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Cammunoz
04/09/2017, 10:43 PM
Started my 150g build. Started working on the stand today using 4x4s. i attached the 4x4s using hex driven bolts i plan on using Brackets also, just do not know whicknomes to use. Any comments or advice welcom
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Darthv247
04/10/2017, 05:24 AM
looks strong. are you going to make a base for it? if not just nail some 2x4 between each leg at the base to keep the legs from collapsing inwards. no brackets should be needed thar way.

Darthv247
04/10/2017, 05:27 AM
if u really want brackets for extra measure just add some L brackets at the top of the legs.

Jboone82590
04/10/2017, 06:41 AM
Are those treated?
You did not need to use 4x4.
2x4s would have been more then srong enough and cheaper.

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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 07:07 AM
looks strong. are you going to make a base for it? if not just nail some 2x4 between each leg at the base to keep the legs from collapsing inwards. no brackets should be needed thar way.



I added another 4x4 box to the bottom and attached them to the legs i will take pictures later


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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 07:08 AM
if u really want brackets for extra measure just add some L brackets at the top of the legs.



ok thanks so i only add them to the legs or should i put them at every joint?


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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 07:09 AM
Are those treated?
You did not need to use 4x4.
2x4s would have been more then srong enough and cheaper.

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I know but peice of mind. I dont think they are treated


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Jboone82590
04/10/2017, 07:26 AM
I know but peice of mind. I dont think they are treated


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I built a 220 stand with 2x4s
If I where you I would make sure they are not treated.
When you where running screws did some liquid come out of the wood like it was wet?
Is the wood green or white?

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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 07:27 AM
I built a 220 stand with 2x4s
If I where you I would make sure they are not treated.
When you where running screws did some liquid come out of the wood like it was wet?
Is the wood green or white?

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it was white and im almost sure there was nonliquid but i am going back to the hardqare store today. Just curious what happens if it is treated?


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Jboone82590
04/10/2017, 07:42 AM
They use some chemicals to make it water proof. Those are bad for your tank.

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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 07:44 AM
Also as far as strong ties what route should i go? I also thinking of just attaching 2x4s to each post, just because the sides of the stand dont have much support?
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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 07:45 AM
They use some chemicals to make it water proof. Those are bad for your tank.

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Hope thats not the case but doubt it because they were like 6 dollars for 6 feet but thanks i will make sure


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Jboone82590
04/10/2017, 07:56 AM
Hope thats not the case but doubt it because they were like 6 dollars for 6 feet but thanks i will make sure


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Then you may be good. But it's never a bad thing to make sure.
I don't think you need to worry about the brakets.

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Jboone82590
04/10/2017, 07:57 AM
And I would run something on the bottom just incase the 4x4s arnt cut perfect.

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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 07:57 AM
Then you may be good. But it's never a bad thing to make sure.
I don't think you need to worry about the brakets.

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Ok but im worried about the sides if you look at the pic all thats holding the 4x4s up is the screws nothing underneath? should it be ok or should i add 2x4s for support?


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Jboone82590
04/10/2017, 08:00 AM
Ok but im worried about the sides if you look at the pic all thats holding the 4x4s up is the screws nothing underneath? should it be ok or should i add 2x4s for support?


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It will be fine. The front and back 4x4 are going to hold all the weight. The ones in the middle won't even be doing anything.
They will just keep the front and back together.
It won't hurt if you do but it's not needed IME.

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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 08:01 AM
It will be fine. The front and back 4x4 are going to hold all the weight. The ones in the middle won't even be doing anything.
They will just keep the front and back together.
It won't hurt if you do but it's not needed IME.

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Thanks i also should add i added another post to the front i will take a picture today


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Jboone82590
04/10/2017, 08:15 AM
Thanks i also should add i added another post to the front i will take a picture today


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I would take it out. It will just get in the way of the sump.

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Jboone82590
04/10/2017, 08:16 AM
Thanks i also should add i added another post to the front i will take a picture today


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So what's the plan for the tank? Reef?

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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 08:16 AM
I would take it out. It will just get in the way of the sump.

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ok but i plan on having doors on the sides also possibly it maybe a peninsula build


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Jboone82590
04/10/2017, 08:21 AM
ok but i plan on having doors on the sides also possibly it maybe a peninsula build


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Oh that would be sick.


