Red Sea's new reefer XXL 750 tank vs custom tank

[125mph]

Thinking about doing a 180gallon setup.. red sea has a new XXL tank that is about 180 gallons spec 71"x25.6"x23.6"... using 3/4" glass rimless .. pretty cheap at $2799 ish with a cabinet and sump..

When I got my 120G custom tank at 48x24x24, I paid $3K because of the 3/4" glass (at 1/2" glass eurobruced would have costed about $1200)..

So really, would I really notice the difference with a red sea xxl versus something like a reef savvy, coast to coast or miracles custom build? they will all use 3/4" glass.. i assume black silicon, etc... what else would be different? I 've seen the red sea reefer xl and they look pretty solid. I never seen a reef savvy tank though so I dont know if it's really that different.

[bif24701]

Thinking about doing a 180gallon setup.. red sea has a new XXL tank that is about 180 gallons spec 71"x25.6"x23.6"... using 3/4" glass rimless .. pretty cheap at $2799 ish with a cabinet and sump..



When I got my 120G custom tank at 48x24x24, I paid $3K because of the 3/4" glass (at 1/2" glass eurobruced would have costed about $1200)..



So really, would I really notice the difference with a red sea xxl versus something like a reef savvy, coast to coast or miracles custom build? they will all use 3/4" glass.. i assume black silicon, etc... what else would be different? I 've seen the red sea reefer xl and they look pretty solid. I never seen a reef savvy tank though so I dont know if it's really that different.



Depends. I like the fit and finish of a Red Sea tank/stand. However with a custom you can get unique features that you may or may not need. I think Red Sea stands are a huge advantage and beautiful. Epoxy covered wood, will never soak up water, warp, rot, or stain.


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[ReefCowboy]

I went with SCA because I wanted 60"x24"x24". The 525XL was still shy of production then, and I don't really like the smaller sump area of the reefer, split with the chiller/computer compartment.
As far as the tank itself, the reefer is as good as it gets IMO. Yes Reefsavy is top quality and one of a kind, but would I pay that much for the visual differences between that tank and a reefer? No.
Red Sea has those tanks being built with very attention to detail, I got to a store with some 350's by my house and stare at them for a long time amazed with the manufacturing and beauty.

The new Reefers seem awesome, and I would love to see the XXL 750 in person. I think you will be happy with that tank.

[125mph]

How about comparing just aquarium to aquarium... The new red sea xxl is 3/4" rimless... How would their craftsmanship compare to one of the big name custom builders like reef savvy and miracles?

My local shop has a red sea reefer 650 and it looks really nice, I can't imagine how it could get better. The seems were flawless and the glass was clear.

[125mph]

As far as the tank itself, the reefer is as good as it gets IMO. Yes Reefsavy is top quality and one of a kind, but would I pay that much for the visual differences between that tank and a reefer? No.
Red Sea has those tanks being built with very attention to detail, I got to a store with some 350's by my house and stare at them for a long time amazed with the manufacturing and beauty.



So if you had the reefer side by side with he reef savvy, would you know which was the reef savvy assuming they werent labeled? I'm trying to figure out what the visual difference would be.

[ReefCowboy]

So if you had the reefer side by side with he reef savvy, would you know which was the reef savvy assuming they werent labeled? I'm trying to figure out what the visual difference would be.

Reefsavy is a status thing. Yes it is a banging quality tank, but will you say "wow red sea's reefer looks inferior side by side".. I dont think so.

Im all about quality, but the difference in price is more at this point because of the signature.

[125mph]

Ok I'm decided and already convinced the wife.. gonna get the Red Sea reefer xxl 750!

Hope the price is about what the rumors show!


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[ReefCowboy]

Awesome, wonder when they will really start showing here...keep us posted

[CJP63]

I Beleive the $2799 price you see is for the 625xxl not the 750xxl.

[125mph]

I Beleive the $2799 price you see is for the 625xxl not the 750xxl.

Ya I just realized that.. Assuming the 625xxl is $2799, I can't imagine the 750xxl being more than 2999?

