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pfan151
12/01/2016, 01:07 PM
Just stopped by the LFS when they were unpacking their shipment. They had a nem that came in as a "green carpet". It's definitely not a haddoni. Pretty positive it's a gig. I'll get a pic tonight when I get in my treatment tank tonight but it's tentacles are definitely twitching in the bag. It has a base with a blue hue to it and a brown/green disc. Just want to confirm it's a gig and not a helianthus.

worm5406
12/01/2016, 01:14 PM
Pictures will really help.

Sounds like a gig. But with out seeing a few things it is hard to say with out miss-reading one criteria.

ThRoewer
12/01/2016, 03:47 PM
In my experience giganteas are the only carpet anemones that have twitching or waving tentacles without being moved by flow..

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pfan151
12/01/2016, 06:08 PM
Thanks. I'm positive it's a gig now after getting it home out of the bag. The crappy clip on light makes it look browner than it is but it's looking pretty healthy so far. I think it will end up brown with green in the tips if I manage to not kill it.
http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah319/vandegrift12/IMG_9189_zpsccntbdav.jpg (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/vandegrift12/media/IMG_9189_zpsccntbdav.jpg.html)

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah319/vandegrift12/IMG_9188_zpsjeeulsmn.jpg (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/vandegrift12/media/IMG_9188_zpsjeeulsmn.jpg.html)

OrionN
12/01/2016, 07:43 PM
It is a Gigantea. Seem healthy .

zooman72
12/01/2016, 08:33 PM
Good score - good luck!

I passed on a little brown/green/multicolor one locally a couple of months ago, and I regret it every time I am in that shop... :(

pfan151
12/01/2016, 08:59 PM
Good score - good luck!

I passed on a little brown/green/multicolor one locally a couple of months ago, and I regret it every time I am in that shop... :(

Yea, it's not the best looking one I've ever seen but it looks a lot better than those pics show. The white light really washes its color out but I'm hoping the light will be sufficient for during QT. It's actually the first one I've ever seen in a store here in FL.

pfan151
12/01/2016, 09:09 PM
Looking really healthy now that it settled in a bit. Still going with 7 days of treatment though.

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah319/vandegrift12/IMG_9196_zpsjekqw4oo.jpg (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/vandegrift12/media/IMG_9196_zpsjekqw4oo.jpg.html)


http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah319/vandegrift12/IMG_9195_zpsdaskadjw.jpg (http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/vandegrift12/media/IMG_9195_zpsdaskadjw.jpg.html)

worm5406
12/01/2016, 11:17 PM
Looking good. Post up a video or two when you get a chance. Just to see how it reacts to flow and all.

I always like to show people how the start out and then progress to greatness.

timnem70
12/02/2016, 11:02 AM
That's gonna be a MONSTER in like 6 months. Be careful, large Gigs cam kill smaller host clowns. Just got rid of mine after 4 years. He was the size of a dinner plate and believe killed a number of creatures in my reef.

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pfan151
12/02/2016, 11:54 AM
That's gonna be a MONSTER in like 6 months. Be careful, large Gigs cam kill smaller host clowns. Just got rid of mine after 4 years. He was the size of a dinner plate and believe killed a number of creatures in my reef.

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I know they can be fish eaters but I'd be surprised if it ate my perculas. It will eventually go in a 60g cube. I'm hoping the other fish will be smart enough to stay away. I have the lights set to ramp up slowly and i think that helps keep them from getting scared when the lights come on in the morning.

