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mike810
05/13/2017, 02:45 AM
Hey guys,

Figure it's time to start a build thread as the tank delivery date is nearing. Some history, been in the hobby about 8 years. Last tank was a 240G peninsula. Long story short, had the 240G setup for three years before we decided to move. Left behind the tank as a show piece for the next owners as I wanted out of the hobby. That was back in July of 2016, come December, I had the itch again. We were now closer to all the good fish stores so I put in a order for a new tank.

My old 240G build thread can be found here: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2371868.

Now onto the new build,
Tank: 8x3x2, low iron, Euro brace top & bottom
Stand, 10x3x3, front glass doors, apex panel on one side
2x ATI Hybrid PM
4x MP40QD
2x Tunze 6255
New Apex
KHG Alkalinity Monitor
RE Deluxe 250
RE ATO reservoir
RE Dosing containers
RE Dream Box 8D
RE RD3 230w Return pump
RE RD3 80w reactor pumps
RE 5L & 2.5L reactors
GHL Doser Master & Slave
BRS 150 GPD, booster pump, auto flush
50w Pentair Aquatics UV Sterilizer

Here some pics. I already have pretty much all the equipment except for the tank and stand. Some equipment not pictured. Still wanting to buy more toys. Probably some equipment I forgot to list.

Some pics of the Dreambox being built
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Finished product

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ATO Reservoir and dosing containers

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mike810
05/13/2017, 02:57 AM
This is a sketch up of the tank and stand

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Some of the equipment that has been collecting dust waiting for the tank to arrive

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KHG Alk Monitor
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Some of the plumbing, I have bought a lot more

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Eight bags of Tropic Eden grand select sand,some Fritz RPM salt and Bio-spira to kick start the cycle once the tank is here
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Panworld pump for the mixing station

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75g RODI & SW containers

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300 pounds of pukani and shelf rock

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That's pretty much it for now. Still waiting on some more equipment to arrive along with a shed to house the SW mixing station. More pics to come as they arrive.

FernandesReef
05/13/2017, 03:34 AM
Subbed...let's go baby!!![emoji482]


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coylums
05/13/2017, 07:21 AM
[emoji322] Can't wait to follow along!


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Joe0813
05/13/2017, 07:28 AM
That sump is awesome

Ryan Darilek
05/13/2017, 11:51 AM
Living vicariously through you!! Absolutely looking forward to this!

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FullBoreReefer
05/13/2017, 11:17 PM
:bigeyes::bigeyes:

ReefPharmer
05/13/2017, 11:26 PM
Top notch equipment. Looking forward to it

ReefKeeper64
05/13/2017, 11:53 PM
Hey Mike, I love the last tank you had at your old house and all the new gear you have is what dreams are made of. Subscribed!

mike810
05/14/2017, 01:07 AM
Subbed...let's go baby!!![emoji482]


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Thanks for tagging along!


[emoji322] Can't wait to follow along!


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:dance:

That sump is awesome

Thank you! The build quality is amazing.

Living vicariously through you!! Absolutely looking forward to this!

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lol thanks


:bigeyes::bigeyes:

:rollface:

Top notch equipment. Looking forward to it

Thanks!

Hey Mike, I love the last tank you had at your old house and all the new gear you have is what dreams are made of. Subscribed!

Thank you! Appreciate the kind words.

mike810
05/14/2017, 01:31 AM
The shed came in today so I got right to work putting it together. The delivery guys delivered the shed to the wrong house! Luckily, my neighbor was nice enough to let me know.

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Seeing how much space I'll have to work with once the tanks are in.

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Comes with it's own skylite :thumbsup:

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Done, was pretty easy and straight forward.

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Waiting for the plumbing parts to come in for the mixing station. Should be here in the next few days. Still need to purchase an EB8, PM2 and probes for the SW container. I'll also be adding a break out box. Might want to try doing automatic water changes so I'll need some float switches for the sw container. Right now I'm thinking I may use the apex DOS for the awc. I've read many people are using it with great success. One issue I'm concerned about is longevity of the DOS using it in this fashion.

ReefKeeper64
05/14/2017, 08:17 AM
A 4 port GHL 2.1 doser will serve you well for automatic water changes. The 2.1 is designed for water changes and is heavy duty.With your size tank GHL recommends dedicating a 4 port unit to insure longevity. Dedicate 2 ports for water in and 2 for water out.

ycnibrc
05/14/2017, 11:15 AM
Lol look too familiar373399
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d2mini
05/14/2017, 12:56 PM
Looking good! That sump is huuuuuuge. lol

My shed (same company) has been up for over a year now and holding up well.
The only thing I dislike about it is the way the doors attach to the main body. Once in a while a hinge may pop off.

Arkayology
05/14/2017, 10:12 PM
Wow, what a great looking build. Definitely following along!

imjdoggie
05/15/2017, 12:42 PM
Love Huntington Beach, congrats!!! Cant wait to see what you are doing.

mike810
05/16/2017, 02:11 AM
A 4 port GHL 2.1 doser will serve you well for automatic water changes. The 2.1 is designed for water changes and is heavy duty.With your size tank GHL recommends dedicating a 4 port unit to insure longevity. Dedicate 2 ports for water in and 2 for water out.

I really like the 2.1 doser, it may be an option. AWC is not a priority until I get everything else up and running. Adding a doser or pump to do AWC will be fairly simple down the road.




Lol look too familiar373399
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Told ya in your thread that I had a similar set up going. How are you liking Irvine vs. HB?



Looking good! That sump is huuuuuuge. lol

My shed (same company) has been up for over a year now and holding up well.
The only thing I dislike about it is the way the doors attach to the main body. Once in a while a hinge may pop off.


Yes it is! That's why I made the stand an extra 2' longer so I would have more room in the stand. I wish the hinges would pop off easy. The area where the shed will sit is very narrow and the doors will not open all the way. I will probably have to take the nuts and bolts off the hinges so I can pop the door off when needed.

I had a cube years ago and copied your stand design of your cube! I recently skimmed thru your current thread. Nice setup you got going there. We also moved from the city to the suburbs, after three years, we couldn't take it anymore and moved back to the city but this time by the beach. Luckily, we didn't have to give up square footage but gained a few hundred.


Wow, what a great looking build. Definitely following along!

Thanks for tagging along!

Love Huntington Beach, congrats!!! Cant wait to see what you are doing.

Thank you! We are loving HB also. The temperature here is perfect year round. It was always warm at my old house and average temps for summer was in the 90's.





I just got word today that my tank is ready to be delivered this coming Thursday!! :dance: Will update with pics once the tank is here. It's been a long five months. Plumbing for the mixing station will be here Tuesday so I'm going to try to get on top of that right away.

ycnibrc
05/16/2017, 09:06 AM
I really like the 2.1 doser, it may be an option. AWC is not a priority until I get everything else up and running. Adding a doser or pump to do AWC will be fairly simple down the road.






Told ya in your thread that I had a similar set up going. How are you liking Irvine vs. HB?






Yes it is! That's why I made the stand an extra 2' longer so I would have more room in the stand. I wish the hinges would pop off easy. The area where the shed will sit is very narrow and the doors will not open all the way. I will probably have to take the nuts and bolts off the hinges so I can pop the door off when needed.

I had a cube years ago and copied your stand design of your cube! I recently skimmed thru your current thread. Nice setup you got going there. We also moved from the city to the suburbs, after three years, we couldn't take it anymore and moved back to the city but this time by the beach. Luckily, we didn't have to give up square footage but gained a few hundred.




Thanks for tagging along!



Thank you! We are loving HB also. The temperature here is perfect year round. It was always warm at my old house and average temps for summer was in the 90's.





I just got word today that my tank is ready to be delivered this coming Thursday!! :dance: Will update with pics once the tank is here. It's been a long five months. Plumbing for the mixing station will be here Tuesday so I'm going to try to get on top of that right away.



I miss HB weather it's cooler than Irvine. Congrats on your tank arriving. If u need any help let me know I'm free every day no more work lol


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Jadams
05/16/2017, 09:13 AM
Beautiful build! Im also in HB if you need help moving the tank :thumbsup:

imjdoggie
05/16/2017, 09:17 AM
Please tell me none of you live right on the Strand? That is my dream to retire there..............

ca1ore
05/16/2017, 09:21 AM
That's a fine looking sump - almost a shame to put water in it :lol:.

BTW, you might want to ask the mods tp move this to the large tank forum. lots of 'insane' company there.

serenity
05/16/2017, 12:42 PM
I just love RE and how everything they make is a piece of art work. I look forward to watching your build!

Chris_S
05/16/2017, 10:27 PM
Joining a great thread!

mike810
05/17/2017, 12:16 AM
I miss HB weather it's cooler than Irvine. Congrats on your tank arriving. If u need any help let me know I'm free every day no more work lol


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Life must be good! The manufacturer is delivering straight to my house and my LFS will have his guys here to move in the tank, but now I know who to call for help. HAHA

Beautiful build! Im also in HB if you need help moving the tank :thumbsup:

Thanks, I have movers in place. Will hit you up if anything, thanks for the offer.

Please tell me none of you live right on the Strand? That is my dream to retire there..............

Not quite, I'm about a mile inland. Close enough I'd say..

That's a fine looking sump - almost a shame to put water in it :lol:.

BTW, you might want to ask the mods tp move this to the large tank forum. lots of 'insane' company there.

Thanks, it's been sitting around for a couple months so I need to dust it off.

I just love RE and how everything they make is a piece of art work. I look forward to watching your build!

RE definitely makes quality stuff.

Joining a great thread!

Thanks for tagging along Chris.

mike810
05/17/2017, 12:55 AM
Got a shipment today, the UV sterilizer and plumbing parts came in for the mixing station. I made two mistakes when placing the order for the plumbing. I ordered a slip x slip union instead of slip by thread for the pan world pump. I also ordered a bulk head instead of a uniseal. For some reason, I thought the top of the containers were horizontally flat, it's sitting at a slight angle. So I'll have to place another order for the two slip by thread unions and a uniseal. I'm trying to look for a used EB8 and PM2 for the shed but haven't had any luck. May just add these to the order also.

I went to work on the mixing station and got everything dry fitted. Will glue everything together when the unions and uniseal arrive.

This thing is huge!

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Plumbing Parts

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Cam lever, this thing is pretty cool. I'm going to have two sets of hoses, one to pump SW all the way back into the house for larger water changes when necessary and a short hose to fill up buckets with SW or RO water when. The cam lever is sort of like a quick disconnect.

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Here is the mixing station dry fitted. I didn't complete the top portion, waiting for the correct parts to get here. I will have to trim some of the pipes to get the tanks to sit a little closer together before gluing. There's not much space in the shed.

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ycnibrc
05/17/2017, 12:58 AM
Are u going to plumb the chiller in the shed too


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mike810
05/17/2017, 01:07 AM
Are u going to plumb the chiller in the shed too


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As of right now, I have no plans to use a chiller. I've never needed one in the past even when living in Corona with outside temps in the 90's. I rather turn on the A/C and cool down my whole house instead of just the tank with a chiller.

I think the hottest it's gotten here at my house was 82 degrees in the summer!

ycnibrc
05/17/2017, 01:15 AM
I run my reef at 77 so I always need a chiller even though with all the DC pumps heat always found its way to heat up the tank


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Chris_S
05/17/2017, 01:22 AM
Got a shipment today, the UV sterilizer and plumbing parts came in for the mixing station. I made two mistakes when placing the order for the plumbing. I ordered a slip x slip union instead of slip by thread for the pan world pump. I also ordered a bulk head instead of a uniseal. For some reason, I thought the top of the containers were horizontally flat, it's sitting at a slight angle. So I'll have to place another order for the two slip by thread unions and a uniseal. I'm trying to look for a used EB8 and PM2 for the shed but haven't had any luck. May just add these to the order also.

