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Joeb1983
03/06/2017, 09:17 AM
What started out as consolidation into a custom, rimless, 72x24x15" Planet Aquarium build, has quickly over the past year, spiraled out of control.


The link to said build for those interested:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2564059


Anyways, I found my sand-bed completely littered with frags like most of us do and I thought to myself, "how cool would it be to have Planet build me a matching mini-me frag tank?"..

So, the order was placed with Planet for a 24x24x15" rimless and 36" tall Coastal stand matching the big tank.

The mini-me came in and it looked great sitting next to the 6', but something was off and it just looked unbalanced; and for the next week or so weighed heavily on my mind. (I have OCD)

With that said, I ultimately found myself with twins shortly thereafter.

The frag tank direction quickly flew out the window and with 10' of tank on a single wall just made my head hurt with all the options.

It was decided after discussing with the wife; we would start with one shallow cube being our Maroon pair's new home and the other her Spotcinctus's.

Seeing how there wouldn't be a frag tank between either of the two, I needed one BAD; so I resurrected a 30x20x10" acrylic build I placed on the back burner.

Long story short, the dedicated frag tank is at max capacity and I find myself awaiting delivery of yet another Planet tank this time in 36x24x15". :facepalm:


Attached is the plan for the ever evolving fish room. The 10' of three tanks will share a Trigger Systems Sapphire 39" sump with a Vectra L1 handling return and reactor duties.

The new, 36x24x15" will utilize a Trigger Systems Sapphire 26" and the Vectra M1 currently running the 6'.

Stay tuned.

Joeb1983
03/07/2017, 09:47 AM
Here is the room currently as it is.

I need to move the treadmill out, slide things down and add the second 24x24x15 on the right side.

Joeb1983
03/07/2017, 09:53 AM
The rock work for the twins. (Pukani)

Joeb1983
03/07/2017, 11:32 AM
I have constructed two rockscapes for the 36x24x15" peninsula that is in the process of being built.

Not sure which one to go with as of now... Maybe I need to see them in tank then decide; either way, feel free to share your thoughts.

The first like the rest is all Pukani; the second is a mixed bag of Pukani, Reef Saver and Tonga remnants.

JonezNReef
03/07/2017, 11:45 AM
Following along on this thread as well. You changing your profile pic from "greasy" threw me off for a minute LOL

Rock work is going to look great either way. I like the clean open look of the first scape, the second scape is really interesting but a little more piled looking.

Joeb1983
03/07/2017, 11:59 AM
Following along on this thread as well. You changing your profile pic from "greasy" threw me off for a minute LOL

Rock work is going to look great either way. I like the clean open look of the first scape, the second scape is really interesting but a little more piled looking.

Appreciate it!

The 30 pounds of Pukani I ordered for the cubes came in dry and in great, porous shapes.

The second 30 pound order placed a week later came in damp, smelly and consisted of nothing really special (much like the Pukani order for the big tank)

The first two pictures are the same scape, one from the side and one from the top. Kind of a Ying/Yang fitment.

The paper it is on is only 16-18" wide, so keep in mind I will have ~24" in tank.

The last pic is the Frankenstein concoction curing in a standard 20 gallon long.

My goal for this thread is to not drag my feet and to get some water moving.

Joeb1983
03/10/2017, 03:46 PM
Picked up a used hydra 52 in black this time, to match and go over my frag tank.

The white 52 that is on it now will be moved to the new peninsula tank to match the others.

(If you happen to ever stumble across this, thanks again Rob!)

Anyways, took a chance on some bland chalice frags my buddy picked up at a fire sale and passed the savings on to me.

After a few weeks in my system they are starting to show some real potential.

Also picked up a small colony of "Mia's pot of gold" Favia that is also doing quite nicely as well a large rock colony of Rhodactis sp - Neon Green shrooms the wife wanted for her tank.

Recently acquired a branching chalice- Pectinia sp just because it was different looking. It currently coloring up.

My friend at the LFS FINALLY fragged his crazy fox chalice for me. Letting it heal before I drop the $.

