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danferd2002
03/11/2017, 05:40 PM
I've been out of the hobby for a few years and I'm ready to get back in. I started with a 30, 40, then left off with a 75. The plan is to have a 180 display with a 75 sump/ refugium underneath in my finished basement. Possibly in the future add another small display plunged into the system on the main floor of the house.

This will be a slow build and has been underway for over a month already. Allot is still undecided as far as equipment goes. I've picked up a few things that I felt were good deals and will continue to do the same. I'm in no rush whatsoever if I've learned anything it's to go slow.

One of two brute trashcans with roughly 175 lbs of dry rock that have been in there for 5 weeks so far. These will become my sw mixing station after.
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danferd2002
03/11/2017, 05:44 PM
Stand will be pretty basic.

Could not believe the variation in one 2x6 to the next.
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After a run through the table saw they are better.
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Deck screws and glue on all joints.
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Vertical corners
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danferd2002
03/11/2017, 05:47 PM
Top and bottom rails done.
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danferd2002
03/12/2017, 04:30 AM
So far the equipment that I've picked up is a skimmer. SRO-5000 SSS. I'm now worried that this will be way overkill. Any opinions?

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I've also got two mp40 Wes. I'm thinking of adding a gyre pump of some type in addition. Or upgrading to quiet drive if these aren't enough.

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danferd2002
03/12/2017, 04:37 AM
Overflow I went with a synergy reef knockoff. I've drilled tanks before but nothing this big. I first checked the glass with a LCD screen and polarized sunglasses to make sure it wasn't tempered. I picked up a 2 7/8" drill bit from Amazon for $17. It worked great.

I made a template from plywood of the hole locations.
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I got the hole started with the wood and then removed it and made a dam with putty and plenty of water.
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Getting there. Took about 15 minutes per hole.
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Done. Bucket and tape underneath to help with chipping and to catch the center slug.
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danferd2002
03/12/2017, 04:40 AM
After the first hole I laid the overflow on the tank and traced the second hole. It matched my template and I drilled the second hole.
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It fits!
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danferd2002
03/12/2017, 04:43 AM
For background I've always done black and struggled with the possibly of going blue this time to change it up but in the end didn't.

All taped off.
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3 or 4 coats later.
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Spunky Bob
03/14/2017, 06:23 AM
Looking really good!

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hartin461
03/14/2017, 06:30 AM
Following along..doing good so far!

rhinonm
03/14/2017, 06:57 AM
[QUOTE=danferd2002;24999526]So far the equipment that I've picked up is a skimmer. SRO-5000 SSS. I'm now worried that this will be way overkill. Any opinions?

I use that same skimmer on a 200 gallon. Overkill yes but it allows me to feed heavily keeping my sps colorful.

danferd2002
03/18/2017, 01:23 AM
[QUOTE=danferd2002;24999526]So far the equipment that I've picked up is a skimmer. SRO-5000 SSS. I'm now worried that this will be way overkill. Any opinions?

I use that same skimmer on a 200 gallon. Overkill yes but it allows me to feed heavily keeping my sps colorful.
Good to know. Thanks. I'll stick with it for now.

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danferd2002
03/18/2017, 01:29 AM
Making the vertical supports. I should have drilled the pocket holes first, so I had to rig an extension to get the drill in there. It worked ok.
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Rough dry fit. I cut out a piece of cardboard the same size as a 75 that my sump will be. I originally wanted a single support in the middle front and back. However I wouldn't be able to get the sump in and out. So I will have two supports in the back positioned so I can remove it if needed.

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Back to HD now to get another 2x4 to finish the frame.

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Fish finder
03/18/2017, 04:08 AM
I should of drilled another hole in my tank but i didn't know it was that easy

danferd2002
03/18/2017, 12:50 PM
Frame done. The right side will have a door to access the electrical. Figuring out how I want that to look. Then I will start covering in plywood.

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danferd2002
03/18/2017, 07:24 PM
I should of drilled another hole in my tank but i didn't know it was that easy
It's pretty easy. Go slow. Lots of water. Don't put pressure on the drill let the bit do the work. Make sure it's not tempered of course.

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danferd2002
03/19/2017, 06:30 PM
Got the top and bottom of the stand covered. Top is 3/4 the rest is 1/2. I cut them oversized and used a flush trim bit.

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I laid a 6 ft level on the top and checked with a .010 feeler gauge along it for straightness. Had to shim one corner slightly. Was surprised how flat it was already.

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danferd2002
03/25/2017, 06:58 PM
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Stand is skinned caulked and sanded. Ready for paint tomorrow.

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cincyjim
03/27/2017, 05:12 AM
Very nice work!

