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Darth_Tater
02/21/2017, 05:24 PM
A couple of weeks ago I read an article on another site about using magnetic lab stirrers for routine reef tank testing (Red Sea Alk, Calc, and Mag for example). I thought to myself "that's a neat idea, maybe someday I'll try it."

Later that week I read another article about how we tend to make changes to a very successful system for no other reason than to make a change. That author made the suggestion that the only changes to a stable thriving system that are smart to make are changes that make important routine tasks easier (i.e. testing or water changes), thus making them more likely to get done.

This got me wondering when I last tested my parameters and decided this second author had a great point. If there's a change you can easily make that will encourage you to do the important routine things more often, you should do it! Later that week the mag stirrer, graduated cylinders, and stir bars were in the mail.

I have to say, I will never use the old "swish the liquid around the bottle" method again! The test was much easier to perform. I think (for me personally at least) the magnetic stirrer also makes these tests much more accurate. I got a reading a full 1 degree of Alk lower with the stirrer than I had a few days earlier with the "swishing liquid" method (backed up by a lower reading on the Calc test). I've always had a problem with the Red Sea Alk test finding the color change point. With the liquid in the graduated cylinder constantly mixing, you can instantly tell if the drop of reagent you just added made a difference or not.

In summary, I am a fan of the magnetic lab stirrer for routine reef tank testing and highly recommend it. There is a fairly high startup cost (cost me about $80 for mag stirrer, cylinders, and stir bars) but I think it's worth it. Now I just have to find a place to put the stirrer so I don't have to unplug it and shove it in a drawer between uses...

Dealseer
02/21/2017, 05:29 PM
Where did you get these items?

Darth_Tater
02/21/2017, 10:31 PM
A large online retail store. It's also the name of a jungle. In South America. You can find almost anything on there!

ReefsandGeeks
02/22/2017, 01:40 PM
I have done the same thing before, and actually just bought a magnetic stirrer for home just before reading your thread. I used to bring a sample of water to work with me and check my parameters in the lab during lunch break. Now i'll be happy to have the same convenience at home. The stirrer does make the end point of titrations easier to spot, and I fill like I am more careful with smaller additions of the reagent this way, rather than concentrating also on the swishing of the fluid.

Dealseer
02/22/2017, 01:53 PM
A large online retail store. It's also the name of a jungle. In South America. You can find almost anything on there!

Well there ya go.

hkgar
02/22/2017, 02:25 PM
Could you explain how the stirrer, cylinder and stir bars are used? Thanks

Darth_Tater
02/22/2017, 02:40 PM
I will let the original article's poster explain it in his YouTube video:

Magnetic Stirrer Red Sea Test Demonstrations (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A50o3EokzW4)

FamilyTank
02/22/2017, 03:15 PM
Is this the same thing?
https://premiumaquatics.com/products/magnetic-stirrer-ghl-doser-2.html

Darth_Tater
02/22/2017, 04:14 PM
Yep. Not sure about quality of that particular one. You will probably need to buy a set of stir bars with some small sizes still because the 20 mL and 10 mL graduated cylinders are pretty narrow.

Ron Reefman
02/23/2017, 05:56 AM
Looks like just another toy and it will only work for certain makes of test kits.

ReefsandGeeks
02/23/2017, 08:09 AM
Looks like just another toy and it will only work for certain makes of test kits.

Sure, it's only a little more convenient, and may provide marginally more accurate results at best. But it is nice to have, and even if it is more of a toy, than something you needed to spend money on for testing, if it makes you test more frequently than it's a good thing. If you do have more than a couple of test kits that use titrations than it could be pretty convenient. Especially if you have a dedicated area in a fish room or basement where you can leave it setup. Certainly not a needed piece of testing equipment, but fun to use and feeling like a chemist is fun to. It's up to the person if it's worth the money.

crawlerman
02/23/2017, 08:38 AM
I think it's pretty awesome. As far as being just another toy, isn't all of this just one big expensive toy?

hkgar
02/23/2017, 10:12 AM
I think it's pretty awesome. As far as being just another toy, isn't all of this just one big expensive toy?

Yup, LOL. :rollface:

Scuba_Steve
02/23/2017, 10:28 AM
There is a little handheld unit made for swimming pool titration tests. Taylor speed test. It should work great, and is small and cheap. Taylor is a top notch company as well.

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