I went to work on the mixing station and got everything dry fitted. Will glue everything together when the unions and uniseal arrive.

This thing is huge!

https://s25.postimg.org/4jgjqp8un/IMG_2848.jpg
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Plumbing Parts

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Cam lever, this thing is pretty cool. I'm going to have two sets of hoses, one to pump SW all the way back into the house for larger water changes when necessary and a short hose to fill up buckets with SW or RO water when. The cam lever is sort of like a quick disconnect.

https://s25.postimg.org/fyhm92akv/IMG_2850.jpg
https://s25.postimg.org/5pp538mj3/IMG_2851.jpg

Here is the mixing station dry fitted. I didn't complete the top portion, waiting for the correct parts to get here. I will have to trim some of the pipes to get the tanks to sit a little closer together before gluing. There's not much space in the shed.

https://s25.postimg.org/ojay08kr3/IMG_2852.jpg

Definitely liking the red PVC pipe. It's a nice touch.

JaySchulz
05/17/2017, 02:28 AM
I'd love to hear more info on the KHG Alk Monitor. Are you using the dosing feature as your only method of maintaining the tanks KH? Or are you using a calcium reactor in conjunction? Does the unit require a certain bi carbonate solution?

I'm looking forward to following your build and it definitely looks like you are off to a great start.

mike810
05/18/2017, 02:11 AM
I run my reef at 77 so I always need a chiller even though with all the DC pumps heat always found its way to heat up the tank


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Hopefully, fans will be enough for me.

Definitely liking the red PVC pipe. It's a nice touch.

Thanks! :thumbsup:

I'd love to hear more info on the KHG Alk Monitor. Are you using the dosing feature as your only method of maintaining the tanks KH? Or are you using a calcium reactor in conjunction? Does the unit require a certain bi carbonate solution?

I'm looking forward to following your build and it definitely looks like you are off to a great start.

I only plan to use the KHG as a monitor only and will adjust my doser accordingly. If I needed to, I can adjust my doser from my phone or laptop.

If you were to use the KHG to help supplement your alk until you adjust your doser or Calrx, you would have to make up a solution with baking soda per the manual's instruction. Currently you cannot use your own alk solution to dose as the KHG is set to dose accordingly based on the strength of the baking soda solution.

They are coming out with a monitor only version if you don't plan to use it to dose your tank.

There is a big thread on another forum regarding the KHG if you're interested in more info, PM me.

mike810
05/19/2017, 02:50 AM
Tank and stand is in the house and my monkey in the tank inspecting it.

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mike810
05/19/2017, 05:44 AM
Question, is it a bad idea to plumb the UV sterilizer off the return and dump it back into the return section? I know I will be recycling some sterilized water back into the UV but will it deminish the UV's performance drastically?

Chris_S
05/19/2017, 06:39 AM
What a great idea for a tank and stand design. It looks so inviting you want to grab a drink and take a chair at your water bar.

Is that the 72 liter sized RE water tank? I had no idea that their water tanks also include internal LED lighting, like the Dreambox itself has.

cincyjim
05/19/2017, 07:11 AM
This is an awesome build! Please keep on informing us :)

ycnibrc
05/19/2017, 08:43 AM
Question, is it a bad idea to plumb the UV sterilizer off the return and dump it back into the return section? I know I will be recycling some sterilized water back into the UV but will it deminish the UV's performance drastically?

Hi Mike the main purpose for the UV light is to clarity the water so I don't think u need to return it straight to the main tank. Regarding parasite I don't think UV light can do much to kill it. I plumb my UV outlet to the frag tank and return to the filter sock

ycnibrc
05/19/2017, 08:53 AM
Hey Mike u didn't mention what type of reef u going to keep. But for the volume of your tank it's will be tough to keep up with alkalinity dosing in the future when your coral are growing to colonies size. I only use my doser to supplements calcium and magnesium but my geo cal reactor keep my alk stable at 7dkh

Snaredrum
05/19/2017, 09:19 AM
Excited to see this come together.

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jmad147
05/21/2017, 11:34 AM
Awesome might be an understatement :eek2:

Always love to see a detailed build thread, thanks for sharing.

mike810
05/22/2017, 02:23 AM
What a great idea for a tank and stand design. It looks so inviting you want to grab a drink and take a chair at your water bar.

Is that the 72 liter sized RE water tank? I had no idea that their water tanks also include internal LED lighting, like the Dreambox itself has.

It's the 95 liter water tank. I had RE put leds in the dream box, water tank and dosing containers. I have a sofa right in front of the tank, I predict I will be taking a lot of naps there.

This is an awesome build! Please keep on informing us :)

Will do!

Hey Mike u didn't mention what type of reef u going to keep. But for the volume of your tank it's will be tough to keep up with alkalinity dosing in the future when your coral are growing to colonies size. I only use my doser to supplements calcium and magnesium but my geo cal reactor keep my alk stable at 7dkh

It will be SPS dominant with some LPS and very few softies. I will start off with the doser since I already have it on hand. I'll try kalk when demand rises or make the switch to a Calrx when necessary.

Excited to see this come together.

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Awesome might be an understatement :eek2:

Always love to see a detailed build thread, thanks for sharing.

Thanks for tagging along!

mike810
05/22/2017, 02:53 AM
High and low float switches for the ATO container. There's also a float valve and PMUP install. I will have an RODI line run from the shed to the ATO container. I will be installing a solenoid to automatically shut off the RODI when full. The lower switch will send me a text when the water gets low. Then I can go into the Apex and turn it on, the high switch will trip the solenoid, turn off the RODI and text me so I can manually turn a valve to shut off the line completely. The float valve will be an emergency. There will also be another emergency shut off I haven't installed yet. I'll take a pic once that is setup. I do not feel comfortable letting the Apex automatically fill the ATO container.

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High and low float switches for the sump. One of the float switch bracket broke so I'll have to fix that. I may switch to the Neptune ATK once that becomes available. I can't get the image to flip correctly. :(

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Float valve for the ATO line going into the sump.

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Probes installed.

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LED lights for the stand

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LED lights installed in the stand
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Magnetic switches installed on every right door to turn automatically turn on the LED lights in the stand,sump,ato container and dosing containers.

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Apex panel nearly complete. Waiting to finish the plumbing and MP40 driver holders to arrive before mounting to the panel. I left a space open between the WXM module and breakout box for the FMM module I plan to get in the future. I'll begin programming the Apex in Fusion.

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mike810
05/22/2017, 02:55 AM
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Was able to hide a lot of the cords. I'll have to buy some cord raceways to mount to the back of the apex panel. Once I mount the four mp40s, two tunzes 6255 and vortech battery back up, I'll have a ton more cords and power adapters I need to manage.

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Installed a light, the RODI unit, booster pump, pressure switch and auto flush in the shed. Waiting on a EB8 and PM2 to arrive. What do you guys do with the probes in the SW container? Do you just let it dangle at the bottom of the tank? I plan to install a temp probe and salinity probe. Waiting on more RO lines to come in so I can run lines from the intake to the RODI unit and the RO waste line to the drains. BRS shipping department has been seeing my name pretty often, LOL. I will also run an RO line into the house to the ATO container.


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Some non reef related news. I got word that the exhaust I've been waiting weeks for will be arriving Tuesday!!! :dance: The month of May is turning out to be a great month, getting a lot of new toys. Not so great on the wallet, there's a big burning hole in it. :spin2:

cincyjim
05/22/2017, 05:55 AM
That's a very nice looking setup! This is going to look great I'm sure.

ycnibrc
05/22/2017, 09:06 AM
Hey Mike regarding the salinity probe I used it and I have to tell u they are not that accurate if u relied on it to mix your salt u asking for trouble. Monitor the salinity in the tank may be a better task for it. With my system the apex only monitor temp, salinity, pH but I don't use it to control. For temp I use 2 ranco controller heat/cool. With my cal reactor I use Alan le regulator and I dial it so it never turn on and off the apex only shut down co2 when it pass 6.5 ph in reactor. Apex is a great controller however it can fail and if u relied on it to control your tank then crash can happened.

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mike810
05/22/2017, 11:10 PM
That's a very nice looking setup! This is going to look great I'm sure.

Thank you!

Hey Mike regarding the salinity probe I used it and I have to tell u they are not that accurate if u relied on it to mix your salt u asking for trouble. Monitor the salinity in the tank may be a better task for it. With my system the apex only monitor temp, salinity, pH but I don't use it to control. For temp I use 2 ranco controller heat/cool. With my cal reactor I use Alan le regulator and I dial it so it never turn on and off the apex only shut down co2 when it pass 6.5 ph in reactor. Apex is a great controller however it can fail and if u relied on it to control your tank then crash can happened.

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The probes going into the SW container will not be used to control salinity or anything like that, its more for a quick glance for info. Figure I'll just add them since I needed a PM2 out there to add a breakout box for float switches. Salinity will still be manually checked before WC along with other parameters. I always have another thermometer in the DT and SE container to cross check.

ycnibrc
05/22/2017, 11:17 PM
I thought u use the probe to mix salt

mike810
05/29/2017, 03:26 AM
Been a little busy but was able to get some stuff done. I am hoping to get the tank wet by the end of the week.


I wasn't planning on building a base for the shed but it being made out of plastic and the floor it's resting on has a slope to a drain, it was flexing like crazy. Quick trip to Home Depot and we have a base.

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I have quite a few extension cords behind the tank because a lot of the cords wasn't long enough to reach the 8-9 ft to the Apex panel so I bought these. It's made out of silicone and creates a water tight seal between the two cords. These are used for outdoor application.

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This outlet sits directly behind the tank and right under a return line. I wasn't comfortable leaving it as is so I installed a outdoor weather proof outlet.

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KHG and leak dectector in place. The leak detector will cut off the RODI water supply to the ATO container if it senses a leak. I will have a solenoid in place to shut off the water when the high level float switch gets triggered. If the solenoid is stuck on, the float valve should cut off the water. If the float valve fails, this leak detector is my last line of defense to prevent a flood.

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Here is what the Apex panel looks like.

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Here is what the back of the Apex panel looks like. A good majority of the cords hidden away. I hate cords and it was a task hiding all the cords that comes with having a large tank.

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I played around with the rocks and this was the scape I came up with. My last tank, I went with three pillars and minimal rock. I'm a fish guys first and all the fishes in my previous 240G had literally no where to sleep. The smaller fishes were able to fit into some of the small crevices but my larger tangs had no where to sleep. There also wasn't much space for corals. So the focus this time around was to make a lot of caves, crevices for the larger fish to sleep and more space for tons of SPS corals.

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ycnibrc
05/29/2017, 11:18 AM
Love the apex panel I wish I have the time to install my apex better. Is the blue line the edge off the tank? The rock scape look pretty close to the glass

Heuristic
05/29/2017, 11:26 AM
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ArmanS
05/29/2017, 02:18 PM
Great build.

Question! Who built your stand?

Thanks

solitude127
05/29/2017, 09:52 PM
Great stuff. I can't wait to hear feedback on the kh guardian.

dorkymk3
05/30/2017, 03:13 AM
This is a very well thought out build. Looking forward to seeing this wet in action.

mike810
05/31/2017, 01:54 AM
Love the apex panel I wish I have the time to install my apex better. Is the blue line the edge off the tank? The rock scape look pretty close to the glass

There is about 4-5" of space between the glass and rock. I will probably scoot the rocks in a bit when I place them in the tank.

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Thanks for joining!

Great build.

Question! Who built your stand?