[JUNBUG361]

Imo i like the red sea. It comes near complete & with the center overflow design to make it a divider in a fish room or any where in the house. There having a introductory

[JUNBUG361]

Offer

[125mph]

Introductory offer? you mean on the XXL? It says spring.. gotta wait a few more months I guess?

[ReefCowboy]

$3k for a whole system with the quality of the reefer is insanelly good IMO. When I was looking at custom quotes for my 150 gal, $2,900 was common for tank only...stand add another $1,000, Sump+ATO+Doser another $1,200...

[makers marc]

Any specs on the size of the sump the xxl750 would have? Im guessing they all have a center, internal overflow?

[Jeremy257]

Ya I just realized that.. Assuming the 625xxl is $2799, I can't imagine the 750xxl being more than 2999?

So let's assume that the black xxl 625 costs $2799. Math says that the most likely minimum for a black xxl 750 will be $3399. They are identical dimensions except the 750 is a foot longer, or 20% longer.

[gcarroll]

$3k for a whole system with the quality of the reefer is insanelly good IMO. When I was looking at custom quotes for my 150 gal, $2,900 was common for tank only...stand add another $1,000, Sump+ATO+Doser another $1,200...Agee 100% Red Sea gives a whole lot for the money. Quality is top notch! I would put it on par with some of the best custom tanks.

[125mph]

So let's assume that the black xxl 625 costs $2799. Math says that the most likely minimum for a black xxl 750 will be $3399. They are identical dimensions except the 750 is a foot longer, or 20% longer.

Hmm I dont think the other reefer's are priced like that, not directly proportionally but maybe I'm wrong!

[Jeremy257]

Hmm I dont think the other reefer's are priced like that, not directly proportionally but maybe I'm wrong!

a white XL 425 is $2049, an XL 525's display tank is exactly 25% larger and it's price is a bit more than 25% greater at $2599. Having said that the glass on the 525 is slightly thicker than that of the 425 where the 625 and 750 have the same glass thickness... but I'd bet that my guess on the 750 is pretty close.

[125mph]

I went with SCA because I wanted 60"x24"x24". The 525XL was still shy of production then, and I don't really like the smaller sump area of the reefer, split with the chiller/computer compartment.
As far as the tank itself, the reefer is as good as it gets IMO. Yes Reefsavy is top quality and one of a kind, but would I pay that much for the visual differences between that tank and a reefer? No.
Red Sea has those tanks being built with very attention to detail, I got to a store with some 350's by my house and stare at them for a long time amazed with the manufacturing and beauty.

The new Reefers seem awesome, and I would love to see the XXL 750 in person. I think you will be happy with that tank.

What do you think of SCA vs the reefers? Would you have preferred the reefer? The SCA is euro-braced right?

[ReefCowboy]

What do you think of SCA vs the reefers? Would you have preferred the reefer? The SCA is euro-braced right?

I was strongly considerig the reefer 525XL. The only thing I dont like about them is the tower overflow, and the sump/stand compartments. I wanted a custom stand.

SCA caught my attention with the quality, and right before I ordered, they launched a rimless version, pre drilled to accomodate the 20" Synergy ghost overflow. The tank is 5/8" glass and very well finished. That was all I needed.
The new peninsula reefers seem like the way to go, as you can enjoy both sides of the tank. Here is my tank, as I was fitting the overflow.
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh583/Carlosjayme1/20170207_141444_zpsbgh9ma9q.jpg (http://s1253.photobucket.com/user/Carlosjayme1/media/20170207_141444_zpsbgh9ma9q.jpg.html)

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh583/Carlosjayme1/20161213_134140_zpscdk5yrdh.jpg (http://s1253.photobucket.com/user/Carlosjayme1/media/20161213_134140_zpscdk5yrdh.jpg.html)

[125mph]

I was strongly considerig the reefer 525XL. The only thing I dont like about them is the tower overflow, and the sump/stand compartments. I wanted a custom stand.


