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Vdubin00
02/07/2017, 02:39 PM
Well I picked up this tank stand canopy , and 2 gen 3 pro radions for $1k ,, the guy said it was a 75g, although in convinced it's bigger then that I actually think it's a 90g , the dimensions are T x H x W 48x26x22 roughly give or take 1/2" due to the top and bottom trims ,, that seems closer to a 90 rather then a 75 ?? Correct me if I'm wrong ,, anyways the guy is going to school didn't have time for it the radions are only 1 year old,, the wood and tank he bought used ,, tank seems like it's in pretty good shape I think I might try to re polish the viewing panel for clearity or install a low iron pane up front for around $120 ,, undecided yet on that ,, I have started on wood work ,, I'm refinishing all the wood, and staining it a red mahogany color and using a semi gloss polyurethane top coat ,, don't want a ton of gloss ,, I started to stain with just a rag ,, and didn't like the consistency or lack there of , so I sanded down the stand (which I had stained while it was lying on its back, dumb *** move cuz everything ran, it looked like **** ) so I started over and im using 80 grit sand paper on all the wood ,, followed by 220 to finish,, I'm going to be using my Wagner sprayer on the rest of it ,
Here is the tank as I picked it up from the guys house (I discarded the sand , learned my lesson on my first tank NEVER USE USED SAND ) maybe some of you have had good results with it , I didn't and I won't ever trust used sand again !!! Anyways
Here's original setup
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/5920307fb6f8e050604b45d9320e3e11.jpg

Here's what my garage has turned into a sanding bay and paint booth
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/5a94cb9bcd9ed704d298dc2f4b511b20.jpg

Hers the progress I've made re sanding the stand https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/ce054d644960d3e940b354071b5304ea.jpg

Here's the door and the first attempt using the Wagner sprayer and I will say if kept and a good distance and the trigger set to low paint,, it did AMAZING !! If you see the door on the right looks good , and the canopy door on the left looks crapy , I didn't sand the canopy door very well ,, I'll be going back over it with 80 grit then 220 grit
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/becadd24766fd91f8f7903f19649766f.jpg
As you can see my garage is in project mode
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/580fcd2d7834a994832973dc47e47982.jpg

So I'll be updating this as I go , I'd really appreciate anyone's feed back ,, I might just get crickets ,, but that's ok ,, so here's the start of my 75 or 90 reef build !!



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SFish
02/07/2017, 07:34 PM
I like the stand. Is that a stain your putting on it or paint?

Vdubin00
02/08/2017, 04:02 PM
Stain ,, red mahogany "minwax" stain


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Vdubin00
02/08/2017, 04:13 PM
I got around to drilling the tank , so the bottom was already drilled once for a single over flow and had the return come over the top of the tank ,,I want safety and piece of mind in case of emergency,, so I drilled 2 more holes for 1" bulk heads one for main overflow one for emergency overflow in case 1st one fails , and one for the return line ! Making progress slowly but surely

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170208/7a47f348d9f50430b1813bc20402206b.jpg
For those of you curious about drilling it's quite easy , I used a plastic bottle with a hole in the lid to keep water on the bit along with some pb blaster ! Worked great ! Took me about 15 minutes per hole taking my time

What do you guys think should I replace the bottom piece of particle board on the stand it looks a lil wrapped and kinda smells like mold or mildew ?

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170208/fa1e47331182cd5ea91850ba582bac2c.jpg

Here's one of the inside bottom of the stand,, it's starting to crack

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What do you guys think replace it ? My brother owns a counter top shop so I'm thinking of having him making me a laminated piece to go on the bottom so the sump can sit on it and be level and the wood can be protected from moisture I can't find nail holes where this thing is connected I'm thinkin it's glued in


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Vdubin00
02/08/2017, 04:14 PM
Oops I posted two of the same pictures here's what bottom of the stand looks like https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170208/396dd004ec291ef640641c5ca19897c3.jpg


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SFish
02/08/2017, 05:00 PM
Stains can be a pain. I went through a few pieces of oak plywood myself when I stained the wrap for my stand. I'm sure there must be tricks but my stand is the only thing I've ever stained. I like them better then paint through.

Vdubin00
02/08/2017, 05:01 PM
Yeah it sure can I've had to sand a couple things cuz I didn't like how inconsistent the stain turned out


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Vdubin00
02/08/2017, 05:01 PM
I should say re sand


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SFish
02/08/2017, 05:08 PM
To be honest I lack the experience to really say. I had pieces that end up with odd spots that I couldn't seem to get rid of and that was with raw plywood.

SFish
02/08/2017, 05:13 PM
I'm totally confused about the tank size maybe I'm figuring it wrong but wouldn't it be

27456 in3 = 119gal

Vdubin00
02/09/2017, 08:43 AM
So I messed up on the dimensions! It's supposed to be 48"L X 26"T X 22"W ,, I'm not sure ! I'm going to re check tonight I'll let you know !!!