Thanks

Thank you! Crystal Dynamics built the tank and stand. Trent said it was his first stand with the frosted glass doors. I think he did a great job. It has soft closing doors, magnetic push release and removable hinges. Overall build quality is good. The silicone work on the tank itself is also good. Not a bubble or air pocket anywhere to be found. I would say Crystal Dynamics does better quality than Leemars as I've had two Leemars tank and there was always bubbles in the silicone.

Great stuff. I can't wait to hear feedback on the kh guardian.

Thank you, if you do a google search for it, there is a massive thread/review of it else where.

This is a very well thought out build. Looking forward to seeing this wet in action.

Thank you, months of planning went into this build so I am happy to see it come to fruition.

mpderksen
05/31/2017, 07:51 PM
Couple of questions, if you don't mind:
1. What is your Apex panel material?
2. Can I see more pictures and description of your mixing station? I'm about to redo mine and looking for ideas.
3. What tablet are you using for Fusion? I was going to order a basic Amazon Fire for mine.

mike810
06/01/2017, 01:36 AM
Couple of questions, if you don't mind:
1. What is your Apex panel material?
2. Can I see more pictures and description of your mixing station? I'm about to redo mine and looking for ideas.
3. What tablet are you using for Fusion? I was going to order a basic Amazon Fire for mine.

Hey,

Not a problem,

1. The Apex panel is just plywood that has been sanded and stained. The panel is lifted away from the stand to run wires to the side, there is also a cut out in the bottom middle of the panel to run wires underneath. I did not want to drill any holes into the wood as I planned to mount things like power adapters behind the panel.

2. Mixing station is two 75G tanks and the pump is a panworld 50PX-X - 1110 GPH. All 1" plumbing and fittings. I'll get some pics when there is still daylight out. If you have any questions, please let me know.

3. I am using a Microsoft Surface (windows tablet). I chose this instead of a ipad or kindle so I can plug my ATI hybrid PM to the tablet and make a light schedule for it.

mike810
06/01/2017, 01:40 AM
Neptune ATK came in today.

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I had to re-orientate the optical eyes and float valve so it can better fit in my sump. The wires for the optical eyes were just long enough so I can it over to the Apex panel where the FMM is located. Ideally, I would like to have enough slack so that the wires can run along the floor and out of sight until it reach the FMM but it's currently shooting straight across the back of the sump and the space between the dosing containers and Apex panel has two wires in the air. Not ideal but I don't want to cut into the wires to extend it.

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A box full of socks. It wasn't easy finding socks that fit the Dreambox.

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ClownsRCoo
06/01/2017, 09:44 AM
Pics aren't working for me but where did you find socks that fit? Please send me info as I do not want to buy socks @$16/ ea ever again.


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mike810
06/02/2017, 01:31 AM
Couple of questions, if you don't mind:
1. What is your Apex panel material?
2. Can I see more pictures and description of your mixing station? I'm about to redo mine and looking for ideas.
3. What tablet are you using for Fusion? I was going to order a basic Amazon Fire for mine.

Here a couple pics of the SW mixing station. The shed is located on the side of the house so it's pretty narrow there so I couldn't get a full shot.

Just two 75G tanks run by a panworld pump. Will be adding float switches to both RODI and SW tank to shut off pumps when water is low.

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6 Stage BRS water saver, booster pump, pressure switch, auto flush, EB8, PM2, break out box and HM TDS sensors for water in, water after RO membranes, water after first DI canister and water after second DI canister.

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mike810
06/02/2017, 01:33 AM
Pics aren't working for me but where did you find socks that fit? Please send me info as I do not want to buy socks @$16/ ea ever again.


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My buddy got them for me. All the ones I ordered didn't fit but he came thru for me. PM me if you're interested, I'll see if he can get anymore.

mike810
06/02/2017, 01:38 AM
99% of the plumbing done, just need to glue the drains and plumbing is done. Rock is in the tank and sand will go in tomorrow after the drains are done. I have to remove the overflow box to finish up the drains so I don't want to be stepping in sand. Once that is done, will do a leak test with RODI water. I'm currently making water now in the shed, I can store 150 gallons of water. If all goes well, I'll add salt to the sump to bring the salinity up and get the cycle going.

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Ryan Darilek
06/02/2017, 02:03 AM
Looking great Mike!! I'm excited for you and can't wait to see this all come together soon!

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cincyjim
06/02/2017, 05:49 AM
This is very nice and well thought out. I can't wait to see how it looks with water, sand, and rock! You're doing a great job!

mike810
06/03/2017, 01:32 AM
Looking great Mike!! I'm excited for you and can't wait to see this all come together soon!

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Thanks Ryan, everything is coming along nicely.

This is very nice and well thought out. I can't wait to see how it looks with water, sand, and rock! You're doing a great job!


Thanks Jim, I love it when a plan comes together. Especially when it involved months of planning. :beer:

mike810
06/03/2017, 01:36 AM
We have water!

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The water making saga to be continued.

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I love this cam lever, wish I found out about it in my previous builds. Makes storing or changing out the hose much easier. Getting all the water out of the hose is much easier when you can quickly discount it from the plumbing.

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herbklee
06/03/2017, 09:20 AM
nice!


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abrooks12376
06/03/2017, 09:39 AM
Most excellent build! We have similar taste in cabinet doors;)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170603/b14fa1df1e48f9f236d51ca82d980955.jpg

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Hudds
06/03/2017, 09:52 AM
Great set up!

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locito277
06/03/2017, 09:57 AM
Whoa!


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mike810
06/05/2017, 03:06 AM
nice!


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Thanks!

Most excellent build! We have similar taste in cabinet doors;)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170603/b14fa1df1e48f9f236d51ca82d980955.jpg

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Looks great! Good luck with your build.

Great set up!

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Thank you!

Whoa!


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I know right? lol :beer:

mike810
06/05/2017, 03:13 AM
So I have some good news and bad news. I'll start with the good. I got up this morning (more like noon) and filled up the tank full along with the sump. Ran the tank and checked for leaks, a couple minor leaks from the unions which I took care of right away. I fired up the skimmer and it started producing a good foam right away even with the pump on the lowest setting and pipe wide open. The water is a nasty yellow/green and stinks. The pukani rock is dirrrrrtay. I checked the ammonia and got a good solid green reading via API test. I threw in 5 bottles of bio-spira and I was on cloud 9. Today was the day the cycle begins!

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mike810
06/05/2017, 03:28 AM
Now on to the bad news.

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I know some of the pics are hard to see. The tank was full and running for a full day. Around 10pm while working on the tank, I noticed some bubbles in the eurobrace silicone which I did not remember seeing before. This made me check all the silicone. The silicone on the eurobrace that runs 8ft from side to side of the tank started separating from the side panes. The right side front and rear eurobrace had a couple bubbles in them. When I went to inspect the left side, the eurobrace completely separated from the side panes. Needless to say, this made me extremely nervous and thankfully, I had the builders cell. I sent him a text with pictures and he told me to partially drain the tank and he will come over tomorrow morning to inspect. Hopefully he can fix it with the tank in place, otherwise he will have to take the tank back to his shop.

I went from cloud 9 to rock bottom in a day. I just dumped in a box and half of fritz rpm salt, 5 bottles of bio-spira. That's a lot of money down the drain literally. Not to mention all the wasted rodi and rodi waste water down the drain. The rodi also burned thru half a canister of DI resin. I'm so bummed, this build has officially come to a screeching halt. There are still some little things I can do in the shed and under the tank but the tank itself will not be filled for another 3-4 weeks. Apparently that is how long the silicone needs to fully cure and the eurobrace was freshly put in place before tank delivery.

abrooks12376
06/05/2017, 06:32 AM
Oh nooo, that's bad news man. I really hope he can remedy this situation for you. Ime this will require a complete strip down and reseal :(

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cincyjim
06/05/2017, 07:29 AM
I feel so bad for you. I can't imagine what you must be going through after all you have done to the point of having water in the tank and the start of the cycle. I truly hope you are able to get this resolved soon. On a good note though, I'm glad you caught this now instead of later.

mike810
06/06/2017, 02:42 AM
Oh nooo, that's bad news man. I really hope he can remedy this situation for you. Ime this will require a complete strip down and reseal :(

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Yeah it sucks. It's only affecting the 8ft eurobrace so the builder is coming today in the morning to inspect and possibly repair. The seams holding the panes together still looks good so hopefully it can be repaired on the spot. I don't feel like removing 200+ pounds of rock and sand (dry weight), gotta weigh a lot more now that it's wet.

I feel so bad for you. I can't imagine what you must be going through after all you have done to the point of having water in the tank and the start of the cycle. I truly hope you are able to get this resolved soon. On a good note though, I'm glad you caught this now instead of later.

It was a downer for sure Jim but gotta keep going. I am hoping the builder can fix the problem when he comes and not need to remove the tank. I am very glad I caught this sooner than later when there is live stock in the tank or worse, having the tank fail.

mike810
06/06/2017, 02:52 AM
While the tank sits partially empty, I went on to work on some things in the shed. The shed is about 45 ft away from the tank so I had to order two 30 ft aquabus extension cables. This means the aquabus connection will be sitting outside. There is a lot of moisture in the air here at night living so close to the beach so I ghetto rigged this weather proof box out of tupperware for the aquabus connection. Dremeled the corners to fit the cable and then caulked it to seal it off.

I also pinned all the rodi lines to the house for a cleaner look. I installed a pmup into the RODI tank along with a float switch to shut off the pmup and text me when the water is low. Also installed a magnetic switch to have the lights turn on when I open the right door of the shed. The left door has pins on the top and bottom to lock down the door and I would always have to undo the pins to get the door open and then turn on the lights. It was a hassle.

Under the tank, I installed a neptune solenoid to cut off water from the RODI PMUP. I forgot to take a pic of that. I'll update this thread after the builder sees what he can do about the eurobracing.

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solitude127
06/06/2017, 03:44 PM
hopefully you got a favorable response the the manufacturer but better to find it now than 6 months from now.

mpderksen
06/07/2017, 12:27 AM
While the tank sits partially empty, I went on to work on some things in the shed. The shed is about 45 ft away from the tank so I had to order two 30 ft aquabus extension cables. This means the aquabus connection will be sitting outside. There is a lot of moisture in the air here at night living so close to the beach so I ghetto rigged this weather proof box out of tupperware for the aquabus connection. Dremeled the corners to fit the cable and then caulked it to seal it off.



I also pinned all the rodi lines to the house for a cleaner look. I installed a pmup into the RODI tank along with a float switch to shut off the pmup and text me when the water is low. Also installed a magnetic switch to have the lights turn on when I open the right door of the shed. The left door has pins on the top and bottom to lock down the door and I would always have to undo the pins to get the door open and then turn on the lights. It was a hassle.



Under the tank, I installed a neptune solenoid to cut off water from the RODI PMUP. I forgot to take a pic of that. I'll update this thread after the builder sees what he can do about the eurobracing.



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Nice work. I wish I had told you about the site that makes up to 200' Aquabus cables though. Your way will be perfectly fine.
Do you use the external pump to move the fresh water into the Saltwater container? Or does it provide mixing as well? That's the part I'm a bit confused about. Mine is still pretty manual. I have a mixing pump that runs a few minutes each day, but that's about it.

mike810
06/07/2017, 02:06 AM
hopefully you got a favorable response the the manufacturer but better to find it now than 6 months from now.

Yes, I am glad to find this problem now then have the tank fail at a later time. The builder came over this morning to redo the bracing.

Nice work. I wish I had told you about the site that makes up to 200' Aquabus cables though. Your way will be perfectly fine.
Do you use the external pump to move the fresh water into the Saltwater container? Or does it provide mixing as well? That's the part I'm a bit confused about. Mine is still pretty manual. I have a mixing pump that runs a few minutes each day, but that's about it.