Did SCA do your stand too?

What are the dimensions of that tank. Looks nice!

I really like the reefer 750 XXL but I'd prefer a different stand. And stand+tank is only 58" tall... which is a little too low for my taste. My current tank is more traditional and I'd rather stay with cherry/walnut stand. I just emailed SCA to see about quotes on a rimless 180G.

If you dont mind me asking, how much was yours and how much was the stand?

[125mph]

pre drilled to accomodate the 20" Synergy ghost overflow. T


One other question.. when you use the synergy overflow, did you do the bean animal piping? Is that how everyone uses the synergy overflow?

[Wyattray]

The only thing with those types of overflows is the distance you must leave between the wall and the tank, so make sure your wife is fine with that. My wife did not approve of it and went with a different tank.

[125mph]

Funny... my wife hates the gap between the wall too.


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[ReefCowboy]

Funny... my wife hates the gap between the wall too.


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We are better off with a gap outside of the tank and an angry wife than a stupid overflow taking room from corals inside the tank!!lol

It is only 4". Still allows for super sharp set up

[Dropped]

I gave in and tried to please the other half by having an internal over flow.... never again. I can put up with the anger for a few weeks to have more space in the tank :)

[JUNBUG361]

Lol

[Jeremy257]

We are better off with a gap outside of the tank and an angry wife than a stupid overflow taking room from corals inside the tank!!lol

It is only 4". Still allows for super sharp set up

Couldn't agree more. Love that new tank of yours. Love it so much I just emailed SCA to inquire.

[ReefCowboy]

Couldn't agree more. Love that new tank of yours. Love it so much I just emailed SCA to inquire.

Thanks ! great to hear, let us know what you decide!

[LefkoNJ]

The red sea overflow I wish they had an option to drill for the synergy overflow, just the perfect thing for the peninsula

[125mph]

Couldn't agree more. Love that new tank of yours. Love it so much I just emailed SCA to inquire.


Funny, I thought I was going to go with SCA... but I sent out a few inquires... one to coast to coast and one to miracles..

Coast to coast was same price as SCA but the shipping and crating costed 30% more, ouch...

Miracles is the cheapest one by a lot! I guess I'm going with miracles.

[Jeremy257]

Funny, I thought I was going to go with SCA... but I sent out a few inquires... one to coast to coast and one to miracles..

Coast to coast was same price as SCA but the shipping and crating costed 30% more, ouch...

Miracles is the cheapest one by a lot! I guess I'm going with miracles.

Guess I'm scared now... I got some quotes from Miracles and Reef Savvy about a year ago. I decided I wanted to sell my house, move and then get a new tank. Anyway, the Miracles tank was a lot better price than the Reef Savvy but it was still far from cheap.

[Jeremy257]

I spoke to Steve at SCA. The 150 is the largest rimless that they currently sell as standard. It's a fair price and if you want to use a ghost overflow it's probably the way to go. If Steve confirms that the price he quoted me for a 60x30x24 version he can do.. it's totally worth the price and 10 week wait time.

[125mph]

I spoke to Steve at SCA. The 150 is the largest rimless that they currently sell as standard. It's a fair price and if you want to use a ghost overflow it's probably the way to go. If Steve confirms that the price he quoted me for a 60x30x24 version he can do.. it's totally worth the price and 10 week wait time.



Yes his 150 stocked rimless is a great price. Only issue I have with it is when I did my 120 build 6 years ago, no body would do it for less than 3/4" glass at 24" height. The sca rimless 150 is only 5/8" which is why the price is very reasonable.

So it would scare me but maybe 5/8 is enough.


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[ReefCowboy]

5/8" is what the reefer 525XL is also made of. SCA gives 3 years of warranty, so Im sure the tank hold just fine. A custom manufacturer quoted me doing 5/8" fromt and back and the sides in 1/2 for a lot of money, and he is a very famous builder here in NY.

