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plyle02
05/14/2017, 06:29 AM
Hello fellow gurus :)
Well the home improvements are nearly complete, and I sold off the old system in order to make these projects happen. My fiance and I painted the entire interior of the home, and my dad and I installed new laminate wood flooring. I knew the 120 had to come down in order to make this project happen. That said, we had a perfect corner to put a smaller setup, and I scored a prototype Waterbox 50 gallon AIO cube from work. So, I am back with a new setup that will be of the mixed variety. Alright then, on to the system setup and equipment.

Tank: 52.4 Waterbox AIO rimless all panels low iron glass(dual overflows)
Skimmer: Aquamaxx WS-1 skimmer
Lighting: Kessil A360W and Kessil A160W
Top Off: Pacific Sun Sentry
Doser: E-shops twin doser and Bubble Magus single doser
Controller: DA RK Lite
Powerhead: Soon to come
Pump: Eco Pump (350gph)

In the tank:
Rock: Mixture of Live Fiji Air Rock, and Real Reef Rock(total around 40lbs.)
Fish: Pair of True Percs, pair of Black ORA cardinals, long nosed hawkfish
Inverts: 20 sps frags, scoly, ricordea garden, acans, a few zoas, 2 fighting conchs, misc snails and hermits

System:
AF Probiotic Reef Salt
AF Vitality, Amino Mix, Build, and Energy
AF Life Bio Fil(passive in media tray box)
AF Carbon(passive in media tray box)
AF NP Pro
AF Pro Bio S

kevlow
05/14/2017, 07:34 AM
Great to see you up and running. I am sure this will be a beautiful system.
What was the deciding factor for you to chose the Kessils?
Are you starting completely from scratch or did save any of your old acros?
Will be subscribed and following along.

Pife
05/14/2017, 07:37 AM
Subscribing! Glad you're back!

reefmutt
05/14/2017, 07:43 AM
Hey Perry!
Glad to see you back! :)
Yes, I'm also intrigued by your lighting choice.
Also wondering if you've kept frags from the old system
Looking forward to watching this system grow out.
Any thoughts on using AF Life Source?

plyle02
05/14/2017, 08:12 AM
Great to see you up and running. I am sure this will be a beautiful system.
What was the deciding factor for you to chose the Kessils?
Are you starting completely from scratch or did save any of your old acros?
Will be subscribed and following along.

Hi Kevin,
I went with kessils cause we had some returned laying around that we could not really do anything with. So, the a160w is running only blue at 50% and the a360w is running around 60% with around a 20k look. Trying to go kind of easy on the lighting and let things settle in. The corals all came from LFS that took my colonies. I have been up and running for a few weeks, and some livestock transferred over from a 25 gallon lagoon, fish and rics, and polyps. Yesterday I called the LFS and told him a price, and to pick out around 10 sps frags. To my amazement, Steve hooked me up with 20 beautiful frags. Some were high $ named frags. Thanks for checking things out, hope all is well!

Subscribing! Glad you're back!

Thanks Brandon, Yeah you cannot keep a sps junkie tankless for too long, lol :)

Hey Perry!
Glad to see you back! :)
Yes, I'm also intrigued by your lighting choice.
Also wondering if you've kept frags from the old system
Looking forward to watching this system grow out.
Any thoughts on using AF Life Source?

Hey Matt,
Covered the lighting deal in Kevin's post, and starting fresh with new frags. All of them are sweet, and named, but I did not write them all down, and nor do I really care, lol.. As far as Life Bio Fil, I am using 1 liter in a mesh bag, in the media tray in the overflow of the tank. I am also running carbon, and have a spot for phosphate remover if needed. The Life Bio Fil is pumice, so a biological media to help with nutrients, but comes pre-loaded with Bacteria. The skimmer seems to be up to the challenge and rocks, but, I will be running ULNS, so it will be important to have a large area for bacteria to home. So glad to be back with a new setup, our home apperance has been greatly improved, and the tank brings it all together. I am stoked to have a small easy to run little system. I think I will be able to pull off something pretty sweet, time will tell :) Thanks Matt!!!

reefmutt
05/14/2017, 09:44 AM
Thanks Perry, looking forward to this tank.
I was asking about AF Life Source, the mud..
Wondering about it as a contained, in sump sand bed as opposed to broadcast dosing it which sounds messy to me..

cFloor
05/14/2017, 12:53 PM
Nice Perry! Looking forward to following along

nemodan
05/14/2017, 01:20 PM
Perry.... knowing your skills this will be a beautiful tank in short time.

Cheers
Daniel !!

Pictures please !!

plyle02
05/15/2017, 01:51 PM
Thanks Perry, looking forward to this tank.
I was asking about AF Life Source, the mud..
Wondering about it as a contained, in sump sand bed as opposed to broadcast dosing it which sounds messy to me..

Hey Matt,
From my understanding, this is dosed into a high flow area, apparently the water will temporarily get cloudy, but return to normal. I will likely take some home to try, I can then have a better understanding. I will update you as I begin use.
Cheers!

Nice Perry! Looking forward to following along

Thank You Connor,
I am really trying to keep this tank as simple and stylish as possible. I feel with the 2 kessils, I will be able to create sufficient light for sps. I love the simple look of this tank, and so does my fiance, so after all the hard work on home improvements, I must keep things tidy, or else....LOL :)

Perry.... knowing your skills this will be a beautiful tank in short time.

Cheers
Daniel !!

Pictures please !!

Hi Daniel,
Thank you for the vote of confidence. We shall see... I will put up some pics real soon, but nothing really impressive enough to share yet :)
Thanks Daniel!

biggles
05/16/2017, 10:59 PM
Really pleased to see you getting a reef running again Perry, looking forward to seeing it all come together buddy :thumbsup:

plyle02
05/30/2017, 09:12 PM
Really pleased to see you getting a reef running again Perry, looking forward to seeing it all come together buddy :thumbsup:

Thank You Andrew!

The tank is running great, I am doing nothing but Probiotic Reef Salt changes weekly, and trying to dial in the exact parameters. So far so good, I have lost a few testers, but that is on me and my lack of knowledge for LED's. They provide more light than I would normally see with me eyes, so I am still trying to get it....LOL... Soon I will feel confident to show something other than boring... :) Nothing but frag sticks and my flubber ;)

plyle02
06/01/2017, 11:41 AM
Intro Video

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reefmutt
06/01/2017, 01:24 PM
Nice intro. Looking good Perry!
Will be neet to see the acros growing out from the pyramid.

markalot
06/02/2017, 08:20 AM
Nice to see this thread, looking forward to seeing the progress!

Zoahoarder
06/03/2017, 09:15 PM
Awesome looking tank now. Those sps frags once grown are going to look sweet. Can't wait to see it.

plyle02
06/04/2017, 02:56 PM
Nice intro. Looking good Perry!
Will be neet to see the acros growing out from the pyramid.

Thank You Matt!!! We shall see, I have an update though, and it will be a great move for me.

Nice to see this thread, looking forward to seeing the progress!

Thanks Mark,
Smaller for now, I love the simplicity, and feel as though I can will be more than satisfied with the smaller setup.

Awesome looking tank now. Those sps frags once grown are going to look sweet. Can't wait to see it.

Thanks Bro!

plyle02
06/04/2017, 02:59 PM
Update:

Lighting will change in a week or so.
I purchased a brand new Hamiliton Cayman Sun pendant, and will be using a 20K Radium 250watt bulb. I will still use the Kesslil A160WE to supplement with blue up and down ramping. I plan to run the halide for 7 hours a day only.
Thanks for checking things out, I will update as soon as the new light comes in :)

reefmutt
06/04/2017, 03:02 PM
Update:

Lighting will change in a week or so.
I purchased a brand new Hamiliton Cayman Sun pendant, and will be using a 20K Radium 250watt bulb. I will still use the Kesslil A160WE to supplement with blue up and down ramping. I plan to run the halide for 7 hours a day only.
Thanks for checking things out, I will update as soon as the new light comes in :)

My name is Matthew Graham and I approve of this message. :)

Zoahoarder
06/04/2017, 03:29 PM
Update:

Lighting will change in a week or so.
I purchased a brand new Hamiliton Cayman Sun pendant, and will be using a 20K Radium 250watt bulb. I will still use the Kesslil A160WE to supplement with blue up and down ramping. I plan to run the halide for 7 hours a day only.
Thanks for checking things out, I will update as soon as the new light comes in :)

Awesome. Can't wait to see the tank with the halide on top.

kevlow
06/05/2017, 03:46 AM
Great stuff!

