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Preparing Rock
There are several sources for rock: ideally it should be limestone or old coral, and have a LOT of holes, like swiss cheese: this offers more surface area. You need about 2 pounds of this sort of rock per gallon of tank–but this is tricky: not all rock weighs alike. Look at the rockwork in pix on this site and get a good idea how many pieces of what size you need. Also—use ro/di or at least ro water—filtered water that has 0 mineral content: you’ll use that for your tank on setup, and there’s no good gained by soaking your rock in water that’s already caryring a lot of what you don’t want.
1) Rock from another tank. If it is still fresh and not been out of water for more than 24 hours, it’ll probably be fine. You will have instant importation of various marine life—I got a load for a 50 gallon tank, and counted 52 species that survived a cycle, including a bit of bubble coral, xenia, and of course the obligatory aiptasia (pest anemone) and some asterinas (mini-starfish that are not a problem in an sps or lps tank: soft coral tanks may want to pick those out.) You take your chances on this sort of rock, but if it’s been in a successful tank, good things will outnumber the bad. If the donor is merely breaking down a successful tank in a house move, it’s your bonanza of life. If the donor went out in a tank crash or was overrun with something nasty, definitely move to step 2.
2) live-but-barely rock suffered in shipping or came from a troubled tank. THIS I would ‘tub’ in the dark in 80 degree 1.024 salinity agitated salt water for two months before use. This will pretty well kill off nastiness and leave you with brown bare rock. You can use a Rubbermaid Brute trash can or something with a garbage can liner, and just give it a heater and a fairly strong pump. Eheims are good small workhorses and can later serve as a salt mixing pump or water-change pump. Or you can use what will be your sump skimmer: just let it do this job. However—if your skimmer isn’t really moving the water, you need a more potent pump. You don’t want dead spots in the circulation. Do water changes weekly and also test your water to be sure it’s staying at 1.024. Test for phosphate and if you’re getting a reading, you might as well start running GFO in a reactor right now. The water changes will ordinarily be enough.
3. Dry rock. You CAN put it all into the tank and wait 12 weeks for a cycle, but I don’t recommend it. Use process 2. Tub it with at least one actual live rock you’ve bought from a store or gotten from a friend. Two months in the warm salty circulation will turn it into live rock. Now—WHY? Because dry rock may contain other elements like phosphates, and the long soak will let this soak out, while it also picks up a load of bacteria from that small live rock you bought. Can bacteria-in-a-bottle speed this process? Probably a bit, but part of what you’re doing with dry rock is letting water seep deep, deep, deep into the rock—along with bacteria, which are tiny enough to get there. Crack open a rock that’s been in a river or an ocean—and you won’t find it dry and dusty inside. That’s part of the process you’re replicating here. Dry rock is sometimes a source for phosphate. Be sure not to use metal-bearing rock like volcanic stuff, etc. Limestone is safe. Holes are good. One big massive no-holes rock is not as efficient as a number of smaller ones.
4. Man-made rock: yes, it works fine. Put it through the same process, water changes, et al. Test for phosphate. And just keep going.
Next, your sand: I’ve never personally used live sand. I use CaribSea aragonite medium grain (the very fine sand may look pretty, but it blows about and irritates fish and kills corals). Washing this sand for a hundred gallon tank involves two five gallon buckets, a garden hose, and an all day operation, before you are rid of the milky white dust that comes with this sand. Wash about four cups at a time. And just keep running water until the sand is clean. It is a nasty, cold, wet number of hours. Yes. It is.
Dxpert
02/05/2017, 05:43 PM
Great write up!
ashish
02/06/2017, 01:24 PM
My current system is 10+ years and b/c of the vermid snails (tube worms or whatever), I can't use any of the LR to seed my tank. I ordered 40LB of Reef saver rock just so I don't have to deal with phospates later. I do however, have 1 large piece of white pukani rock that has been sitting in the sun for 8 years that never been used - which is gorgeous piece and has to be used. - I really doubt this will cause problems but we'll see its only 10Lb.
