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gfox2
02/05/2017, 08:40 AM
How can i remove unwanted Texas Trash palys from my live rock in my reef tank?
billdogg
02/05/2017, 08:56 AM
Very carefully, with gloves and eye protection!!!!
gfox2
02/05/2017, 09:17 AM
Can you just pull them off the rock with gloves on and they won,t come back?Biggest problem is that there are about 3 anemones on the same rock
GimpyFin
02/05/2017, 09:49 AM
Paly's are fairly resilient, IME. They can be hard to get off the rock to where they don't come back unless you remove the rock to work on it. I'd try and tickle the anemones off or use an ice cube near the base to see if you can detach them so you can remove the rock. As Bill mentioned, unless you are sure they aren't a toxic variant, definitely be careful when handling them.
mandarin417
02/05/2017, 10:45 AM
I sealed mine under a layer of reef expoxy and then cover that with other zoas.
themagicman
02/05/2017, 10:47 AM
I just used a pair of scissors and cut them as close to the base as I could. The remaining tissue was then smothered with epoxy. It took me a few weeks to get all of them, but they're gone now.
gfox2
02/05/2017, 11:20 AM
I just used a pair of scissors and cut them as close to the base as I could. The remaining tissue was then smothered with epoxy. It took me a few weeks to get all of them, but they're gone now.
Can you do all that in tank?Have 3 anemones on the rock also.
themagicman
02/05/2017, 11:47 AM
I did, but a water change was performed right after. No problem.
gfox2
02/05/2017, 11:51 AM
Paly's are fairly resilient, IME. They can be hard to get off the rock to where they don't come back unless you remove the rock to work on it. I'd try and tickle the anemones off or use an ice cube near the base to see if you can detach them so you can remove the rock. As Bill mentioned, unless you are sure they aren't a toxic variant, definitely be careful when handling them.How do you know if they are toxic?These are about the size of a dime and green.
gfox2
02/05/2017, 11:52 AM
I just used a pair of scissors and cut them as close to the base as I could. The remaining tissue was then smothered with epoxy. It took me a few weeks to get all of them, but they're gone now.What type of product is reef epoxy?Where do you buy it from?
slief
02/05/2017, 11:54 AM
Get a Klein's Butterfly fish. It will make quick work of them but any other Paly's will be fair game too.
slief
02/05/2017, 12:00 PM
How do you know if they are toxic?These are about the size of a dime and green.

Pretty much all zoanthids have palytoxins in them and the common brown/green ones are documented to be very dangerous if mishandled. If you do a Google search for "palytoxin and zoa" you will find lots of info including an article to a Reef Build**s article that I can't link to.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog/palytoxin-containing-zoanthids-can-temporarily-or-permanently-blind-you
themagicman
02/05/2017, 12:21 PM
What type of product is reef epoxy?Where do you buy it from?

The JB WaterWeld epoxy seems to be pretty popular. This can be found at most hardware stores. Just make sure you knead it properly before you apply it.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/J-B-Weld-Waterweld-Epoxy-Stick/16627432
gfox2
02/05/2017, 12:42 PM
Get a Klein's Butterfly fish. It will make quick work of them but any other Paly's will be fair game too.Will torches,hammers,frogspawn be fair game to the Klein Butterfly?Seen on LA that it will eat soft corals and leathers.Nice looking fish.
gfox2
02/05/2017, 12:44 PM
The JB WaterWeld epoxy seems to be pretty popular. This can be found at most hardware stores. Just make sure you knead it properly before you apply it.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/J-B-Weld-Waterweld-Epoxy-Stick/16627432So this stuff is reef safe?
themagicman
02/05/2017, 12:48 PM
Yes.
GimpyFin
02/05/2017, 07:03 PM
How do you know if they are toxic?These are about the size of a dime and green.

There's also a decent article here that I've found has some good info:

https://reefs.com/2015/09/14/the-dangers-and-myths-of-zoa-toxicity-part-1/
gfox2
02/05/2017, 07:11 PM
There's also a decent article here that I've found has some good info:

https://reefs.com/2015/09/14/the-dangers-and-myths-of-zoa-toxicity-part-1/Thanks for the article.
gfox2
02/05/2017, 08:14 PM
I just used a pair of scissors and cut them as close to the base as I could. The remaining tissue was then smothered with epoxy. It took me a few weeks to get all of them, but they're gone now.If i cut these in the tank will it release toxin in the tank?
themagicman
02/06/2017, 10:34 AM
It might, but like mentioned above I did a water change right after and didn't have any problems. I was careful not to butcher the polyps in the process though. I would pick and choose which polyps I would be cutting and then gave them a quick snip.
slief
02/06/2017, 10:50 AM
Will torches,hammers,frogspawn be fair game to the Klein Butterfly?Seen on LA that it will eat soft corals and leathers.Nice looking fish.

I had pair of Kliens Butterfly's in my reef and the only thing they ever touched was the zoa's. The lest all my other coral alone including Hammers, Leathers, Fingers, SPS etc. I had got them for Majano's but they preferred the Zoa's so I caught the pair and sent them to a tank that was infested with Aiptasia. The decimated the Aiptasia population in a matter of a week which made the customer very happy. Having said that, as with any butterfly, there is a risk. Having a fish trap can come in handy if they become an issue.
gfox2
02/06/2017, 10:51 AM
Maybe when i do decide to cut them maybe do it in 2 or 3 phases.One of those corals you regret putting in the tank.For years they were held at bay with anemones around them keeping them closed up.It was a coral that i won at a frag show.
docstach
02/06/2017, 04:18 PM
Depending on how many you have you can also inject them with a little kalk. Within a day or two they shrivel up and disappear. Only need a little so you should not mess up your chemistry.
tkeracer619
02/06/2017, 09:39 PM
They sent me to the hospital... I'd rather have broken both my legs.
slgcmg
02/07/2017, 12:28 AM
Will aiptasia x take them out?
homer1475
02/07/2017, 06:12 AM
Will aiptasia x take them out?

I would say yes. In my last tank I controlled some very fast growing nuclear green palys by using aiptasia X. Squirt some into their mouths and all around the disc and they will shrivel up and die.
gfox2
02/07/2017, 08:04 AM
They sent me to the hospital... I'd rather have broken both my legs.What happen?
slgcmg
02/07/2017, 06:30 PM
I would say yes. In my last tank I controlled some very fast growing nuclear green palys by using aiptasia X. Squirt some into their mouths and all around the disc and they will shrivel up and die.

Gfox2, if you go this route, turn off your pumps and do a few at a time. Run a poly filter and carbon while doing this as well.