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Hi, Guys.
I'm very excited to begin day one of my species nano reef that I will be maintaining using the ZEOvit method.
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Here's what I plan on keeping in the tank:
One Black Clownfish/Snowflake
One Anemone Crab
One Neon Green Carpet Anemone or Green BTA
One Snail for CNC
One Emerald for CNC
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Here's the list of the life support and:
Nuvo Fusion 10
MP10 on Tidal Swell Mode
Kessil A80
APEX Jr
50w Neo-Therm Heater
AutoAqua - Smart ATO Micro
Here's what I plan on dosing:
Day One
ZeoBac – 2 ml
ZeoStart – 4 ml
SpongePower – 1.2
Starting at Day 4:
ZeoBac – 1 drop every other day
ZeoStart – 1 drop daily
SpongePower – 1 drop every other day
I am currently running (KISSING IT):
Dead Rock
Small Ammount of Live Rock
One Filter Sock
100ml ZEOlite Media
40ml Carbon (will be added on Day 10 as per KZ's instructions
I will post here once I have an update (IE, Algae forms, fish added, tank spontaneously explodes, etc).
Cheers,
Joey
ReeferDash
01/29/2017, 09:30 PM
Oooooooooooh man, I'm so super excited to see how this turns out!
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Oooooooooooh man, I'm so super excited to see how this turns out!
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Thanks bud!
rockhead51
01/30/2017, 05:00 AM
I got the same ATO about a week ago- so far I am loving it.
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I got the same ATO about a week ago- so far I am loving it.
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Yeah it's pretty good! It's really tiny. The only issue I have is that the pump is not strong enough to pump water from below the tank, only next to it. Does yours do the same? Do you know of a fix?
Let me know!
Joey
Small gear update. Let me introduce you to my level of OCD. The control cable for the Kessil is ugly. It sticks out of the light as you can see here:
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Well with the power of a few bucks and Amazon.com I purchased one of these:
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Much better...
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rockhead51
01/30/2017, 03:55 PM
Joey,
Mine goes into a gallon and a half Tupperware container which is at the bottom level of my tank stand. Pumps it up to my tank easy. The manual says it should provide 2m of lift (I think), mine is maybe a meter.
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Joey,
Mine goes into a gallon and a half Tupperware container which is at the bottom level of my tank stand. Pumps it up to my tank easy. The manual says it should provide 2m of lift (I think), mine is maybe a meter.
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Do you use the check valve that was included?
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rockhead51
01/30/2017, 08:20 PM
Yes, just at the top of the reservoir (so that any drips run back in).
You might want to call them- I've read a ton of reviews and most are saying that the pump is really strong.... You might have got a lemon.
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Joel_155
01/31/2017, 09:20 AM
I like the idea but you have to but you EXTREMELY careful with your dosing schedule. I tried the same thing on my 20g and ended up overdosing Zeo start. I was dosing about 1/10 of a mil. I don't want to discourage you but you need to be very regimented with your dosing. I would probably cut back the Zeo start by half
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I like the idea but you have to but you EXTREMELY careful with your dosing schedule. I tried the same thing on my 20g and ended up overdosing Zeo start. I was dosing about 1/10 of a mil. I don't want to discourage you but you need to be very regimented with your dosing. I would probably cut back the Zeo start by half
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The dosing schedule I got was directly from the ZOEvit guys after I asked them about it on their forum. I'll see how that goes.
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Joel_155
01/31/2017, 09:59 AM
Cool! Keep us posted on how it works
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Cool! Keep us posted on how it works
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I will! So far so good on the cycle. Bacterial bloom cleared up.
All. So I spoke to Bulk Reef Supply today and they said that their Anemones look great at the following water parameters:
420 calcium, 10 ALK, 1.026 salinity, 8.2 PH, .05 phosphates, nitrates 20, Mag 1300.
I obviously don't want to buff the tank to 10 and have 20 nitrates if I don't need to, but if I start having problems with the Nem and see that Alk/Nitrates are low, I may consider bringing them up.
All carpets, no drapes.
Good news everyone. The tank is almost completely through its cycle. I ended up finding a huge, about 9" carpet nem at a local LFS for 50. He's had these green carpets about 8 months. I went in to look at them and they looked amazing. He fed them, very responsive to feeding, and he's willing to hold the one I purchased for me until my tank can support it. I hope with ZEOVit I can get them to be a little more fluorescent.