Will having the the MH change the nature of the reef? Will it still be a mixed reef or will it now be sps dominate?

Best fortune with all that you do.

Kevin

drawman
06/05/2017, 07:58 AM
Nice work Perry! I'm a little sad to see the larger system go but it will be fun to follow the new tank!

plyle02
06/06/2017, 06:31 AM
My name is Matthew Graham and I approve of this message. :)

LOL,
I am glad you approve Mr. Graham :) You really cannot go wrong with a single 250watt radium over this footprint, should light this tank to perfection!

Awesome. Can't wait to see the tank with the halide on top.

Hopefully next week man, I am stoked and this should work perfectly :)

Great stuff!

Will having the the MH change the nature of the reef? Will it still be a mixed reef or will it now be sps dominate?

Best fortune with all that you do.

Kevin

Thank You Kevin! I have grown way too fond over ricordeas, my scoly, acans, etc... So I will keep them all in one tank and try to balance health for all corals, this will be tricky, but I think for me the halide will be easier. I am certain I could get it done with LED, but I KNOW 100% that I can achieve coloration with halides. I just do not have the confidence with LED, already burned a few acro frags and bleached a couple more. With t5 and halide, this would not have happened. The human eye cannot capture certain sensitivity in LED that you can with more linear lighting, this causes amateurs like me to over light with LED, thus scorching them. Anyway, I will still use the a160we for max blue at 50% with angle for actinic up and down viewing, I think it will pair nicely with 7 hours halide daily. Thanks again for checking in!

Nice work Perry! I'm a little sad to see the larger system go but it will be fun to follow the new tank!

Hey Tim, thanks for the kind words man! Yeah, I have basically divided my reef by half, and starting over with frags, lol... This setup is basically easy, and automated, so I will hopefully get some growth going and fill this bad boy up! This tank will be loaded with corals, and will be placed with max health in mind, using shading for light sensitive corals, and filling the open space with large colonies.... Ahhh.... the vision is coming :)

plyle02
06/06/2017, 06:37 AM
Update:
Started using AF Life Source, and did not have any adverse reactions to the tank. The mud is dispersed by placing and kneading with my fingers by the return pump. The tank is cloudy for maybe a half hour, and no real visible deposits, unless a larger piece escaped. This is a mud, it does not smell foul, it smells of minerals, like soil, very earthy. I understand this to be an extraction off the reefs of Fiji. The idea behind it is to help balance the micr-biology of the tank. With my tank being rather new, I see no harm in this :) Skimmer did not over-produce during dosing. Within an hour, the tank was crystal clear. I might mention that the tank has well seeded sand from my previous 120 gallon tank, and a few pieces of rock from that tank. I also have a piece of fiji live rock(air rock). I have tons of micro life, but absolutely understand the importance of balance with SPS. Cheers!!!

reefmutt
06/06/2017, 07:22 AM
Update:
Started using AF Life Source, and did not have any adverse reactions to the tank. The mud is dispersed by placing and kneading with my fingers by the return pump. The tank is cloudy for maybe a half hour, and no real visible deposits, unless a larger piece escaped. This is a mud, it does not smell foul, it smells of minerals, like soil, very earthy. I understand this to be an extraction off the reefs of Fiji. The idea behind it is to help balance the micr-biology of the tank. With my tank being rather new, I see no harm in this :) Skimmer did not over-produce during dosing. Within an hour, the tank was crystal clear. I might mention that the tank has well seeded sand from my previous 120 gallon tank, and a few pieces of rock from that tank. I also have a piece of fiji live rock(air rock). I have tons of micro life, but absolutely understand the importance of balance with SPS. Cheers!!!

Hey Perry, glad you are trying out this product. I'm curious about it. I was considering using it like Mark did (he is using W. S. Fiji mud) in a container, in a more static way. Instead of broadcasting it in the tank, using it as a sand bed in the sump.. maybe put it in flat containers that can be removed and replaced on a regular basis.. Because it is so fine, I don't think I'd make the bed thicker than 1 1/2 inch to 2 inches deep..
Broadcasting is makes me wonder where all the particles go.. I guess a skimmer and filter sock would remove some but I'm more concerned about it clogging biomedia..
Any thoughts?

plyle02
06/06/2017, 08:55 AM
Hey Perry, glad you are trying out this product. I'm curious about it. I was considering using it like Mark did (he is using W. S. Fiji mud) in a container, in a more static way. Instead of broadcasting it in the tank, using it as a sand bed in the sump.. maybe put it in flat containers that can be removed and replaced on a regular basis.. Because it is so fine, I don't think I'd make the bed thicker than 1 1/2 inch to 2 inches deep..
Broadcasting is makes me wonder where all the particles go.. I guess a skimmer and filter sock would remove some but I'm more concerned about it clogging biomedia..
Any thoughts?

Hi Matt,
I cannot imagine using it as a mud bed, to me it seems with water contact, that it would break down, it is literally mud :) When I broadcast, sure it settles, but the deposit at this point is so fine, it is even hard to see it build on the sand bed. I am using about 2 tablespoon worth every couple of weeks. I ball it up, then just let the water hit it and it quickly breaks down into a soot if you will. The water becomes cloudy grey, then it returns to normal. I would not see this really clogging sand or rocks, it is too fine for that. As you said, probably 40-50% is lost into the filter socks, skimmer, and other forms of filtration. Although my tank is rather new, I am confident that the micro-biology of the tank is well balanced. I will probably have to use it a few more times to see any benefits, but so far nothing bad has occurred :)

reefmutt
06/06/2017, 09:27 AM
Thanks, Perry!

codydemmel4
06/06/2017, 01:57 PM
looking good!

plyle02
06/08/2017, 06:25 AM
Thanks, Perry!

My pleasure Matt, while the "mud" if you will is still new, I think there are certain benefits to be obtained through it's use. I will make more keen observations next week when dosing and update accordingly. :)

looking good!

Thank You Sir!!!

Wrangy
06/08/2017, 10:22 PM
Weeeeewwww :D Good to see you back again Perry :) I'm looking forward to seeing what you can achieve in this little tank! I like the sounds of the mud lol

plyle02
06/09/2017, 08:42 AM
Hey Dom,
Thanks my man, I appreciate all the kind words! This little tank is going to rock, new light coming soon :) Yeah, I like this mud stuff, it seems to add some feeding potential to corals and inverts. Anyway, no negative effects, so time will tell.

glaukos
06/09/2017, 04:54 PM
So happy to see the new start buddy:beer:
Everything looks nice and i'm sure as the days go by they will become even better:thumbsup:

Wrangy
06/09/2017, 06:54 PM
Hey Dom,
Thanks my man, I appreciate all the kind words! This little tank is going to rock, new light coming soon :) Yeah, I like this mud stuff, it seems to add some feeding potential to corals and inverts. Anyway, no negative effects, so time will tell.
For sure! A little tank can be just as much fun and certainly as challenging as a bigger one :) You'll have to keep us updated with everything though!

MichaelW
06/09/2017, 09:18 PM
Perry nice to see the new set up. Im not around as much anymore but like to pop in on my mates journals every now and than. Cant wait to see how this one turns out.

Zoahoarder
06/15/2017, 02:04 PM
Hey perry, it was finally good to meet you and the family. Tank looks great and can't wait till you can throw that halide on top of it.