In addition, I have maybe 5LB of rock from my display tank that i Had to have in my new setup. I bleached it this weekend and on the fence if I should use it or not. I hope it has no die off after bleaching.
coralmoral
02/07/2017, 10:27 AM
I would not recommend reintroducing a rock that has been bleached. If you want to use it, be sure to wash it as thorough as possible; but, do not expect it to still be "live".
Goubli
02/07/2017, 11:03 PM
This is an interesting write up. My current situation is I got about 65-70 pounds of Tonga with most of it borderline unusable due to shapes. I got it out of a tank that was shutting down, but it was infested with large bobbit worms which I did not want.
I dried the rock out in the sun for a few days then let it sit dry in a container for a few weeks. I started to cure it last week and did one 50% water change after about 3 days just due to smell. Ammonia as of yesterday was around 0.75.
I ordered dry pukani and Fiji and now have that in my possession. I haven't started to cure it yet. I'm trying to figure out when is the best time to superglue it together for aquascaping. Is it before it gets wet?
My plan was to probably get the bulk of the curing done out in the garage and then move the rock into the display (acting like a large water change) & then finish it in there with my skimmer running. It's been probably 12 years since I've had to do this process, so I'm trying to make sure I'm doing it right. I'm not really putting much (essentially zero) lighting on the rock until it would go in the display. I realize I'll need to add some live sand and at least one or two "live" rocks to the mix to get it going, right?
When should I add this? What alterations should I make?
You can add the one 'live' one right at the start of cycle. It'll be about 12 weeks before the rocks really can carry a bioload, even if fully cured: it's a slow process---colonizing rock takes a while, for crawly things as well as bacteria. Start your first fish in qt some four weeks or so before tank is ready and try to keep fish additions to one or two a month: AND don't try to qt two fish at once unless a mated pair. QT tank size is the issue.
I'm about to start a cure using dry rock and ammonium hydroxide (clear ammonia) to replicate die off. I used this method to shorten the cycle time in previous tanks by keeping ammonia consistently high during curing. I plan on keeping notes this time around to see how long it takes.
Goubli
02/08/2017, 08:00 PM
What about gluing the rocks together? I need to use some of the wet rocks for final rockscape but not sure how best to go about it. I really don't have a container large enough to do the full cure in except for the tank. So I can't really fix the larger rocks together until they go into the display tank.
What would you do as far as this situation is concerned?
The other issue is that the curing rock doesn't smell good and I can't have that smell in my living room. I've never really fixed/glued rock together before, nor have I worked with dry rock. The main reason I dried it all out was to get rid of aiptasia and the bobbit worm.
Will having the skimmer running while curing in the display help with the smell?
Not really. Clear a closet and do it in there with the door shut: water changes will help eliminate it.
I don't glue any of my rock and I have about a hundred odd pounds of it. Once you have water in the tank, a little skill and practice can usually build them into a stable structure. If you have a lot of little pieces, superglue gel can build them into larger shapes.
organism
02/24/2017, 05:29 PM
In addition, I have maybe 5LB of rock from my display tank that i Had to have in my new setup. I bleached it this weekend and on the fence if I should use it or not. I hope it has no die off after bleaching.
It will only have die off after bleaching since everything died when you bleached it.
JayHoe
03/13/2017, 10:26 PM
I'm more on a UK board and only occasionally on here. I have just bleach bathed and acid bathed 60kg of Pukani...
lR_LPFo8wbY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR_LPFo8wbY&t=195s
HTH!
JayHoe (UK)
Georb
03/14/2017, 03:21 PM
Just rinsed off 15kg for my new 30 gallon.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170314/3f473e5544939761ce2a6d9a295db826.jpg
Going for this scape.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170314/363b663c649715eaa48426edb8ea4cce.jpg
Then 6 weeks of waiting [emoji19]
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Ihuntbugs
03/14/2017, 09:22 PM
That looks good!