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vilenarios
02/03/2017, 09:36 AM
Just curious why you choose the ZEOvit line?
Pretty sweet find on that nem. Gonna look awesome.
Just curious why you choose the ZEOvit line?
Pretty sweet find on that nem. Gonna look awesome.
I run it on my main display tank so I already have all of the products necessary for it.
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Pastey
02/03/2017, 10:06 AM
A 9" haddoni hosting an unnatural species of clown in a 10g tank with a propeller style powerhead in a open top AIO tank...I wish to offer you some advice.
I don't want to be one of those guys who tells someone all the reasons that what they want is a bad idea but I'm speaking from experience and I hope you can learn from what I did to avoid replicating.
I had a large haddoni in a 200g tank that ate about 7 fish that I KNOW OF. I took it out and put it in a 28g AIO with a pair of clarkii clowns..a natural symbiant. The anemone never stayed put for long regardless of changes in lighting, flow, or water change schedule. It was simply dead set on moving around and in a large tank, that's bad. In a small tank, it's catastrophic.
1. A 9" haddoni in a tiny tank is asking for trouble. If the anemone is unhappy with ANYTHING..flow volume/direction/etc, it can and will either go walking or let go to be taken by the flow and then it's only a matter of time before the MP10 chews it up.
2. A haddoni can AND WILL, walk right over the back wall of the tank and into the filtration chamber where it can be VERY difficult to remove and God help you if it gets sucked into the return pump. This very thing happened and it is NOT fun for all parties.
3. In such a small tank, a non-symbiotic clown has a poor chance of surviving a haddoni and with the inability to escape, you're playing Russian roulette with 5 in the chamber.
I hope you heed my warnings and alter some or all of your plan. A different anemone like a smaller BTA, larger tank without the prop pump...something. I hate to see you waste time and money on a setup where all the cards are stacked against you. Good luck.
A 9" haddoni hosting an unnatural species of clown in a 10g tank with a propeller style powerhead in a open top AIO tank...I wish to offer you some advice.
I don't want to be one of those guys who tells someone all the reasons that what they want is a bad idea but I'm speaking from experience and I hope you can learn from what I did to avoid replicating.
I had a large haddoni in a 200g tank that ate about 7 fish that I KNOW OF. I took it out and put it in a 28g AIO with a pair of clarkii clowns..a natural symbiant. The anemone never stayed put for long regardless of changes in lighting, flow, or water change schedule. It was simply dead set on moving around and in a large tank, that's bad. In a small tank, it's catastrophic.
1. A 9" haddoni in a tiny tank is asking for trouble. If the anemone is unhappy with ANYTHING..flow volume/direction/etc, it can and will either go walking or let go to be taken by the flow and then it's only a matter of time before the MP10 chews it up.
2. A haddoni can AND WILL, walk right over the back wall of the tank and into the filtration chamber where it can be VERY difficult to remove and God help you if it gets sucked into the return pump. This very thing happened and it is NOT fun for all parties.
3. In such a small tank, a non-symbiotic clown has a poor chance of surviving a haddoni and with the inability to escape, you're playing Russian roulette with 5 in the chamber.
I hope you heed my warnings and alter some or all of your plan. A different anemone like a smaller BTA, larger tank without the prop pump...something. I hate to see you waste time and money on a setup where all the cards are stacked against you. Good luck.
I understand the risks and there are steps I have taken to mitigate some of those. Thanks for you concern.
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Hi, All.
So quick update here! The tank is still cycling (day 12) and taking a bit longer than expected. I asked the guys on the ZEOvit forum why that might be. It could just be taking longer because I used dead rock and only a small amount of live rock.
Tested some other parameters today and they are a bit wacky but in a range fine for fish.
Alk 6.7dkh
Ca 480
Mg 1475
Question, is my Ca and Mg too high for a Carpet?
Finally, I found the fish I'm going to be adding! I'll announce that when the Nitrite drops and I pick him up.
Cheers,
Joey
Bagabaga
02/10/2017, 03:13 AM
It's strange that your alk is so low and calcium and magnesium are so high without you dosing either element to the tank. Are you using the Red Sea coral pro salt you mentioned in your sps build thread as well?
If you are your salt looks like it reads funny.