FloformAustria
06/15/2017, 11:39 PM
nice intro Perry!

can´t wait to see what you are going to do with this tank!

Cheers

plyle02
06/18/2017, 10:49 AM
So happy to see the new start buddy:beer:
Everything looks nice and i'm sure as the days go by they will become even better:thumbsup:

Hey Mike, how are you my friend? I have been kind of dormant around here, I need to get back in the game, lol :)

For sure! A little tank can be just as much fun and certainly as challenging as a bigger one :) You'll have to keep us updated with everything though!

Hi Dom, whats up mate! For a small tank, I sure am spending $$$. I do have some challenges as far as nutrients go, but starting to work down through consistent water changes. Thanks for the reply, hopefully soon I will have more to show.

Perry nice to see the new set up. Im not around as much anymore but like to pop in on my mates journals every now and than. Cant wait to see how this one turns out.

Thanks Michael, I appreciate you popping in :) Yep, new journal, new tank, new set of challenges, but I am happy to have this little setup. I cannot expand too much more, I like that, so once I get the new light up, I will start to see some results, at least I hope. All in all, the tank is setup exactly how I want it.

Hey perry, it was finally good to meet you and the family. Tank looks great and can't wait till you can throw that halide on top of it.

Hey Matt,
Thanks for coming by and having a beer, hope to see the lagoon going soon! We will have to get together soon for sure. Thanks again buddy!

nice intro Perry!

can´t wait to see what you are going to do with this tank!

Cheers

Hey Flo,
Thanks for looking in on the tank and journal. Right now things are kind of ho hum, but hopefully the new light will help get things going. I have not had much success with LED, so for now, I need to work with technology that I am familiar with. Soon I will get some pics :)

plyle02
06/18/2017, 10:59 AM
Update:
Tomorrow the light comes in, took awhile, but by Tues, I will be firing that bad boy up. As a reminder, it is a Hamilton Cayman Sun pendant, with a 250 watt SE Radium bulb. Hamilton also makes the ballast. I imagine this will light the footprint very well.(24"x24"x21"tall) depth is 5" less, due to filtration compartment. I will start the pendant at 14" above the tank, and slowly lower. The plan is to start at 5 hours a day for the first 2 weeks, then go to 6 hours a day. That will be the max as there is really no need for a longer photoperiod with this lamp. I will use a kessil all blue at max 30% to ramp dawn and dusk.
Aquascape Update:
I changed the pyramid to more of a bommie, I wanted to use the top portion of the tank for ample swim space. I now have 5 fish, and plan to get maybe 3 more total. Right now I have a pair of true percs, a longnose hawk, an ora black cardinal, and a female melanarus wrasse. I also have acquired some sick mari cultures, soon I will photo :) I got a crazy pink milli, a blue with yellow hues milli, a funky tenuis, and crazy pink with blue hues humilus. These are some killer bali maris by buddy Steve at Stormborn Reef has been bringing in. When I say hot, I mean hot... Never seen a humilus like this one, I cannot wait to get a sweet photo :)

FloformAustria
06/18/2017, 11:48 AM
now that is what i call light! :D

really looking forward to the new pictures!

Cheers

reefmutt
06/18/2017, 07:37 PM
Perry, updates are good and all and I'm glad to hear the light is coming in soon but you said you re scaped....
re scaped!
Dude, we need a pic..... come on... we are blind, here. :)

plyle02
06/19/2017, 03:01 PM
now that is what i call light! :D

really looking forward to the new pictures!

Cheers

I would have pictures, but taking them under LED is impossible for me, lol... I have confirmation that the new light has arrived, so tonight I will try and install. I am confident that my camera works well under halide lighting, so this should be good.

Perry, updates are good and all and I'm glad to hear the light is coming in soon but you said you re scaped....
re scaped!
Dude, we need a pic..... come on... we are blind, here. :)

Hey Matt,
I hear you, I cannot take pictures worth a darn under LED, I am using a prototype led, this thing only on for a week, and is blowing the Kessil lamps out of the water. If I knew this lamp would have worked so well, I may have stuck with it. However, I am really excited to re-visit halides, and Radium is the best one I have used in SE bulbs. I am partial to the Phoenix 14k in the DE bulbs. If installation is a breeze, I may have time to take pics tonight, otherwise I will have to wait until tomorrow. The new scape makes more sense, you will see when I post.
Thanks again man!

plyle02
07/02/2017, 07:57 AM
Update on the tank:

*Going to more basics on the tank.
*AF Probiotic Reef Salt, to Red Sea blue bucket, buffered with CA and MG prior to water changes.
*Plan to switch to Fritz RPM when the salt bucket is used up.
*Rely on 25% weekly water changes
*discontinue use of NP Pro/Pro Bio S, and all coral supplements
*still continue the use of Component 123/ made with 1/2 recommended trace
*Using AF Carbon and AF Phosphate Minus, passive in media basket
*Using AF Life Bio Fil, passive in filtration compartment
*3 drops weekly Bio S post water change
*Lighting with A160we Kessil as supplement, and 250 watt Radium 14" off surface 5 hours a day
*Currently 5 fish in the tank

If there is a system out there, I have tried it, and while many of them work, I think they require more work than necessary. For this setup, with the tank being an AIO, it simply makes more since to rely on a KISS method. I am very happy with nutrient levels, yesterday NO3= 2.5 and PO4= 0.02 These numbers are accomplished with nothing but water changes and more controlled feedings/bioload. I am feeding pellets daily twice, and frozen 3 times per week with LRS. Other than that, I have had the halide over the tank for a couple of weeks, and slowly starting to notice growth and better coloration. The bulb has not quite burned in yet, but the combo of the led and halide will likely yield some pretty killer results, here is to hoping :)

Geeray
07/02/2017, 06:44 PM
Update on the tank:

*Going to more basics on the tank.
*AF Probiotic Reef Salt, to Red Sea blue bucket, buffered with CA and MG prior to water changes.
*Plan to switch to Fritz RPM when the salt bucket is used up.
*Rely on 25% weekly water changes
*discontinue use of NP Pro/Pro Bio S, and all coral supplements
*still continue the use of Component 123/ made with 1/2 recommended trace
*Using AF Carbon and AF Phosphate Minus, passive in media basket
*Using AF Life Bio Fil, passive in filtration compartment
*3 drops weekly Bio S post water change
*Lighting with A160we Kessil as supplement, and 250 watt Radium 14" off surface 5 hours a day
*Currently 5 fish in the tank

If there is a system out there, I have tried it, and while many of them work, I think they require more work than necessary. For this setup, with the tank being an AIO, it simply makes more since to rely on a KISS method. I am very happy with nutrient levels, yesterday NO3= 2.5 and PO4= 0.02 These numbers are accomplished with nothing but water changes and more controlled feedings/bioload. I am feeding pellets daily twice, and frozen 3 times per week with LRS. Other than that, I have had the halide over the tank for a couple of weeks, and slowly starting to notice growth and better coloration. The bulb has not quite burned in yet, but the combo of the led and halide will likely yield some pretty killer results, here is to hoping :)


I'm very interested to seeYour results using half the recommended trace in component 1,2,3. I have been using it for a year and would definitely be interested in cutting the trace in half to make it last longer.

plyle02
07/03/2017, 07:22 AM
I'm very interested to seeYour results using half the recommended trace in component 1,2,3. I have been using it for a year and would definitely be interested in cutting the trace in half to make it last longer.