JLund
03/27/2017, 05:16 PM
I am starting a 80 gallon tank soon, I have a small bio cube with about 15-20 pounds of rock in it... I want to use it in the new tank but I don't want to bring whatever pests might be in it. Would curing it work? What would you guys reccomend?? Thanks
Georb
03/27/2017, 05:34 PM
I have read everything from boiling to dumping it in a bucket of vinager. I just went out and bought rock that has 0 chance of creepy crawlies. It isn't live got it from brs, their value rock and just started fresh yeah it isn't live but I know there isn't anything that comes with it. Less expensive too. If you have the time throw it in a brute with a strong powerhead and just cure it for a few months. I haven't done this but alot of the pros here recommend this method
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CButkos
03/28/2017, 10:46 PM
It is a nasty, cold, wet number of hours.
Truer words have never been spoken
mindi
03/30/2017, 08:28 PM
Preparing Rock
There are several sources for rock: ideally it should be limestone or old coral, and have a LOT of holes, like swiss cheese: this offers more surface area. You need about 2 pounds of this sort of rock per gallon of tank–but this is tricky: not all rock weighs alike. Look at the rockwork in pix on this site and get a good idea how many pieces of what size you need. Also—use ro/di or at least ro water—filtered water that has 0 mineral content: you’ll use that for your tank on setup, and there’s no good gained by soaking your rock in water that’s already caryring a lot of what you don’t want.
1) Rock from another tank. If it is still fresh and not been out of water for more than 24 hours, it’ll probably be fine. You will have instant importation of various marine life—I got a load for a 50 gallon tank, and counted 52 species that survived a cycle, including a bit of bubble coral, xenia, and of course the obligatory aiptasia (pest anemone) and some asterinas (mini-starfish that are not a problem in an sps or lps tank: soft coral tanks may want to pick those out.) You take your chances on this sort of rock, but if it’s been in a successful tank, good things will outnumber the bad. If the donor is merely breaking down a successful tank in a house move, it’s your bonanza of life. If the donor went out in a tank crash or was overrun with something nasty, definitely move to step 2.
2) live-but-barely rock suffered in shipping or came from a troubled tank. THIS I would ‘tub’ in the dark in 80 degree 1.024 salinity agitated salt water for two months before use. This will pretty well kill off nastiness and leave you with brown bare rock. You can use a Rubbermaid Brute trash can or something with a garbage can liner, and just give it a heater and a fairly strong pump. Eheims are good small workhorses and can later serve as a salt mixing pump or water-change pump. Or you can use what will be your sump skimmer: just let it do this job. However—if your skimmer isn’t really moving the water, you need a more potent pump. You don’t want dead spots in the circulation. Do water changes weekly and also test your water to be sure it’s staying at 1.024. Test for phosphate and if you’re getting a reading, you might as well start running GFO in a reactor right now. The water changes will ordinarily be enough.
3. Dry rock. You CAN put it all into the tank and wait 12 weeks for a cycle, but I don’t recommend it. Use process 2. Tub it with at least one actual live rock you’ve bought from a store or gotten from a friend. Two months in the warm salty circulation will turn it into live rock. Now—WHY? Because dry rock may contain other elements like phosphates, and the long soak will let this soak out, while it also picks up a load of bacteria from that small live rock you bought. Can bacteria-in-a-bottle speed this process? Probably a bit, but part of what you’re doing with dry rock is letting water seep deep, deep, deep into the rock—along with bacteria, which are tiny enough to get there. Crack open a rock that’s been in a river or an ocean—and you won’t find it dry and dusty inside. That’s part of the process you’re replicating here. Dry rock is sometimes a source for phosphate. Be sure not to use metal-bearing rock like volcanic stuff, etc. Limestone is safe. Holes are good. One big massive no-holes rock is not as efficient as a number of smaller ones.
4. Man-made rock: yes, it works fine. Put it through the same process, water changes, et al. Test for phosphate. And just keep going.