Now waiting on a piece of "backny" I believe they called it to grow out...

Joeb1983
03/16/2017, 08:19 PM
Picked up the Jason Fox - Crazy Fox Chalice. Had a nicer rolled and healed edged.

Also, picked up a Jason Fox - Superman Chalice as well along with another random mariculture branching chalice this time purple with green eyes.

Joeb1983
03/16/2017, 08:23 PM
Here's the frag as you can see is pretty full...

Joeb1983
03/18/2017, 04:56 PM
Moorish idol might have to go... Nipping at My rainbow Lobos.

Also, picked acrylic tank up for dirt cheap. 60x14x8"

Not sure what to do with it... since my frag tank is packed...

scott11106
03/22/2017, 07:03 AM
tank looks great! that is one serious aquarium living fish room you are putting together.

i am putting a 300 gallon tank in a new house i am building and adding a dedicated fish room behind it to house all of the equipment ect...

i am going to go read your thread on the build now...

Joeb1983
03/27/2017, 09:57 AM
Thanks!

First, I broke it and second I didn't really have the room a 5' tank

So, I placed yet another order with Planet for a 36x18x10" frag tank for where I do have the room. (Where the 40 breeder QT was)

The peninsula tank "should" be here tomorrow... Not holding my breath though.

Joeb1983
03/28/2017, 04:49 PM
Peninsula tank came in... 36x18x15, not 36x24x15". So back it went. Stand was built the same and the edges weren't finished rounded.

See what happens...

Devaji108
03/28/2017, 05:44 PM
Damn looking nice. your frag tank looks better than my DT...
bummer about the wrong size how the hell did that happen? did they ship the wrong tank or build the wrong tank?

I love how your surrounded my tanks...I would not know what tank to look at tho.would get a score neck. .haha

Joeb1983
03/28/2017, 08:22 PM
I original drafted up a a 36x18x15 in late February, and dropped it off to be sent out for a quote.

They very next day I spoke with the owner and said to go ahead and make it 24" deep and use the same overflow box the other 3 tanks have. (Dual return)

February 27 came and I received a phone call Due to confusion with the stand along within regards to only requesting a single door and it's placement. This was to match my 24" cubes, but simply 12" deeper to fit the 36" length as it was a peninsula tank.

I already measured, ordered, received and test fitted a trigger 26 sump and 5 gal ATO and even provided mock pictures showing proper fitiment and showing the single door on the side would not be an issue with one of my 24" cube stands.

I assumed all was well and he seemed on the same page.

Two days later on 1 March they quote was sent out, received and the order was placed. Unfortunately it when through as the original draft and not what we discussed in person and over the phone.

He's a good dude, simple mistake and I'm sure he will make it right. Just have to wait even more and wonder how much that additional 6" is going to cost me...

Joeb1983
03/29/2017, 07:01 PM
Spoke with the owner, apparently Planet's "new" classic stands come not routed any longer...

They will upon request; which in my world equates to more $$$.

Also, the tank quote like mentioned before was for a 36x18x15 with matching 36" tall stand; instead of the agreed upon 36x24x15, etc...

I can't wait to see how much more 6" is going to cost me...

In the meantime I do have an order in for a glass 36x18x10" frag tank with a "custom" corner overflow... Cost more than the 36x18x15" they sent by mistake... Which is beyond me.

Hopefully it gets here soon... I need the room!

On top of that I'm battling a high alk batch of IO. (Fun times!)

Bassguy13
03/30/2017, 12:49 AM
Spoke with the owner, apparently Planet's "new" classic stands come not routed any longer...

They will upon request; which in my world equates to more $$$.

Also, the tank quote like mentioned before was for a 36x18x15 with matching 36" tall stand; instead of the agreed upon 36x24x15, etc...

I can't wait to see how much more 6" is going to cost me...

In the meantime I do have an order in for a glass 36x18x10" frag tank with a "custom" corner overflow... Cost more than the 36x18x15" they sent by mistake... Which is beyond me.