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Vdubin00
02/09/2017, 08:47 AM
So last night I got around to ripping off the bottom of the stand !!! Good thing I did cuz it was all moldy and full of mildew !! I'll be buying a new pre laminated sheet to replace it with
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I'm glad I decided to replace the bottom ,, I'm actually really impressed by how this stand was built ! It had like wood shims cut and glued almost like a dowel would into the bottom piece and the sides ! Very very structurely sound !!! I'm gonna enjoy putting it back together ,,



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Vdubin00
02/09/2017, 08:49 AM
Hahaha so never mind the duct tape wrapped around the end of the hammer ! Haha I took a lil piece of cloth and duct tapped it around the head of the hammer cuz I guess I kept waking up my son my wife said,, I needed to be quieter cuz it was late,


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SFish
02/09/2017, 10:22 AM
So I messed up on the dimensions! It's supposed to be 48"L X 26"T X 22"W ,, I'm not sure ! I'm going to re check tonight I'll let you know !!!


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The order doesn't matter because your multiplying. You probably have more like a 100gal something tank. In any case it doesn't really matter.

Vdubin00
02/09/2017, 11:28 AM
Haha ! Well dang !! That's crazy !! Thanks for the heads up sfish !!! Also I had an arrival from BRS.com show up today I'll post about it in a bit


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Vdubin00
02/10/2017, 09:43 AM
Well my 6 stage universal plus RO/DI Unit arrived yesterday !! Someone once said owning a reef tank is basically caring for a tank of water ,, that's it ,, it's all about maintaining water ,, so I bought the best RO unit I could ,, although I should've just spent another $20 and got the water saver add on ,, but it's ok I'll buy that add on later ,, https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/835937e4894585e8513345d1ec91db62.jpg

I also made more progress with the stand ,, I bought some 3/4" malamine ( I think that's how you spell it ) at Home Depot last night to replace the bottom panel and the two back panels of the stand because they were moldy abs smelled like mildew ,, so I drilled and dowelled the back sides cuz I don't have a biscuit joiner but oh man I'd love to have one !! And I glue everything ,, I had to use the strap to keep everything square !! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/e7943d3281c1ab15a0519eb66d361f69.jpg

More updates coming soon thanks for following my progression !!


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SFish
02/10/2017, 12:35 PM
I'm tempted to say just build your own stand but after spending the money I would be trying to save the stand as well. As far as the bottom you could just put some plywood there and paint it with water resistant paint or deck paint.

Good choice on the RO/DI filter.

Vdubin00
02/12/2017, 04:56 PM
I'm tempted to say just build your own stand but after spending the money I would be trying to save the stand as well. As far as the bottom you could just put some plywood there and paint it with water resistant paint or deck paint.

Good choice on the RO/DI filter.



Surprisingly,, the price of the piece to replace the bottom was $25 , at Home Depot so actually not that bad of a price !!

I have already installed the bottom piece and it went back together awesomely !!! I'll
Post pic tonight !!



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Vdubin00
02/14/2017, 03:45 PM
Ok so I forgot to take a picture of the new bottom of the stand ,, but I got everything stained ,, and I'm in the process of getting everything ready to spray on the top coat polyurethane
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Vdubin00
02/24/2017, 08:50 AM
So 3rd times a charm right ? Well I didn't like how the poly went on so I ended up sanding everything back down AGAIN !!! This is the third attempt !! So anyways sanding by hand in those hard to reach places is kind of a pain in the *** so I found this thing on google saying to make your own sanding block with some foam , 150 g sand paper and some spray adhesive ,, being that I have hard to reach sanding spots on this stand I gave it a try , so spray some adhesive either on the stand or the paper and place it over the area you want to mold your foam to, I used a putty knife to wedge the paper in tight to fit corners ,, also i used the super flexible anti clogg sand paper ,, and then rub your piece of foam over it till you get your custom sanding block then spray the sand paper to the sanding block and boom tight crevis sanding block here's how mine turned out https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170224/20f050190af9603234be6c5c0e74e6c4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170224/2ce248db551ccdc784866860b8df9f7b.jpg



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Vdubin00
03/04/2017, 06:05 PM
Alright well everything is sanded down and first layer of poly has been laid down https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170305/187f79e002f9009bf951f70665efcbb0.jpg
So we're on our way once again !!!
Also I took some measurements of the tank , it's 48x18x24 LxWxH so it's a 90 gallon for sure !!

I'm actually kind of ****ed cuz I got looking at the tank today and realized there are some possible gnarly scratches in this thing !! And I'm gonna be super bummed if they won't buff out with cerium oxide ,, if they don't I guess I'll just have to install low iron glass =\ ,, I mean it's great and all but it sets me back that much more !! Patients patients right !?!