I will keep you posted, I am and plan on doing 25% water changes weekly, part of the husbandry on this setup. That being said, I feel this will be sufficient for nutrient control as well as balanced with trace. No need to use a full strength IMO. While I have believed in trace dosing for many years, none of my reefs have ever been overwhelmed with it, as I have mostly preferred to do light dosing and observe. So many ways to accomplish nice corals with beautiful colors, I really think it boils down to your setup and it's confinements. Based on my new tank, being an AIO, I had to change my approach from my previous tank. Cheers

cobra2326
07/03/2017, 08:03 AM
Pics! I'm excited to see how things look with the rescape and MH.

plyle02
07/03/2017, 08:41 AM
Not much to look at, but in all fairness, without pics a journal is lacking. I will post the good the bad and ugly. Many of my corals are brownish, they were all mostly raised under radion led's as frags. That said, they have to adjust to the powerful lighting the MH brings, some are browning. Anyway, a few pics of the setup and some potential in corals.

FTS, showing the cayman sun pendant suspended from ceiling, with A160we Kessil for supplement:

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/plyle02/IMG_8309.jpg

Aquamaxx WS-1 skimmer, working very well

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/plyle02/IMG_8308.jpg

Simplicity at it's finest, my sump, not really, but ATO and Dosing liquids under stand.

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/plyle02/IMG_8311.jpg

Forget name, but serious potential with this one

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/plyle02/IMG_8313.jpg

another forgotten name, still on the green side

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/plyle02/IMG_8314.jpg

supposedly a wolverine, who knows... browned out for sure

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/plyle02/IMG_8315.jpg

A little flubber

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/plyle02/IMG_8317.jpg

the layout FTS, recent scape change more low lying. I am liking the change.

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/plyle02/IMG_8318.jpg

lavender with neon tips tenuis, this one is going to rock!

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/plyle02/IMG_8321.jpg

A very pretty pink milli from Bali

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp331/plyle02/IMG_8325.jpg

Ucantwin
07/03/2017, 08:54 AM
None of the pics are showing up for me.

kainic
07/03/2017, 08:56 AM
"Please update your account to enable 3rd party hosting"

plyle02
07/03/2017, 09:17 AM
None of the pics are showing up for me.

"Please update your account to enable 3rd party hosting"

What are you guys using to post images, I have not been out of the game that long, now all of a sudden Photobucket wants $399 a year for 3rd party hosting. Not going to do that :)

kainic
07/03/2017, 09:22 AM
What are you guys using to post images, I have not been out of the game that long, now all of a sudden Photobucket wants $399 a year for 3rd party hosting. Not going to do that :)

I use Flickr for the DSLR pics but I don't know its maximum storage capacity. For the phone pics I guess you could use Google Drive (don't know if you can embed them but you can try)

Geeray
07/03/2017, 11:39 AM
The Amazon cloud shared files don't show up either

reefmutt
07/03/2017, 01:53 PM
Sounds like a good plan, Perry!
Ugh...don't tell me I'm going to have to find some way to move all of my Photobucket photos...

cobra2326
07/03/2017, 05:50 PM
Cabinet looks super clean! That pink milli is sweet, I'm jealous. Here's hoping I can achieve good colors like you guys do in my little 10g nuvo with LEDs.

Here's a story on the photobucket fiasco: https://www.pcmag.com/news/354711/photobucket-breaks-image-links-across-the-internet

Wrangy
07/03/2017, 07:42 PM
What a sh!t fight! Looks like I'll be finding a new hosting website and just leaving everything else there to rot lol. I think photobucket is going to lose probably all of it's user base lol
What a bunch of pricks!

plyle02
07/04/2017, 08:32 AM
I use Flickr for the DSLR pics but I don't know its maximum storage capacity. For the phone pics I guess you could use Google Drive (don't know if you can embed them but you can try)

I got on Flickr, not sure how to share the image yet, but did successfully upload, I will play around on the site today and see if I can get these recent images up, lol...

The Amazon cloud shared files don't show up either

Yeah, I do not use amazon for much, they too are just a freakin greedy...

Sounds like a good plan, Perry!
Ugh...don't tell me I'm going to have to find some way to move all of my Photobucket photos...

Man, I have all of my old pics here on the computer, but am done with PB, they were slow anyway, but now, GREED at it's finest...

Cabinet looks super clean! That pink milli is sweet, I'm jealous. Here's hoping I can achieve good colors like you guys do in my little 10g nuvo with LEDs.

Here's a story on the photobucket fiasco: https://www.pcmag.com/news/354711/photobucket-breaks-image-links-across-the-internet

Thanks for the link, read the user comments, they are getting some pretty brutal comments, PB won't be around much longer, just so familiar with it, sucks that I have to go elsewhere to share pics...

What a sh!t fight! Looks like I'll be finding a new hosting website and just leaving everything else there to rot lol. I think photobucket is going to lose probably all of it's user base lol
What a bunch of pricks!

Yes mate, I too am not thrilled by this move, no communication, just boom, if you want to continue to use our slow service, riddled with ads and pop ups, now you pay $399 per year. Sucks for those who decide to pay, the later to find out that the site will go out of business ;)

plyle02
07/04/2017, 08:52 AM
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plyle02
07/04/2017, 08:52 AM
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plyle02
07/04/2017, 08:57 AM
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Wrangy
07/04/2017, 05:45 PM
Such a nice neat little setup Perry :) How are you enjoying the halide over the t5's from the last tank??

reefmutt
07/06/2017, 01:13 PM
Nice Perry looking good.
Flikr.. hm. Have to look into that..
I just mentioned on Pife's thread that last year I bought some upgrade package from Photobucket at $10/mo I think.
So far my photos still work.. I'm wondering if I'll be cut off soon as well or if the purchase saves me...

plyle02
07/27/2017, 07:51 AM
Such a nice neat little setup Perry :) How are you enjoying the halide over the t5's from the last tank??

Hi Dom,
Thanks for the kind words mate! I love the halide, took awhile to burn the bulb in, like 2 weeks, but now the color is awesome. Most of my corals are frags from Radion lit tank with emphasis on mainly blue, so typically they brown out, then color back up. Cheers :)

plyle02
07/27/2017, 07:52 AM
Nice Perry looking good.
Flikr.. hm. Have to look into that..
I just mentioned on Pife's thread that last year I bought some upgrade package from Photobucket at $10/mo I think.
So far my photos still work.. I'm wondering if I'll be cut off soon as well or if the purchase saves me...


Hi Matt,
Yeah Flikr for now, let's hope RC steps up and provides direct linking like the other popular reef forum recently did ;)

cham
07/27/2017, 07:54 AM
Perry, when are you coming by for a beer and some frags? I'm starting to get enough grow out if you're looking

plyle02
07/27/2017, 08:07 AM
Yes, I would love some frags, especially those you scored from me, hint hint, acid trip :)

cham
07/27/2017, 09:09 AM
Yes, I would love some frags, especially those you scored from me, hint hint, acid trip :)

LOL, I got the acid trip directly from Mike that lived in Sanford (can't remember his RC name) ;)

Darn thing grows so slow, but I hope to frag it soon


But I did get a metric ton of stuff from you, I lost the tri color which I'm bummed about because it was such a nice one.


Also have a bunch of RMF & Atlantis stuff from Mike when I was there getting the acid trip

Ucantwin
07/27/2017, 12:09 PM
Did you also have the aqua sd rainbow milli? It looks similar to the acid trip and was wondering how different they are.

plyle02
07/28/2017, 07:06 AM
LOL, I got the acid trip directly from Mike that lived in Sanford (can't remember his RC name) ;)

Darn thing grows so slow, but I hope to frag it soon


But I did get a metric ton of stuff from you, I lost the tri color which I'm bummed about because it was such a nice one.


Also have a bunch of RMF & Atlantis stuff from Mike when I was there getting the acid trip

Hey Charles, I spoke with Cindy, she said heck yeah, let's BBQ and have a few coldies, lol... Let me know when is good for you, I have weekends off, Saturdays are good. As you know, I like fresh cuts, so no need to plug, I will shoot you a message, I still have your cell. Yeah, the acid trip grew painfully slow for me as well. That one is not necessary until you have plenty of size, no hurry. Stay in touch brother, good to hear from you :)

Did you also have the aqua sd rainbow milli? It looks similar to the acid trip and was wondering how different they are.