Hopefully it gets here soon... I need the room!

On top of that I'm battling a high alk batch of IO. (Fun times!)
If you don't mind me asking what's a tank like one of those cost a guy?

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Joeb1983
03/30/2017, 08:42 AM
If you don't mind me asking what's a tank like one of those cost a guy?

Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

Off the top of my head:

72x24x15 - $825
24x24x15 - $336
36x18x15 - $368
36x24x15 - (Awaiting quote)
36x18x10 - $410 (no clue why, other than "custom overflow")

Stands are sometimes more than the tanks...

mickyfree13
03/30/2017, 01:09 PM
Who is making those tanks for those prices? Seems like a deal considering how custom they are and their size!

Joeb1983
03/30/2017, 02:56 PM
Planet Aquariums in TX. Built like tanks.

Joeb1983
04/04/2017, 09:38 AM
Frag tank and correct peninsula ordered at this time.

Cost me a little over $200 more to go 24" wide over the 18".

I Really need the frag tank over the peninsula, so I requested that take priority if at all possible.

My Morrish Idol, although a beautiful and healthy conversational piece is a F*****G nightmare when it comes to coral. Especially LPS.

The only think he doesn't mess with is my 3 giant nems and a beast of a long tentical plate coral.

I've yanked what I could and my current frag system is a max capacity with recovering lobos, blastos and the like. (Blasto colony is what ticked me off the most)

As much as I hate the dude, I still like him. Might make adjustments between the 5 tanks.

I did order another trigger sapphire 26 and 5 gal ATO for the new frag system (Fit like a glove under the steel stand) as well as the AI ext mounting bars (in black)

Joeb1983
04/07/2017, 09:40 PM
Ready for the frag tank...

JonezNReef
04/21/2017, 10:34 PM
Wow how many tanks on how many systems will you have running when this is all said and done for now LOL. I would hate to see the amount of time and maintenance that goes into it all. Where do you plan on putting the low boys in comparison to the rest of the tanks.

Joeb1983
04/22/2017, 03:59 AM
It will be 4 systems total.

The 72x24x15 and two 24x24x15's (fish room)

The 36x24x15 peninsula (fish room)

The 36x18x10 (living room, "choice" frag tank)

And finally the two 48x24x10 lowboys. (The kitchen/some weird 9ft long office internet bar thing...)
Mainly as a grow out tanks.

Maintenenance isn't all that bad to be honest. It helps with my anxiety believe it or not. Lol!

JonezNReef
04/22/2017, 09:02 AM
Very nice. How are the current tanks doing? Any update on when the new ones come in?

Joeb1983
04/22/2017, 09:18 AM
Since the peninsula tank and stand was built and delivered to/with the wrong dimensions, they had to re-quote and rebuild.

Seeing how my current frag tank was at and now is over capacity; I added the 36x18x10 to the quote/order as well.

Took down the 40 breeder and will utilize the stand, thus the dimensions.

Was told 3"ish" weeks... That was 2 weeks ago... We will see.

Then I made the mistake of going to one of my LFS's and saw the lowboys and all was downhill from there.

The 10' of tank in the fish room was on hold due to a bunch of medical BS I'm dealing with.

Joeb1983
05/09/2017, 06:03 PM
Well, Planet delivered the tanks today...

Both where built with rims, so they are going back.

Always something with them lately.

JonezNReef
05/09/2017, 07:32 PM
Wow hate to hear that.... the waiting game continues

Joeb1983
05/09/2017, 09:28 PM
I don't get it nor does my LFS that's placing the orders. It's not their fault, but they are just as frustrated with them as I am.

I personally think it's a situation where a company is growing faster than they can keep up; more and more mistakes happen and like the majority of businesses out there, they want to cut costs and increase profits.


I do know their warranty (with stand) is now 5 years instead of 7.

Their "classic" stands are now come un-routered; so no more finished/rounded trim edges.