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mad city fish
03/05/2017, 07:34 AM
Looks really great. I love the stain color you're using. I have a 75 set up with very similar finish. I am looking for to following you progress.
Steve

mad city fish
03/05/2017, 07:35 AM
Looks really great. I love the stain color you're using. I have a 75 set up with very similar finish. I am looking forward to following you progress.
Steve

SFish
03/05/2017, 10:08 AM
Post if you get the scratches out. I've read from most people that you can't.

SFish
03/05/2017, 10:13 AM
Looks really great. I love the stain color you're using. I have a 75 set up with very similar finish. I am looking for to following you progress.
Steve

I think dark stains look really good on wood.

Vdubin00
03/05/2017, 01:07 PM
Thanks steve ! I like the color too,, other then a couple of newbie mistakes I think it's gonna turn out really good !!! Thanks fish !! I'll keep you guys posted !! I've got the tank flipped upside down to help support the canopy so I can't reach my hand in to feel if I can land a fingernail inside the scratches !! But I'll definately keep you guys posted !! So stain and polyurethane newbie mistake #1 make sure everything is completely dry !! So being this my third time laying down stain on this thing I got just a hair inpatient and when I went to lay down the polyurethane it lifted some of the stain that hadn't soaked in completely !!
Mistake #2 don't use foam brushes from harbor freight !! Use the ones from homedepot ,, mistake #3 clean all of your surfaces !! And keep them clean ! And DO NOT , repeat do not dip your brush in the stain can ,, pour it into another container and dip from there !! Lessons learned !! I spray painted my first reef tank stand and my freshwater 125 ,, so this is my first experience with 2 part stain and poly !! Hopes this helps someone !! Will keep y'all posted


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SFish
03/05/2017, 04:15 PM
What's 2 part stain? I just used a rag on mine worked perfect.

Vdubin00
03/05/2017, 07:26 PM
So you use stain , then after it has dried you put 3 coats of polyurethane top coat on it ! To protect it , they make an all in one stain that is nice but the two part looks better I think


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Vdubin00
03/05/2017, 07:30 PM
So I finally got my radions cleaned up and ready to go ,, they were pretty dusty from the previous owner ! But they look pretty good now I think https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170306/1d7ffdae11e8e63f3bde97bd002c997c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170306/2c5eea0c2aa9c8364a87b709db28f48e.jpg


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Vdubin00
03/06/2017, 08:47 PM
Here's my quarantine setup ! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/11cfa91c78f996cc446d87b6ab5e28d3.jpg
I'll use my coralife dual t5 fixture to go over the tops of these


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SFish
03/07/2017, 01:57 AM
If your planning on keeping the tanks right there I would move that outlet. At the very least I would change it to a GFCI.

rum_pride
03/07/2017, 03:42 AM
I too like the dark stain, very good looking build. I can't wait to see more.

Vdubin00
03/07/2017, 05:09 AM
If your planning on keeping the tanks right there I would move that outlet. At the very least I would change it to a GFCI.



Fish great thinkin !!! So it is required by the IRC (international residential building code) that unfished rooms that have outlets shall be protect by gfci,, AND in a mechanical room your required to put at least 1 GFCI close to the furnace (for servicing ) so I'll have to go check it with my checker, it's possible it's on a gfci circuit , and the reset is just over on the other wall !!! Thanks fish,, geez don't I feel stupid,, I'm even a building a building inspector for the city and I forgot to check that,, tunnel vision I guess =\


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Vdubin00
03/07/2017, 05:09 AM
I too like the dark stain, very good looking build. I can't wait to see more.



Thanks !! I'm getting excited too !!


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homer1475
03/07/2017, 07:56 AM
Not sure but when you replaced that bottom piece of wood on the stand, did you buy marine grade plywood? It will resist mold and rot from the water.

If not I would at the very least silicone the corners and paint the inside with some nice epoxy paint(rustolium makes an appliance epoxy paint that works well) so spills are a breeze to cleanup and will not soak into the wood. On second thought I would silicone and paint the interior anyways even if you used marine grade plywood.

Looking good so far. :thumbsup:

Vdubin00
03/07/2017, 09:21 AM
No I used melimine (that white laminated wood you use for shelves) I found a double sided sheet at Home Depot so the bottom is laminated and inside the stand is laminated , and I will be using silicone just for extra precaution ,, I was rushing and didn't take pictures of the bottom install =\


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Vdubin00
03/07/2017, 09:22 AM
Not sure but when you replaced that bottom piece of wood on the stand, did you buy marine grade plywood? It will resist mold and rot from the water.