Hi,
I did not have the aqua sd rainbow, but agree, many pics showcase these two corals in the same light, so not sure that there is really much of a difference, IMO. I highly suggest you visit Steve at Stormborn Reef, he has the goods! He also does not try and take advantage, with all the hottest stuff you see in Orlando, as many stores shop the same wholesalers. He will name something if he finds it unique and special, but is not naming basic stuff, even if the other shops do. He has been around a long time and has a seasoned eye for rare corals. Also gets maricultures in, and some of them will blow you away, I scored a purple humilus from there, going to be a stunner :)

plyle02
07/28/2017, 07:24 AM
Update:
So I have not documented this on my system, since I have been sort of tracking an ongoing issue with this tank, and I have never experienced this before, so let me begin. I use a salt that mixes at 6.8dkh, and have been doing larger water changes each week at 25%, however, I would see alk increase in my tank on a daily basis of about .4dkh, which baffled me as I do not dose any minerals or trace. I decided to pull all the painted rock from the tank, most of it Real Reef Rock. I moved this rock into a separate tank I had laying around, now the tank is stable. In fairness, I had one more smaller piece of decorative rock that stayed in the system, and I was still climbing daily, but only at about.1-.2dkh. I removed it, and now only have real live rock from Fiji(air rock), and since removing all man made rock, I have now watched my alk stabilize. I am certain that this has caused me to lose about 6-8 corals since beginning this tank, and I am now seeing corals that looked washed out, burnt tips, and other signs of STN now coming back, showing polyps and gaining color. The single piece of live rock is around 20lbs, so not much natural filtration. I may add small pieces with corals mounted around the structure in time, but right now it looks pretty cool and simple, lol..

Part 2 of my update is tracking how NO3 and PO4 would work in my small system, especially due to it being limited for filtration area, as it is an AIO tank, and limited live rock. I was running about 5-10ppm on NO3 and 0.04 on PO4, depending on which day I tested, as the nutrients would creep until water change day, then go back down a bit. I have been using the Life Bio Fil passive in a mesh bag in the back of the filtration area. I had a BRS reactor lying around, I found a spot on the wall behind the tank, so it is hidden, and installed. I suspect about 150gph running through the media. From the time I installed it this way, I ran a NO3 and PO4 test 3 days later, without any water changes, and poof, NO3 no color change salifert, ZERO... PO4 also 0.00, so now I am using some of the AF supplements, as I need to get food to the corals. I am now feeding 2 times a day frozen, I only have 4 fish, but they are pigs. I cannot believe that running active with bio media versus passive would make this big of a difference. I am adding Bio S and Pro Bio S a couple of times per week, and NP Pro at a drop every few days. There is no real need for Phosphate remover at this point, and dosing. I suspect that if I dial down the flow rate through the media reactor, I might be able to control nutrients this way. Just thought I would share this experience. I am quite surprised to have ULNS in a AIO style tank as the skimmer is not over rated by any means.

Now the style of my system is a single low lying bommie, it looks pretty cool, I will have to upload a pic or 2 soon. The corals are looking better by the day, and the hopes for a minimalist display are in the works :)

reefmutt
07/28/2017, 07:44 AM
Wow, that's very interesting about the faux rock. I guess if it were made out of a concrete type material, it could leach buffering compounds.. I guess in a larger system, or one with more corals and growth, one might not even notice..
There is obviously a sweet spot for biomedia.. you seem to have found it, Perry.
Looking forward to new scape pics..

plyle02
07/28/2017, 07:55 AM
Wow, that's very interesting about the faux rock. I guess if it were made out of a concrete type material, it could leach buffering compounds.. I guess in a larger system, or one with more corals and growth, one might not even notice..
There is obviously a sweet spot for biomedia.. you seem to have found it, Perry.
Looking forward to new scape pics..

Yes,
12 years at sps keeping, I literally thought I was going mad... And yes, I have read about mineral leaching, but I did not think it would grow this fast. Combining daily alk increase with new corals is a no no, and I am lucky any corals are still alive, lol.. I scanned my 16 sps corals, a week ago, I though maybe I would end up with around 10-11, about 5 corals looked awe full. I now see PE in all but 1, and thinking I will recover on all but maybe one, it is holding in there too, so maybe not. I am stable at 8dkh now, but wanting to see it drop to around 6.8-7.2dkh, and hold. I suspect that as the corals begin to grow and become healthy, they will start consuming, then I will go online with comp 123 system. The biological media seems to like a constant source of water flowing through it to become effective. Perhaps many tune their flow rate too low as well, I am moving a fair amount of water over and through the media, it is also detritus free this way. Funny thing about it is that even my 120 gallon would never go ULNS, close, but that is why I think my corals maintained the saturation. Cheers Matt :beer:

reefmutt
07/29/2017, 11:54 AM
Maybe flow is the issue.
I added a couple small powerheads to my bio sump.. didn't seem to help much but maybe it just didn't push enough through the media. The reactor method is probably more efficient.
Glad your tank is rebounding well!

plyle02
07/30/2017, 09:09 AM
Sharing some angles of the reef structure update, corals still on the brown side. Now the alk is stable and under 8.0dkh, I think the corals will settle and then begin to color, at least I hope so :)

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reefmutt
07/30/2017, 02:24 PM
Nice Perry, I really like the head on shot.
Gonna be very cool soon enough.

Oldude
07/30/2017, 10:58 PM
Your tank looks good and loaded with potential Perry.

plyle02
07/31/2017, 06:08 AM
Nice Perry, I really like the head on shot.
Gonna be very cool soon enough.

Thanks Matt, I am having fun with this little setup :) I really love how Andrew(Biggles) has a low lying style shallow display, you see such little rock work in his setup. I like how he places corals on different rocks then sort of places them, as the corals grow, all you see is acro on acro after acro, this is what shows such vibrancy in his array of colors :) My intent now instead of the original pyramid design has forced this outcome. Soon we shall see :)

Your tank looks good and loaded with potential Perry.

Greg,
Thank you for looking in on my new setup, a smaller one indeed, but I am still in the hobby and stoked to try something new. I see that things are coming back around for you as well, so I will have my eyes peeled looking for updates. Hopefully I can get these corals to grow my friend! This setup does have some potential, so fingers crossed :)

Wrangy
07/31/2017, 05:47 PM
Groovy as Perry! Definitely really interesting to hear about the faux rock doing that as I used the same rock but didn't face those issues. Maybe there was something in the batch that was causing an excess leaching! It's good that you're not crazy though :lol:

plyle02
08/02/2017, 06:36 AM
Groovy as Perry! Definitely really interesting to hear about the faux rock doing that as I used the same rock but didn't face those issues. Maybe there was something in the batch that was causing an excess leaching! It's good that you're not crazy though :lol:


Hey Mate,
I did my do diligence in eliminating possibilities, I documented test after test for about 2 months. Each week before a 20% water change, I saw 1.5dkh increases, without any dosing. Given I have frags and the demand would be low, I knew I should slowly see alk decrease throughout the week, and likely a 25% water change would suffice until they took off. I finally decided to do some research, the only thing that I could logically think of is something sourcing alk back into the water. I checked RODI and it was like it should be, zero. So I pulled all decorative rock except one small piece, it too was later found to be leaching in very small amounts. I tested the bin where I stored the decorative rock and noticed that the alk climbed in that tank, whereas my display started to slowly stabilize. Not sure what or why, and up to this point, I have never really had anything negative with RRR. In a larger system with larger corals, likely you would never detect. Anyway, my structure was reduced to one single larger shelf of Fiji live rock, that was air freighted in, I will only use real live rock with any new display moving forward, some drawbacks, but paling in comparison to the benefits :) Cheers

Zoahoarder
08/04/2017, 12:55 PM
Dang that's crazy how the rock was leaching alk. Glad you found the source of the problem so you can get some sps in the tank. Looks great by the way.

plyle02
08/05/2017, 09:50 AM
Balance and low nutrients bringing in some color shifts, thanks for looking.