(I was fortunate to have the 36x24x15 tank's stand finished, but was told once the "rounded stock" on hand is out; their will be no more. A shame really, because it just looks cheap and on top of that, the price is still the same)

So, I guess that is pre-ordered like their glass is.

All glass is pre-cut and pre-drilled to order like mentioned above. (Heard a rumor the glass is from China, but what isn't now a days)

Basically from what I gather, Planet assembles the tanks and Coastal finishes (stains & clears) the stands.

Appearantly the major distributor DFW, Planet and Coastal are all under the same roof from what I'm told.

Who knows how long it's going to be this time around.


Another low blow was from AI. They "no longer" have or manufacture half the parts for Non-HD Hydra 52's and 26's.

They consider them "legacy" fixtures.

They did however offer me the opertunity to upgrade to HD and would graciously give me $300 in credit for two 52's and two 26's towards new HD fixtures!

Planned obsolescence and forced upgrading seems to be their business model since the merger.

Another shame if you ask me.


Guess I'll press with the lowboys in the meantime.

Joeb1983
05/10/2017, 08:42 PM
So instead of sending them back yesterday, they now sit at my LFS.

They said a rep from Planet "might" come and pick them up, but in all honesty, will stay there until DFW delivers again next week and they get thrown on the truck. (What I see happening)

Also, to not be surprised if the edges of the glass are finished/polished under the trim, that Planet doesn't simply pop the caps and removes the excess silicone/RTV off in order to quick turn them. (I hope that's not the case...)

Joeb1983
05/20/2017, 05:29 PM
FYI, a Rock Beauty angelfish is 100% not reed safe. (At least in my case)

Put it in a "tester" system. Usually to see if its experimental nips or choice chomps.

Everything from softies to sticks where chomps. Particularly loved the eyes of chalices.

After just one day, he's in a fowlr holding tank till I trade em in.

Joeb1983
05/25/2017, 08:18 PM
Well, the word on the street is Planet is doing a complete rebuild on both the tanks.

We will see...

We will also see how long it takes this time around. (I would think think this would be a priority build) but, most likely not givin their latest track record.

In the meantime I'll focus on the lowboys more...

Joeb1983
06/11/2017, 06:05 PM
Tanks are here. Got the 36x18x10 rimless fraq system up and running.

Just started a fish-less cycle with janitorial ammonia/10% ammonia hydroxide.

For the water volume w/ sump I dosed 4ml this morning.

Just tested, 4ppm.

So far so good.

Here is the breakdown of equipment.

36x18x10 rimless planet tank (Bare bottom)
Petco steel stand for a 40 breeder
Trigger 26 sapphire sump
Trigger 5 gal sapphire ATO reservoir
(They both fit PERFECTLY inside the frame rails. A 1/4" less and they wouldn't)
Plumbed with silicone
seaside aquatics c6 w sicce. (awesome skimmer for the $, I have 3)
Finnex titanium 300w heater
Finnex heater controller (The separate digital one)
2 X Marine pure blocks (8x8x4)
Jebao DCP-5000 return pump. (Believe it or not, these things are pretty decent.)
MP10
AI 48" Tank mount in black
18" EXT rail matching
Single Hydra 52, again in black.
RKE to be swapped over from old system.

Joeb1983
06/11/2017, 06:26 PM
One thing to mention. I changed over from IO to Tropic Marin Pro. So far corals love it, but for some reason it makes my hands itch like crazy!

Any idea as to why? I never had this reaction to any salt so far. IO, RedSea or HW over the years.

Joeb1983
06/26/2017, 11:17 AM
Peninsula up and running...

JonezNReef
06/26/2017, 01:00 PM
That looks sweet! Whats going to be housed in this one? Sorry you have so many systems its hard to remember LOL

Joeb1983
06/26/2017, 01:07 PM
Thanks!

I have to throw my Morrish in there for a bit as my clown tang is relentless towards it, but the plan was/is a "black" tank:

Black tang
Black Nox angel
Black combtooth blenny
Midnight clown pair

Joeb1983
06/28/2017, 10:08 AM
Cycling is taking forever on this tank for some reason...