If not I would at the very least silicone the corners and paint the inside with some nice epoxy paint(rustolium makes an appliance epoxy paint that works well) so spills are a breeze to cleanup and will not soak into the wood. On second thought I would silicone and paint the interior anyways even if you used marine grade plywood.

Looking good so far. :thumbsup:



Thanks for the heads up I haven't stained the inside of the stand yet I thought about it ,, I also replied to your question about the bottom check the top next comment up


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Vdubin00
03/07/2017, 09:24 AM
Not sure but when you replaced that bottom piece of wood on the stand, did you buy marine grade plywood? It will resist mold and rot from the water.

If not I would at the very least silicone the corners and paint the inside with some nice epoxy paint(rustolium makes an appliance epoxy paint that works well) so spills are a breeze to cleanup and will not soak into the wood. On second thought I would silicone and paint the interior anyways even if you used marine grade plywood.

Looking good so far. :thumbsup:



This is the stuff I used , sorry I've replied so much =\ https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/86825be264f81d3438c07c41f1cc1e18.jpg


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homer1475
03/07/2017, 09:28 AM
Not stain, but actual paint! Epoxy paint is whats preferred. Just make sure you give it a few days to dry and off gas.

Stain will not block water from entering the wood, and since you used melamine, any water will make it literally fall apart.

Melamine is basically sawdust glued together to make a board, and typically coated with vinyl sheets to protect the used sides. If water enters the unsealed sides, it swells and falls apart. It's great stuff, and strong as h*ll if it's kept dry.

homer1475
03/07/2017, 09:29 AM
It's your thread, reply all you want.

Unlike some people, I read back to the last post I read. Not just the topic or last post in a thread.

homer1475
03/07/2017, 09:31 AM
FWIW....

Even though that has a coating on all sides(assuming you didn't need to cut it at all), water can and will find its way between the top/bottom coating, and the sides.

It's not a bad product, but I would never use it anywhere it has the chance to get wet.

Vdubin00
03/07/2017, 09:37 AM
Oh geez well good thinking about the paint !! So your right on the swelling the original bottom was only one sided and so it swelled up so bad It went from 3/4" to 1" I was asking around for 1" melamine [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] and what I think happened is that when water spilled on the ground it was on (which was tile) I ran under the stand and it just soaked it up ,, and caused mold and mildew !! So now the new stuff I putt on is double sided now the bottom which will be in contact with my carpet will be protected ,, but I like the idea of Latex paint on the inside !! Maybe I'll paint the inside white !! White will look dope !!!!! Thanks homer !!!!!


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homer1475
03/07/2017, 09:45 AM
White inside also helps with seeing whats going on in there. Painted my stand white and everything is super easy to see with even minimal lighting.

Personally I would not use latex paint as it can still allow water through. Use an enamel, hard finish, super shiny, water proof, long lasting, and spills will wipe right up. Latex has a tendency to rub off after a while.

Overall it's your tank and you do with it what you want. I'm just throwing out some ideas I've used and read on other build threads.

Vdubin00
03/07/2017, 09:58 AM
White inside also helps with seeing whats going on in there. Painted my stand white and everything is super easy to see with even minimal lighting.

Personally I would not use latex paint as it can still allow water through. Use an enamel, hard finish, super shiny, water proof, long lasting, and spills will wipe right up. Latex has a tendency to rub off after a while.

Overall it's your tank and you do with it what you want. I'm just throwing out some ideas I've used and read on other build threads.


I really appreciate that !! So should I try to use like krylon spray paint ? Or is there s brush on paint I could use (I don't have much experience with paints other than rattle cans)



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homer1475
03/07/2017, 10:02 AM
I used this and have seen it used in a few build threads.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-Specialty-1-qt-White-Gloss-Appliance-Paint-Case-of-2-241168/202058574?cm_mmc=Shopping%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-BASE-PLA-D24-Paint%7c&gclid=CLuWmKHvxNICFQaHswodSigLtw&gclsrc=aw.ds

They do make it in a spray can, but I found using a roller much faster and cleaner looking.

1qt was plenty for 3 coats on my 80G stand.

Vdubin00
03/07/2017, 10:11 AM
I used this and have seen it used in a few build threads.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-Specialty-1-qt-White-Gloss-Appliance-Paint-Case-of-2-241168/202058574?cm_mmc=Shopping%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-BASE-PLA-D24-Paint%7c&gclid=CLuWmKHvxNICFQaHswodSigLtw&gclsrc=aw.ds

They do make it in a spray can, but I found using a roller much faster and cleaner looking.

1qt was plenty for 3 coats on my 80G stand.



Oh cool !! Ok I'll give that a try ! Thanks for the heads up !!