I also see that despite sound advice about the anemone moving and being chewed up and you saying you've mitigated that risk but didn't state how, I'm curious what you're doing to lessen the chance of a disaster?
This would be kind of a cool tank to see thrive but like all good things they take time and patience. A lot of us here love our pets like most people love their dogs and cats.
I'd also be careful with what the zeovit guys are telling you on their forum. They do make a good product line but it's not the end all be all of the hobby and a cycle could take weeks depending on your unique tank. Give it a lot more time to mature before diving into the world of anemones as well. They tend to be very particular about lighting and water stability, just like sps are.
These are animals lives here and patience will do some good in long term success with them.
Flanders
02/10/2017, 09:09 PM
Honestly, this tank in its current form is a disaster waiting to happen. My advice is to keep it simple, ditch the zeovit, get a decent skimmer and shield your vortech so the anemone doesn't get destroyed. Even the skimmer could be optional with common sense and good husbandry, but I've never even heard of anyone using zeovit without a skimmer.
Adding the one and only fish going in this tank which is a Phantom Clown.
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Quick update here for everyone! Fish is doing well. So are the two snails I have. Diatoms from the initial cycle are gone and algae is to a minimum. Will be adding the Nem this week.
I have the sponge on my MP10 ready to go: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170227/4bbd2a11563dc0aafa3283dbd3d1c412.jpg
I also installed four nylon screws into the overflow that stick out far enough in an effort to prevent the nem from covering the overflow and flooding the tank. Got these at Home Depot. They are #10.
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ReeferDash
02/27/2017, 07:26 PM
I, for one, am very interested in seeing how this tank does.
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Bassguy13
02/27/2017, 07:44 PM
Can you post pictures and a little story behind your Tupperware/ tub setup? Really interested
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I, for one, am very interested in seeing how this tank does.
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Thanks.
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Can you post pictures and a little story behind your Tupperware/ tub setup? Really interested
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Do you mean the ATO container next to the tank?
https://www.containerstore.com/s/storage/decorative/mondrian-storage-boxes-with-lids/12d?productId=10036979
The ATO is: http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/smart-ato-micro-120p-auto-top-off-system-autoaqua.html
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Bassguy13
02/27/2017, 07:51 PM
Ohh neato. I thought it was a sump. I was thinking about making a sump out of something like this
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Ohh neato. I thought it was a sump. I was thinking about making a sump out of something like this
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Ah no. The sump is in the back. All I run is a filter sock, live rock, bag of carbon and ZEO lite, and a heater. No skimmer or reactors.
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Bassguy13
02/27/2017, 08:13 PM
How did you handle your algae bloom?
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How did you handle your algae bloom?
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I dose ZEO Bak, ZEO Start and SpongePower. I used mostly dead rock with a small amount of fresh clean live rock and dead sand. Once the algae bloomed after a few days it was gone. ZEO is good like that.
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Bassguy13
02/27/2017, 08:23 PM
I dose ZEO Bak, ZEO Start and SpongePower. I used mostly dead rock with a small amount of fresh clean live rock and dead sand. Once the algae bloomed after a few days it was gone. ZEO is good like that.
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Hm I should check ZEO out once
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Hm I should check ZEO out once
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Just a disclaimer, i use it on my display and it makes the tank beautiful. Really low nutrients and I feed heavy.
It does take time
To dial in, like anything.
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Update everyone. The carpet came in today. He's beautiful! A bit bigger than advertised but looks amazing and super healthy. After doing some reading online, I literally floated the bag (as it came with barely any water) for 15m then dropped it in. No real acclimation process. After 10mintues or so of floating around the tank he anchored himself to the rock, then crawled down it to the sand bed where he shoved his foot between the rock and the sand. Wedged himself even deeper and is probably now anchored go the glass on the bottom. I dont mind him redecorating.
Black egg crate was placed on the plastic screws that I mounted on the overflow as well as over the MP10 so he can't get stuck to them from the bottom.
What was even more amazing is after two hours, the clownfish realized that he had a friend, and buried himself in the nem. Now he won't leave. It's super cute. Here's some pics
First introduced:
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Finding a spot:
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This could work:
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Don't mind me just coming through:
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If I fits I sits:
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Oh yeah, that's the spot:
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Oh, hi friend:
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Tomorrow I'm due for a carbon change. Friday is testing day, and on Saturday I'll be installing some float switches and a Neptune breakout box to make sure that I would be notified if either the nem covers something and floods the tank or if the ATO fails.