As usual, I'm using ammonia hydroxide.

Processes ammonia over night, but its the nitrites that remain sky high.

Trates are around 40ppm.

I know its only a matter of time, just thought it would be different since I have been curing that Pukani for months now.


Black Nox angel and midnight clowns be here today to start QT.

They did not have the blenny or black tang.

I did come across a "midnight dottyback"... Have no idea where I would get that thing though.

Devaji108
06/29/2017, 07:04 PM
nice build there man!

Joeb1983
06/30/2017, 07:25 PM
nice build there man!

Thank you! It's definitely taken over that's for sure...

Hooked up the RKE. Still need to cal the PH probe.

I have to say, I prefer DA over Neptune as far as user interface goes.

The peninsula looks amazing. Really stands apart from all the other tanks and has become my favorite over the big tank and the twins (that I still need to get up and running.)

Still waiting for these darn nitrites to drop... Story of our lives right.

The onyx angle and midnight clowns are in and in QT.

I did find on my Trigger 26 sumps, the built in probe holders won't work.
They come with o-rings to go around the probe and press into the holder... there's no way. On my 39 sump they have a inlay and it works just fine, the 26's don't. I have to call them about that.

On a lighter note I added a lunar wrasse to the big tank and a small purple tank in my frag (for now) and got it eating off a clip.

Also picked up some 3" square ceramic frag plates. (Love them)

I'll update when the trites drop and I do a WC.

Thanks again!

JonezNReef
06/30/2017, 07:44 PM
Moving on along as always I see. You will have to update with some pictures one day. Can't wait to wait is what I tell my wife LOL

Joeb1983
06/30/2017, 09:43 PM
Moving on along as always I see. You will have to update with some pictures one day. Can't wait to wait is what I tell my wife LOL

Yessir! I will post pics. Trying to get better at taking then rather than the cell phone through yellow eye protection glasses. Lol!

JonezNReef
07/01/2017, 06:13 AM
Yessir! I will post pics. Trying to get better at taking then rather than the cell phone through yellow eye protection glasses. Lol!

LOL I take all of photos on my iphone and some of them through yellow eye safety glasses too but I don't like the green color they cause. I need a real camera is what I need.

Joeb1983
07/01/2017, 10:27 AM
Me as well... I bought a DSLR and all the goddies for the wife and signed her up for a class while I was deployed, well she went to take apart the camera to put it in the bag and dropped it on the tile floor.

Broke the lense, flash, lense mirror/sensor thing and cracked the body...

And I still had to pay for the class she never went to even though she called and explained.

Anyways, nitrites are not as cool aid purple now and the diatoms have arrived.

Joeb1983
07/01/2017, 10:43 AM
UV, carbon and MP controllers mounted.

Joeb1983
07/01/2017, 10:51 AM
Manifold of return with gate valves. (Arrange in an order to balance the pump)

Joeb1983
07/01/2017, 10:56 AM
And the electronics.

Don't ask about the sideways and upside down pics... lol

Joeb1983
07/03/2017, 09:46 AM
Well, as usual, catching was an EPIC PITA; but the Moorish is now in the peninsula.

Now it can chill and heal. (Streamer and a cut)

Since I had 75% of my rock out I decided to clean and level my sand bed.

To my surprise there was a lot of cement like large clumps of sand.

Now my fish are going nuts making new caves under the rocks, blowing sand everywhere.

The onyx angel is BEA-utiful!

My midnight clowns on the other hand will be finding a new home... Theyre more like washed out dominos or mis-bars...

premilove
09/16/2017, 08:24 PM
Hey- really enjoyed your builds. I just finishing reading both of your build threads. I'm actually thinking about setting up a similar tank as your display. My friend is getting out of the hobby and he has a 72x24x16 peninsula. Is there anything you would change? For water flow, do you find the 4 mp40s to be sufficient? Would two 60s cover the tank? I'm probably going to go with 4 radion G4 pros.