That would have been nice to know! The external pump moves fresh water to the SW container. It will also be used for mixing and I'll have the apex turn it on for a few minutes each day when there is SW in there. I'll be adding a float switch in the SW container also to shut the pump off if water gets too low.

mike810
06/07/2017, 02:26 AM
Today after the builder left, I completely drained the tank. I need to wait 3-4 weeks for the adhesive to cure. No point in leaving the tank partially filled as the water was getting more foul everyday. The builder will come back to clean up all the adhesive once it dries a little bit making it easier to clean up.

On Sunday, I tested the water and it read 1ppm of ammonia, that is when I tossed in five bottles of bio-spira. I drained the tank but left water in the sump. I have the skimmer, reactor pump and return pump running so water does not get stagnate. The return pump is just running through the UV sterilizer. I tested the sump water and it had a reading of .50ppm ammonia and 20ppm nitrate, little cycle happening in the sump? I threw in several pieces of pukani rock into the sump.

So I have a GHL doser 2 master and slave. I read that the doser can do 1L/hr. I am thinking about using the slave which has four pumps to do my AWC instead of buying a neptune DOS. I already have a line running from the SW container back into the house. I just need to run a line out to the drain for SW out and calibrate the doser. Anyone use the GHL doser for AWC?

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abrooks12376
06/07/2017, 05:06 AM
Good news it's been addressed, and news.. 3-4 weeks is foreverrrrrr... can you cycle your Dt rock in a barrel in the meantime?

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RogueGrown
06/07/2017, 08:50 AM
Good news it's been addressed, and news.. 3-4 weeks is foreverrrrrr... can you cycle your Dt rock in a barrel in the meantime?

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Why can't you keep the water level just above the rock and away from the new seal. Throw an airstone and some powerheads in it and keep the water moving?

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anbosu
06/07/2017, 10:25 AM
Why can't you keep the water level just above the rock and away from the new seal. Throw an airstone and some powerheads in it and keep the water moving?

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I'm sure for the adhesive to work correctly this time he needs to have no pressure pushing out on the sides of the aquarium, so no water.

mike810
06/08/2017, 02:05 AM
Good news it's been addressed, and news.. 3-4 weeks is foreverrrrrr... can you cycle your Dt rock in a barrel in the meantime?

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Yes, I am glad he was able to fix it on the spot. I did not want to remove all the wet sand and rocks from the display. 3-4 weeks is a long time but I am sure it will fly by. My days are very busy so a week goes by really quick for me. It was a pain getting the rocks into the display so I do not really want to remove it. I'll just wait it out.

Why can't you keep the water level just above the rock and away from the new seal. Throw an airstone and some powerheads in it and keep the water moving?

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That was my initial plan since the builder say to only partially drain the tank. I lowered the two Tunze 6255 to provide flow but the water was getting really nasty. When the builder came to fix the eurobrace, he said the excess moisture might cause the adhesive to take longer to cure also so I just drained it. Also better not to add any pressure to the panes while the adhesive cures.


I'm sure for the adhesive to work correctly this time he needs to have no pressure pushing out on the sides of the aquarium, so no water.

Pretty much and getting rid of a large moisture source will help the adhesive cure faster.

gotkuuipo
07/01/2017, 02:29 PM
Update Mike! Can't wait to see how the build is progressing

mike810
07/02/2017, 02:59 AM
Update Mike! Can't wait to see how the build is progressing

The tank has been in limbo since the eurobracing fiasco. Builder came by Friday to clean up the silicone. He suggested I wait until 7/14 to fill the tank back up so it will be two more weeks. I've kept my sump running with some rocks in it to cure since I drained the tank about 4 weeks ago. I did get some things done while waiting, didn't bother to update since it is just some minor things.

I bought a Bubble Magus doser bracket to mount my GHL Doser.

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I had to cut out a notch so the GHL doser would fit.

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Mounted behind the Apex panel.

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I hung the two ATI PM Hybrid lights. They're heavy!!

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I installed another netpune PMUP to the SW mixing container and ran a line to the sump. This will replace any tank water I remove to acclimate fish or corals. There is a solenoid on this line to shut off flow should the PMUP ever get stuck on. Also a float valve just in case they both fail. There is also a float switch in the SW container to turn off the PMUP , DOS and Panworld mixing pump when water gets low.

Got the Dos hooked up and ran a couple lines into the house and a line to the drain outside. I plan to do 1 gallon a day automatic water changes.

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Here is the tank cleaned up again. Hopefully, no more eurobracing failure. Made two screen tops to keep fish from jumping out.

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I have 150 gallons of RODI water in the shed ready to go. I will add salt and mix it up as the fill date gets closer.

A couple things on my want list. I'm looking at getting a ARID C30 to deal with nutrients. I've read plenty of post about pukani rock constantly leaching po4 for months to a year. I've got plenty of GFO in a 5g bucket but rather not constantly have to change out GFO. GFO is also harsh on the corals so the ARID is a toy I'm planning on picking up soon.

I've been doing a lot of research on calcium reactors and I'm thinking I might pull the trigger on a Dastaco A-3 when demand gets high. I've read nothing but good things about this reactor and it's ease of adjustment and maintenance. Turn a knob to set your alk, doesn't get any easier then that.

Question for you people who store SW on hand for weeks/months. How often do you run your mixing pump and for what duration? I use to simply leave a small powerhead in the container running 24/7 but I rather use the Panworld pump to mix instead.

mike810
07/13/2017, 04:50 AM
I'm getting ready to fill my tank again. I've made about 600 gallons with my new 6 stage water save rodi unit from BRS. I noticed the sediment filter is now really brown and one of the two di canisters is already exhausted.

How many gallons do you guys get out of your filters and di resin?

ycnibrc
07/13/2017, 09:01 AM
The tank has been in limbo since the eurobracing fiasco. Builder came by Friday to clean up the silicone. He suggested I wait until 7/14 to fill the tank back up so it will be two more weeks. I've kept my sump running with some rocks in it to cure since I drained the tank about 4 weeks ago. I did get some things done while waiting, didn't bother to update since it is just some minor things.

I bought a Bubble Magus doser bracket to mount my GHL Doser.

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I had to cut out a notch so the GHL doser would fit.

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Mounted behind the Apex panel.

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I hung the two ATI PM Hybrid lights. They're heavy!!

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I installed another netpune PMUP to the SW mixing container and ran a line to the sump. This will replace any tank water I remove to acclimate fish or corals. There is a solenoid on this line to shut off flow should the PMUP ever get stuck on. Also a float valve just in case they both fail. There is also a float switch in the SW container to turn off the PMUP , DOS and Panworld mixing pump when water gets low.

Got the Dos hooked up and ran a couple lines into the house and a line to the drain outside. I plan to do 1 gallon a day automatic water changes.

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Here is the tank cleaned up again. Hopefully, no more eurobracing failure. Made two screen tops to keep fish from jumping out.

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I have 150 gallons of RODI water in the shed ready to go. I will add salt and mix it up as the fill date gets closer.

A couple things on my want list. I'm looking at getting a ARID C30 to deal with nutrients. I've read plenty of post about pukani rock constantly leaching po4 for months to a year. I've got plenty of GFO in a 5g bucket but rather not constantly have to change out GFO. GFO is also harsh on the corals so the ARID is a toy I'm planning on picking up soon.

I've been doing a lot of research on calcium reactors and I'm thinking I might pull the trigger on a Dastaco A-3 when demand gets high. I've read nothing but good things about this reactor and it's ease of adjustment and maintenance. Turn a knob to set your alk, doesn't get any easier then that.

Question for you people who store SW on hand for weeks/months. How often do you run your mixing pump and for what duration? I use to simply leave a small powerhead in the container running 24/7 but I rather use the Panworld pump to mix instead.

For a big system like yours the arid is not big enough. If u have room add a separate refugium then u can grow cheato and caulerpa. Since I add a refugium to my system with cheato and caulerpa my phosphate is steady .02 to .05. No more GFO I still run some carbon to keep the water clear

solitude127
07/13/2017, 12:07 PM
I'm getting ready to fill my tank again. I've made about 600 gallons with my new 6 stage water save rodi unit from BRS. I noticed the sediment filter is now really brown and one of the two di canisters is already exhausted.

How many gallons do you guys get out of your filters and di resin?

Sediment, I change out 3 months no matter what and then Carbon block, every 6 months and DI resin once my TDS gets to 1 but I'm only making an average of 30g/week. The Sediment and Carbon block do very little to reduce TDS, they're there to protect the membrane.

What the TDS coming out of the membrane and what is the TDS out of the tap?

mike810
07/15/2017, 01:41 AM
For a big system like yours the arid is not big enough. If u have room add a separate refugium then u can grow cheato and caulerpa. Since I add a refugium to my system with cheato and caulerpa my phosphate is steady .02 to .05. No more GFO I still run some carbon to keep the water clear

The Arid C30 is rated for 250-500 gallons. I'm holding off until I see where my nutrient levels are at.

Sediment, I change out 3 months no matter what and then Carbon block, every 6 months and DI resin once my TDS gets to 1 but I'm only making an average of 30g/week. The Sediment and Carbon block do very little to reduce TDS, they're there to protect the membrane.

What the TDS coming out of the membrane and what is the TDS out of the tap?

I may have to adopt your filter change schedule. TDS coming in is 247, after membrane is 7, after first DI canister which I thought was already exhausted is 2 and then 0 after the last Di canister.

mike810
07/15/2017, 01:47 AM
Water is in the tank! Euro brace seams are holding. So glad to finally have water in the tank again but at the same time nervous after what happened the first go around. Tank has 348 gallons of water including sump, rocks and sand. This time I kept track of exactly how many gallons was going in the tank.

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Trying to tune the skimmer.

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When I drained the tank, I kept the sump going and added rocks into the sump. I got a good ammonia reading from the sump. Tested a week later and there was zero ammonia and nitrites. There was a lot of nitrates. I'll be testing the tank again for ammonia in a few days.

solitude127
07/15/2017, 04:47 PM
I may have to adopt your filter change schedule. TDS coming in is 247, after membrane is 7, after first DI canister which I thought was already exhausted is 2 and then 0 after the last Di canister.

The membrane probably still needs to break in. I changed mine out and initially, my TDS out of the membrane was 11 and then after a couple of months use, it's now down to 4. Give it a bit, I'm sure it'll come down but 7 isn't too bad

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

mike810
07/20/2017, 03:09 AM
When I filled the tank, I dumped in five bottles of Bio-Spira. Next day, I went and purchased three pajama cardinals and a bristletooth tomini tang. All pretty small. Tested for ammonia and nitrites for the next several days and never got a reading. A couple days later I placed an order for seven green/blue chromis and a pair of frost bite clowns (for the wife). When I added the last chromis, it nose dived for the rocks and I haven't seen it since. Been a couple days, I've only seen six chromis at a time unless they're switching place and only six comes out at a time. I'll give it a few more days. I've been testing for ammonia and nitrites and never got a reading, not even the slightest hint of any of the two. I have to say bio-spira works great!!

I used fritz RPM salt and I have to admit, I'm kind of disappointed in the salt. My alk tested at 6.2 via hanna and salifert test kits. I had to dose 210ml of ESV over the course of a several days to bring up the alk to 8.

Calcium tested at 445
No test for magnesium yet.
No3 tested at 10
Po4 was .23ppm so I threw in some GFO a couple days ago. Tonight, tested at .08ppm with hanna ULR. Will keep an eye on po4. I thought the pukani rocks would be leaching a lot more phosphate or maybe that is a lot??

Tonight I seeded the tank with tisbe pods from algaebarn, I'd like to build a good population before adding some wrasse.