OrionN
12/02/2016, 12:21 PM
They will not kill your clowns. And the anemone is the host not the clowns. Gigantea are beautiful even the one that does not have bright colors. He will not grown much unless you feed him.
Timnem70,
It does not seem like you keep Gigantea before.
Gigantea are fish eater and will eat any non clownfish that blunder into it.

timnem70
12/02/2016, 02:12 PM
They are beautiful creatures and I know I don't have your expertise OrionN (I follow your advice on anemone a lot over the past couple years) I am not sure why I said host clowns and meant to say smaller fish and others that happen to get close. My Gig was in a 300 gallon for almost 4 years. I had a number of other anemones that were large and were fed indirectly but the Gig was a carnivore through and through and ate like mad. I think it's still at the LFS that I got store credit for. They told me It was returned twice after they tied to sell it cause it "kills fish". He says it's going in a 60 gallon and they are beautiful creatures. Just be careful with the smaller stuff in your tank with it in there that's all. In a 60 gallon your fish will be smaller so... Thanks

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duyhuynh
12/02/2016, 03:11 PM
They are beautiful creatures and I know I don't have your expertise OrionN (I follow your advice on anemone a lot over the past couple years) I am not sure why I said host clowns and meant to say smaller fish and others that happen to get close. My Gig was in a 300 gallon for almost 4 years. I had a number of other anemones that were large and were fed indirectly but the Gig was a carnivore through and through and ate like mad. I think it's still at the LFS that I got store credit for. They told me It was returned twice after they tied to sell it cause it "kills fish". He says it's going in a 60 gallon and they are beautiful creatures. Just be careful with the smaller stuff in your tank with it in there that's all. In a 60 gallon your fish will be smaller so... Thanks

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Do you have any pic? I might be interested. Thanks

zooman72
12/02/2016, 03:36 PM
I don't directly feed mine, and it has not grown an inch. It has on occasion taken a fish or two (smaller ones at that) in the couple of years that I have had it, but nothing like the S. haddoni that I had before it - it was big and beautifully florescent green, and ate everything but the clownfish being hosted, doubling in size in just a couple of months. While I miss it, trading it in back then for the purple gig I have now was the best decision I have made in some time.

I would not consider gigs to be much of a problem with other fishes usually, and are infrequently available around here (once a year for a good one if lucky) - I will not pass up another!

timnem70
12/02/2016, 03:38 PM
Do you have any pic? I might be interested. Thanks
Next time I go to the store to get I will . RODI. You know this is in Denver right?

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OrionN
12/02/2016, 04:48 PM
There is no doubt that Gigantea can eat really big fish. I got picture somewhere when my 8 inches Gigantea ate my 7 inches Albalone (shell length of about 4 inches). The albalone was 1/2 digested when the Gigantea spit it out. My Gigantea was sick for a few days after that meal.
Light dim down for the night before off is great. This and don't startle you fish. This will keep a lot of the fish from getting kill by carpets.

pfan151
12/02/2016, 08:23 PM
https://vimeo.com/194124430

Looking good so far. I think I might get lucky with this one.


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worm5406
12/02/2016, 10:24 PM
Very nice. Thanks for the video.

Next time you do some tank maintenance on it / water change. Leave the pump off for the video. Lets see how it moves and reacts on its own.

Keep it up and keep posting in this thread so we can see your progress.

Thanks!

zooman72
12/03/2016, 12:29 AM
Yup, looks good - would be interesting to see what color it is under typical reef lighting (hint, hint)... ;)

pfan151
12/03/2016, 08:22 AM
Yup, looks good - would be interesting to see what color it is under typical reef lighting (hint, hint)... ;)


Working on it. I have a Magnifica in the display and I want to make sure both the Magnifica and the gig are totally healthy before they go together. The mag just got out of treatment. It never deflates but the mouth still gets a little open so I'm not positive on it yet. I ordered a mars aqua light to put on the QT with the gig. My plan for now is to add some live rock once treatment is over and keep the gig in the QT tank for a while.

zooman72
12/03/2016, 10:25 AM
Ah, sounds good - keep us posted...