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SFish
03/07/2017, 01:13 PM
I was thinking of using pond shield my self. They use it to make plywood aquariums.

https://youtu.be/dS6AJL3CAt0

SFish
03/07/2017, 01:18 PM
Ok at that price never mind

Vdubin00
03/07/2017, 01:34 PM
Ok at that price never mind



Haha is poly shield pretty expensive ?? If it came in white I'd consider it ,, I like the idea of having white in the sump area


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SFish
03/07/2017, 01:42 PM
Looks like $60 to $75

Vdubin00
03/16/2017, 09:21 PM
Hey so what do you guys think if I add another hole in my bottom glass ??? My bottom glass in 1/2" thick ,, I'd add a 3/4" hole in between these two 1" bulkhead holes ,, I have this 3/4" bulkhead marking the position I'd install it https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170317/f8d4c2ebb216a6722252569455ab227f.jpg
I don't think I'll have any trouble with strength cuz I have 1/2" glass at the bottom what do you guys think ? Think I can do it safely ? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170317/5496ddcb63b33f219915eb681ee8f7b1.jpg


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SFish
03/17/2017, 11:12 AM
Looks like you have 3 holes already why do you want another one?

Vdubin00
03/17/2017, 01:03 PM
Because I'd like 2 main over flows instead of one , so 2 main overflows 1 emergency and one 3/4" hole for the return I want everything coming through the bottom so I can push this tank as close as I can to the wall


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SFish
03/17/2017, 03:20 PM
Don't know if it's safe to drill another hole that close. Think it's supposed to be 2x from the center apart.

http://gmacreef.com/drilling-holes-bulkheads-glass-aquarium-tanks/

SFish
03/17/2017, 03:30 PM
It's a personal preference but I would think of a way to cover up that overflow. Overflows that run from the bottom tend to stand out. Maybe you could make a rock wall out of it.

Vdubin00
03/18/2017, 12:21 PM
It's a personal preference but I would think of a way to cover up that overflow. Overflows that run from the bottom tend to stand out. Maybe you could make a rock wall out of it.



I personally like this overflow style a lot !!


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SFish
03/18/2017, 12:52 PM
I'm more of a ghost overflow style fan myself. If my rocks weren't made I would be putting that in. For me I want the things that I put in the DT to take up as little space as possible.

Vdubin00
03/20/2017, 08:07 AM
I'm more of a ghost overflow style fan myself. If my rocks weren't made I would be putting that in. For me I want the things that I put in the DT to take up as little space as possible.



I get that , I personally like the fact that I can push my tank right up against the wall almost giving the perception that it's built into the wall


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SFish
03/20/2017, 11:34 AM
I'm going to put my 2 part and ATO containers behind the stand my self.

SFish
03/20/2017, 12:05 PM
You going to run a manifold?

Vdubin00
03/20/2017, 02:58 PM
Yes I will be running a manifold ,, https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/21f210652a33c5888b1f4b6d20fcdd40.jpg
Here is the setup getting ready to drill the 4th hole I was talking about and everything was successful I now have 4 holes cramped in my overflow tower to make for a beananimal hybrid/my style overflow and one 3/4" return line ,, I'm pretty stoked about my setup !! Now if only my deep scratch kit from eBay would arrive I could start removing some scratches !!


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SFish
03/21/2017, 02:58 PM
Be interested to how you set up your Herbie overflow. Everything I've seen uses 1 1/2" PVC. Do you need those U's (2 90's) on top of all the pipes?

SFish
03/21/2017, 03:01 PM
Not sure yet but I think I'm going to use 1" gate valves for my manifold. How are you going to connect to yours? I'm going to use barb fittings on mine.

Vdubin00
03/21/2017, 03:05 PM
I'll be using 1 1/4 for my stand pipes and 1" for my plumbing below like I said above a beananimal /hybrid/mystyle overflow

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170321/f0d7feb8e7b684d2ad568bdf39a80607.jpg
It depends on what I'm going to be connecting to my manifold bio pellets so far possibly a carbon and GDP reactor so probably barb fittings


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Vdubin00
03/28/2017, 08:05 AM
Well My deep scratch removal kit from eBay arrived last week, and in attempting to try and remove the scratches from the front pane of glass I stepped the glass creating a wave in the glass
Here is some of the scratches

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170328/3ba1caf688838c046da85a848d79d1ee.jpg
Here's getting started with the sanding
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170328/fbd1db9d64bcb89379fcd5afc9ce2ddc.jpg
After a while I mean 3 days I figured out I messed up the glass,, I pulled the front pane off the tank for replacement
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Then once getting the new piece ,, so I found out Thursday night I effed up the glass pulled the panel off and then Friday morning started calling around almost every shop told me they would have to call me back for a price and every shop said they were at least 3 days out !! Which sucked except for Dixon architectural glass in salt lake (which is about 45 min from where I live and work) they said they could have a 3/8" thick by 48"x 24" piece of glass ready by lunch time for me so I hauled balls down there for lunch picked up the new front panel I could not be happier
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Now here's the thing I want to talk to everyone about ! I want to show everyone how I attached my piece of glass I used a hybrid injection method / squash method and I recorded everything !! Unfortunately you'll have to watch them on YouTube there are 3 parts because I don't have video editing software