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I relocated the doser to the wall. I didn't like the tubing go across from the dosing containers to the doser which was located behind the apex panel then going back across to the sump. I think this looks much better.

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Had to install a fan, it's been a little warm and tank was getting up to 81 degrees. Now the tank is running at 79.5-80 with the fan.

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Can anyone recommend me some gel filters to remove the blue when taking pics with an iphone?

AZReef13
07/20/2017, 08:14 AM
Orange gels

AZReef13
07/20/2017, 08:16 AM
By the way your tank and setup in amazing.....

solitude127
07/20/2017, 11:50 AM
Yeah.. Fish... :) Congrats.
I don't think there's a need for alk dosing just yet. The fish don't really care about Alk, CA, Mg.

ReefKeeper64
07/20/2017, 03:41 PM
Everything is pulling together nicely!

mike810
07/20/2017, 07:15 PM
By the way your tank and setup in amazing.....

Thanks for the recommendation and appreciate the compliment!


Yeah.. Fish... :) Congrats.
I don't think there's a need for alk dosing just yet. The fish don't really care about Alk, CA, Mg.

Thanks! Yeah I know they don't care but figured I'd bring it up anyways incase we stop by a LFS and see something we just had to have. My wife is more impatient than I am. I'm lucky to have her be as interested in this hobby as I am. It's easy to make new purchases lol.

Everything is pulling together nicely!

Thanks buddy, it's been a long wait but everything is going smoothly now.

solitude127
07/21/2017, 10:36 AM
Thanks! Yeah I know they don't care but figured I'd bring it up anyways incase we stop by a LFS and see something we just had to have. My wife is more impatient than I am. I'm lucky to have her be as interested in this hobby as I am. It's easy to make new purchases lol.



Good thinking ahead. :)

scubadan206
07/21/2017, 08:51 PM
I would recommend a few more bacterial starters. It's always good to have more diversity in that area. How do you like the royal exclusive pump? I'm thinking of getting the medium sized one when I can afford it.

mike810
07/21/2017, 09:39 PM
I would recommend a few more bacterial starters. It's always good to have more diversity in that area. How do you like the royal exclusive pump? I'm thinking of getting the medium sized one when I can afford it.

I also added zeovit's zeobac which I forgot to mention. I'll be adding it until the bottle is done. The red dragon pumps are great. Move a ton of water and they're silent. I would recommend them if budget permits.

scubadan206
07/21/2017, 09:46 PM
I've been trading corals to my LFS. The plan is to buy one on store credit. That might not work if they can't get me one though.

mike810
07/22/2017, 02:23 PM
I've been trading corals to my LFS. The plan is to buy one on store credit. That might not work if they can't get me one though.

Good luck with that. I hope you're able to get the pump you want. They're great pumps.

SchnitzelReef
08/02/2017, 09:51 AM
Damn mike. Awesome setup!!!! I'll have to come by some day and check it out.

Might consider adding a dos to your skimmer drain. I have a peristaltic pump in my shed, and i can push a button on my apex to drain the skimmer cup. No need to have it drain to a container under your stand and stink up the place. With my auto neck cleaner and skimmer drain I only remove my skimmer cup every few months.

LuizW13
08/02/2017, 11:40 AM
This is absolutely incredible!

mike810
08/02/2017, 02:04 PM
Damn mike. Awesome setup!!!! I'll have to come by some day and check it out.

Might consider adding a dos to your skimmer drain. I have a peristaltic pump in my shed, and i can push a button on my apex to drain the skimmer cup. No need to have it drain to a container under your stand and stink up the place. With my auto neck cleaner and skimmer drain I only remove my skimmer cup every few months.

That is a freaking great idea Nick. I was going the container route, might have to add a DOS and run another line to the drain.

This is absolutely incredible!

Thank you!

mike810
08/03/2017, 03:01 AM
I got some filters for the phone and took some pics, I think they came out okay. Some pics of the fishes that are currently in the tank.

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I drained the skimmer cup on Monday and installed this quick disconnect valve. There is two valves. I'll be hooking up a container to drain the skimmate into. I'll see how I like this route, If I get tired of emptying the container, I'll hook up my GHL doser to the skimmer cup and run a line out to the drain. I'll have the GHL doser drain out once a day.

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Got this valve so I can get water from the RODI water container without having to purge the pvc pipes of salt water. I have the PMUP in the RODI container pump out rodi water.

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Now getting fresh RODI water is a breeze. No need to purge the pipes of the saltwater.

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ReefKeeper64
08/03/2017, 05:38 PM
Your iphone filter works well. How is it listed in the app store?

mike810
08/04/2017, 02:48 AM
Your iphone filter works well. How is it listed in the app store?

I purchased an Aquariclip. It's not an app, its a filter that clips on the phone and over the camera lens. Upon testing it, I found it to have a major design flaw. The hole for the camera is in the center of the clip and the filter spins to give you differing shades of orange, from light to dark to best suit your needs. With the hole right in the center, it always gave me two shade of orange in one picture. One side of the picture will have the blues completely filtered and the other side will have a hint of blue. So I took the clip and drilled a hole off center to fix this problem.

mike810
08/04/2017, 02:51 AM
When I got home this evening, I tested the DT's alkalinity and it came back at 6.2. I dosed the tank to bring it up to 7.3, I will dose the tank again tomorrow to bring it up to 8dkh. I also tested the water in the SW container and the alkalinity also came back at 6.2, I dosed it to bring it up to 8DKH. Both the tank and SW container CA was 445, MG 1440. Seems like Fritz RPM has low alk, I've gone thru about four boxes of it and each time, alk has been low.

Tonight, I setup the KHG. It took me well over 2 hours to set it up and get it going. When you first setup the KHG, you need to calibrate the PH probe with PH 7 and 4 solution. Plug in the KHG, put the probe in the PH 7 solution and hit buttons 2 and 4 to set, rinse the probe with RODI, pat dry and put it in the PH 4 solution. Hit button 1 and 4 to set.

Your home's network needs to run on DCHP in order to connect to the KHG via it's web interface. I initially had trouble with this step. When you first plug in the KHG, it will try to obtain DCHP, once that happens, it will display the IP address assigned to it and the port number. You need to write down this info and plug it into the address bar in your web browser. I had to constantly reboot the KHG to try to get the IP and port number as the info went away quickly and sometimes it wouldn't get the DCHP. After I was able to log into the KHG, I then setup the timezone, DT water volume, where I like to keep my DKH (8), how much I will allow the KHG to dose a sodium bicarbonate solution at a time after each test.

The KHG will only dose a sodium bicarbonate solution of 1000ML of RODI to 65 grams of dry baking soda. The reagent uses 1500ML of RODI to dilute the reagent. I bought graduated cylinders for this process.

You also have to purge the saltwater in and saltwater out lines, this took awhile to complete. Then you have to purge the reagent in and reagent out lines, this took even longer as the doser only pulls up one drop at a time. Then you gotta purge the sodium bicarbonate in and out lines.

Coralvue recommends you run five test to break it in. See the pictures below of all five test. I also did two test with my Hanna PPM alkalinity tester and two test with salifert's alkalinity tester. Hanna came back both times at 7.28 DKH. Salifert came back twice at 7.3 DKH. The KHG thru all five test came back at 6.93, 7.04 and 7.05. I went with saliferts result and adjusted the KHG's DKH readings. The 6th picture is a test after the adjustment. There is also a picture of the KHG test log. I will post another snapshot of the log after a few days of testing. I have the KHG testing every four hours which is the max time between test. Overall, I'm happy with the KHG and it's repeat-ability.


First test
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Second test
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Third test
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Fourth 5est
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Fifth test
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Final test after adjustment
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Hanna test with the same results twice
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Side note, this skimmer is kicking butt! It sure does earn it's name.
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mike810
08/04/2017, 02:56 AM
Forgot to post a picture of the KHG log.

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mike810
08/04/2017, 08:04 PM
Have you guys ever seen coraline stay purple on dead rock? I don't remember seeing any coraline on the dry pukani rocks I used to start the tank. I am see spots of coraline here and there and think it's pretty early for the tank to start growing it already. I haven't introduced any corals or cleanup crew that may seed the tank with coraline.

Another issue I'm having is something in the tank is using up my ALK. A couple weeks ago, the tank was at 6.2 DKH and I dosed the tank up to 8 DKH. Yesterday, the tank was at 6.2 DKH again and had to does to bring it up. What can use up ALK with no corals in the tank? I'll test for CA and MG and see if those are being used up also.

FullBoreReefer
08/05/2017, 06:37 AM
Sounds like a pain to set that thing up, for the price it should fly itself there and do an auto setup for you, haha

Mortie31
08/05/2017, 09:54 AM
Have you thought of an Avast Davy Jones Skimmer locker, connected up to your Profilux, I use one, with my BK 200, switches the skimmer off when it's full and alarms you through your profilux, one of the best bits of kit I've bought.

mike810
08/05/2017, 11:01 PM
Sounds like a pain to set that thing up, for the price it should fly itself there and do an auto setup for you, haha

I wish it were a breeze but it wasn't. An issue with the initial setup also was that the web interface was really slow. Every time the KHG would reboot, it would make me log back in. However, I didn't know this and would try to command the KHG to do something via the web interface and it would just stall out. Now I've learned to refresh back to the login page when the KHG reboots. It's a pretty simple interface once you're used to everything. Setting up the Apex took some time also with all the codes you have to write.


Have you thought of an Avast Davy Jones Skimmer locker, connected up to your Profilux, I use one, with my BK 200, switches the skimmer off when it's full and alarms you through your profilux, one of the best bits of kit I've bought.

That was my initial plan, to get the large Davy Jones locker. However, my wife put her foot down and said I'm spending wayyyy too much on stuff that isn't really necessary, hence the DIY locker route. I may just ditch the skimmate container altogether and use my GHL doser to drain the skimmer cup everyday into the drain outside.

mike810
08/05/2017, 11:11 PM
This afternoon, I checked on the KHG to find that it had an error readying. SW>ERR, basically telling me the KHG is not getting enough SW into the reaction chamber fast enough to before the test can begin. I did everything stated in the manual to try and correct the problem, no dice. I looked in the reaction chamber and found that the float switch in the reaction chamber was not able to move freely. I could manually remove it but when water filled the chamber, it did not float up by itself. I found there is a magnetic agitator below the float switch, it looks like a little white pill. I took this out and moved it lower down the reaction chamber. This fixed the problem and the KHG finally processed a test without any errors. Each test performed while I was home was double checked with the hanna alkalinity checker and salifert alk test. All test came out very close in results. I'm currently using the KHG to dial in my alk doses. I'm currently dosing 36ml a day of ESV alk even with zero corals in the tank, weird. The KHG is also dosing sodium bicarbonate to try to keep the levels at 8 DKH. Here is a log from today.