[125mph]

5/8" is what the reefer 525XL is also made of. SCA gives 3 years of warranty, so Im sure the tank hold just fine. A custom manufacturer quoted me doing 5/8" fromt and back and the sides in 1/2 for a lot of money, and he is a very famous builder here in NY.

Ya I thinkt he reefer 525XL is 5/8" front but the sides are definitely 1/2".. I was looking at one at a LFS a few days ago and thought it was odd the glass was different sizes... but I guess they do that to save cost. On the RS site, they list glass thickness of "front" glass only.

[Jeremy257]

Elos' 160xl is made from 5/8" and it's 63x31.5x23.5 so I'm sure the SCA will hold up just fine.

[125mph]

Did u pull the trigger, jeremy?

[Jeremy257]

Did u pull the trigger, jeremy?

I'm still waiting to hear back from Steve on a 60x30x24. I really fell in love with the look of a wider tank when I saw an Elos 160xl again last week. I did receive quotes back on it from some other very well known tank builders today. They only want to do that size rimless in 3/4" which I understand but that glass is very expensive. I probably need to go with a normal width or give in to euro bracing. Thus far it appears Euro bracing will allow for 1/2" glass and cut the price in half, literally.

[125mph]

I'm still waiting to hear back from Steve on a 60x30x24. I really fell in love with the look of a wider tank when I saw an Elos 160xl again last week. I did receive quotes back on it from some other very well known tank builders today. They only want to do that size rimless in 3/4" which I understand but that glass is very expensive. I probably need to go with a normal width or give in to euro bracing. Thus far it appears Euro bracing will allow for 1/2" glass and cut the price in half, literally.

Yep, lots of the builders require 3/4" glass for 24" heights. But that seems to only be true for custom builders. Stocked tanks like ELOS, RS and SCA seem to be okay with thinner glass.

Straight from Reef Savvy's site:


What is the cutoff height for 1/2 glass on our rimless aquariums up to 24 wide?
1. 20″ high, up to 48″ long.
2. 17″ high, up to 60″ long.
3. 16″ high, up to 72″ long.

What is the cutoff height for 3/4 glass on our rimless aquariums up to 24" wide?
1. 24″ high, up to 72″ long.
2. 22″ high, up to 84″ long.
3. 20″ high, up to 96″ long.

[Jeremy257]

Yep, lots of the builders require 3/4" glass for 24" heights. But that seems to only be true for custom builders. Stocked tanks like ELOS, RS and SCA seem to be okay with thinner glass.

Straight from Reef Savvy's site:

Yeah, I don't know what I'll do now. I really wish I hadn't gone to look at tanks last week with the better half. She REALLY likes the way the Elos looks. She also likes the Reefer but not as much. To her the way the system looks is just as important (if not more) than whats in it. I may need to lower my target size expectations and just go with an AquaSole 120L. I can get it with a stand and sump for about the same price as a reefer xl 525 and their volumes are almost identical.

[Jeremy257]

Yeah, I don't know what I'll do now. I really wish I hadn't gone to look at tanks last week with the better half. She REALLY likes the way the Elos looks. She also likes the Reefer but not as much. To her the way the system looks is just as important (if not more) than whats in it. I may need to lower my target size expectations and just go with an AquaSole 120L. I can get it with a stand and sump for about the same price as a reefer xl 525 and their volumes are almost identical.

At least that way I'd get a 31.5" width.

[RichK]

Just found this thread. I was hunting tank manufacturers last year but never bit the bullet. As soon as I saw the ad for the new Red Sea XXL tanks, I'm hooked. The 750XXL is probably going to be my new tank. 3/4" low iron on 3 sides and to me, a great looking stand. I just want to see the sump area before I commit.

[125mph]

Just found this thread. I was hunting tank manufacturers last year but never bit the bullet. As soon as I saw the ad for the new Red Sea XXL tanks, I'm hooked. The 750XXL is probably going to be my new tank. 3/4" low iron on 3 sides and to me, a great looking stand. I just want to see the sump area before I commit.

