love with it and now I keep a tank dedicated to a pair of clownfish pandas and a host anemone.
My personal choice with a tank like yours, would be to let the clownfishes own the territory and get a second tank and get more there :)
Clowns are very territorial and will spend more time standing guard at their safe spots if you add more. If they are free to own the tank, you will see much more playful clown socialising.
I am unsure if your clowns complete much with the goby. If they do fine, you could go for another watchman. If they disprove as they grow, it might result in sandwars tho, so perhaps that is not such a good idea anyway.
Since it looks as if you are doing good, I am sure you will keep making great choices :)
fscmocsaj
11/23/2016, 02:45 PM
Most likely your Pom Pom and maybe the pistol shrimp but my friend houses one with a pistol and emerald crabs and he doesn't go after them. Maybe because he keeps him well fed. Are you looking for fish that are purely for aesthetics or ones that will benefit your tank in some way shape or form?
Also for another suggestion if it is possible I would try to return the cinnamon clowns and royal gamma to your LFS to get a "better suited" fish. Not trying to tell you what to do but people are right about those clowns they are vicious and personally the royal are my least favorite fish...
Hawk fish and blennies are by far my favorite type of fish. They have the best personalities.
devimik
11/23/2016, 02:46 PM
I'd try a Fairy Wrasse possibly or an Orange Tail Filefish.
Thanks for the suggestion. What about chromis? Anyone down for that?
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Ok guys. I went to the store and this is what we came up with as options. A fairy wrasse, 3 chromis, ruby red dragon. Let me know what you guys think of these options. FYI I keep my tank well fed.
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shifty51008
11/25/2016, 06:03 PM
the chromis may be fine but usually pick each other off till your down to 1 left. the ruby red dragon needs live pods, some will accept frozen and pellet foods but they really need pods to survive long term IMO. a pair a cardinals would work good also and maybe a blenny.
the chromis may be fine but usually pick each other off till your down to 1 left. the ruby red dragon needs live pods, some will accept frozen and pellet foods but they really need pods to survive long term IMO. a pair a cardinals would work good also and maybe a blenny.
Ok so I'm gunna settle on one PJ, one Chromis, and one Red Dragon. I'm willing to feed the tank live pods that's not an issue.
Thanks everyone for the advice!!
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anthonys51
11/25/2016, 07:44 PM
i love fairy wrasse, they swim around all day and never bother anyone. not sure if the clowns will bully them, i never had cin only oct clowns. but you need a cover fairy wrasses will jump. also dont get a 6 line wrasse they have napoleon complex. my lfs doesnt ever sell them or sohal tangs, say they are too nasty
i love fairy wrasse, they swim around all day and never bother anyone. not sure if the clowns will bully them, i never had cin only oct clowns. but you need a cover fairy wrasses will jump. also dont get a 6 line wrasse they have napoleon complex. my lfs doesnt ever sell them or sohal tangs, say they are too nasty
Good tips. I'm gunna skip the wrasse because I can't easily put a top on my tank.
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It's funny everyone is talking about how aggressive my clownfish and gramma are but this morning they were all hanging swimming around my tank together in the same circle. I go over to my QT tank and find my PJ cardinal bullying the crap out of the other one and the Blue-Green Chromis.
He's going back to the store tomorrow.
scooter31707
11/30/2016, 11:34 AM
It's funny everyone is talking about how aggressive my clownfish and gramma are but this morning they were all hanging swimming around my tank together in the same circle. I go over to my QT tank and find my PJ cardinal bullying the crap out of the other one and the Blue-Green Chromis.
He's going back to the store tomorrow.
Give them time, you will start to see a difference as they mature or if they become a bonded pair and start breeding.
What do you guys thing of a Midas Blenny?
marleesan
12/01/2016, 06:53 PM
I recommend against the red ruby dragonet as they are pod eaters and need thousands of pods a day. Unless you have a huge sump the dragonet will likely starve
Joe0813
12/01/2016, 07:16 PM
clown goby or fairy wrasse... I wouldn't put 8-10 fish in a 55 gallon
Betaktical
12/01/2016, 07:37 PM
I have a fairy wrasse also. He kinda bullied my clowns for a little then my banggai Cardinal taught him a lesson over the span of two weeks and he doesn't bother anyone any more. In fact the clowns Cardinal and fairy wrasse kinda school around all day together
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I recommend against the red ruby dragonet as they are pod eaters and need thousands of pods a day. Unless you have a huge sump the dragonet will likely starve
I put pods in every month regardless. I have a nice healthy population they are always on the glass and stuff. Good tip though.
anthonys51
12/03/2016, 09:14 PM
I put pods in every month regardless. I have a nice healthy population they are always on the glass and stuff. Good tip though.