Next, your sand: I’ve never personally used live sand. I use CaribSea aragonite medium grain (the very fine sand may look pretty, but it blows about and irritates fish and kills corals). Washing this sand for a hundred gallon tank involves two five gallon buckets, a garden hose, and an all day operation, before you are rid of the milky white dust that comes with this sand. Wash about four cups at a time. And just keep running water until the sand is clean. It is a nasty, cold, wet number of hours. Yes. It is.
agree all the above....but a question. I am about to build a new tank and transfer my existing rock. I have previously killed Aiptasia on individual rocks by pouring vinegar over the infected area in the kitchen sink...then returning to the tank after a few minutes. The acid does kill the Aiptasia, but I wonder if I also killed all the bacteria inside the rock..? So I am not sure how to best deal with the Aiptasia in the opportunity the transfer presents.
This is a result of not maintaining my long term attention with Aiptaisa-X...once it proliferates you just cant get back in control with spot killing. Self inflicted injury...and the excellent Copperband Butterfly I have introduced has only eaten a few small ones.
Hoopdeez
04/04/2017, 07:23 PM
Thanks good info here!
whyamisofly
04/06/2017, 09:44 AM
I have about 400 pounds of dry rock that I would like to start cycling - some of it had nasty stuff on it, hence the reason I dried it out.
Do I need to bleach or acid bath it, or should drying it out for several months be enough? I do NOT want this crap in my tank when the time comes.
Neptune22
04/11/2017, 08:05 PM
Can any tell me if this light is ok for lps and soft corals, i will probly upgrade it later, but for now i am thinking of getting the beams work evo clip 3watt led light, for a 5 gallon, with primarly lps coral
choss
05/27/2017, 11:54 AM
I have about 120 lbs of old live rock that has been sitting dry for 15 years. I recently gave it a nice muriatic acid bath and am now soaking it in a Brute in RODI water. I'm checking for phosphate (.21 and .23 readings about 6 weeks apart) and have a small pump and GFO in a bag in the Brute.
I'm still debating whether I will use this for my new build but I am wondering do I need to be curing the rock in salt water instead of just RODI water? My goal is to get the phosphate out at this time.
DWattheBay
05/29/2017, 04:42 PM
Thanks for the awesome write up. I have about 100lbs or so of live rock that has been sitting for about two years. It came out of my 75 gallon that crashed do to an uncontrollable seaweed infestation which was introduced into my tank as just a mere 1/4 inch long. Nothing would touch it i.e. Crabs, tangs, snails etc. I just kept picking and cleaning and it finally overran. But my question is how should I treat the rock? Because I can see dried out flakes or strands of the seaweed on the rock? I've brushed some of and have a few smaller rocks soaking in a five gallon bucket of water with a splash of bleach. Any solid advice?
Bma1972
06/13/2017, 10:00 AM
I have about 120 lbs of old live rock that has been sitting dry for 15 years. I recently gave it a nice muriatic acid bath and am now soaking it in a Brute in RODI water. I'm checking for phosphate (.21 and .23 readings about 6 weeks apart) and have a small pump and GFO in a bag in the Brute.
I'm still debating whether I will use this for my new build but I am wondering do I need to be curing the rock in salt water instead of just RODI water? My goal is to get the phosphate out at this time.
Just keep finding it out in fresh RODI. when Your getting close to seeing up you can try to start cycling it in salt water, but it's probably easier to cycle it in your tank and do a regular start with leave sand, maybe a few new pieces of cycled rock, some table shrimp. But rinsing it several times is the best way to clean it out. After 15 years of being dry, you just need to blow off the dust[emoji12]
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Bma1972
06/13/2017, 10:01 AM
Thanks for the awesome write up. I have about 100lbs or so of live rock that has been sitting for about two years. It came out of my 75 gallon that crashed do to an uncontrollable seaweed infestation which was introduced into my tank as just a mere 1/4 inch long. Nothing would touch it i.e. Crabs, tangs, snails etc. I just kept picking and cleaning and it finally overran. But my question is how should I treat the rock? Because I can see dried out flakes or strands of the seaweed on the rock? I've brushed some of and have a few smaller rocks soaking in a five gallon bucket of water with a splash of bleach. Any solid advice?