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Ucantwin
08/05/2017, 04:50 PM
Looking good!

Wrangy
08/08/2017, 11:43 PM
Gettin' groovy Perry :)

Ucantwin
01/06/2018, 08:57 AM
Any updates, Perry?

plyle02
01/08/2018, 05:21 AM
Any updates, Perry?

Oh yeah,
Definitely updates, but since my current project was rebooted, due to loss of ALL acros after Irma power outage, I did salvage some softies, and decided to take some time and allow the system to run sort of fallow. Not much in the way of dosing, routine, management, just kept the basics running and allowed my piece of Fiji LR completely cycle. I have since transitioned this tank to softie dominated bottom part of the reef, and have slowly started adding LPS, orange torch, acans, duncan, and also a cultured electric blue maxima clam. I also added bubblegum monti, and a piece of BOP BN. They are all doing very well at this point, and the system is giving me confidence to start adding acros again. I have a large top reef area where my final coral additions will be made. I would like to say that my mushroom collection/ passion inspired my return. The colors available are sick! The tank design is to run a clean colorful mixed reef. So I guess I can begin posting here again, lol :) The tank is super simple, I will update with photos, and equipment list, and all dosing, etc. The tank is lit by a single LED pendant that is 96 watts of 3 watt crees. Block 2 LED prototype, this thing puts out a ton of light, have plans to add 4 t5's, stay tuned :)
Cheers and Happy New Year!

Ucantwin
01/08/2018, 07:02 AM
Looking forward to the pics!

drawman
01/08/2018, 08:06 AM
Hey Perry sorry to hear about the acro loss! Good to see you on here with the build though I hope all is well. Time to add some acros I think :)

reefmutt
01/09/2018, 06:29 PM
Hey Perry, sorry to hear but I’m glad you’re still tinkering!

plyle02
01/14/2018, 06:41 AM
Looking forward to the pics!

I am going to try and get some pics today, kind of difficult with the blue in the led, but I can tweak my schedule and intensify the whites during photos, then post process for color rendering. I have always found that t5's are easiest for taking quality pics... I will give it the ole college try, lol :)

Hey Perry sorry to hear about the acro loss! Good to see you on here with the build though I hope all is well. Time to add some acros I think :)

Hey Tim, no worries... Irma was very scary, and Matthew year before was bad in our area as well. We were VERY lucky, but ended up being in direct path in our area as Irma passed by. We did fine with damage, lost power for a week, and the tank quite honestly was not of my concerns, we were lucky! That all being said, this gave me a chance to A. play around and learn led's B. Reboot with something less difficult to manage C. Enjoy reefing again from the ground up D. Little stress managing softies, so the tank became fun again :)

Hey Perry, sorry to hear but I’m glad you’re still tinkering!

Hi Matt, long time my friend! Tinkering again yes, good to start adding sps to this tank design, I am more than satisfied with the appearance of this tank. I have some crazy rhodactis shrooms, bounce, 12 different paly species, maxima clam, beautiful neon toady, some acans, orange torch, some real quality ultra and rainbow corals for sure. Yesterday I purchased a blue tipped granulosa, and A. Rosaria. Both were chunky fresh cuts from maricultured shipment that were going for over a year at my LFS. I also have bubblegum monti digi, and ORA BOP BN. That is now 4 SPS, I will be adding about 10-15 more sps, and continue with my paly and shroom craze. Will be updating lighting soon, and it will by hybrid for sure. I really want that new ATI hybrid t5/led lamp, just beautiful!!!

plyle02
01/14/2018, 07:57 AM
Here is a pic from this morning. The corals are still small, but progress being made :)

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plyle02
01/27/2018, 04:55 AM
Couple hardware additions to the tank and pic for reference.
1. Tunze 9040 controllable nano wavemaker pump
2. Aquatic Life Hybrid 24" 4x24 watt t5(2 KZ Super Blue, 1 ATI Coral Plus, 1 ATI Actinic)

Did not care for the hanging kit, but luckily I already had suspension cables in place, so I modified. The LED panel was able to be mounted and looks amazing. The t5's are definitely throwing much more light than expected, so I had to tune down my led and cut whites out completely. I am very impressed, and at the price point, I figured why not try. Glad I did, this looks awesome! Here is a quick pic taken last night :)

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plyle02
01/27/2018, 08:06 AM
Still in process of collecting SPS. The tank is full of other corals, but here are some of my 6 SPS corals at the moment.

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plyle02
01/27/2018, 08:10 AM
Some other additional angles of the tank :)

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reefmutt
01/27/2018, 08:35 AM
Hey Perry looking good. I like the concept of the aquatic life fixtures. Nice versatility.
I forget, which leds are you using?
I thought the 24 inch only accommodated one led.. looks like you have two in there.. I like that as well.

plyle02
01/27/2018, 09:44 AM
Hey Perry looking good. I like the concept of the aquatic life fixtures. Nice versatility.
I forget, which leds are you using?
I thought the 24 inch only accommodated one led.. looks like you have two in there.. I like that as well.


Hey Matt,
Using HME Block2 LED
Here are the specs:
BLOCK 2C

CCT:20000K
​LED: 6500K Cool white /CREE XP-G2 8pcs
390nm UV /Semiled C3535 2pcs
410nm UV /Semiled C3535 2pcs
450nm Royal blue /CREE XTE 12pcs
470nm Blue /CREE XBD 4pcs
505nm Cyan /OSRAM OSLON 2pcs
660nm Deep Red /OSRAM OSLON 2pcs
LED MAX Power: 140W
Adapter: Input: 85~264VAC
Output: 15V/9.6A

plyle02
01/27/2018, 09:52 AM
Matt,
I am certain that the LED lamp alone is well enough for the tank, but I wanted to have best of both worlds. I will point out that there was little shading on corals, the spread was nice stand alone. I have had good success for many years with t5's. I have learned more about LED's and can say that I am very happy combing proven technology and flat light with the brilliance of LED. I am not using any whites at all on the LED, but they peak at 80%. I use only 10% peak on Cyan/ Green(same channel), and UV at 15% peak. It is in my thoughts that they are not so necessary, specifically with my color scheme in the t5's. The color scheme is brilliant alone, but the LED blues really help with pop.

Cheapreef
01/27/2018, 10:38 AM
Matt,
I am certain that the LED lamp alone is well enough for the tank, but I wanted to have best of both worlds. I will point out that there was little shading on corals, the spread was nice stand alone. I have had good success for many years with t5's. I have learned more about LED's and can say that I am very happy combing proven technology and flat light with the brilliance of LED. I am not using any whites at all on the LED, but they peak at 80%. I use only 10% peak on Cyan/ Green(same channel), and UV at 15% peak. It is in my thoughts that they are not so necessary, specifically with my color scheme in the t5's. The color scheme is brilliant alone, but the LED blues really help with pop.

Great looking tank.
Sorry maybe I missed it.
What bulb combo are you running for the T5's? I run something similar on my shallow reef , 2 AI 26's with 4 T5's. Just curious what others running hybrids run for the combo. :)

plyle02
01/27/2018, 10:51 AM
Great looking tank.
Sorry maybe I missed it.
What bulb combo are you running for the T5's? I run something similar on my shallow reef , 2 AI 26's with 4 T5's. Just curious what others running hybrids run for the combo. :)

Hello, and thank you very much!

Front to back postioning:
1. KZ Super Blue
2. ATI Coral Plus
****LED PANEL(HME BLOCK2C)****
3. ATI True Actinic
4. KZ Super Blue

Cheapreef
01/27/2018, 11:16 AM
Hello, and thank you very much!