McGarnicle
03/27/2017, 05:38 AM
Stand is looking great! Following along.

danferd2002
03/30/2017, 02:00 PM
Inside is finished. 4 coats exterior paint. Sanded in between each coat.

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Not sure exactly what to do for the outside. Originally was going to paint black to match the rest of the room. It's going in to an office basement area. Now I'm thinking possibly a really dark stain.

Doors and trim are next this weekend.

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Buddy55
04/01/2017, 06:28 PM
What material did you use for the half inch skin? Can you find a sku from home depot or website link maybe. It looks good

danferd2002
04/01/2017, 06:35 PM
Its just regular 15/32 bc sanded pine plywood. I went over it again with 220 then 350. A hardwood plywood like oak or maple will look much better but its double the price.

Buddy55
04/01/2017, 10:17 PM
Okay, thats what I used to then. Just didn't look that good. I have lowes local to me and the selection was not good. Many hours of finish work. I also had to use a pre stain I found out with that stuff or the final stain will look awful

danferd2002
04/02/2017, 07:33 AM
Yeah pre stain is a must for soft woods especially. I have both Lowe's and home Depot. One week Lowe's will have the better quality one week home Depot will it really varies. Still have to pick through half the pile to get anything decent.

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danferd2002
04/02/2017, 06:46 PM
A little more progress. Built the door frames and cut the panels for them. Exact lengths are key.
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Pocket holes as usual.
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Frames done.
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Panels cut and sanded. I will stain them before assembly. It will make for much easier time getting into the corners.
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danferd2002
04/02/2017, 06:48 PM
Can't forget my helper.
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I hope to get everything stained this week. The final trim will get installed once the tank and stand are in place as it will not fit through the door with it.

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danferd2002
04/08/2017, 10:05 PM
Almost done with the frame. Will see if I want to do another clear coat in the morning. So far it has a pre stain, a stain, and 3 coats of clear on it. I sanded with 400 grit in between each clear.
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danferd2002
04/14/2017, 05:24 AM
The tank is finally in the stand. Now the real work can begin.

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danferd2002
04/22/2017, 12:23 PM
Worked on the electrical area. The panel at the top is removable and can be trimmed to fit two more power strips if needed.
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Back side.
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Overflow plumbing. Waiting on spa flex to arrive so I can finish.
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Inside. The fittings barely fit and I added an acrylic spacer between the tank so the two bulkheads wouldn't stick out so far.
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Sump area with light installed.
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danferd2002
04/23/2017, 04:17 PM
Made a stand for the skimmer out of left over glass from the sump baffles. Not sure if I will eventually make another out of acrylic like I originally wanted or not. It will work for now.

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danferd2002
05/05/2017, 03:40 PM
Leak test time. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170505/63d742530da705f52f8533b70a4256c8.jpg

Plumbing for drains
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danferd2002
05/07/2017, 10:42 AM
Leak test went well was able to tune the siphon to my return pump as well.

Rodi set up in the next room. Waiting on a booster pump from brs.
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Waiting on a top off container from melevsreef. It will sit in between the stand and the wall. Once that gets here I will put the stand in the final spot and start filling with rodi.

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danferd2002
05/12/2017, 01:01 PM
Got most of the stuff needed to fill at least. Amazing the difference it made to get to the correct psi.

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Doing about an inch an hour.

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danferd2002
05/16/2017, 12:59 PM
Rock is in system is running. Haven't added the sand yet as I'm not completely happy with the right side. The left however I like.

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I solved an issue with the overflow. I had it working perfectly and it was silent however when the power was off and came back on the full siphon would never restart. Always the open siphon. I tried moving the open up I tried drilling a hole in the elbow. Finally I took off the elbow on the full siphon and just left the open bulkhead. It works perfectly now. Starts up and back to normal within seconds.


Getting just a small drizzle from the open. The emergency never sees water.

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What I removed from the full siphon and what remains on the open.

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danferd2002
05/16/2017, 01:03 PM
Waiting on an Apex and a new wet side for the second mp40. Still haven't decided on lighting any suggestions? Really want the Hydra 52 hd's. But not sure I want to drop that much cash.

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goldnlovr
05/16/2017, 08:25 PM
nice setup

danferd2002
05/17/2017, 03:19 AM
nice setup
Thank you.

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danferd2002
05/27/2017, 01:36 PM
Update. Got the Apex running. Sand is in. Still need to figure out lights and clean up some wiring. Stand doors need to be finished.

The flow from my return is too strong coming from the mag 18 with only two returns. I'm going to order two lockline splitters and turn it into 4 to spread it out. That's why the sand it pushed from the corners. Also the euductors don't seem to make a difference that I can tell so they might be going not sure yet.