Pressure washer and then dunk in and out of 5 gallon buckets of RO water to shake em clean
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DeepBlueSea
06/13/2017, 02:03 PM
Day 47 - Still have slight ammonia reading even though, shrimp or ammonia has been added in over 2 weeks. Must be die off. Nitrite is reading between 2-4 on a Salifert test kit. Nitrates are between 50-100 (Salifert)
Can't get the photos to display.
Punchanello
06/13/2017, 11:48 PM
A lot of man-made rock products don't claim to have the same properties as reef rock such as being porous or capable of housing denitrifying bacteria. Is it necessary to cure it?
mfin77
08/25/2017, 09:28 PM
Do I need an air stone to cure the rock. Or is the bacteria anaerobic? I'm not using a skimmer just a pump to move water. Thanks
Ihuntbugs
08/28/2017, 07:17 AM
I would use a heater too. And keep curing. Definitely put somewhere there is no light to starve of unwanted pests. I did this for about 4-5 months. Killed everything off my rock.
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I recently cleaned old live rock that had dried up from a previous tank. I did a chlorine bath and then soaked and rinsed several times with fresh RODI. I currently have the rock in a trash can with about 10 lbs of new live rock from an established tank. I also used water out of the same established reef. Now all I have going is a power head to move water.
Do I need to do anything else to get this rock ready? I plan on moving into my display in a couple weeks and let it finishing the cycle there.
Should I add some light to jump start coraline?
jbsengineer
10/10/2017, 07:36 PM
3. Dry rock. You CAN put it all into the tank and wait 12 weeks for a cycle, but I don’t recommend it.
I'm curious why not? I'm starting fresh and don't mind putting 100+ of pukani is a trash can to cure or in the display tank. I struggle what the difference is between the two since I will do a complete water change either way. Thoughts?
SFKINNC
10/16/2017, 08:32 AM
I’m setting up a new 32 Gallon Bio Cube. This will be my first reef tank. Previous marine tanks back in the 70s and early 80s used UG filters and dead coral skeletons that had been bleached. I have some leftover pieces of coral skeletons. I also have some porous rocks that were taken from beaches on the Atlantic coast. Both of these have been used as decorative pieces in my garden and will be washed. I was hoping to use these along with some live rock, dry sand from Petsmart, and maybe some GARF grunge to liven things up a bit. I could use advice on how to do this. Also, any ideas on a good current source for good quality live rock? Thanks!
wbond
11/29/2017, 01:54 PM
I'm questioning what I should do here. I took rock out of my tank this spring. I left it outside to dry out and it has since been sitting dry in my basement. Do I have to cycle this in a container with a heater and power head or could I rinse it and put it in my sump? There is some dead coral on it.
DeepBlueSea
11/29/2017, 01:58 PM
I'm questioning what I should do here. I took rock out of my tank this spring. I left it outside to dry out and it has since been sitting dry in my basement. Do I have to cycle this in a container with a heater and power head or could I rinse it and put it in my sump? There is some dead coral on it.
How many pounds??
I’d throw it in a tub, heater, powerhead and a shrimp to cycle it. Let the dead stuff cook off before placing it into the system.
wbond
11/29/2017, 02:02 PM
Thanks for the reply. I'm looking at about 10lbs at most.
How many pounds??
I’d throw it in a tub, heater, powerhead and a shrimp to cycle it. Let the dead stuff cook off before placing it into the system.
SFKINNC
11/30/2017, 07:44 PM
All the dead stuff that dried on your used to be live rock, has to be removed or it will poison the tank’s inhabitants. That means you have to cure it away from the tank just as if it were new.
All the dead stuff that dried on your used to be live rock, has to be removed or it will poison the tank’s inhabitants. That means you have to cure it away from the tank just as if it were new.
Agreed... i just finished bleaching my rock to remove organics and am now in the process of rinsing through RODI to leach out phos and and lingering bleach smell.
i will then dry the rock and start aquascaping
Jefftopgun
01/01/2018, 12:19 AM
Planning on upgrading from a 100 with close to 100 pounds of rock to roughly a 250 gallon display with 65 gallon sump. I have a few questions.