08/05 00:44:42 W.131 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.00
08/05 04:38:48 W.132 %0 AK.68.00 KH :7.89
08/05 08:56:23 W.176 KS=55D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :7.88
08/05 12:13:58 RESET !
08/05 12:14:51 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/05 12:15:53 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/05 12:16:23 RESET !
08/05 12:16:52 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/05 12:22:30 RESET !
08/05 12:32:43 W.176 KS=56D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :7.93
08/05 12:34:23 Test KH doser
08/05 12:38:57 RESET !
08/05 12:40:15 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/05 12:41:45 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/05 12:52:56 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/05 16:22:37 RESET !
08/05 16:25:53 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/05 16:30:01 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/05 16:34:42 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/05 16:40:24 RESET !
08/05 16:40:59 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/05 16:48:02 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/05 17:01:16 RESET !
08/05 17:15:10 W.130 KS=38D L%0 S%0 AC_ERR KH :5.52
08/05 17:19:27 RESET !
08/05 17:30:26 W.128 %0 AK.64.00 KH :7.89
08/05 17:53:07 Save New System Environment.
08/05 17:54:01 Save New System Environment.
08/05 17:55:16 Save New System Environment.
08/05 17:55:55 Save New System Environment.
08/05 18:07:15 W.128 %0 AK.95.00 KH :7.74
08/05 18:08:27 Save New System Environment.
08/05 20:41:29 W.129 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :7.99

mike810
08/07/2017, 02:01 AM
Here is the KHG log for today. It's been very accurate and consistent in the result. I cross check the result. I will perform a test while the KHG is doing it's test and the values are always similar. This device makes dialing in a doser a lot easier. However, I'm up to 96 ml of alk and ca. I literally only have one SPS frag in there to see if it will survive and color up before I purchase more SPS. My rocks are turning green, does that algae uptake ca and alk like purple coraline does? I'm stumped on what is using up all my ca and alk. ca and alk are dosed one hour apart from each other 12 times a day. I don't see any precipitate on any of the pumps. At this rate, I'm going to have to move to a calcium reactor soon once I start adding corals.

08/06 03:16:16 W.129 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :7.94
08/06 03:24:23 Save New System Environment.
08/06 07:35:18 W.131 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :7.98
08/06 11:46:27 W.135 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :7.98
08/06 15:57:48 W.131 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :7.98
08/06 20:16:19 W.134 %0 AK.34.00 KH :7.89
08/06 23:38:10 W.132 %0 AK.95.00 KH :7.79

JWClark
08/07/2017, 05:55 AM
Keep a close eye on the alk. I've found, when setting up w/ dry rock, that the alk seems to take a few months to stabilize. I've always had to dose alk at the beginning to keep stable. Once stable, the level will spike if you are not on top of it. Happened to me while testing weekly. Seems to be around month 2-4 that this happens. Then consumption will equal true demand. My theory is that the rock is absorbing some and some is being used by the microflora/fauna while they go through boom/bust cycles establishing the ecosystem.

Also, keep an eye on mag. This would also swing for me. Nice set up, despite the hiccups.

mike810
08/15/2017, 03:03 AM
I took a trip to Unique Corals on Saturday. It was a three hour round trip, traffic the entire way. It was totally worth it though, Tim gave me a tour of the facility and it was awesome! The Dastaco they have setup there is ridiculously huge. Sunday I went to work setting up the reactor which took some time as this is my first calcium reactor. After everything was setup, I had a heck of a time trying to get the co2 reaction chamber to purge the water out so the float switch could do it's thing. I was never able to get it to work and found out that the outlet on the controller that controls the co2 solenoid is faulty. It was not providing any power to the solenoid to let co2 in. This took me quite some time to figure out. This morning, I call Joe at Unique Corals and he is having a new controller sent out to me. So for now, it's filled and ready to go but stuck in limbo. Hopefully I'll get it up and running tomorrow evening if the controller gets here tomorrow. Here are some pics of the calcium reactor, it's pretty big. Luckily, I left enough space at the end of the tank for this very reason. I did get to play with the controller a bit and I like that I only have to adjust a dial to increase alk/ca dosage. No fiddling with bubble counters, PH or effluent rate. You do have to setup the controller upon first start up to keep the CO2 solenoid open for a minimum of 2 minutes and a maximum of 3 minutes so it can purge the co2 reaction chamber of water. There is also an option to vent the reactor X amount of times a day to get rid of any air that builds up inside the reaction chamber. This is also adjusted with a dial.

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Initially I planned to pick up a Avast Marine Davy Jones Skimmate locker but I didn't really have a good spot for it to make maintenance easy so I put this ghetto skimmate locker together using a cereal storage container. It does it's job but it stinks up the entire living room every time I drain it. I may just ditch it and run a line from my GHL doser to the cup and drain it outside to a drain. This will also cut down on maintenance which I'm all about. I'm a lazy reefer.
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russ49merc
08/15/2017, 10:50 AM
amazing build

mike810
08/16/2017, 03:19 AM
amazing build

:thumbsup:

mike810
08/16/2017, 03:20 AM
Got the new controller in this morning, set it up to see if it works and SNAP, the solenoid opened. It's pretty loud every time the solenoid opens, not so loud when it shuts off. After testing, I turned the unit off and went to work. Came home and fired it back up. I had to do the initial setup of fine tuning the regulator to pump in enough co2 upon start up and purge the co2 reaction chamber of water within 2-3 minutes. This took me some time to do and had to purge the co2 reaction chamber of co2 multiple times to get the regulator dialed in. The unit has been running for about 5-6 hours now. I have a 10lb tank and started at 100 PSI, I'm now down to about 91-92 PSI. I'm hoping this huge drop in pressure is due to me purging the co2 reaction chamber of co2 multiple times during initial setup, otherwise, this unit is a gas hog. I also completely shut off my GHL doser and set the KHG to test every single hour. Below are the test results after I shut off the doser.

08/15 18:57:14 W.143 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.15
08/15 20:06:58 W.142 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.14
08/15 21:23:59 W.142 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.02
08/15 22:02:48 Save New System Environment.
08/15 22:33:18 W.143 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :7.97
08/15 23:43:11 W.144 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :7.98
08/16 00:53:02 W.142 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :7.98

https://s25.postimg.org/vlvpqhhu7/IMG_3342.jpg

I tested the effluent of the reactor for the heck of it and it maxed out the hanna checker at 300ppm.

https://s25.postimg.org/64db6w03z/IMG_3344.jpg

mike810
08/17/2017, 07:59 PM
Setting the KHG to test every hour makes dialing in the carx really easy. Here is a log from yesterday and today.


08/16 00:53:02 W.142 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :7.98
08/16 01:52:53 W.142 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :7.98
08/16 03:11:06 W.143 %0 AK.38.00 KH :7.89
08/16 04:29:33 W.142 %0 AK. 8.00 KH :7.94
08/16 05:47:30 W.142 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.03
08/16 07:05:20 W.143 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.22
08/16 08:23:53 W.143 %1 AK. 0.00 KH :8.25
08/16 09:41:58 W.147 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.30
08/16 11:00:41 W.146 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.40
08/16 12:19:23 W.146 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.54
08/16 13:38:02 W.143 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.63
08/16 14:56:49 W.141 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.67
08/16 16:07:00 W.145 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.67
08/16 17:17:22 W.144 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.66
08/16 18:35:07 W.146 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.57
08/16 19:36:34 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/16 20:38:12 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/16 20:56:56 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/16 21:02:46 W.176 KS=0D L%0 S%0 SW>_ERR KH :0.00
08/16 21:19:34 RESET !
08/16 21:40:33 W.144 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.44
08/16 22:50:34 W.142 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.31
08/17 00:07:58 W.143 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.16
08/17 01:25:12 W.140 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.02
08/17 02:33:18 W.142 %0 AK.38.00 KH :7.89
08/17 03:51:36 W.143 %0 AK.42.00 KH :7.88
08/17 05:01:45 W.144 %1 AK.12.00 KH :7.93
08/17 06:19:07 W.142 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :7.99
08/17 07:36:44 W.143 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.03
08/17 08:46:47 W.141 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.07
08/17 09:56:47 W.144 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.12
08/17 11:06:49 W.142 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.11
08/17 12:16:53 W.141 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.12
08/17 13:26:44 W.142 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.12
08/17 14:36:44 W.144 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.11
08/17 15:46:46 W.142 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.11
08/17 16:56:45 W.137 %0 AK. 0.00 KH :8.11

McPuff
08/17/2017, 08:13 PM
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I like the background in this picture! :0)

mike810
08/18/2017, 03:08 AM
I like the background in this picture! :0)

Yes, they sent me that to show case their two new models. The Aventador S and Huracan Performante. They're trying to get me to upgrade, it's very tempting! :fun4:

mike810
08/18/2017, 03:28 AM
I'm having to drain my skimmer cup daily. Last night I drained the skimmer cup and tonight, this is how much skimmate has collected. This is probably the best skimmer I have ever owned.

https://s25.postimg.org/x59zlcbdb/IMG_3354.jpg

The Dastaco carx has alarm features to notify of a co2 leak, water leak or empty co2 bottle. It sounds an audible alarm but also has the option to tie into a third party controller. The port is a regular RCA jack so I bought a 15 ft. cable to run it to the Apex's break out box. I'll have it send me a text and email when an alarm on the Dastaco occurs.

https://s25.postimg.org/mjq49c51r/IMG_3355.jpg

The Dastaco reactors are 34" tall. I originally had the effluent line running to the return section in the sump. This caused siphoning issues and noticed my PH really took a hit since bringing the carx online and stopping 2 part dosing. When I was dosing 2 part, my PH was running around 8.3-8.4 throughout the day. Ceasing 2 part dosing and running the carx, my PH dropped to 7.8-8. So I ran some clear vinyl tubing from the sump up to the return pipe and zip tied the tubing to the pipe. I took the effluent line from the sump and ran it up to the top of the vinyl tubing and stuck the line in there. This helped stopped the siphoning and also helps gas off excess co2. My PH is now steady at around 8.2ish.

https://s25.postimg.org/hmcjo832n/IMG_3356.jpg
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solitude127
08/18/2017, 05:22 PM
https://s25.postimg.org/x59zlcbdb/IMG_3354.jpg

That's some nasty stuff considering you don't have whole lot of fish in there.

mike810
08/22/2017, 02:53 AM
A couple weeks ago, my wife asked if I thought the tank was ready for corals. I said possibly, not sure as nitrates were around 25-50 and po4 was .08. She went ahead and bought some corals without my knowledge and this is what showed up.

Slightyly browned out strawberry short cake. It's improved a little in the roughly two weeks it's been in the tank but not by much.

https://s25.postimg.org/3ohyztfnz/IMG_3299.jpg
https://s25.postimg.org/8945eqzdb/IMG_3363.jpg

This one came in completely brown. It now has a glowing teal green color. This one has shown the most improvement thus far.

https://s25.postimg.org/c47jhbij3/IMG_3312.jpg
https://s25.postimg.org/97fx3anbj/IMG_3362.jpg

This one also came in completely brown. It now has a slight purple tint and the branches are turning a creamy white color. Looking forward to seeing what this one does.

https://s25.postimg.org/in0du8uq7/IMG_3313.jpg
https://s25.postimg.org/6mextinbj/IMG_3368.jpg

Some of the wife's gold torches and a green hammer

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McPuff
08/23/2017, 07:01 AM
I'm curious to know how aggressive your ruby head wrasse is. Mine is the "boss" of the wrasses in my tank. :0) And it's quite large.

mike810
08/23/2017, 10:21 AM
I'm curious to know how aggressive your ruby head wrasse is. Mine is the "boss" of the wrasses in my tank. :0) And it's quite large.

Red head salon is currently the boss amongst the wrasse. The ruby and orange back tried to team up and punk the red head but damn that red head fought back against the two and now calls the shot.

McPuff
08/24/2017, 06:46 AM
Red head salon is currently the boss amongst the wrasse. The ruby and orange back tried to team up and punk the red head but damn that red head fought back against the two and now calls the shot.

That's funny. My solon fairy wrasse was really resilient when I first added it. The ruby head pummeled it quite a bit. He came through just fine! But it has never chased another fish. I feel they are underappreciated and have such tremendous coloration as they get bigger/older.

mike810
08/25/2017, 02:59 PM
So this came in the mail today.


https://s25.postimg.org/5f1x41v2n/IMG_3424.jpg

Very good packaging.
https://s25.postimg.org/i565h530v/IMG_3425.jpg


This reactor is big! But it looks so awesome.
https://s25.postimg.org/mtm5cbs7j/IMG_3426.jpg
https://s25.postimg.org/8boy4c0wf/IMG_3427.jpg


I'll be setting it up tonight.