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danferd2002
05/27/2017, 01:55 PM
Also starting to put together a fish list. I plan on doing the TTM quarantine method, is there any other preventative medications that are recommended along with that?

List so far.

Either Blue throat or red tail trigger
Pair of clownfish most likely ocellaris possibly precula
One tang still undecided, on the list so far is bristletooth, purple, powder blue, or kole
Some smaller fish to fill it in not sure exactly what. Any suggestions?

danferd2002
07/08/2017, 07:11 PM
Long overdue for an update. Working on the canopy. Still much left to do. Here it is with all doors open. The front hinges up for access it also has doors for feeding etc. Waiting on bulbs for the 4x 80w t5 I'll be adding in addition to the 3 a360we that are currently there. Everyone will be hanging so I can adjust height.

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Currently have some green chromis in qt those will be the next fish in. Have a yellow clown goby in there now.
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cincyjim
07/10/2017, 05:14 AM
I really like the set up! Nice job on the rock scape. I looked and maybe I missed it but what size is the tank?

danferd2002
07/10/2017, 08:04 AM
180

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cincyjim
07/10/2017, 10:38 AM
lol well I knew it was a 180... I wasn't clear with my asking/words. I wanted to know the dimensions.

danferd2002
07/10/2017, 10:57 AM
Standard 180. 72 24 25.

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Buddy55
08/14/2017, 08:20 AM
Any update?

danferd2002
08/14/2017, 01:54 PM
I seem to be stuck in a cycle that won't get going. I've been ghost feeding daily and still couldn't get the ammonia past .5. Two days ago I dosed ammonia and added 3 bottles of bio spira. Hopefully that gets it going.

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I have the lighting finished so I'm running 3 a360we kessils. Also 4x 80w of t5. Two blue plus and to Coral plus from ati. Everything is hanging with the exception of the front t5 so I still have decent access to the tank.

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I really want to borrow a par meter to see where I stand as I have no idea.

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danferd2002
08/14/2017, 02:04 PM
I've also picked up to wav pumps and have been playing with them. Still have the mp40s in there as well. I don't know which I like better. The mps might end up on the back glass behind the rock.

Someone asked for more info on the electrical panel. It's just a piece of plywood attached to the frame of the stand. It sits inside the right hand side of the stand in front of the side door.

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The front has two cut outs for wires to pass through. The back has wire channel to route the wires where they need to go. I will say it's a complete mess right now as you can see in the pictures.

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There is a DJ style power strip at the top for things that don't need automated control. There is also a piece of plywood above than can be trimmed to fit two additional dj power strips.

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I used 1.5" sq wire channel and it's much to small to fit everything, this is partially why it's a mess. I'm going to replace it with larger eventually. It's also a pain if you want to remove or add a wire but once everything is settled it shouldn't be as big a deal.

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danferd2002
08/14/2017, 02:14 PM
I've also finished the water change holding rack. I stacked to brute trash cans to save space. The top is 30 gallons of rodi. I can feed my top of reservoir or my sw mixing trash can below or a 5 gallon bucket if needed.

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The bottom is 30 gallons of sw. I have a mag 18 for mixing and to pump to the tank or into a bucket. I also have an old koralia pump that will run constantly when it's full. The mag 18 will kick on for short periods of time too help keep it aerated. I plan on adding an eb8 to control these eventually. This sits about 15 ft from the tank in the garage.

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My rodi sits on the wall next to everything. It can feed the top off reservoir directly or either trash can all with float valves as backups. For water changes I just turn the pump on and open either valve and I can fill into the tank or the sump in the other room. I plan on using a python to siphon water from the tank into a utility sink in the garage or I can use the return pump to pump water to the sink if I don't need to siphon.

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BlackburnD
08/16/2017, 06:21 AM
Liking the setup. I saw your fish list, and I wanted to say of the tangs you mentioned I really like the Kole out of those. Curious about the trigger. I may have missed it, but do you intend to not have inverts? I always thought triggers would decimate inverts.

danferd2002
08/17/2017, 02:32 PM
Liking the setup. I saw your fish list, and I wanted to say of the tangs you mentioned I really like the Kole out of those. Curious about the trigger. I may have missed it, but do you intend to not have inverts? I always thought triggers would decimate inverts.It's always a gamble with triggers. I think red tail and blue Jaws are the safer ones for reefs. Of course nothing is 100%.

For me the look and the personality of them outweighs the risk. I've never had a big enough tank to keep one until now.



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danferd2002
08/17/2017, 02:34 PM
Good news after the ammonia and the bio spira I'm finally seeing nitrites and small amount of nitrates. Which is more than I've seen in the last two months.

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