I plan on doing a flatworm exit, a peroxide, and some sort of freshwater or bayer dip as I transfer the rock. The exit would be of course for my small flatworm problem. Peroxide would be to get the hair algea from the spots I just can't reach, and Bayer / freshwater for the bristle worms that have decided to take over (I started with 3x acid bathed and 2x bleached rock, and bought 1 friggen rock from LFS holy hell).
Will any of this affect the bacteria in the rock? I don't really want to do a full 12 week cycle before I can start slowly moving fish over, my heaters, pumps, and powerheads, even half my lights are all moving over with me. Which means I'm not running both at the same time (well within a few days of each other at least).
Any ideas?
ddckec6972
01/25/2018, 11:02 PM
so question. i t seems pretty simple but im still a bit unclear. my tank is been set up and cycling for 1 week. 20 lbs live sand and about 40 lbs of cured live rock...
i found a person that tore down their tank, no way to prove it to be true, anyway. his rock was live with corals 9 days ago from today, rock was placed in 5 gallon bucks of tank water for three days, and now have been out of the water for 5 days now. i contacted him and asked about the rock and he said it is now dry rock cause its been out of the tank. what should i do with this rock? he says since the time frame out of the tanks water i could just simply..get some soft brushes and clean the rock really well then add....
is there a rule of thumb for live rock that has been out for only a few days,
choss
01/26/2018, 07:54 AM
I just finished bleaching and acid bathing my rock. Its sitting in warm RODI with some GFO running. First PO test showed .12. What should I target to get it down to before adding to the tank?
choss
01/29/2018, 08:25 AM
Second test today and its down to .03. Is it possible the rock is that clean at this point that I can safely add it to the tank?
Second test today and its down to .03. Is it possible the rock is that clean at this point that I can safely add it to the tank?
I am going through the same process. What I would do is remove the GFO and see if it creeps back up. Goal is to get it to 0 and for it to stay there without gfo. I will be testing every 3 days on mine to watch it for a rise, at which point I will start GFO, and once I see it back to 0 and stay there I will remove the gfo and check it again a few days later to see if it stayed at 0. if it did, into the tank it goes. if it doesnt, more gfo and retry in a week.
also, whats more important than phosphate is ammonia. if your bucket shows no ammonia or nitrite and only nitrates, it would be safe to add as its showing all has died off and decayed.
Vlad 1.026
02/22/2018, 08:27 AM
Good execution!
choss
02/23/2018, 08:26 AM
I decided to add the rock to the DT but run it there without lights and measure. I will add some live rock and chaeto this weekend. Watch measure, repeat until I am convinced that all is good. Taking this slow in any case
Carwin
03/20/2018, 07:32 AM
I shut down my reef tank 4 years ago and I'm starting up again. I saved my rocks so I have about 100 lbs of rock that has been sitting in a tub in my garage for those 4 years.
What do I need to do to prepare it for use again in my new 90 g tank, which I am in the process of filling with water (that slow drip of the R/O!).
For the moment, I've put the rocks in a 20 gal brute in my basement with saltwater, a heater and a pump for flow. They've been in there for 12 hours now so I know I'm at t he beginning of the process.
Recommendations for next steps? Thanks.
wilsonreefs
01/19/2019, 03:20 PM
I'm curious about a idea I have. I've never liked the fact that the sand under a rock eventually ends up black due to poor circulation. This in turn causes the water to become foul. I have put rock on the bare bottom and put the sand in afterwards. Sand always ends up under the rock. I have a shallow bed of sand (was a deep bed). My thoughts are to build racks out of 1/2" diameter PVC to raise the rocks off the bottom about 3/4". The sand should be able to cover the piping. This would allow sand sifting critters to actually get under the rocks. What do you guys think?
Vinny Kreyling
01/19/2019, 06:03 PM
Some have done this & been successful.