Part 1 https://youtu.be/I8gKltj4aV8

Part 2 https://youtu.be/tWr5TPsu0_w

Part 3 https://youtu.be/qAhx_p3SCSk

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Vdubin00
03/30/2017, 02:26 PM
Well I finally got the tank moved down in the basement with the back panel Painted https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170330/f1a77ac9fa684d2d3f5728706e4a1b1b.jpg
I think it turned out pretty good !!


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Vdubin00
04/06/2017, 08:26 AM
So I started adding a dedicated 120 v 20 amp circuit for the reef tank , I've got our tv our PS4 and my 120 freshwater tank all down stairs I don't want to over load the circuit
Here is the materials I picked up from HD , what is not shown here is my cable snake but you will need one if you want to do this
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Here the little area I'll be working in I got the location of the outlet marked with masking tape
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I was fortunate enough that my floor joists were running the right direction so I found that running a piece of pvc through the space then my cable snake through it worked out pretty good
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Here is we're my wife almost killed me ;) jk so one in the ceiling to catch the snake one hole at the top of the wall to direct the snake down the wall and to the left
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So here again I ran an extra piece of 1/2" pvc down and left diagonally down my wall over one stud to the hole for the outlet (this was the most pain in the *** step of the process
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Once I got the wire pulled through ,, you can chose to leave the pvc or take it out ,, I took mine out once I had the snake ready to pull the wire I just pulled the pvc out backwards
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Here I ran the wire back to my electrical sub panel luckily I had an extra tandem 20 amp circuit breaker already installed in my panel
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Extra breaker
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Then from here you connect your neutral ground and supply
Neutral
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Vdubin00
04/06/2017, 08:27 AM
Ground
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Supply
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Here's the new circuit wired up
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And here's wiring for the GFCI outlet https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170406/0260b244c915a9a61f0cd6e60015143e.jpg
Here's finished outlet in the wall
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Here's how I started to patch the wall ,, at first I used this method were you trace out the piece of Sheetrock you cut out and cut out 1 inch bigger then peel off the gypsum from the front paper so it doubles as your joint tape ,,
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I did the same thing for the ceiling and used a knock down knife to blend in my ceiling texture !
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Here's the first patch on the wall ,, because I've never don't this before I sanded down too far and actually had to cut another hole ,, and re patch it with joint tape ! I sanded that down too far and said screw it , it has paint on it currently but I'll fix it later cuz I'm getting kinda ****ed at it ,, lol here a pic of the first patch
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170406/2d2a0d4a92d42f088dedbfa71cc111e0.jpg
So anyway it's coming along !!
I received my sump from elite aquatics and I've started plumbing it I'll get pictures soon thanks for following guys !!!!


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SFish
04/06/2017, 10:36 AM
Now I know who to talk to when I start wiring my tank.

Vdubin00
04/06/2017, 10:38 AM
You mean wire an outlet for your tank


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Vdubin00
04/06/2017, 10:39 AM
Now I know who to talk to when I start wiring my tank.



See above


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SFish
04/06/2017, 10:46 AM
I need to change the outlet in the wall. I'm also wondering if there is a better way to set up under the stand. Right now I have 3 surge protectors.

Vdubin00
04/06/2017, 10:56 AM
It depends on what else you have on that circuit if you have multiple tanks on that one circuit that your tank is plugged into you are probably going to trip the breaker eventually,, if you want to just change out the outlet just change it to a GFCI,, I would leave the search protectors because if you're thinking of doing a bunch of outlet boxes and switches under the stand that's going to take up a lot of space it's going to be a lot of conduit and you're going to run out of room and you might as well just get it apex controller


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Vdubin00
04/06/2017, 10:57 AM
I need to change the outlet in the wall. I'm also wondering if there is a better way to set up under the stand. Right now I have 3 surge protectors.



Sorry man I keep forgetting to quote you so you know I'm talking to you but I will help you with whatever I can I have some electrical background because I am a building inspector


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SFish
04/06/2017, 02:36 PM
It depends on what else you have on that circuit if you have multiple tanks on that one circuit that your tank is plugged into you are probably going to trip the breaker eventually,, if you want to just change out the outlet just change it to a GFCI,, I would leave the search protectors because if you're thinking of doing a bunch of outlet boxes and switches under the stand that's going to take up a lot of space it's going to be a lot of conduit and you're going to run out of room and you might as well just get it apex controller


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I like the idea of Apex but at it's current price I more then likely won't be getting one. I guess I'll leave the surge protectors then.