Front to back postioning:
1. KZ Super Blue
2. ATI Coral Plus
****LED PANEL(HME BLOCK2C)****
3. ATI True Actinic
4. KZ Super Blue

Nice. :) Very close to mine, only difference is I use Blue+ rather than the KZ since ATI is pretty much all that is available in town.

plyle02
01/27/2018, 02:09 PM
Nice. :) Very close to mine, only difference is I use Blue+ rather than the KZ since ATI is pretty much all that is available in town.

Yep,
I have used both, and they are VERY comparable in terms of color. I was turned on to KZ back in 2007, anytime I can get a deal, which I did, I choose them, otherwise, it is ATI all the way. I love KZ Fiji Purple, but, I think that ATI Coral Plus and the Actinic are a perfect compliment to blue bulbs. Nice thing is, that the LED panel gives me plenty of options to dial in the perfect spectrum :) Cheers!

reefmutt
01/27/2018, 02:59 PM
Hey Perry, I’ve done the same with my AI Primes.. whites are at 10% when maxed, I turned the red and green off completely and only use the uv, violet, and the blues..
I like the color combo on that block2c. Gonna check it out..

plyle02
01/28/2018, 07:38 AM
Hey Perry, I’ve done the same with my AI Primes.. whites are at 10% when maxed, I turned the red and green off completely and only use the uv, violet, and the blues..
I like the color combo on that block2c. Gonna check it out..

Hey Matt,
The light is pretty powerful, again, stand alone I could have pulled it off, but there is something that t5 brings, specifically as it relates to certain acros. I was really close to going with Atlantik V4 Compact, which would have been insane, but already had this lamp, and been watching this Aquatic Life fixture, and said, what the heck, turned out perfect. Now I have all the power and control I need. The t5's are not as powerful as ATI for example, but powerful enough to grow acros at the depth they have been placed. Fixture is 10" off the water line,n tank depth 21". The LED will take care of the rest, and the blue spectrum, as I understand it, is the only one the corals need to fluoresce and grow, but don't quote me, lol..

plyle02
02/03/2018, 07:23 AM
Hey guys,
Progress being made, was able to get a few updated photos. Taken under only t5 lamps, so colors are not quite as sweet as when LED on, post rendered to appear as close to possible as what the eye sees. I have now upped my acro game. Currently have 8 acros, and total of 11 sps corals. I have plans to add a few more of all variety of corals, but have specific corals planned for remaining real-state. Cheers!

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reefmutt
02/04/2018, 08:04 AM
Nice Perry! Looking forward to the inevitable acro bush!!

plyle02
02/04/2018, 08:24 AM
Nice Perry! Looking forward to the inevitable acro bush!!


Hi Matt,
Cindy is learning, perhaps too much about reefkeeping, she has noticed my buying trends as of late, and is getting nervous of an eventual sps takeover, LOL... I have to admit, I have sort of been an acro junkie lately, but fortunately, I am running out of space, so I have to be picky on what goes into the tank moving forward :) Thanks Matt!!!

reefmutt
02/04/2018, 09:52 AM
You can always take out the duds and replace them with ‘potentials’
It never stops, I though you knew that by now, Perry.

plyle02
02/24/2018, 02:59 PM
Yeah Matt,
I totally get you :)
On a positive note, I was able to push my sps collection to 20 corals total, as far as sps goes. I scored from a local friend of mine some killer frags today. Including, Hyperberry, Hawkins, SC OP, Exquista, Frogskin, Pearlberry, PC Rainbow, and a few others. For non SPS, scored a Red Devil shroom last week too. My collection is up to around 50 corals, maybe more in this tank. I see another tank on the horizon, as I know I will want one tank for my softies and lps, and likely another stick only tank. Oh the hobby can just suck you right in, like tractor beams.....lol :)

markalot
02/24/2018, 06:45 PM
Pics!

reefmutt
02/26/2018, 10:01 AM
Pics!

:)

What he said...
That was some serious name dropping!

plyle02
02/26/2018, 04:43 PM
Hey Mark and Matt,
Still a young tank, and very much a work in progress, but have some corals showing nice colors. Will try and get some better sps pics this upcoming weekend. Thanks Guys!

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Ucantwin
02/26/2018, 05:29 PM
Nice update and pics!

Wrangy
02/28/2018, 08:13 PM
Top stuff Perry! Coming along nicely mate :)

glaukos
03/01/2018, 06:53 AM
Things look really nice buddy:beer:
Love the aquascape:inlove:
Will you add more corals or you're done?

plyle02
03/02/2018, 04:07 AM
Nice update and pics!

Thanks Bubba! Things still moving along, my work schedule has been brutal, so I have not had much time with the tank this week. Looking forward to a relaxing weekend :)

Top stuff Perry! Coming along nicely mate :)

Hi Dom, thanks for stopping in on the journal. This system grows on me more and more every day. I love the acros, but have really developed a love for mushroom corals and palys. I truly want to display a diverse mixed reef, where all corals are thriving, tricky, but fun :) Hope all is well mate!

Things look really nice buddy:beer:
Love the aquascape:inlove:
Will you add more corals or you're done?

Long time my good friend, you decided to emerge from the shadow as I have, lol :) I love the SPS platform and all my buds world wide, miss the days of all our rampant posts. Common guys, Biggles, where you at man, let's just use Flickr, I actually like it better than that other crap site. I hope you are well in beautiful Greece! Cheers Mate!

glaukos
03/03/2018, 09:06 AM
So true buddy! Miss those days too but what can you do,life gets always in the way:)
At least the love for our hobby is the same and for me that's the most important part:beer:

plyle02
03/03/2018, 10:04 AM
Mike, agreed 100%

A few sps photos from today. Colors looking ok, some fantastic, some drab, as it goes in the sps world, lol. All in all, I believe that the system is running well, sps starting to encrust, also noticing growth at tips, great news, will start balling with AF soon, as water changes have sufficed so far. Cheers

BC Blue Polyp Granny:

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SC Orange Passion:

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Not named Blue/Green Tenuis:

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ORA Birds Of Paradise:

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My Favorite, Bubblegum Digi, such a bright coral :

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Green Milli, with Hyperberry blurred to right in background:

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PC Rainbow:

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BG Digi, Maxima Clam, Acans, ORA BOP, Frogskin:

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Rainbows in Spain:

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plyle02
03/04/2018, 07:15 AM
A quick video, nothing special, but gives an idea of layout.
Cheers

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glaukos
03/04/2018, 08:53 AM
Love it man, that's a great vid:thumbsup:
Can't wait to see all that space taken over by these corals.
You could throw some music in there next time:p:p

plyle02
03/04/2018, 02:53 PM
Love it man, that's a great vid:thumbsup:
Can't wait to see all that space taken over by these corals.
You could throw some music in there next time:p:p

Hey buddy, decided to throw a bit of music in the video, it makes it more worth watching, lol. Thanks for the kind words!

Ucantwin
03/04/2018, 04:14 PM
Throughly enjoyed the video! The colors on your rock anemone look pretty spectacular.

plyle02
03/04/2018, 04:23 PM
Throughly enjoyed the video! The colors on your rock anemone look pretty spectacular.