It's 3/4" on the front but not guaranteed to be on the sides. The Reefer XL's listed on RS's site as 5/8" "front" glass and they do not list the size of their side glasses... but when I was at the LFS, its easy to tell the sides are 1/2".

RS's site does the same with the XXL. It lists "front" glass only with no mention of the sides. I bet the sides of the new XXL are either 5/8" or 1/2". Probably wont make a difference to your viewing pleasure but worth noting how they bring costs down.

[TX_Punisher]

Bringing this back up.

I, too, am in the same boat and have researched many of the same builders. I also see the REd Sea larger tanks coming, but do not see a release date. I've seen some of the smaller systems of theirs in person and am fairly happy with them. I've also contacted SCA but am not happy with their short stands. I also contacted him about a 60" by 30" by 24" like some others here. I hadn't considered the Elos but I did get to talk to all their big wigs at MACNA in Houston several years ago when their were first launching here. Their products seem solid. I wasn't aware of the 31.5" width tank so I may have to look into that one.

When are the bigger Red Sea's coming out? Is it the 625xxl and 750xxl? I'm not interested in a room divider setup, though. I have their catalog here but of course, it does not show the new additions.

[RichK]

I also looked at the ELOS setups. Love the 31.5" front to back depth, but their prices are crazy high. If I wanted to spend that much, I'd call Felix at Reef Savvy.

[TX_Punisher]

One more note: I think those XXL 625 and 750's will be more than we think once released. I don't think price will be linear.

I hope I'm wrong, though.

[moondoggy4]

I wondered how Red Sea will ship the bigger tanks, shipping is always a big concern.

[TX_Punisher]

I emailed and inquired about a release date for these. The response I received was this spring. No date unfortunately.

[ktownhero]

All I can say from my experience with a Red Sea Reefer 425XL is that you can't beat them for the price. I fully intended to build an entirely custom 120g set up but then the 425XL went on sale and got my attention. I sure am glad that I chose it over my own set up. It's extraordinarily well made and thought-out. It allowed me to focus on equipment and what to put in my tank, not how to build it. Plus, I could have never come close to the quality of the stand and rimless tank on my own for anywhere near the same price.

[asonitez]

I was also dead set on a Red-Sea system but went with SCA. Ultimately what it came down to was cost vs build and performance. I wanted a beautiful tank and one with an internal overflow. I understand how many hate the internal overflow but in my new house I did not want to deal with an external overflow where I would need to have pipes coming out and into my stand. With the internal overflow it is hidden and most importantly I can reach all of the parts from right under the stand instead of stretching to reach a bulkhead.


I liked the 525/725 but i was very unhappy about the sump situation. I was also not very impressed with the DEPTH.

My new tank is 60 X 30 x 24 which more than makes up for the internal overflow while offering me a great viewing area.

I never went for a higher than 38" stand because from experience that became such a hassle reaching into the tank and placing things. I was always on a ladder and trying not to kill myself. I was also so high that when I placed couches around the tank to view it the couches would never be high enough. I would be looking UP at the tank and right into the frickin halides.

I went with a 38" tall stand because then I could fit my sump and skimmer and stuff inside the stand without any issue.

I think it comes down to what is important to you.

[gmoney51]

I was strongly considerig the reefer 525XL. The only thing I dont like about them is the tower overflow, and the sump/stand compartments. I wanted a custom stand.

SCA caught my attention with the quality, and right before I ordered, they launched a rimless version, pre drilled to accomodate the 20" Synergy ghost overflow. The tank is 5/8" glass and very well finished. That was all I needed.
The new peninsula reefers seem like the way to go, as you can enjoy both sides of the tank. Here is my tank, as I was fitting the overflow.
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh583/Carlosjayme1/20170207_141444_zpsbgh9ma9q.jpg (http://s1253.photobucket.com/user/Carlosjayme1/media/20170207_141444_zpsbgh9ma9q.jpg.html)

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh583/Carlosjayme1/20161213_134140_zpscdk5yrdh.jpg (http://s1253.photobucket.com/user/Carlosjayme1/media/20161213_134140_zpscdk5yrdh.jpg.html)

[gmoney51]

Are the two other wholes for the return (the 1st and the last whole)?