Enjoy!
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ReeferDash
03/02/2017, 02:41 PM
Oh, hi friend:
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Happy Friday'
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Added another safety feature to the Nem Nano today. A float switch that will trigger if the water level gets too high in the tank. If the Nem were to ever cover the overflow, this would shut off the return pump and text/email me. The powerheads would remain on for flow until I could get to the tank.
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Here's some pics for you guys a month later! Everything alive and eating well.
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Sounds really fun. I had done a nano 6 gallon with Aqua Clear 200. Dremeled the lid for the HOB, did Weekly Back to Back (1/2) Tank Changes. I used 5 Gallon Bucket, Cooking Measuring Cup, Instant Ocean 50gal Bag for a while! Declor (Right On), Dkh Buffer by Kent (Right On), 2 Caps NovaAqua(2xDosage) for added slimecoat with aloe vera okay too, Kent's Marine C( 1/2 dosage), Shave Lab Block, Iodine (3-4x). Each bucket, first lighter on Marine C, Iodine. Exact on second bucket change. No sense wasting chemicals. Sponge on intake of Aquaclear!
The Gold Stripped Marron Clown Loved The Rose Anemone.
Long story Split with these water changes and little feeding clown. Little flake, strained mysis and we'll portioned feedings.
Nice! Yeah I'm just dosing ZEObak, ZEOstart, and SpongePower from KZ and doing weekly water changes. I don't have a need to dose any buffer solution because the WC will replenish any dropped Alk/Ca/Mag.
evokid511
05/01/2017, 06:41 PM
Do you mean the ATO container next to the tank?
https://www.containerstore.com/s/storage/decorative/mondrian-storage-boxes-with-lids/12d?productId=10036979
The ATO is: http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/smart-ato-micro-120p-auto-top-off-system-autoaqua.html
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question for you, I'm looking into getting this same ATO but I'm curious as to how far the water level has to drop before the pump is activated? like a measurement, 1/8", 1/4", 1/2" ??? any ideas??
rockhead51
05/01/2017, 08:38 PM
Evokid,
My guess is about 1/4", tops.
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evokid511
05/02/2017, 07:57 AM
Evokid,
My guess is about 1/4", tops.
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that is about what i was expecting, thank you!
tank looks great, love the carpet
Fish_wiz2
05/04/2017, 11:47 AM
Any updates? Definitely following this, I have a small empty nano I want to do something similar with.
Any updates? Definitely following this, I have a small empty nano I want to do something similar with.
Yep. Everything is happy. Here's a picture from the end of last month. It's officially been three months since I added the anemone.
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The crab isn't having a good time. He lost a claw in his last molt so he's been laying low.
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question for you, I'm looking into getting this same ATO but I'm curious as to how far the water level has to drop before the pump is activated? like a measurement, 1/8", 1/4", 1/2" ??? any ideas??
I have no idea but my guess would be 1/2"
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Quick update for those interested: All is well in anemone land.
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Jadams
08/03/2017, 07:34 AM
Super dope!! :thumbsup:
Super dope!! :thumbsup:
Thanks!!
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Picture from today. Everyone is happy. Nem is showing off. He moves frequently it's fun to watch him push his rock around. I wonder if he knows he's in a box. Will probably upgrade this tank size in a few months.
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Got some more pics for everyone. Two days ago he tried to escape, kind of. He crawled up the back wall covering the overflow. Good thing I have two safety features. An egg crate guard covering the overflow as well as a switch that if the water level gets too high it will trip. Luckily I was at work when this happened because I got to sit and watch it. I didn't try to move the nem I wanted to see if all of my planning would pay off. It did. Once he tripped the alarm the water level dropped since the return shut off. When he got a taste of the air he crawled back down.
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Ohh neato. I thought it was a sump. I was thinking about making a sump out of something like this
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I plan on a small upgrade to this tank in the coming months and one of them includes building a sump out of a container like this. Stay tuned!
Hi, Everyone.
So it's time... time to build this Nem a bigger home. It's been over a year since he's been living in this glass box, and although a challenge and looked amazing... I feel it's time they get a bit more swimming room.
Started a Nano Upgrade build thread here: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2671044
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