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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 11:19 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/be2571fdf4fc8204ec59217b14326c01.jpg
☹️Left front side
left sidehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/b601fd1bf1b5cd40b55f3ba9e5eb28ce.jpg
Back front sidehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/74a7ecdde00a8546ccb6b7d6091cc72f.jpg

what do i do?


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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 11:23 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/ea9fd0df77198894ec804b803eeaa338.jpg right side


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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 11:28 AM
flipped it and this happenedhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/f8fefc6c8d552c07b8d9513b4e7e28cc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/ab3fdf456c5e0cf357e82e17bce9dacd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/0a96df7df3e7db3198e23c3cdeb66afd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/8c9f2bd3785f481ef729b66aae46639d.jpg


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Jboone82590
04/10/2017, 11:32 AM
Damn man that's not good. It need to be as level as possible.
Going to need a bunch of shims.

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rlhanks
04/10/2017, 12:22 PM
Not to be a jerk but let me get some things strait here. This stand is for a 150 gallon reef tank? That thing is going to be easily over a half a ton in weight. Now looking at the construction used for the stand you are just butt jointing those 4x4's together with out any type of joinery like half lap or mortise and tenons? Did you use dowels, biscuits or even wood glue that we cannot see? Now the real strength is going to be from those lag bolts, because the 4x4's is strong enough to hold up the house, but any sway on that thing and its coming down like a house of cards or dominoes. Next is you're going to dump all kinds of money into the glass box and all the things that needs to go inside like livestock, the filtration, electronics, lights etc. and when it came to picking out the wood for the stand you used that beat up, knotty wood 4x4 most would use to frame a garden landscape in? This doesn't make sense. This isn't a 20 gallon tank crashing down on the floor this is going to be a ticking time bomb that someone could get seriously hurt, and more than likely it's not going to be the one who engineered it. Again, not to tell you what to do but you might want to step out side the box and rethink this thing.

Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 02:01 PM
lol could this be ithttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/f412c1360402701b57096b68982ad2ec.jpg


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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 02:03 PM
Well i wasnt done i reinforced it with 2x4s is that ok or no?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/ce065defeb748d927e2edf7eb6a6cde3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/4ddb68dbe3c916a4c4a4db991ca4e72d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/0e77d35de8727a8e46c3578cd503094e.jpg


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Reefable
04/10/2017, 02:21 PM
After you added the 2 x 4s the stand should take the weight down to the floor which is what it should be. I am curious about the 4 x 4 as its color looks a bit greener than the dry 2 x 4s and as pointed in one of the posts above make sure it is not a treated wood..other than that you are good to go..here is a link of my basement sump 125G 72" long tank build with the stand and you can see how the stand was built..no centre beam at all as the weight is carried down by the front, back and side bracing..

http://www.gtaaquaria.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266370

Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 04:07 PM
Not to be a jerk but let me get some things strait here. This stand is for a 150 gallon reef tank? That thing is going to be easily over a half a ton in weight. Now looking at the construction used for the stand you are just butt jointing those 4x4's together with out any type of joinery like half lap or mortise and tenons? Did you use dowels, biscuits or even wood glue that we cannot see? Now the real strength is going to be from those lag bolts, because the 4x4's is strong enough to hold up the house, but any sway on that thing and its coming down like a house of cards or dominoes. Next is you're going to dump all kinds of money into the glass box and all the things that needs to go inside like livestock, the filtration, electronics, lights etc. and when it came to picking out the wood for the stand you used that beat up, knotty wood 4x4 most would use to frame a garden landscape in? This doesn't make sense. This isn't a 20 gallon tank crashing down on the floor this is going to be a ticking time bomb that someone could get seriously hurt, and more than likely it's not going to be the one who engineered it. Again, not to tell you what to do but you might want to step out side the box and rethink this thing.



Do you think using these would be a better option?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/7cd54a926a19712364a7efb0374fcaa5.pnghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170410/c8e1d16548c852c304904d89a61d091d.png


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rlhanks
04/10/2017, 04:26 PM
I would put some sort of "Z" bracing on the back and/or sides. That would prevent it from toppling over. Right now with all that wood it would hold two 150g tanks.

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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 04:28 PM
I would put some sort of "Z" bracing on the back and/or sides. That would prevent it from toppling over. Right now with all that wood it would hold two 150g tanks.