...and to be honest, I am just living vicariously through you since I passed up one just like this and have been regretting it ever since!

pfan151
12/04/2016, 10:03 AM
Still looking good. It shrunk down a bit and looks tucked into the dish but I'm assuming this is normal
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161204/bd9d5f35d1f2d7089a50198bd4e06408.jpg

turned the flow off for the video

https://vimeo.com/194238554


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zooman72
12/04/2016, 11:46 AM
Very nice - waiting now to see it when it is under the reef lighting, and then be envious... :)

OrionN
12/04/2016, 02:08 PM
That is normal. He looks healthy.

worm5406
12/04/2016, 08:51 PM
Good movement. Looks very good. I wish I could zoom in on that. I had to get all close to the screen. HAHAHA (Getting old I guess)

How much, if any, expelled from it? How are water changes going?

timnem70
12/04/2016, 08:52 PM
Looks healthy. Normal. Good luck.

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pfan151
12/04/2016, 11:34 PM
Good movement. Looks very good. I wish I could zoom in on that. I had to get all close to the screen. HAHAHA (Getting old I guess)

How much, if any, expelled from it? How are water changes going?

The first day it let out a little waste but nothing since then. It actually has never looked bad. Even at the store when they were aclimating it getting ready to place it in their tank.

For waterchanges I've been doing 100% a day with cipro at 25mg per gallon.

worm5406
12/05/2016, 07:32 AM
Great. Glad to her it. Keep us updated with pictures and videos. The taptalk video format you uploaded does not allow to zoom or full screen.

pfan151
12/07/2016, 09:46 PM
Looking perfect. I think I finally got lucky with one of these. Still jealous of you guys on the west coast. I'm trying not to think about how much money I spent to get a healthy gig. This was my third try. Between shipping, tons of water changes, cipro, and the anemones themselves, this guy might have cost more than the system it's going in. Still worth it and I'm dumb so I'll probably keep looking for more.

Should I crank the flow up a little more?
http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah319/vandegrift12/th_IMG_9224_zpsaxlbrpru.mp4 (http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah319/vandegrift12/IMG_9224_zpsaxlbrpru.mp4)

OrionN
12/07/2016, 10:41 PM
I spend quite a bit of money too before i got a healthy Gigantea.
I would not change much if he is doing well. Once he is in your DT, then you can tune things up a little.

worm5406
12/08/2016, 07:43 AM
Yeah. I am getting ready to spend a pretty penny this coming spring, too.

pfan151
12/12/2016, 06:09 PM
Finally got my better light in. It definitely bleached some during treatment but it still looks healthy and the tentacles are getting longer. I've been feeding it a tiny piece of shrimp every few days

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah319/vandegrift12/th_IMG_9262_zps4sxtyhl4.mp4 (http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah319/vandegrift12/IMG_9262_zps4sxtyhl4.mp4)

worm5406
12/12/2016, 08:59 PM
Looking better. I tried to help you out with those videos. I dont think it likes photo bucket's mp4 links.

Try uploading to youtube. It is much easier to get them embedded and seen. I looked at the other videos while I was there too.

I see it decided to move. Might want to remove that plate and clean off the junk it spilled out.

Anything else come out of it lately?

It really does like that light.

Hold off on feeding it for a bit until it has got some health back to it. The food will add to the biomass in the water column, as it digests.

pfan151
12/12/2016, 09:03 PM
Does the video not play for you? On my phone I just click and it pops up full screen.

Right now it's foot is still partially attached to the dish so I don't want to mess with it. Hasn't been spitting anything out that I have seen. The stuff on the dish is just algae.

worm5406
12/12/2016, 09:14 PM
When i click on it, it opens in a new window and plays the video. You can move through them and look at the other ones too.

125mph
12/13/2016, 11:22 AM
Is this thing still in the QT or moved to DT now?

pfan151
12/13/2016, 12:34 PM
Is this thing still in the QT or moved to DT now?

I'm keeping it in qt for the next couple months. I am in the process of setting up a 60g cube so I'm going to wait until that is ready instead of putting it in my current display tank. I just added some live rock and some better lighting to make the QT more stable and I do 50% waterchanges every other day now instead of 100% daily.

zooman72
12/13/2016, 12:58 PM
Looks even nicer with the new light - keep up the good work... :thumbsup: