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FamilyTank
02/27/2017, 07:53 PM
So too many yrs ago in the early 90's, I had a FW 30gl. I used to have a 1/2 vinyl drain tube with a super simple 1 way duckbill flapper to start a siphon. All you had to do was shake the tubing up and down a few times, siphon starts and your off. Are these still around? All I have now are frogspawn and trumpets.I'm looking to expand.

MrNurse
02/27/2017, 08:33 PM
There's several varieties of auto siphons out there.

One example:

https://www.chewy.com/aqueon-siphon-vacuum-priming-bulb/dp/128933?utm_source=google-product&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=f&utm_content=Aqueon&utm_term=&gclid=CJGsof_fsdICFcS3wAodJhIPjQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

Gorgok
02/27/2017, 08:57 PM
Another way to start a siphon really easy is to point the sucky end (technical term) at a powerhead. This lets you bypass one way flaps (restrictive and not always reliable) like on the shake start and bulb start siphons.

pfan151
02/27/2017, 09:19 PM
Or just suck on the end of the hose like people have done since the hobby started without dying.

marper331
02/27/2017, 09:24 PM
Or just suck on the end of the hose like people have done since the hobby started without dying.

Works for me every time!

JMorris271
02/27/2017, 11:25 PM
Simply place one end of a hose on the floor with the other in your tank and walk away. The siphon will start pronto.Works every time.

enveetie
02/27/2017, 11:57 PM
Works for me every time!

also a good opportunity to discover what condition your reef is in by the taste

sde1500
02/28/2017, 07:11 AM
Hmm, I just stick the whole hose in the tank, let it fill up, then take the end out and stick it in a bucket to drain. Not that difficult.

NewToReefHobbby
02/28/2017, 07:18 AM
Hmm, I just stick the whole hose in the tank, let it fill up, then take the end out and stick it in a bucket to drain. Not that difficult.

I do the same and works like a treat. I used to suck the hose pipe to kick up the process until I read this article - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4121094/My-deadly-pet-fish-cleaning-aquarium-left-retired-bus-driver-killer-infection.html

juniorrocketdad
02/28/2017, 07:29 AM
For drip acclimation I just suck on the hose but I do realize this might not be safe with zoas, I've been doing it for years and haven't died yet so should I bother changing my methods?

FoxFace Fish
02/28/2017, 10:44 AM
Could always use your mouth that's a way of starting it

MondoBongo
02/28/2017, 11:16 AM
python squeeze ball. never get a mouth full of nasty water again.

https://www.amazon.com/Python-Squeeze-Starter-Aquarium-Adapter/dp/B0017JHPA6

zoas or no zoas, who wants a mouthful of tank water? that stuff is nasty, my fish poo in it. i also recently saw an article about a guy who ended up with a nice Mycobacterium Marinum infection in his lung from inhaling the bacteria while starting siphons. no thanks!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4121094/My-deadly-pet-fish-cleaning-aquarium-left-retired-bus-driver-killer-infection.html

mcgyvr
02/28/2017, 11:22 AM
Or just suck on the end of the hose like people have done since the hobby started without dying.

Also a great way to get infected with various viruses/bacteria..

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27872397

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4121094/My-deadly-pet-fish-cleaning-aquarium-left-retired-bus-driver-killer-infection.html

edit.. mondobongo beat me to it..

mcgyvr
02/28/2017, 11:22 AM
Hmm, I just stick the whole hose in the tank, let it fill up, then take the end out and stick it in a bucket to drain. Not that difficult.

^^ This is simple/easy/proven..

CafeReef
02/28/2017, 11:37 AM
I use the python sqeeze ball that Mondo linked to. Works great, couple quick squeezes and I'm set.

FoxFace Fish
02/28/2017, 12:37 PM
in all seriousness Aqueon makes a nice self staring siphon that i really like

gogo7
02/28/2017, 12:47 PM
here's two cents worth....
i use air line (pico guy) with a piece of rigid air line.... leave water in syphon hose... close shut with rigid air line.... always water in your syphon. when you start you syphon, there is already water in it. no inhaling anything

RogueGrown
02/28/2017, 12:48 PM
Hmm, I just stick the whole hose in the tank, let it fill up, then take the end out and stick it in a bucket to drain. Not that difficult.
This is what I do.... works perfect

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EMeyer
02/28/2017, 03:59 PM
Discussions of new and improved devices for starting a siphon always remind me of those infomercials where a housewife tries to fry an egg and somehow manages to break her whole kitchen in the process. Then the sales guy says "tired of this happening to you? Buy my widget, only 19.99 (plus 39.99 shipping and handling)."

You dont suck the water into your mouth, LOL. You suck on the tube and move it before the water gets to your mouth.

Whatd you guys do in the old days to siphon gas, buy some elaborate gadget? :)

Swensos
02/28/2017, 05:37 PM
Also a great way to get infected with various viruses/bacteria..

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27872397

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4121094/My-deadly-pet-fish-cleaning-aquarium-left-retired-bus-driver-killer-infection.html

edit.. mondobongo beat me to it..

If you're getting water in your mouth (or breathing it in as the case above), get a larger diameter tube. Fish tank granuloma only occurs if you come in contact with the water to a part of your body not protected by skin. And the dailymail is no better than a tabloid. You can get granuloma from a swimming pool.

juniorrocketdad
02/28/2017, 06:44 PM
I usually do get saltwater in my mouth tbh, I'll try some of your methods thanks for the asvice

FamilyTank
02/28/2017, 08:33 PM
Ok, so I use a 1/2" clear vinyl tube as my siphon tube, I to just suck on to start it. I haven't got water in my mouth in a very very long time. I was just wondering if the flapper valve siphon tube was still out there.