Thank You!
That rock nem has been with me the longest of all corals/inverts. I have had this for over a year, funny thing is when I re-scaped, the positioning of the rock put it dead center of the display, it never moved... It is without a doubt one of the first pieces that catches visitors eye, that and the torch. I tried to really think things through on positioning, my upper deck is only acros, the lower deck is mixed. I will eventually move the torch, I think it will out grow this spot, but have an idea of where I will place. Once that is complete, I will put a few more acros in it's place. Some sps are looking sweet, some drab, I have found that the ones doing the best are aquacultured. The ones not so well came in as mari-cultures and were fragged. This is why I wanted this challenge, to create colorful corals, despite their requirements, only time will tell :) Cheers

plyle02
03/18/2018, 10:23 AM
Update:
I have added a couple more fish to the system, always looking for unique small/nano size fish. I acquired a Meyer's Dragonette, and a Geometric Pygmy Hawkfish. Here is my updated fish list:
* Pair of True Perc's
* ORA Black Cardinal
* High Fin Goby
* Yasha Goby/ Paired with Tiger Pistol
* Geometric Pygmy Hawkfish
* Meyer's Dragonette

I also decided to inventory the tank, I could have identified more corals, but wanted to have a list documented, no better place than your journal :)
Softies~
Tyree Neon Green Toadstool
11 assorted paly/ zoas(some named, some not)
OG WWC Bounce
Red Devil Shroom
SBR Blueberry Bounce
Rainbow Yuma
Ironman Shroom
Rainbow Discoma
Blue/Green Discoma
Green Rhodactis
5 assorted Rainbow Rhodactis species
Fireworks Clove
Rainbow Clove

LPS~
Orange Torch
Blue/Green Duncan
Green Rainbow Acan
Red Rainbow Acan
Pink/Blue Lobo

SPS~
Hyperberry
Un-named Rainbow Tenuis
SC Orange Passion
Hawkins Echinata
BC Blue Polyp Granulosa
Rainbows over Spain
Pink Lemonade
Exquisita Acro
Pink Milli
Frogskin
Blue/Green Tenuis
PC Rainbow
Pearlberry
Un-named Pink Floydish Acro
Acropora Rosaria
Cali Tort
Green/Yellow Milli
Bubblegum Digi
Birds Of Paradise BN
Grafted Orange/Green Monitpora

plyle02
03/18/2018, 10:30 AM
And some photos taken today, a few non sps, but had to... LOL

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Ucantwin
03/18/2018, 01:28 PM
When the bounce mushrooms first came out, I thought they looked horrible. The more I see them the more they are growing on me. After seeing yours it makes me want one now, lol.

plyle02
03/18/2018, 01:52 PM
When the bounce mushrooms first came out, I thought they looked horrible. The more I see them the more they are growing on me. After seeing yours it makes me want one now, lol.


After being a stick head for many years, still am, I have opened up to different types of corals. I have a pretty good shroom collection. I will continue to build my collection along the base of the reef. Bounces are totally addictive, here is my recent one :)

SBR Blueberry Bounce

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reefmutt
03/19/2018, 12:17 PM
Hey Perry, looking good!
The corals are definitely starting to settle in.
Good pe and they are juuuust starting to sprout. Get that balling ready!
I think if I were a wrestler..... or a porn star... my stage name would be ‘blue polyp granny’ just to throw people off a bit!

SawCJack00
03/20/2018, 02:38 PM
Looking good Perry!

Zoahoarder
03/21/2018, 01:04 PM
Wow what an amazing sps collection you've already got. The bounce shroom is looking wicked. Can't wait to see it in a year or so.

Wrangy
03/21/2018, 07:33 PM
Crack-a-lackin Perry!! Love that bounce too! :D I recently found myself enjoying some shrooms too haha

plyle02
03/23/2018, 04:11 AM
Hey Perry, looking good!
The corals are definitely starting to settle in.
Good pe and they are juuuust starting to sprout. Get that balling ready!
I think if I were a wrestler..... or a porn star... my stage name would be ‘blue polyp granny’ just to throw people off a bit!

Matt, I dare you to get a t-shirt made with that stage name, I bet you would get plenty of awkward looks, lol :) I have finally noticed that as the bases are laying down, that I am now seeing small consumption shift, not enough to go online with balling yet. I am thinking of using the Component Strong bottles and doing weekly trace, but using simple 2 part for maintaining alk and ca. That is the plan anyway :)

Looking good Perry!

Thanks Bill! Best of luck to you on your new build. Thanks again :)

Wow what an amazing sps collection you've already got. The bounce shroom is looking wicked. Can't wait to see it in a year or so.

Yeah, that one looks familiar doesn't it, lol... That bounce is growing quickly, it is easily size of a quarter now. Bounces are also getting bigger, just love that coral! Come by soon, tank is almost full...

Crack-a-lackin Perry!! Love that bounce too! :D I recently found myself enjoying some shrooms too haha

Hey Dom, thanks for the compliment mate! Mushrooms are the craze hear in Orlando, we are seeing some killer looking shrooms coming in, and my collection grows, lol :) I have a nice little collection going, with plans on adding several more bounce corals. I am also eyeing an Aussie Flame Thrower, and a few Eclectus varieties as well. They are fetching a large price here, like $600 to a $1000 US per baby. And I thought the high dollar acros were ridiculous, these shrooms are outrageous, but beautiful at the same time. Cheers

Wrangy
03/25/2018, 03:33 PM
Hey Dom, thanks for the compliment mate! Mushrooms are the craze hear in Orlando, we are seeing some killer looking shrooms coming in, and my collection grows, lol :) I have a nice little collection going, with plans on adding several more bounce corals. I am also eyeing an Aussie Flame Thrower, and a few Eclectus varieties as well. They are fetching a large price here, like $600 to a $1000 US per baby. And I thought the high dollar acros were ridiculous, these shrooms are outrageous, but beautiful at the same time. Cheers
Tell me about it haha I managed to score a deadpool with a gold rim and holy sh!t is it gorgeous :inlove: my shroom list is kryptonite, jawbreaker, ecletus, wwc bounce, purple monster and whatever else takes my fancy haha that's like 8k in shrooms though :blown:

plyle02
03/26/2018, 04:48 AM
Tell me about it haha I managed to score a deadpool with a gold rim and holy sh!t is it gorgeous :inlove: my shroom list is kryptonite, jawbreaker, ecletus, wwc bounce, purple monster and whatever else takes my fancy haha that's like 8k in shrooms though :blown:

I only have 3 fancy shrooms at this point: WWC OG Bounce, Mr. Blue Bounce, and Red Devil, but also have some insane non bounce Rhodactis. My LFS has some killer shrooms right now, and has been cutting me some nice deals. All these shrooms are holding value around here, so unlike some fancy acros that fetch a huge price, and a year later they are like 1/4 cost, these shrooms seem to hold value. It seems the fancier they are, the slower they are to pop babies, likely why they hold value :) If Andrew heard our excitement over a soft coral, he would probably has us banned here, LOL :) BTW, I still am buying acros, they are filling my top and middle reef, and just had a buddy cut me strawberry wine, shortcake, fox flame, asd rainbow milli, hopefully will get over there this Saturday coming up. So, it's not all softies around here guys, lol ;)

Zoahoarder
03/27/2018, 05:19 AM
Yeah, that one looks familiar doesn't it, lol... That bounce is growing quickly, it is easily size of a quarter now. Bounces are also getting bigger, just love that coral! Come by soon, tank is almost full...


Man I see your tank is almost full already. Good thing they're about to release a few more tank here soon or already did. Your going to need an upgrade. Lol tank should be on day 3 of my aquaforest bio s cycle. Can't wait to get some stuff to fill it. Lol let see how long that takes since it's only a 12g tank. My buddy has another wwc bounce if your interested or know someone looking. Its a lil bit more than the one you got from me. I'll have to drive up there after we get back from Mexico to check it out.

plyle02
03/28/2018, 06:12 AM
Man I see your tank is almost full already. Good thing they're about to release a few more tank here soon or already did. Your going to need an upgrade. Lol tank should be on day 3 of my aquaforest bio s cycle. Can't wait to get some stuff to fill it. Lol let see how long that takes since it's only a 12g tank. My buddy has another wwc bounce if your interested or know someone looking. Its a lil bit more than the one you got from me. I'll have to drive up there after we get back from Mexico to check it out.

An announcement will be made this week by Waterbox, I happen to know all the new designs, and have already chosen the model. The frag series with sump and AIO are going to be insane, matching the larger models cabinetry. I am going to take over the play room, it will be my man cave, assuming the wife allows, LOL :) Meanwhile, I am just humming along with this project, and am really looking forward to seeing mature colonies, so the upgrade if and when will be a slow build. Chat with you soon Matt!