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Well i may have to rethink the 2x4s i tried to put my sump underneath and it was an inch short would the brackets be just as strong as the 2x4s


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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 04:34 PM
I was also thinking what if i remove the front center 4x4?


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rlhanks
04/10/2017, 04:47 PM
I would remove the top side 4x4's and replace them with two 2x4's stacked so they were the same as a 4x4. But the top 2x4 would span the entire top and the lower one would span the inside. This means you would have to notch the top 4x4's that span side to side. Second I would use yellow wood glue and screws to hold it till the glue dries. That is a half lap joint that has been proven for hundreds of years. Then you could remove all those interior 2x4's. Then I would​ roll that stand forward and put a board corner to opposite corner to add strength from racking.
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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 04:57 PM
I would remove the top side 4x4's and replace them with two 2x4's stacked so they were the same as a 4x4. But the top 2x4 would span the entire top and the lower one would span the inside. This means you would have to notch the top 4x4's that span side to side. Second I would use yellow wood glue and screws to hold it till the glue dries. That is a half lap joint that has been proven for hundreds of years. Then you could remove all those interior 2x4's. Then I would​ roll that stand forward and put a board corner to opposite corner to add strength from racking.
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thanks alot for the help ill try but those screws are almost impossible to get out once in. This is what i was thinking but how would i support the middle brace in the the front install a bracket?


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Cammunoz
04/10/2017, 04:59 PM
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Cammunoz
04/12/2017, 06:48 AM
Well is this stand worth saving or have any chance of working based on my design? i removed the cebter brace on the front and plan to add 2x4 supports on the outside? The orange in the pictures is the 2x4s i plan to add?

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Darthv247
04/12/2017, 07:15 AM
the stand can be built in 100 different ways and be able to hild the tank. Its all up to you as to what your willing to look at under your tank. It will be difficult to change ince you fill the tank. If that stand is ok with you then i would just remove the 2x4s inside and the 4x4 in front middle and call it a day. as long as your going to put some sort of wood panels in the sides you have plenty of strength through the other 5 posts. Though if it were my stand, i would start over and look for some other designs online or in books. Also, the posts are definately heat treated for outside use. You can tell by the big letters HT on the boards. Im not sure if that means they will leach chemicals, but something to look in to.

Darthv247
04/12/2017, 07:19 AM
when i originally recommended adding braces between the legs. I meant in between each bottom of the legs at floor level. but what you did will be fine too without the additional 2x4s

Darthv247
04/12/2017, 07:21 AM
one more thing. if using metal brackets under the tank they will rust unless they are protected against such. like stainless steel or titanium is best.

Cammunoz
04/12/2017, 07:22 AM
when i originally recommended adding braces between the legs. I meant in between each bottom of the legs at floor level. but what you did will be fine too without the additional 2x4s



thanks! found this interesting
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rlhanks
04/12/2017, 07:22 AM
the stand can be built in 100 different ways and be able to hild the tank. Its all up to you as to what your willing to look at under your tank. It will be difficult to change ince you fill the tank. If that stand is ok with you then i would just remove the 2x4s inside and the 4x4 in front middle and call it a day. as long as your going to put some sort of wood panels in the sides you have plenty of strength through the other 5 posts. Though if it were my stand, i would start over and look for some other designs online or in books. Also, the posts are definately heat treated for outside use. You can tell by the big letters HT on the boards. Im not sure if that means they will leach chemicals, but something to look in to.

Agreed. This is your tank, don't let other peoples opinion change your plans for the worst. If you're ok with it then skin it with some decorative plywood and call it a day. But like he said, once you fill it with water, it becomes very difficult to correct things.

I agree with the start over, of all the things this hobby is going to force you to buy, a couple more 2x4's are nothing. Nothing ever gets done with out a little practice. You get props for recognizing some flaws others point out and accept them as constructive to help you make yours better.

good luck

Cammunoz
04/12/2017, 07:24 AM
Agreed. This is your tank, don't let other peoples opinion change your plans for the worst. If you're ok with it then skin it with some decorative plywood and call it a day. But like he said, once you fill it with water, it becomes very difficult to correct things.