ReefKeeper64
08/25/2017, 09:36 PM
So this came in the mail today.


https://s25.postimg.org/5f1x41v2n/IMG_3424.jpg

Very good packaging.
https://s25.postimg.org/i565h530v/IMG_3425.jpg


This reactor is big! But it looks so awesome.
https://s25.postimg.org/mtm5cbs7j/IMG_3426.jpg
https://s25.postimg.org/8boy4c0wf/IMG_3427.jpg


I'll be setting it up tonight.

That's an awesome addition Mike! Those cooling vents have an intriguing design to them and the whole setup looks hefty. I've read nothing but good things about them here on RC. The entire Pax design looks heavy duty and from what I've read, extremely effective. How tall is it?

mike810
08/29/2017, 03:17 AM
That's an awesome addition Mike! Those cooling vents have an intriguing design to them and the whole setup looks hefty. I've read nothing but good things about them here on RC. The entire Pax design looks heavy duty and from what I've read, extremely effective. How tall is it?

Thanks Chris, it's absolutely heavy duty. It has a good weight to it and it's very beefy. The heatsink seems to work really well as it does get warm when the leds are not but never too hot to touch. The leds are very bright, looking forward to see what it does in a week or two.

mike810
08/29/2017, 03:18 AM
Reactor installed, I got a bit of chaeto to start off with. Hopefully it will fill the reactor in no time. This reactor has some weight to it and it just has quality written all over it. The heat sinks works really well as it gets pretty warm when on for awhile. It's super bright also, I'm thinking I won't even need any moon lights on my tank at night anymore. It pretty much lights up the entire corner of my living room. I'll open up the reactor in a week and see how much the chaeto has grown.


https://s25.postimg.org/m97kt0fwv/IMG_3438.jpg
https://s25.postimg.org/v1ojgp11r/IMG_3439.jpg
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I think I finally got this Dastaco running perfectly now. It's been a trend with this tank that pretty much any equipment I buy, I have to trouble shoot it as there is always something wrong with it. Majority of the stuff has not been plug and play for me, not fitting of things in such a price range. The co2 reaction chamber would completely drain causing the ehiem pump to run dry. It would eventually restart on it's own but it shouldn't run dry in the first place. Even though it was delivering alk/ca to the tank, it was also wasting a lot of co2.

https://s25.postimg.org/v5icwy6j3/IMG_3452.jpg

Well, this KHG got packed up and shipped back to CoralVue yesterday. Loved it when it was working properly but in the less than a month it's been running, it's been throwing errors left and right. I would be able to clear the errors and get it running again but it would throw an error again a week later. This time, there was an error I couldn't clear and one of the doser motors stopped turning. Hopefully it will be an easy fix and I'll get it back soon.

https://s25.postimg.org/kld0s3rf3/IMG_3450.jpg

Some pics my wife took of the newly acquired corals.


https://s25.postimg.org/gnl5oyf7z/IMG_3453.jpg
https://s25.postimg.org/5k64x3jbj/IMG_3454.jpg
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mike810
08/29/2017, 03:19 AM
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mike810
09/05/2017, 03:17 AM
The Dastaco has been keeping parameters rock steady since it's been set up, alk: 8, ca: 450 and mg hasn't budged (mg isn't dosed) from 1500 since the tank started up again.

Last couple weeks the rocks and sand have changed colors from green to brown. My gut is telling me it might be dinos but my mind is hoping it is not. It's slimey but not super stringy. It can grow maybe 1/8-1/4" off the rocks. It's most likely dinos so I've been skimming wet, dosing some zeobac and changing socks daily. I'm hoping the chaeto will out compete it once it grows in more.

The arid reactor has been online for about a week now. I started with a golf ball size of chaeto and this is how much it's grown in a week. Is this normal growth for a week or is it slower or faster than usual? I've never ran a fuge so I'm not really sure of it's growth rates.

https://s25.postimg.org/oeu2i5jf3/IMG_3473.jpg

asonitez
09/05/2017, 01:26 PM
I love the build. Do you qurantine your fishes? If not how do you deal with disease?

mike810
09/05/2017, 02:45 PM
I love the build. Do you qurantine your fishes? If not how do you deal with disease?

I do not. Once I am done adding fish, I treat the tank 20-24 days with polyp lab medic at triple the dose. After that I will treat the tank with prazipro.

asonitez
09/05/2017, 02:46 PM
This is cool. I'm doing something similar. I hypoed the entire display for a month or 2 but I might try medic as well


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mike810
09/05/2017, 02:54 PM
Medic hasn't failed me yet. I use triple the dose though and treat longer than 20 days if necessary.

asonitez
09/05/2017, 03:19 PM
Lol this is why I like build threads. You lean something new every time. I never heard of this product. My move to hypo salinity resulted in some big algae blooms that my ozone generator cleared up almost overnight.

Now I'm interested in water quality and treating these guys. I like hyposalinity because it's safe. I have 2 refractometer one fine 1.015 and up and one that has a wider range both calibrated with 1.026 saltwater calibration solution. But I do want an added "thing" to really get them healthy prazi was a given but I think I might try this medic as well


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mike810
09/08/2017, 02:49 AM
Took some photos tonight with the DSLR. My camera skills are very lacking. I need to watch some videos and learn how to set the camera.


Just wanted to mention this clog free glue cap I found on Amazon several years ago. I helps keep the glue nozzle clean and clear and ready to go whenever you need to use it. I have been using this bottle of glue for a couple years now and I have never had to poke or cut the nozzle to clear a clog. It has a needle inside the cap and replaces your original superglue cap.

https://s25.postimg.org/f8lxcn3bj/IMG_3496.jpg

Whatever this bacteria/algae was on my sand and rocks seems to be clearing up.

https://s25.postimg.org/umfm034b3/Z_4.jpg


Here is a picture of one of the first SPS in my tank. It was completely browned out. It has since colored up nicely.

8-8-17
https://s25.postimg.org/c47jhbij3/IMG_3312.jpg

8-19-17
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9-8-17
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mike810
09/08/2017, 02:50 AM
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mike810
09/08/2017, 02:51 AM
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mike810
09/08/2017, 02:55 AM
Some pictures my wife took with her phone and a orange gel filter. Gotta say, it looks like it came out better than the pictures I took with a DSLR. :debi:

https://s25.postimg.org/qrh9umrgv/IMG_3511.jpg
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solitude127
09/08/2017, 04:22 PM
Nice fish selection you have there.

ycnibrc
09/08/2017, 04:24 PM
Do u have the lid yet? The jaw fish is prone to jump

mike810
09/08/2017, 11:24 PM
Nice fish selection you have there.

Thanks, I wasn't able to snap a shot of all them yet. Hopefully I'll have a couple more gems coming in next week if it all works out.


Do u have the lid yet? The jaw fish is prone to jump

I made a screen and it's been on the tank since the first fish went in.

mdrobc1213
09/09/2017, 10:33 PM
So I have some good news and bad news. I'll start with the good. I got up this morning (more like noon) and filled up the tank full along with the sump. Ran the tank and checked for leaks, a couple minor leaks from the unions which I took care of right away. I fired up the skimmer and it started producing a good foam right away even with the pump on the lowest setting and pipe wide open. The water is a nasty yellow/green and stinks. The pukani rock is dirrrrrtay. I checked the ammonia and got a good solid green reading via API test. I threw in 5 bottles of bio-spira and I was on cloud 9. Today was the day the cycle begins!

https://s25.postimg.org/46oqoom4v/IMG_3074.jpg
https://s25.postimg.org/bb6jxpte7/IMG_3075.jpg

Just did my 1st hard plumming build and also had a few leaks at the unions also...how do you/did you fix yours? Am at a loss other than redoing the plumbing lines which I don't necessarily want to do. Leak was at my drains...1" union into gateway valve then another 1" union to a 90 elbow to the sump drain #1. Help/thoughts on this?

ycnibrc
09/09/2017, 10:38 PM
Check the rubber seal at the union sometime it fell off. Are u tight the union enough? Brand-new union don't leak. If it leak where u glue the PVC then try silicon or more glue around the edge

mdrobc1213
09/09/2017, 11:25 PM
Check the rubber seal at the union sometime it fell off. Are u tight the union enough? Brand-new union don't leak. If it leak where u glue the PVC then try silicon or more glue around the edge

Thanks will check but they were brand new unions from BRS so don't think that was the problem. They are as tight as I can get them. Will look for rubber seal tho. Was able to stop higher up leak at PVC glue part (was very small) using silicone seal tape from Home Depot! But union distal to my Gateway valve still leaks and I find a few drops daily on the upper part of the union. :(

Worst case is purchasing another valve and slip-slip couple...cutting the pipe above the valve assemble and union and replacing with brand new union-valve-union-elbow-union assembly. I do have the spare parts to do so but hate to do it especially with the tank running now...would have to shut down the left side return basically until accomplished and let new piping dry...24hrs or so right? Could run right side return no problem as no leaks there tho I guess. Thanks for the advice.

mike810
09/10/2017, 12:48 AM
Just did my 1st hard plumming build and also had a few leaks at the unions also...how do you/did you fix yours? Am at a loss other than redoing the plumbing lines which I don't necessarily want to do. Leak was at my drains...1" union into gateway valve then another 1" union to a 90 elbow to the sump drain #1. Help/thoughts on this?

Make sure your unions lines up perfectly and are hand tighten. Mine were leaking because some of the plumbing was a little short so I simply cut above the union a few inches, put in a coupler so I can adjust the pipe to be a little longer. This way all the unions are touching each other before I begin to tighten them by hand. This ensures a good seal.

Another thing you want to check after making sure the seals are there to begin with like Anthony suggested, is to remove the union. Then check to see if the seal got pushed down too far due to over tightening that they are no longer water tight. Carefully remove the seal, apply some reef safe silicone grease if you have any, if not, just try reseating the seal and hand tighten but not excessively.

If you have a leak around an elbow, take some pvc glue and try pushing it into where the leak is. Shut off the system, purge the pipe of water and dry the area where the leak is occurring. Smother the area with pvc glue and use your finger to try getting it in there if you have to. Good luck, I hope you fix the leak.

mike810
09/11/2017, 03:30 AM
Took some top down shots tonight along with a front shot. Looking forward to seeing these babies grow into colonies. Hopefully I'll get a few nice fishes in on Wednesday.


https://s25.postimg.org/lskkom8wf/Z_35.jpg


This is a top down of the very first sps I put into the system. It was completely browned out, I love watching browned out sps color up.

https://s25.postimg.org/v9ez8zi4v/Z_33.jpg

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mike810
09/11/2017, 03:30 AM
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mike810
09/12/2017, 03:50 AM
Can you guys tell me what algae/bacteria this is?

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View from the side
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ElTurco
09/12/2017, 06:32 AM
Hi there;
Good luck with your good set up. Checking your latest pics I would suggest a few things to be considered :
1- Your tank is in curve for established water please do not rush for coral additions.
2- Increase the number of cleaning crew especialy the snails.
3- Seems like you have cyano start up check your circulation in tank and water parameters probably phosfate is too high.
4- Put some more tangs for algea consumption ie: convict tang etc.
5- You have made very good investment on hardwares but patience is a must :)

Best wishes

mike810
09/12/2017, 11:27 PM
Hi there;
Good luck with your good set up. Checking your latest pics I would suggest a few things to be considered :
1- Your tank is in curve for established water please do not rush for coral additions.
2- Increase the number of cleaning crew especialy the snails.
3- Seems like you have cyano start up check your circulation in tank and water parameters probably phosfate is too high.
4- Put some more tangs for algea consumption ie: convict tang etc.
5- You have made very good investment on hardwares but patience is a must :)

Best wishes

Hello and thank you. Let me answer some of your suggestions below.

