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Devaji108
03/25/2017, 01:49 PM
thinking about pulling the trigger on a classic as it more in my budget (unless you want to offerr me a discount. lol )

one of my main concerns will Neptune ever stop supporting, making replacement parts and models that will work on it?

I dont what to get then all the fun mods then be forced to rebuy in a few years.
thoughts thinking lot term here.

thanks for all the help.

JustinFromAL
03/25/2017, 03:33 PM
I wouldn't be concerned at all. All the new modules they're making are compatible with the Classic and you can still by the classic directly from Apex today. I think you're good for a LONG time before you have to worry about "end of life" on the Classic.

Breadman03
03/25/2017, 04:27 PM
Eventually, sure, but it's probably going to be a while. I would, however, consider how cost effective the Apex 2016 is. I don't remember what I paid for my Classic about 5-6 years ago, but I'd bet that it plus the cost of some of the modules I've bought that are now part of the 2016, would exceed the cost of just buying the 2016 model.

Devaji108
03/25/2017, 08:06 PM
^ yeah I have been thinking about that. but I really dont need built in wifi and the other 2 props. I would rather have the FMK.

trust me I have been going back and forth for a few days now.

jonmos75
03/25/2017, 08:17 PM
The Apex 2016 has a faster CPU, more memory, can do more in Fusion then you can with the Apex Classic apex (more features).

jason2459
03/26/2017, 08:11 PM
Put it this way they are just finally dropping support on their original aquacontrollers that came out over a decade ago. ;)

Edit:
Which there will always be support for really in their community forums
https://forum.neptunesystems.com/forumdisplay.php?15-Legacy-Models-AC3-AC3-Pro-ACjr

jason2459
03/26/2017, 08:14 PM
lol blast from the past when people were questioning to go Apex of AC3
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1942658

BlueRoofTang
04/02/2017, 10:02 PM
In the video they did about the new Neptune Apex, they mentioned that they will NOT stop supporting the classic, and have no plans to stop.

ca1ore
04/02/2017, 10:28 PM
Look, at some point support for everything stops. As the installed base dwindles, there is a business decision that gets made. Is that likely soon, no; but it will happen eventually.

ldc3000
04/04/2017, 06:10 PM
I actually found a deal on the classic, but by the time I purchase the salinity and orp probe and corresponding module I would be really close to the price of the Apex 2016.

tygger
08/12/2017, 10:43 PM
I actually found a deal on the classic, but by the time I purchase the salinity and orp probe and corresponding module I would be really close to the price of the Apex 2016.

You would need to buy the salinity probe, orp probe, and the salinity module to make it comparable to the 2016, correct? Looks like the orp probe can plug directly into the second ph/orp port on the classic controller.

five.five-six
08/14/2017, 12:15 PM
Hell, I've sent emails and they still have given me limited support on my ACIII pro as late as a week ago. I think you are GTG

vhuang168
08/25/2017, 11:04 PM
Soooooo, the new Trident module that monitors Alk, Ca and Mg will not be supported by the classic!

tygger
08/26/2017, 12:38 AM
That's disappointing

D-Nak
08/26/2017, 01:10 PM
If I were you, I'd get the new Apex. If the Trident does what it's expected to do, then it's a game changer, and as Vincent said, that means you need the new Apex. Furthermore, I suspect all new products moving forward will take advantage of the higher horsepower, which means they won't be compatible with the classic Apex. I wish Neptune could make all products compatible with the classic but with reduced functionality, but I guess that's not possible.

jason2459
08/26/2017, 06:57 PM
Soooooo, the new Trident module that monitors Alk, Ca and Mg will not be supported by the classic!

Wait what?

vhuang168
08/26/2017, 07:04 PM
Wait what?



Yup.

Apex Alk, CA and MG monitor at MACNA

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=1489&share_tid=2649207&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ereefcentral%2Ecom%2Fforums%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D2649207&share_type=t


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jason2459
08/26/2017, 07:34 PM
Yup.

Apex Alk, CA and MG monitor at MACNA

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=1489&share_tid=2649207&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ereefcentral%2Ecom%2Fforums%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D2649207&share_type=t


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat's awesome.

Breadman03
08/26/2017, 08:34 PM
That's awesome.



However, one must have the Apex 2016. I suppose one can't expect the Classic to do everything.

kurt_n
08/26/2017, 09:14 PM
There's a difference between Neptune continuing to *support* the Classic versus making new product that can work with the Classic. The Classic can only do so much.

ca1ore
08/26/2017, 10:22 PM
There's a difference between Neptune continuing to *support* the Classic versus making new product that can work with the Classic. The Classic can only do so much.

Correct, support is maintenance and repair, new modules are innovation.

five.five-six
08/29/2017, 01:10 PM
There's a difference between Neptune continuing to *support* the Classic versus making new product that can work with the Classic. The Classic can only do so much.


Correct, support and backwards compatible are two different, but related, concepts.

gus6464
08/29/2017, 04:19 PM
They said at macna this year that all the big products coming out from now on will be 2016 Apex only. The little stuff like FMK and repackaging of the current stuff will work on classic but this is basically the beginning of the end for the classic.

ca1ore
09/01/2017, 09:08 PM
The classic can still do all of the things today that it could do the day before MACNA. How is that the beginning of the end? The way I always think about tech is to buy based on what something can do TODAY, rather than any vague notions of future compatibility. I'd much rather future innovation not be constrained by legacy equipment limitations.

five.five-six
09/01/2017, 11:40 PM
I'm using a ACIII pro at the moment with aquasurf. It does everything I want it to and then some.

FullBoreReefer
09/02/2017, 04:06 AM
Sell your old apex for $200-$350, depending on accessories. Buy the new Apex 2016 from BRS and get $70 in points, or more if there is a promotion. Now your pretty close to half price. That's how I made the justification. Once set up, I then sold my 2nd eb8 from my original and then picked up a new eb832, used the money from the eb8 as well so I didn't have to spend $250, so now I have a new apex 2016 and two eb32s.