I agree with the start over, of all the things this hobby is going to force you to buy, a couple more 2x4's are nothing. Nothing ever gets done with out a little practice. You get props for recognizing some flaws others point out and accept them as constructive to help you make yours better.



good luck



ok can i still use the 4x4s? Its not going to be fun getting out those bolt driven 6" screws lol


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rlhanks
04/12/2017, 07:30 AM
A sheet of 4x8 3/4" hardwood plywood at the Depot is around $50 tops. cut that into pieces to cover the sides and back. Screw that with 2" wood screws onto what you have and that will solve a lot of your problems. Cover up the screws with some moldings. Anything is possible.

br88dy
04/12/2017, 10:08 AM
Just a heads up, you shouldn't be shimming the stand in the garage. Your garage is most likely sloped so that water runs away from the house. You need to shim it inside the house where it eventually will sit.

Also, make sure your tank lays down TRUE on the top of the stand. Every inch of the bottom of the tank needs to be touching the stand. If not, the tank will warp when you fill it and it will absolutely fail. One might argue that a tank that is true is more important than a tank that is 100% level. If you are having problems understanding what I mean, let me know.

Cammunoz
04/12/2017, 10:09 AM
Just a heads up, you shouldn't be shimming the stand in the garage. Your garage is most likely sloped so that water runs away from the house. You need to shim it inside the house where it eventually will sit.

Also, make sure your tank lays down TRUE on the top of the stand. Every inch of the bottom of the tank needs to be touching the stand. If not, the tank will warp when you fill it and it will absolutely fail. One might argue that a tank that is true is more important than a tank that is 100% level. If you are having problems understanding what I mean, let me know.



you are right the garage was sloped rookie mistake [emoji20]


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Cammunoz
04/13/2017, 09:30 AM
Well i guess i will find something else for the 4x4s back to the drawing board


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Darthv247
04/13/2017, 11:43 AM
you will be happy you did in the long run. its a learning experience. plenty of DIY stands you can copy on this site alone.

Darthv247
04/13/2017, 11:54 AM
http://www.guidepatterns.com/28-diy-aquarium-stands.php

Cammunoz
04/13/2017, 12:14 PM
http://www.guidepatterns.com/28-diy-aquarium-stands.php



Thanks alot
look what i found in the link
http://www.reefnation.com/diy-aquarium-stand-build/


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FishN00b83
04/13/2017, 12:18 PM
wow that is the most serious DIY stand I've seen. Looking at my angle iron stand for my 180 and then this almost makes me want to hold up the side of my tank LOL

Cammunoz
04/13/2017, 12:20 PM
wow that is the most serious DIY stand I've seen. Looking at my angle iron stand for my 180 and then this almost makes me want to hold up the side of my tank LOL



lol maybe its overkill i just dont want a disaster how much did it cost you? if you dont mind me asking? i just dont want to waist more money [emoji383]


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FishN00b83
04/13/2017, 12:30 PM
My angle iron stand? 150 I think. I bought it the same time I bought the tank. We were moving into a new house and my wife and I agreed that we wanted the tank to match the kitchen when we redid it. I am now in the process of framing out the shell for the stand and canopy.

Cammunoz
04/13/2017, 12:31 PM
My angle iron stand? 150 I think. I bought it the same time I bought the tank. We were moving into a new house and my wife and I agreed that we wanted the tank to match the kitchen when we redid it. I am now in the process of framing out the shell for the stand and canopy.



Awesome where do you go for something luke that?


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FishN00b83
04/13/2017, 12:33 PM
the fish store I got the tank from had iron stands for almost any tank size. They're usually the cheapest option. When I look at it though I can't believe it hold a tank that big.

Cammunoz
04/13/2017, 12:34 PM
the fish store I got the tank from had iron stands for almost any tank size. They're usually the cheapest option. When I look at it though I can't believe it hold a tank that big.



was it welded?


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FishN00b83
04/13/2017, 12:37 PM
was it welded?


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Yeah it's welded angle iron. Check out like the first page or 2 of my build thread. i show pictures of it when I was rubber coating it so it wont rust.

Cammunoz
04/13/2017, 12:55 PM
Yeah it's welded angle iron. Check out like the first page or 2 of my build thread. i show pictures of it when I was rubber coating it so it wont rust.



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Darthv247
04/13/2017, 03:52 PM
Thanks alot
look what i found in the link
http://www.reefnation.com/diy-aquarium-stand-build/


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haha. looks like the one u made only weaker. just goes to show, " there's more than one way to skin a cat" err build a stand.

rlhanks
04/13/2017, 09:14 PM
Omg fishnoob, your stand has half the metal than the one I just got done making and there are people saying I need to add gussets and what not.

