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Jyetman
05/27/2017, 10:56 AM
Whenever a float sensor activates or switch fusion gives an alert naming the outlet's program line the sensor is associated with. How do I change these alerts so I have more descriptive information?

RussM
05/27/2017, 11:07 AM
You cannot change the content of the alerts themselves. If your switch inputs still have default names, rename to something brief but descriptive.

Examples:

Leak1
SumpHi
SwATO



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Jyetman
05/27/2017, 11:18 AM
You cannot change the content of the alerts themselves. If your switch inputs still have default names, rename to something brief but descriptive.

Examples:

Leak1
SumpHi
SwATO



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This is the problem how do you make sense of these alerts?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vg5ueqvn908ddwm/senseof.JPG?dl=0

RussM
05/27/2017, 01:00 PM
That alerts log is telling you that your Scrub_Pump is turning off and on frequently. The Status OFF / Set OFF means that the previously active alarm condition has cleared and the alarm output has turned off.

What is Scrub_Pump and how is its outlet programmed?


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divetoday
05/27/2017, 01:21 PM
I just installed my Apex this week, and I definitely agree with the OP that more could be done with those alarm messages.


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Jyetman
05/27/2017, 04:59 PM
That alerts log is telling you that your Scrub_Pump is turning off and on frequently. The Status OFF / Set OFF means that the previously active alarm condition has cleared and the alarm output has turned off.

What is Scrub_Pump and how is its outlet programmed?


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So this is the Scrub_Pump Outlet programming:

Fallback ON
Set ON
If ATO-LO CLOSED Then OFF
If Scrub OPEN Then OFF
If Output ALD_DTop = ON Then OFF
If Output MST_ALM_DIS = ON Then ON
If Output BkupChiller = ON Then ON
Defer 000:06 Then ON
If Power EB8_3 Off 000 Then OFF

The "If Scrub OPEN then OFF" is whats activating and that's what should be included in the fusion alert message.

vanburen
05/27/2017, 05:00 PM
I use virtual outlets which I name logically - skimmerFull for instance. Then I program the virtual outlet with the corresponding switch. I make the outlet on if the "bad" condition is true. The emails then reference the well named outlets rather than the poorly named switches. I would rather see Alarm SumpLevelHi =on than Alarm swx3_1 closed or whatever.


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vhuang168
05/27/2017, 05:01 PM
Seems pretty descriptive to me. You have an alert that turns on when your outlet Scrub_Pump turns off. The alert turns off when your pump turns back on. Looks like it's cycling pretty quickly.

Like what RussM asked, what is Scrub_Pump and how is it programmed?


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vanburen
05/27/2017, 05:01 PM
For instance outlet skimmerfull
Set off
If swx3_1 closed then on

Email alarm
If outlet skimmerfull on then on


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RussM
05/27/2017, 06:17 PM
The "If Scrub OPEN then OFF" is whats activating and that's what should be included in the fusion alert message

The problem here is that you are triggering an alarm based on the state of the Scrub_Pump outlet instead of the switch to input itself. If that's what you want specially to be in the alarm message, then you need to use If Scrub OPEN Then ON in the email output program instead of If Scrub_Pump...




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slief
05/28/2017, 11:43 AM
I use virtual outlets which I name logically - skimmerFull for instance. Then I program the virtual outlet with the corresponding switch. I make the outlet on if the "bad" condition is true. The emails then reference the well named outlets rather than the poorly named switches. I would rather see Alarm SumpLevelHi =on than Alarm swx3_1 closed or whatever.


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+1 to virtual outlets.. I use them for all kinds of things. This is my email alarm outlet programming. Most of what you see there are virtual outlets. In fact, the only thing that isn't a virtual outlet is the lines for Temp. When I get an email or text alert, I know exactly what the issue is. In the case of a leak, I know exactly where to look.

Set OFF
If Temp > 82.7 Then ON
If Temp < 74.5 Then ON
If Outlet SalinityLow = ON Then ON
If Outlet SalinityHigh = ON Then ON
If Outlet SumpTooFull = ON Then ON
If Outlet SumpLow = ON Then ON
If Outlet SkimOverflow = ON Then ON
If Outlet Return = OFF Then OFF
If Outlet SkimOverflow = ON Then ON
If Outlet Leak_Sump = ON Then ON
If Outlet Leak_Pumps = ON Then ON
If Outlet Leak_Closet = ON Then ON
If Outlet Leak_Shed = ON Then ON
If Outlet BoB_Unplug = ON Then ON
Defer 003:00 Then ON

Jyetman
05/28/2017, 03:14 PM
Not sure why I didn't catch that so added the float switch name in the email outlet.

vanburen
05/28/2017, 04:10 PM
I'm wrestling now with sorting alerts so that I get email alerts for conditions and alarms - but my failed circuit sounder only goes off for alarms. I kill power to its outlet to set it off as an audible alarm as the display alarm sucks. Right now I set the sounder to alarm if the email alarm is on. That isn't going to work for this...


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azsoccerpop
05/31/2017, 10:08 AM
+1 to virtual outlets.. I use them for all kinds of things. This is my email alarm outlet programming. Most of what you see there are virtual outlets. In fact, the only thing that isn't a virtual outlet is the lines for Temp. When I get an email or text alert, I know exactly what the issue is. In the case of a leak, I know exactly where to look.

Set OFF
If Temp > 82.7 Then ON
If Temp < 74.5 Then ON
If Outlet SalinityLow = ON Then ON
If Outlet SalinityHigh = ON Then ON
If Outlet SumpTooFull = ON Then ON
If Outlet SumpLow = ON Then ON
If Outlet SkimOverflow = ON Then ON
If Outlet Return = OFF Then OFF
If Outlet SkimOverflow = ON Then ON
If Outlet Leak_Sump = ON Then ON
If Outlet Leak_Pumps = ON Then ON
If Outlet Leak_Closet = ON Then ON
If Outlet Leak_Shed = ON Then ON
If Outlet BoB_Unplug = ON Then ON
Defer 003:00 Then ON

+1 on this. use switches to turn on the virtual Outlets and base your email alerst against the outlet not the trigger.

ca1ore
06/02/2017, 10:24 PM
Plus, there re limitations to the number of probes/switches you can name - in the classic apex at least.