Systemwizardinc
05/24/2019, 05:39 PM
just got about 100lb of rock for a 100gl tank do you think thats good
TopDogFish
07/29/2019, 01:31 PM
I need to sell my live rock.
whiterushen
10/04/2019, 11:14 AM
I inherited 40 lbs of cured live rock and 40 lbs of dried dead rock. I did not use any chemicals, bleaches or RODI water when cleaning the dead rock. I cleaned and scrubbed the rock in salt water 1.025, then let it sit in a tank with no light. Of course in a few days, my dead rock went through the rotten egg smell stage a few days--- i scrubbed the rock the following weekend and one more weekend in salt water. I used fluval cycle in extreme doses, and began introducing light and put it into a tank that was still cycling. After 4 weeks, I installed a couple of starter fish for a few weeks---in 5 weeks the old dead live rock was fully cycled. I swapped both the good cured live rock with the recently repaired rock 50/50---both tanks are now cycled and look great. I have one tank for my LPS and zoa garden and one tank for my SPS.
curtisd57369
05/25/2020, 08:14 PM
I have a 90 gallon tank that I am trying te get rid of some un wanted coral can it be taken out of tank for a few days scraped and put back in tank a piece at a time or will it cause to much of a cycle.
Vinny Kreyling
05/26/2020, 09:07 AM
As long as you do it slowly it will be OK.
Axel33
10/01/2020, 04:25 AM
I think the best way would be to cure the rock in a barrel with now light. Only bubler and heater. What do you guy's think?
dochoot
11/04/2020, 09:40 PM
I'm curious about a idea I have. I've never liked the fact that the sand under a rock eventually ends up black due to poor circulation. This in turn causes the water to become foul. I have put rock on the bare bottom and put the sand in afterwards. Sand always ends up under the rock. I have a shallow bed of sand (was a deep bed). My thoughts are to build racks out of 1/2" diameter PVC to raise the rocks off the bottom about 3/4". The sand should be able to cover the piping. This would allow sand sifting critters to actually get under the rocks. What do you guys think?
I did this and it worked great. Lots of extra caves etc.
Toddah
03/29/2021, 11:23 AM
I have a new aquascape I built out of dry rock I purchased from a reefer getting out. I was in a plastic crate out in his yard for an unknown period of time.
I am starting a new IM 40 NUVO AIO from scratch and was looking for the best way to give this rock formation a head start.
I bleached the whole pile of rock in a Brute garbage can for a week in 1.5 gallons of pure bleach to about 20 or 25 gallons of water, rinsed it well then left it sit in my driveway for a few days to evaporate the Chlorine out of it.
It no longer has a bleach smell at all.
I bought a plastic tub big enough to [place the aquascape in and was planning on submerging it in RO/DI with some form of seeding material while I remove the carpeting from my mancave and install waterproof flooring, get the tank in place and plumb and wire the Apex, water change equipment, ATO and all the associated tank stuff.
I know I can just get a chunk of live rock from my LFS or use "live" sand as well as bottled copepods, and other little bugs and crustations. I have been out of it for almost ten years and am looking to see if there are any better routes to take.
The tank will go through a full initial cycling period without lights after the aquascape is installed. I am not in a hurry at all. Figure late summer/fall before I start seriously stocking anything
I was planning on a bare bottom (never done that before in all my other tanks) but thinking bare bottom with dead rock was too extreme and I would be forever in crappy tank purgatory waiting to achieve some balance in the biosphere so I think I will be using sand after all.
Any good advice to help me get this thing off the ground on solid footing?
Vinny Kreyling
03/29/2021, 04:35 PM
Best Bet--- If you can get a piece of live rock from a store or hobbyist to seed the tank.
Toddah
03/29/2021, 06:16 PM
Best Bet--- If you can get a piece of live rock from a store or hobbyist to seed the tank.
Thanks Vinny:fun2:
Salma
12/16/2021, 10:17 AM
I am starting a 80 gallon tank soon, I have a small bio cube with about 15-20 pounds of rock in it... I want to use it in the new tank but I don't want to bring whatever pests might be in it. Would curing it work? What would you guys reccomend?? Thanks
You can use UV light to clean all the pests on the rock before reuse the rocks,the is the best method but Becarefull turn the uv light and stay way from it might cause cancer if you exposed to it for longer time.
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