[zachhll]

listed pricing for the new Red Sea tanks

https://www.eddiesaqua.com/shop/aquarium-kits/saltwater-kits.html

[TX_Punisher]

Well I've put my name on a 750 in white. Now the wait on the slow boat from china.

[Bronx19]

If only they were nearer $2k.

[TX_Punisher]

If only they were nearer $2k.

You gotta pay to play. And for what you get, for the Reefer (sump, stand, ATO, and low iron rimless with overflow and plumbing), you get a lot.

[ReefCowboy]

Are the two other wholes for the return (the 1st and the last whole)?

Yes, two 1" returns. Bulkheads are included(slip)

[new2u]

I am looking into ordering one of these myself. Any ideas on skimmers for the 750?

The sump space looks pretty big even with the refugium at the larger size. I was thinking I would go with a Bubble Magus Curve 7.

[Ls2Goat]

Pre-Orders are now available and the 750xxl Black is starting at $3099

http://www.redseafish.com/aquarium-systems/reefer/new-reefer-models-xxl-peninsula/

[ieatchinese]

The specs on RS's site say that three sides on the XXL's are "Ultra Clear". They do specify the "front" glass as something different dimensionally - e.g., 3/4 inch thick for the 750 XXL. This would support the previous speculation that the side panes are simply thinner glass, but are still low iron "Ultra Clear" glass.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee200/Onyx0682/Capture_zpsimyyulxq.jpg (http://s234.photobucket.com/user/Onyx0682/media/Capture_zpsimyyulxq.jpg.html)

[ieatchinese]

I am looking into ordering one of these myself. Any ideas on skimmers for the 750?

The sump space looks pretty big even with the refugium at the larger size. I was thinking I would go with a Bubble Magus Curve 7.

I purchased the Skimz SV253 Oval skimmer. It will fit into one side of the sump area with the divider in the middle position. This will allow for the largest refugium area. I've received the skimmer and tried it out in my current aquarium. It is a winner!

[spbk84]

The cost of Freight to NJ alone was really high so I decided to go with the xxl 750 I have it on preorder as of a few weeks ago.

[TX_Punisher]

I'm hoping to have mine this week if everything goes as planned.

[makers marc]

Is the 750's overflow box going to look exactly the same as the previous reefer aquariums? Theres only video of the peninsula and all pics are hard to see.

[TX_Punisher]

Is the 750's overflow box going to look exactly the same as the previous reefer aquariums? Theres only video of the peninsula and all pics are hard to see.

I would assume so.

[ieatchinese]

Is the 750's overflow box going to look exactly the same as the previous reefer aquariums? Theres only video of the peninsula and all pics are hard to see.

I have been disappointed in the lack of information on the 750 XXL. I ordered mine when it first became available and have asked the distributor for the PDF of the owners manual. I have yet to receive it. I have also searched RS website many times trying to find the manual and it is not there. I want/need to know what size plumbing is in the 750 XXL so that I can prepare for its delivery. I know they say that it comes with all the necessary plumbing, but I want to incorporate my reactors and need to buy the right sized plumbing and adapters. Not a good start. Also, I've been told that RS already shipped my tank. This means that there is a manual in the box (I assume) and therefore it should be available on their website!

[Espiritujedi]

Good luck with the new tank! I currently have the 425xl fron red sea, thinking on getting the 750 new version as well, can u please post some pictures of your new tank when arrives, about the manual for the new tank, better safe than sorry, is better to wait to see the actual plumbing that it comes with it , you never know and u will end expending twice, if they made a mistake.
Good luck!