Vdubin00
04/07/2017, 10:27 AM
I like the idea of Apex but at it's current price I more then likely won't be getting one. I guess I'll leave the surge protectors then.



Just save up for one, fish ,, I promise you won't regret it !! I won't ever have a tank without any apex ,, now there have been some really bad problems with the new apex ,, so it would be very wise to wait several months for the bugs to be worked out !! I had a classic apex on my 55 and loved it !! I'll never go with out !!!! Fish your pretty cool !! We've been going back and forth and I like it !!! Where you live ??


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Vdubin00
04/24/2017, 03:15 PM
So we our son had to have tubes in his ears ,, and I didn't want to deal with the payments so we paid cash for the procedure to get it over with so that's why I haven't posted in a while ,, however we have been working so overtime at work the past couple weeks and I went tax exempt this pay period so I can have all that money [emoji857][emoji857][emoji857] abs Wednesday is the day I'll be placing my order for the rest of the stuff I'll need to get my tank ready to cycle and then the next check I'll add the rest ,, but here's my sump huge shoutout to Tyler @Eliteaquatics https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170424/e5dd8764db93bd6391123b1d1217ba2d.jpg
He builds an amazing sump !! I'm super impressed with the worksmanship of this sump !! I'd buy these over trigger systems sumps any day !! Costs about the same too =\
Check em out www.elite-aquatics.net



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SFish
04/25/2017, 03:19 AM
Just save up for one, fish ,, I promise you won't regret it !! I won't ever have a tank without any apex ,, now there have been some really bad problems with the new apex ,, so it would be very wise to wait several months for the bugs to be worked out !! I had a classic apex on my 55 and loved it !! I'll never go with out !!!! Fish your pretty cool !! We've been going back and forth and I like it !!! Where you live ??


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Sorry didn't see your post I live in Wisconsin

SFish
04/25/2017, 03:21 AM
So we our son had to have tubes in his ears ,, and I didn't want to deal with the payments so we paid cash for the procedure to get it over with so that's why I haven't posted in a while ,, however we have been working so overtime at work the past couple weeks and I went tax exempt this pay period so I can have all that money [emoji857][emoji857][emoji857] abs Wednesday is the day I'll be placing my order for the rest of the stuff I'll need to get my tank ready to cycle and then the next check I'll add the rest ,, but here's my sump huge shoutout to Tyler @Eliteaquatics https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170424/e5dd8764db93bd6391123b1d1217ba2d.jpg
He builds an amazing sump !! I'm super impressed with the worksmanship of this sump !! I'd buy these over trigger systems sumps any day !! Costs about the same too =\
Check em out www.elite-aquatics.net



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Hope your kid is ok

SFish
04/25/2017, 03:25 AM
So we our son had to have tubes in his ears ,, and I didn't want to deal with the payments so we paid cash for the procedure to get it over with so that's why I haven't posted in a while ,, however we have been working so overtime at work the past couple weeks and I went tax exempt this pay period so I can have all that money [emoji857][emoji857][emoji857] abs Wednesday is the day I'll be placing my order for the rest of the stuff I'll need to get my tank ready to cycle and then the next check I'll add the rest ,, but here's my sump huge shoutout to Tyler @Eliteaquatics https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170424/e5dd8764db93bd6391123b1d1217ba2d.jpg
He builds an amazing sump !! I'm super impressed with the worksmanship of this sump !! I'd buy these over trigger systems sumps any day !! Costs about the same too =\
Check em out www.elite-aquatics.net

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How much did that sump set you back? There's no way I could justify the cost of a premade sump. It costs me probably $55 or $60 to make my main Sump.

dimasv
04/25/2017, 03:50 PM
Beautiful love the stain color following

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Vdubin00
04/25/2017, 03:56 PM
How much did that sump set you back? There's no way I could justify the cost of a premade sump. It costs me probably $55 or $60 to make my main Sump.



Thanks fish for your concern my son is doing good ,, Wisconsin sounds cool ,, this time around I didn't want to spare any expense !! I love my sump he's a local guy who builds them here in Utah it set be back about $500 and I picked it up locally


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Vdubin00
04/25/2017, 03:56 PM
Beautiful love the stain color following

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Thanks man !! It's coming along nicely


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SFish
04/25/2017, 05:18 PM
Thanks fish for your concern my son is doing good ,, Wisconsin sounds cool ,, this time around I didn't want to spare any expense !! I love my sump he's a local guy who builds them here in Utah it set be back about $500 and I picked it up locally


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I thought about making and selling sumps myself.