1. I will not be adding anymore corals until the ones already in the tank color up more and grow more.
2. I have 4 fighting conch, 35 nerite, 35 nassarius, 35 cerith. I could probably add more but I didn't want to add too much right away and have a bunch die from starvation.
3. I think it might be DINOS and not cyano. Either way, nitrates are low at 2.5 and phosphates read 0 with hanna ULR checker. Not really sure if I believe these numbers. I do have some algae but not much. There is plenty of flow in the tank, maybe a little too much lol as all the LPS needs to stay on the side of the tank. There is four MP40QD and two Tunze 6255 in the tank for flow. Vortechs are running at 60% and Tunzes at 70%.
4. I already have 7 tangs in the tank, some I did not take a picture of because they move too much. The only other tang I would consider adding to the tank would be a GEM tang.
5. Thank you very much. On this tank, believe it or not, I have exercised a lot of patience, lol. I rarely mess, adjust or fiddle with the tank like I have with my previous three tanks over the years. This time around, I only change filter socks every couple of days, empty skimmer cup and feed the tank. Oh and clean the glass every few days as algae builds up. I know my tank is still very young and I'm not rushing to make any drastic changes to try and get rid of the algae. I will let it run its course and hopefully, it will go away on it's own.

ElTurco
09/13/2017, 12:51 AM
Hi Mike;

Great to know that all in order. I will follow up developments and especially interested in your experiences with KHG in future. Good luck again.

brgds

mike810
09/13/2017, 01:13 AM
Hi Mike;

Great to know that all in order. I will follow up developments and especially interested in your experiences with KHG in future. Good luck again.

brgds

Hello,

I initially had problems with the KHG. When it worked, it was wonderful to have and at a glance, knowing where your alk is at was great. I did have to send it back last week to get fixed but I just got it back this morning. Since getting it back, I've run around 10 test or so and it's been working good, no errors. Hopefully, no more errors for a good while. Seems like I was the only one with the issues I experienced with the KHG.

Heuristic
09/16/2017, 10:17 AM
That algae is dino. Your tank water is too clean and the bad algae is out consuming the good algae.

premilove
09/16/2017, 11:00 AM
Just read the entire build thread. Love the equipment you're using. It definitely looks like Dino. I battled Dino and byropsis a few years ago(2013/2014, currently out of hobby) and used Ultra Algae X. Killed Dino in 3 days. I'm not sure if it's still around but if you can find some, I bet it will fix your issues.

Eauturquoise
09/16/2017, 11:04 AM
Tagging along :)

mike810
09/16/2017, 06:32 PM
I'm going to give hydrogen peroxide dosing a go first. There is a product called dino-x which replaced ultra algae x that supposedly works but I would have to dose 75ml every 2 days for 375 gallons. A 500 ml bottle cost $50 bucks and you're suppose to treat until gone which could take up to a month! Some reports of SPS dying from the treatment also.

ycnibrc
09/16/2017, 07:26 PM
I wouldn't use any chemicals to treat Dino. Increase flow at the sand bed reduce zeobak reduce light period get some other algae to your arid reactor beside cheato. Add a lot of astrea snail and clean up crew and let it ride. I have been through this like a few months ago N now my tank is spotless no algae. The red leg hermit even eat the Damm dino

mike810
09/16/2017, 07:54 PM
I wouldn't use any chemicals to treat Dino. Increase flow at the sand bed reduce zeobak reduce light period get some other algae to your arid reactor beside cheato. Add a lot of astrea snail and clean up crew and let it ride. I have been through this like a few months ago N now my tank is spotless no algae. The red leg hermit even eat the Damm dino

This stuff is spreading like crazy and suffocating my SPS. I have four MP40QDs running at 70% and two Tunze 6255 running at 90%. There is plenty of flow in the tank for sure. I have stopped zeobak altogether as it was not doing anything to help except create excess slime. The chaeto's growth has stalled due to the dinos smothering it. I don't think adding more snails will help as the ones in the tank seem to be dying or getting weak feeding on the dinos. I have to blow the dinos off the SPS every hour to stop them from dying only for the dinos to come back right away, it's crazy. Pretty sure I'll lose a lot of frags waiting for months for the dinos to clear.

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ycnibrc
09/16/2017, 08:21 PM
Do u have a frag tank that u can move all corals to? U can try to go completely dark for 3 to 4 days see if that help.

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ycnibrc
09/16/2017, 08:26 PM
Another way that I use is to get a hose and suck the water to the filter sock that way u can suck the dino out to the filter sock for hours and don't have to do water change. Be consistent do that everyday and change Filter sock don't let them multiply more. It's a hard battle but we are human vs algae we suppose to win.

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mike810
09/16/2017, 08:39 PM
Yeah, I've been doing that also. They come back within a day or two to the same amount that was sucked out previously. It's overwhelming to say the least.

ycnibrc
09/16/2017, 09:12 PM
Lol u have Godzilla Dino

mike810
09/17/2017, 01:10 AM
YES! It's getting crazy. Looks like I might be losing my tono wrasse. I spotted it swimming funny just right now and doing barrel rolls. I just netted it and put it in an acclimation box. I hope it pulls through but I doubt it. In past experience, once a wrasse starts swimming funny, it's a goner. It's either the dinos or possibly swim bladder affecting the wrasse.

rovster
09/28/2017, 04:41 PM
Nice set up! In my experience you need to ignore this stuff. Accept the fact that it is going to be around for a while and learn to ignore it. Your tank is in its infancy. I started a tank with mostly dry rock that was thoroughly cured and this ugly duckling phase lasted 6-8 months. The more you fight it the worse it gets. I don't think you can curb it you just need to let it go. That is assuming most of your parameters are in check. If your fish are healthy and your corals seem fine, look the other way. This is my opinion of course.....

As far as the fish goes, unless proven otherwise the fish probably had the problem from before. To early to hit the panic button for pretty much anything that happens in your tank.

mike810
09/28/2017, 10:15 PM
Nice set up! In my experience you need to ignore this stuff. Accept the fact that it is going to be around for a while and learn to ignore it. Your tank is in its infancy. I started a tank with mostly dry rock that was thoroughly cured and this ugly duckling phase lasted 6-8 months. The more you fight it the worse it gets. I don't think you can curb it you just need to let it go. That is assuming most of your parameters are in check. If your fish are healthy and your corals seem fine, look the other way. This is my opinion of course.....

As far as the fish goes, unless proven otherwise the fish probably had the problem from before. To early to hit the panic button for pretty much anything that happens in your tank.

The fish is a gone, it didn't make it sadly. I would love to ignore it and let it run it's course but it is smothering my sps frags, can't have that!! Either way, I've been dosing DINO-X and it seems to have killed 95% of it already. Some frags did brown out but i'm pretty sure it was from the dinos smothering it all day every single day.

Since the majority of the dinos died, cyano is starting to rear it's ugly head. I much rather have cyano then dinos any day.

mdrobc1213
10/01/2017, 02:49 AM
Make sure your unions lines up perfectly and are hand tighten. Mine were leaking because some of the plumbing was a little short so I simply cut above the union a few inches, put in a coupler so I can adjust the pipe to be a little longer. This way all the unions are touching each other before I begin to tighten them by hand. This ensures a good seal.

Another thing you want to check after making sure the seals are there to begin with like Anthony suggested, is to remove the union. Then check to see if the seal got pushed down too far due to over tightening that they are no longer water tight. Carefully remove the seal, apply some reef safe silicone grease if you have any, if not, just try reseating the seal and hand tighten but not excessively.

If you have a leak around an elbow, take some pvc glue and try pushing it into where the leak is. Shut off the system, purge the pipe of water and dry the area where the leak is occurring. Smother the area with pvc glue and use your finger to try getting it in there if you have to. Good luck, I hope you fix the leak.

Thanks..seems to have solved itself on its own. Bought another valve and PVC unions and elbows to make a whole new section of pipe down to my sump but looks like it stopped on its own. So that's great I guess but will keep them and make sure that the leak is fully gone. So far so good.

ReefKeeper64
11/18/2017, 10:44 AM
Hey Mike, How is your pax bellum arid reactor working out? Is maintenance easy or a pia? Does PO4 creep up for while after you harvest the cheato? Does it really pull down PO4 effectively? Looking for pros and cons. Thanks

mike810
11/19/2017, 06:21 PM
Hey Mike, How is your pax bellum arid reactor working out? Is maintenance easy or a pia? Does PO4 creep up for while after you harvest the cheato? Does it really pull down PO4 effectively? Looking for pros and cons. Thanks

Here's my experience with the arid reactor. I started off with a golf ball size amount of chaeto. It grew a little bit to maybe a soft ball size in month. Since then, it hasn't really grown anymore. I tried several different photo periods from 8, 12 and 18 hours a day. Still, no more growth. I get some hair algae growing in the reactor also and it grows on the chaeto also.

Maintenance is not bad since I have it in a open location. I did move the dastaco and arid around a bit to make getting to the arid more convenient. I don't clean it often as I don't see much in the way of growth but when I do, I simply remove the led bar, remove the top and into a 5 gallon bucket. I rinse everything off when a hose and a final rinse with RODI. Rinse the chaeto and replace.

My tank has very low nutrients so I'm not sure if it's due to the arid or other means. I tested no3 and po4 today and results were no3=1 and po4=.02, tested with salifert and hanna ulr. I'm going to dose the provided nitrate solution to try and bring up nitrates a bit. I'm not really sure I even need the arid reactor on this system to be honest.

It's crazy because I have close to 50 or just a little over 50 fish, about 8 tangs, some fairly large. I feed the fish 2-3 times a day with 6-8 cubes of frozen each feeding. If I feed from a flat pack, I break off big chunks of food, I think this tank gets fed a lot but it still has low nutrients.

biecacka
11/20/2017, 08:26 PM
Mike, great looking tank! Some awesome looking frags too man. Did you beat the dins/cyano as well?
How do you like the DastAco reactor? it is on my wish list for sure! :D

corey

ReefKeeper64
11/20/2017, 09:29 PM
Here's my experience with the arid reactor. I started off with a golf ball size amount of chaeto. It grew a little bit to maybe a soft ball size in month. Since then, it hasn't really grown anymore. I tried several different photo periods from 8, 12 and 18 hours a day. Still, no more growth. I get some hair algae growing in the reactor also and it grows on the chaeto also.

Maintenance is not bad since I have it in a open location. I did move the dastaco and arid around a bit to make getting to the arid more convenient. I don't clean it often as I don't see much in the way of growth but when I do, I simply remove the led bar, remove the top and into a 5 gallon bucket. I rinse everything off when a hose and a final rinse with RODI. Rinse the chaeto and replace.

My tank has very low nutrients so I'm not sure if it's due to the arid or other means. I tested no3 and po4 today and results were no3=1 and po4=.02, tested with salifert and hanna ulr. I'm going to dose the provided nitrate solution to try and bring up nitrates a bit. I'm not really sure I even need the arid reactor on this system to be honest.

It's crazy because I have close to 50 or just a little over 50 fish, about 8 tangs, some fairly large. I feed the fish 2-3 times a day with 6-8 cubes of frozen each feeding. If I feed from a flat pack, I break off big chunks of food, I think this tank gets fed a lot but it still has low nutrients.

Thatís a surprising bit of feedback. My guess is that your arid reactor is helping to keep your water Params in check. Plus when your tank is older and the sand isnít so clean anymore, your reactor will save the day without much effort. Thanks for sharing the details.

solitude127
11/28/2017, 05:47 PM
any updates on the tank?