[makers marc]

I have been disappointed in the lack of information on the 750 XXL. I ordered mine when it first became available and have asked the distributor for the PDF of the owners manual. I have yet to receive it. I have also searched RS website many times trying to find the manual and it is not there. I want/need to know what size plumbing is in the 750 XXL so that I can prepare for its delivery. I know they say that it comes with all the necessary plumbing, but I want to incorporate my reactors and need to buy the right sized plumbing and adapters. Not a good start. Also, I've been told that RS already shipped my tank. This means that there is a manual in the box (I assume) and therefore it should be available on their website!

I agree. That is frustrating. I dunno why all the videos and pics only show the peninsula, like theyre trying to hide things.

Can ppl still order now, or has that time passed?

[wmo168]

we need real pic and or someone has seen it in person

[makers marc]

Spoke with the 800 rep and she said no one knows the internal cabinet dimensions for the 750, nor has pics. But she did forwarded me the manual via email, but it doesnt help me determine how much space is available in each compartment. I wish there was no wall between both cabinet doors, but it seems like they always d9 that?

[Fringe09]

Spoke with the 800 rep and she said no one knows the internal cabinet dimensions for the 750, nor has pics. But she did forwarded me the manual via email, but it doesnt help me determine how much space is available in each compartment. I wish there was no wall between both cabinet doors, but it seems like they always d9 that?


You have the manual? I asked two weeks ago and they didn't have it.


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[studboy36]

Sigh... I'm so torn right now. The area for the tank can only accommodate a 60" comfortably. I really do like the 625xxl. It's the perfect size. I like the look of the stand too. Im not crazy about the overflow, but I can live with it. I'd rather replace the glass sump with something like the elite aquatics rollermat sump only a little longer. Problem is I have no idea what the internal dimensions of the stand are.

I've been buying equipment since last year for a 100 gallon Visio tank that I got for $50. All the equipment is sitting in my garage packed away in boxes. I changed my mind on lighting and decided to go T5 with a pacific Sun unit, so I ended up buying stuff that I'm not going to use. Because I bought a rollermat I'm determined to use it. Iv seen FB posts on modifying the glass sump to accept the rollermat, but I'd rather have a purpose built sump for it. I ended up getting a Synergy reef sump which is really nice before I knew that the rollermat existed. It's too wonky trying to plumb it into the Synergy sump and space is really tight.

I know this because I modeled all the components from sump, rollermat, skimmer, zeovit reactor, ATO resivour, fittings, Ca RX in Solidworks. I could get a 625xxl and mod the sump if feasible to fit the rollermat in it, or redesign the Synergy sump I created in Solidworks to integrate a compartment for it, and have Ridout plastics fabricate it for me. The unknown is the size of the sump compartment in the stand. Go with an SCA tank and stand of the same dimensions. Steve could maybe even make a canopy to house the PAC sun T5 unit to hang from the ceiling. Drilled for a ghost overflow. Have plenty of space inside the sca cabinet for my custom sump.

Or maybe I should just get a goldfish...

[ReefCowboy]

Sigh... I'm so torn right now. The area for the tank can only accommodate a 60" comfortably. I really do like the 625xxl. It's the perfect size. I like the look of the stand too. Im not crazy about the overflow, but I can live with it. I'd rather replace the glass sump with something like the elite aquatics rollermat sump only a little longer. Problem is I have no idea what the internal dimensions of the stand are.

I've been buying equipment since last year for a 100 gallon Visio tank that I got for $50. All the equipment is sitting in my garage packed away in boxes. I changed my mind on lighting and decided to go T5 with a pacific Sun unit, so I ended up buying stuff that I'm not going to use. Because I bought a rollermat I'm determined to use it. Iv seen FB posts on modifying the glass sump to accept the rollermat, but I'd rather have a purpose built sump for it. I ended up getting a Synergy reef sump which is really nice before I knew that the rollermat existed. It's too wonky trying to plumb it into the Synergy sump and space is really tight.