Vdubin00
04/29/2017, 06:57 PM
Well my order came from BRS , so I can get the rest of my plumbing installed ,, however BRS shorted me on a couple parts ,, which sucks , they came on a Friday and they close early ,, https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170430/89263dfbd11dcd8702cc563b759f71a7.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170430/81a8c18415413cb606639107fda79c70.jpg

I was able to get what I could plumbed last night
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and was able to get water in the tank to test the quietness of the system and it turned out awesome
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170430/caff9ad03dd56b1a67f14cf4105e2e22.jpg
Nevermind that red pipe sticking out the top , I wanted all the return line to pass through the overflow tower but the parts they shorted me were required to get the return line plumbed so I had to use my old style over the top to test the system but I'll call them Monday and see what they can do, all in all I'm really happy with how my system turned out !
Here's a video of how it turned out

https://youtu.be/gP0_6NiPBJ0



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SFish
04/30/2017, 02:34 PM
Very clean

SFish
04/30/2017, 05:04 PM
So how/where are you putting your manifold? I'm going to put mine on the upper back of the stand.

Vdubin00
04/30/2017, 08:33 PM
So how/where are you putting your manifold? I'm going to put mine on the upper back of the stand.



I'll probably be doing something similar


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Vdubin00
05/01/2017, 08:33 PM
So here's a video I created on my aquascape and how I made it,, check it out
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p0gHd27ErDU

Tell me what you guys think


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Vdubin00
05/02/2017, 11:45 AM
Here's some more pics showing off my plumbing https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170502/f25f2aea1206abddfbf3133f6c557914.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170502/3b1176a69fa886693c67ff2a1007d18e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170502/b40e50586029b01b808cad7afae0ff34.jpg
Also here's my aquascape , I think it's turning out pretty good
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170502/b40e50586029b01b808cad7afae0ff34.jpg
Thanks for stopping by guys leave some comments tell me what you guys think


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Vdubin00
05/05/2017, 01:23 PM
So I finally finished my plumbing https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170505/99f8fe639b3756a069f302a50b4a68a7.jpg


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SFish
05/05/2017, 03:13 PM
Where are u going to put your skimmer? Doesn't look like you have a lot of room left. The dreaded check valve ; 0. Looks like you are using ball valves. I would have went with gate valves. Easier to control. What size is your sump again?

Vdubin00
05/17/2017, 10:11 AM
Where are u going to put your skimmer? Doesn't look like you have a lot of room left. The dreaded check valve ; 0. Looks like you are using ball valves. I would have went with gate valves. Easier to control. What size is your sump again?



Fish I have plenty of room for a skimmer ,, also I like the cpex ball valves nothing I'm running will require as precise flow control that I'd need a gate valve ball valve will be just fine ,, my sump is a 30 gallon sump


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SFish
05/18/2017, 06:17 AM
I like to over size my pumps a little so if I want to add things later I can. Gate valves are much easier to dial things in with. If I remember they are also cheaper on BRS anyway.

SFish
05/23/2017, 12:59 PM
So I finally finished my plumbing https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170505/99f8fe639b3756a069f302a50b4a68a7.jpg


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How is your manifold attached to you sump?

Vdubin00
06/15/2017, 02:12 PM
Hello guys !! I'm very sorry for the long hiatus I've started cycling my tank , I started using Red Sea reef mature pro kit, i first cured my rocks in the tank , that's why I had cardboard around my tank to not grow any funky algea,, https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170615/9b6189213a5d755e9204dabf03386d9b.jpg
I had a ammonia issue with reef crystals and have since switched salts ,, https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170615/9ba1edbec633264c4807a360396b770a.jpg
I've been happy so far with RS coral pro salt I switched to
I have a video I'm going to be posting doing a review on my skimmer Bubble Magus curve A8 (D.C. Pump version of the curve 7)
I love this skimmer it is a plus one for my tank and it's perfect
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170615/6433a2c9b4c9c1f0af11a02566b7bf09.jpg
The tunability of this thing is absolutely incredible !! And silent !! This thing is so quiet I can barely hear it with the cabinet open !! So anyways here's an update of my tank it is cloudy be cause of the bacteria bloom (which is normal using the Red Sea mature program)
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170615/bea17c389afdf29373fbc3a50b3b130c.jpg
Thanks for stopping by !! Also Ive started a channel on YouTube "MntReefs" subscribe for more content I've got a bunch of stuff I'm gonna be releasing , showing my progress and some helpful tips along the way !! So thanks for stopping by !!
BTW sFish !!

Where are u going to put your skimmer? Doesn't look like you have a lot of room left. The dreaded check valve ; 0. Looks like you are using ball valves. I would have went with gate valves. Easier to control. What size is your sump again?


As you can see my skimmer fits perfectly in my sump https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170615/241901703b76fd409f17e43c8109b5aa.jpg


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SFish
06/15/2017, 04:42 PM
Did you drill the side of the sump to keep the manifold in place?