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Cammunoz
04/15/2017, 02:05 PM
Restarted!


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rlhanks
04/15/2017, 02:09 PM
WOW, major improvement. That's much better, I'm sure your happy you made the change.

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Cammunoz
04/15/2017, 02:14 PM
WOW, major improvement. That's much better, I'm sure your happy you made the change.

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Yea I am just having slight issues with the level but i dont think anything that serious.


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Cammunoz
04/15/2017, 02:16 PM
On Another note my livestock is doing wellhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170415/aeb17b8e171c05a7f4726c2d86b7352e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170415/8e83b14505a6a5520f0f43ce10c2987c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170415/f88831bf14d58774d9524a59d7910944.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170415/a40ef79dbc3f5b7bc1425c869a841455.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170415/df741ed82aefe719ce63ddf0668284a8.jpg


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rlhanks
04/15/2017, 02:19 PM
Don't worry about level just make sure it's square by measuring from corner to opposite corner. Worry about level when it's in its final destination

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rlhanks
04/15/2017, 02:20 PM
What size tank did you have all that in before? They look like you've had them quite a while

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Cammunoz
04/15/2017, 02:23 PM
What size tank did you have all that in before? They look like you've had them quite a while

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They were all in a 90 with a trigger systems 39 sump


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Darthv247
04/15/2017, 02:44 PM
nice. cant wait to see the finished product. livestock looks great.

Cammunoz
04/15/2017, 03:15 PM
Thanks so I have seen these builds were they build a shelf on the stand for maitenance etc. How safe are these i saw a build where a guy could stand on it for maitenance?


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rlhanks
04/15/2017, 03:19 PM
Check out Melev's reef and his stand. These are typically on wider tanks like 36" deep where center of gravity is far different than an 18". 400 gallons of water with a wide base, a man's 250lb body isn't going to tip that thing

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Cammunoz
04/15/2017, 03:20 PM
Check out Melev's reef and his stand. These are typically on wider tanks like 36" deep where center of gravity is far different than an 18". 400 gallons of water with a wide base, a man's 250lb body isn't going to tip that thing

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Ah ok got ya i guess ita not a good idea for a 150g


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rlhanks
04/15/2017, 03:22 PM
My build I'm trying to have a slot on the backside of the stand from the side access to house a two step ladder. I'm always grabbing the one we have in the kitchen to get up inside mine.

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Cammunoz
04/15/2017, 03:24 PM
My build I'm trying to have a slot on the backside of the stand from the side access to house a two step ladder. I'm always grabbing the one we have in the kitchen to get up inside mine.

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Ya exactly and I know with a taller tank im going to need it. Also any ideas on the floor of the stand should I connect the frame with 2x4s and plywood the top or plywood the bottom of the stand?


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Cammunoz
04/16/2017, 10:12 AM
ZHappy Easter.
Ive made a decision this build will be a hubrid of these two buildshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170416/f98d3b0b88d602c514975d47d0d635b0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170416/5b6cb4a9c003a5481f3ae3029595047b.pngk.


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Cammunoz
04/16/2017, 11:44 AM
Did a dry fit of the sump so farhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170416/decd132ed0d436757490fbeb23ff5014.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170416/e5611a9b964fa16c0906fe359c7d0d76.jpg


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Cammunoz
04/16/2017, 05:15 PM
Im a little concerned with these areas? I used 2xs to join the 2x6s thats one concern. My other concern is that bottom are I have the outside supporting 2x4s. I have the resting 2x4 on top of the 48" 2x4 and not on top of the joint where the 18" and 48" 2x4 meet? is this an issue I see all the other builds opposite? for example this pichttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170416/cbf65301b7d72044aa5958ea71b07126.png


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Darthv247
04/16/2017, 07:24 PM
u mean alternating the seams? helps tie the structure together better and displacing weight more evenly. I dont think it will make a huge difference though. I coukd be wrong though.

rlhanks
04/16/2017, 07:26 PM
If you used Elmer's wood glue you have nothing to worry about

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Cammunoz
04/16/2017, 08:00 PM
If you used Elmer's wood glue you have nothing to worry about

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I used Gorilla wood glue and deck screws, yes thats what i meant alternating the seams thanks!