Putting pods in every month is just wasting your money. Your tank either had the conditions for pods to grow or it doesn't Adding more doesn't do anything but make your wallet lighter
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Putting pods in every month is just wasting your money. Your tank either had the conditions for pods to grow or it doesn't Adding more doesn't do anything but make your wallet lighter
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I don't agree. I like feeding my fish live foods. Sometimes I even feed them live muscles and clams from Whole Foods. The goal is that this fish needs live pods. If I want to buy them to be sure my pet has enough food--weather or not I'm making my wallet "lighter" is my worry not yours.
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anthonys51
12/03/2016, 09:23 PM
Lol your funny you don't agree. Your in here asking for help. If your so smart don't ask for help. This is the last time I will offer you advice. Your very ungrateful and don't know half as much as your think.
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Lol your funny you don't agree. Your in here asking for help. If your so smart don't ask for help. This is the last time I will offer you advice. Your very ungrateful and don't know half as much as your think.
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I asked for suggestions on which fish to put in, not what to spend money on. Don't give unsolicited advice bro.
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anthonys51
12/03/2016, 09:25 PM
Take it easy with your neon green shirt
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Take it easy with your neon green shirt
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You know what, sorry if I offended you dude. I just get ****y when people give me side advice. My bad. Anyway, I had to deal with the two fish I got + the one spawn of Satan who went back to the store.
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anthonys51
12/03/2016, 09:37 PM
Its ok bro all good. But It's only advice. Don't tAke it so personal ok. Take it with a grain of salt. In the end your tank is your baby abd of course you can do what you want. Pj cardinals aren't really that mean of a fish. Little chasing is ok. I had a kole tang chase a new coral beauty like crazy for a week. Coral beauty couldn't even come out and eat. Ny wife wanted me to take it out. After 2 weeks they don't even look at each other. I told her it's ok. One fish just trying to show the other who is boss. But there was no bodily harm. As long as it's just a little chasing it will be ok give it time
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Its ok bro all good. But It's only advice. Don't tAke it so personal ok. Take it with a grain of salt. In the end your tank is your baby abd of course you can do what you want. Pj cardinals aren't really that mean of a fish. Little chasing is ok. I had a kole tang chase a new coral beauty like crazy for a week. Coral beauty couldn't even come out and eat. Ny wife wanted me to take it out. After 2 weeks they don't even look at each other. I told her it's ok. One fish just trying to show the other who is boss. But there was no bodily harm. As long as it's just a little chasing it will be ok give it time
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I already took him back. He was actually nipping at the other PJs fins and wouldn't let
Him eat. I was worried what he would do to the other fish when I took him out of QT. The fins were all ratty it was sad. As soon as I took him out the other way was happy as a lunatic and immediately left his corner. His fins already grew back too. It's been about 5 days.
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anthonys51
12/03/2016, 09:43 PM
Sometime with 2 small a tank fish will harass the other even with a so called schooling fishing like pj cards. I had 5 in a 125 year ago they did ok. But yes one was king of the tank
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Sometime with 2 small a tank fish will harass the other even with a so called schooling fishing like pj cards. I had 5 in a 125 year ago they did ok. But yes one was king of the tank
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Yeah that's a good point. I thought of that once maybe I put them in the larger tank they would chill. Didn't want to take the risk.
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anthonys51
12/03/2016, 09:53 PM
Would add them all at same time if I where you. When fish are small and young you can get away with more stuff then once they are full grown and established a territory in your tank
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Would add them all at same time if I where you. When fish are small and young you can get away with more stuff then once they are full grown and established a territory in your tank
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Yeah agreed. I think after these two fish I'm probably done. Let's see how this goes.
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anthonys51
12/03/2016, 09:55 PM
I have 11 fish in a 57. I was done at 7 lol.
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I have 11 fish in a 57. I was done at 7 lol.
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Hahha
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I have 11 fish in a 57. I was done at 7 lol.
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I was thinking of adding a clown Goby, neon Goby, and mandarin eventually. Well see.
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anthonys51
12/03/2016, 10:03 PM
I have too many agreed I've eaters in my tank. Clown goby would never get to eat. I will be getting a pair of mandarins but my 265 is still cycling so I'll probably wait 6 to 9 months.
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I have too many agreed I've eaters in my tank. Clown goby would never get to eat. I will be getting a pair of mandarins but my 265 is still cycling so I'll probably wait 6 to 9 months.
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If they don't fight and your nutrients are ok not sure why that's too much. I rump ZEOVit so my nitrates are never above 2.5ppm and my Phosphates are never above .04ppm so I may be able to support more. Are clown Goby shy eaters? I usually try to target feed my yellow Watchman, or I at least make sure he eats.
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anthonys51
12/03/2016, 10:09 PM
I have a hippo, yellow tang , kole tang , 2 anthias , 2 fairy wrasses, watchman goby, coral beauty , 2 clowns. They don't fight but I do have to watch nutrients sometimes but I tend to over feed. That's why new system I have a 6 foot 200 gallon sump with 3 feet for refugium and turning my 57 into a Marco tank with 6 inch deep sand bed
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