I know this because I modeled all the components from sump, rollermat, skimmer, zeovit reactor, ATO resivour, fittings, Ca RX in Solidworks. I could get a 625xxl and mod the sump if feasible to fit the rollermat in it, or redesign the Synergy sump I created in Solidworks to integrate a compartment for it, and have Ridout plastics fabricate it for me. The unknown is the size of the sump compartment in the stand. Go with an SCA tank and stand of the same dimensions. Steve could maybe even make a canopy to house the PAC sun T5 unit to hang from the ceiling. Drilled for a ghost overflow. Have plenty of space inside the sca cabinet for my custom sump.

Or maybe I should just get a goldfish...

That is why I went custom tank, stand, sump.The Reefer is awesome, except for the sump which is small, the ATO box is a joke, and after you mod everything you feel you would have been better off getting your own equipment from the get go. Being OCD, I couldnt deal with the center overflow, unless it was the penninsula, where it is not in the middle of the tank

[makers marc]

You have the manual? I asked two weeks ago and they didn't have it.


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I do have the manual, I believe it is available now.

[Fringe09]

I do have the manual, I believe it is available now.



I can't find it when I go to http://www.redseafish.com/downloadcenter/


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[makers marc]

The 1800 lady emailed it to me. I tried uploading it but it keeps failing. But I am reading it right now.

So call them and ask for it.

[TX_Punisher]

The 1800 lady emailed it to me. I tried uploading it but it keeps failing. But I am reading it right now.

So call them and ask for it.

Feel free to post up some new info on the 750. Plumbing and interior stand dimensions would be great.

[studboy36]

That is why I went custom tank, stand, sump.The Reefer is awesome, except for the sump which is small, the ATO box is a joke, and after you mod everything you feel you would have been better off getting your own equipment from the get go. Being OCD, I couldnt deal with the center overflow, unless it was the penninsula, where it is not in the middle of the tank

Yeah after thinking about it, I'm going to go with a SCA tank drilled for a Synergy overflow with a stand and maybe a canopy that hangs from the ceiling. I am OCD and I won't be happy until I get exactly what I want. I can sell the sump, leds and some other equipment and put that money towards the custom rollermat sump that I'll design from the assembly model of the Synergy Reef sump I already made in Solidworks. SCA aquariums are really nice, and I could probably get them to mimic the look of the reefer stand on the outside. The reefer overflow really does bother me. :)

Off to my PC to design! :-) I'll probably post a before and after pic of the design.

[makers marc]

Feel free to post up some new info on the 750. Plumbing and interior stand dimensions would be great.

There are no dimensions listed. Just ikea looking diagrams to help assemble all parts of the tank.

It looks like the 750 will continue to have a divider within yhe cabinet unfortunately.

[TX_Punisher]

Has anyone received their 750 yet?

[makers marc]

TX punisher, you gonna do a build thread of yours here?

[TX_Punisher]

Possibly.

[103monster]

Mine should be here this week! They say people in the states already received them. Called today

[makers marc]

Other boards have ppl posting build threads. Surprisingly no one on here has that i recall

[studboy36]

I spoke to Steve at SCA. The 150 is the largest rimless that they currently sell as standard. It's a fair price and if you want to use a ghost overflow it's probably the way to go. If Steve confirms that the price he quoted me for a 60x30x24 version he can do.. it's totally worth the price and 10 week wait time.

Yes his 150 stocked rimless is a great price. Only issue I have with it is when I did my 120 build 6 years ago, no body would do it for less than 3/4" glass at 24" height. The sca rimless 150 is only 5/8" which is why the price is very reasonable.

So it would scare me but maybe 5/8 is enough.


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Jeremy's tank size is the size that I just sent Steve a email about. That would be the perfect size for me rimless. Just need to know the cost. :)

[nycman]

I too looked at the Reefer 750, did not really like the sump situation so went with two rimless Miracles tanks - 72x26x24 and 60x30x24, both with ReefSavvy ghost overflows. Went with LifeReef sumps skimmer and refugium.

[ReefCowboy]

Custom is always the best route, but the larger reefer 750's seem excellent choices. The Peninsula model is more attractive to me because the sump has more room for equipment, if they made the 750 with that layout with side overflow, it would probably be super cool