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Cammunoz
04/16/2017, 08:10 PM
Any suggestions or ideas for modifications welcom thank you all for your help


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Cammunoz
04/17/2017, 08:03 PM
progress made some changes added a 2x6 to front bottom and added additional 2x4s to back for supporthttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170418/8720d7390aea5ffa9154a9b10804e25a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170418/6929b481500fef9e0e5d005878292d8c.jpg


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Cammunoz
04/17/2017, 08:04 PM
Are diagonal supports necessary i see them on some stans?


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Darthv247
04/17/2017, 09:40 PM
think your good to go. just gotta decide how u want to finish it now :)

Darthv247
04/17/2017, 09:42 PM
can u get your equipment in and out of the sump?

Cammunoz
04/17/2017, 09:59 PM
can u get your equipment in and out of the sump?



I can through the sides but the sump can not get come out the sides only the front. I am eorried though about the front sagging if i dont put a support there. At the same time i will not be able to get the sump in.


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rlhanks
04/17/2017, 10:18 PM
You add any more support and you'll have a cube of pine.

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Cammunoz
04/17/2017, 10:19 PM
You add any more support and you'll have a cube of pine.

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exactly [emoji23]lol just dont know if the 2x6 will bow without it


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Waddleboy
04/18/2017, 04:53 AM
Assuming you are leveled all around and the wood the tank's frame is going on is vertically supported, you can stop adding wood. The 2x6 won't bow under the weight. More wood and all you are doing is just making the stand heavier. Start skinning and adding your finishing touches.

That being said, to each your own and if it makes you sleep better at night, add additional support. I personally wouldn't.

Darthv247
04/18/2017, 05:48 AM
i would remove the support u added in the front to give yourself more access for maintenance. look at the stock stands. they have less support and are fine.

Cammunoz
04/24/2017, 12:31 AM
Here is an update on all my live stock they all seem to be doing better then they were in my tankhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170424/ba17815920a622a2e71c1279cf78d80a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170424/c92e38ac80e91c7b26e19befb0899fa8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170424/8cddbfccf6473023d5c9a035c228c0e8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170424/3c1e84f4f43a170f7be174b7d9648b7b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170424/6d43ac104101af77fb006a94c2b1256e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170424/44e39eb421072ded12e65d4f00e3c202.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170424/3cda857435d90435284a160eae9c63db.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170424/fb6d4bd6b11dd6d182558e65fdaea637.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170424/9a619b5673ccca31faf4f4de6f67939f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170424/218d07781aa42d10363fc183e1bc1c59.jpg


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Darthv247
04/26/2017, 08:25 AM
very nice. Maybe i missed it earlier. what is the plan fir flow in the DT? you have some real nice coral.

Cammunoz
04/26/2017, 08:30 AM
very nice. Maybe i missed it earlier. what is the plan fir flow in the DT? you have some real nice coral.



Im planning that out not sure i may extend the return nozzles or make a diy return out of pvc tubes and attach T elbows? I am a little concerned about the flow. I am thinking along the lines of this?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170426/0c2f7e317449398d43e5b17b07a8ce85.jpg


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Darthv247
04/29/2017, 02:26 AM
cool. i wouldnt count on the return pump for the flow in the tank. sump should only be processing just enough water for the skimmers needs. Maybe a few powerheads or a wavemaker in the tank. Depending on what coral you plan on. The flow in tank will need to be more than the sumps flow through.

Cammunoz
04/29/2017, 11:59 AM
cool. i wouldnt count on the return pump for the flow in the tank. sump should only be processing just enough water for the skimmers needs. Maybe a few powerheads or a wavemaker in the tank. Depending on what coral you plan on. The flow in tank will need to be more than the sumps flow through.



Ya i agree i plan to add a couple of powe heads!


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Cammunoz
04/29/2017, 12:01 PM
Ran into an issue when i was adding the top plywood i noticed there is a gap in the middle and it doesnt lay flush. I dont know what to do now? dont mind the crappy top board just for referencehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/4bd1ed723edf80d634bfc9cb216b02fa.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/d313a911b779f00b4f8cb1eab5ac1dcb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/5e3c127887114f3549663f51e3af4cde.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/8482bc589238da05a8cf1752ae5f8ba8.jpg


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Cammunoz
04/30/2017, 07:52 PM
bump?


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Darthv247
05/01/2017, 10:03 PM
I think the cut is just not flush or even. It seems a little jagged causing the gap.