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Atomic081
05/31/2017, 02:45 PM
Hello Everyone!

Im starting this thread to help get my creative juices flowing during my planning stages of my tank. I feel like I need some people to brainstorm with me to get the most out of my time when the build starts. I will create a new build thread once I start actually building the tanks.

A quick overview of my Reefing History:
I have been into reefkeeping since October of 2007. I started with a Biocube, Then a 90g, then Back to a biocube, next was a 57g and then my current setup is a 220g. My current system is around 500 total gallons including the fish room. Pictures of my current setup:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/atomic081/220g.jpg (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/atomic081/media/220g.jpg.html)

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/atomic081/20140407_173735.jpg (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/atomic081/media/20140407_173735.jpg.html)

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/atomic081/20140407_173748.jpg (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/atomic081/media/20140407_173748.jpg.html)




We are to break ground on our new house this august. In the basement I will have a Fish Tank system that is roughly 1200 to 1500 gallons. Below is a few pictures of the current basement floorplan.

Fish Room only:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/atomic081/Fish%20Room.png (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/atomic081/media/Fish%20Room.png.html)

Basement Plan:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g27/atomic081/Basement.png (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/atomic081/media/Basement.png.html)



I have quite a few thoughts on the new system. Usually I am on somewhat of a limited budget. I dont like spending money on something that I wont get maximum value out of. So high end equipment is usually out for me . I usually go for value equipment unless its a major difference.

I also dont love the fact that im putting the tank in the basement. I would have loved to have the tank in our living room upstairs. Unfortunately my wife doesn't want to deal with the space if we get rid of the tank someday. Because of this ive made sure the kids bedrooms are in the basement. I want to force myself to be around the tank. I believe its very important to place the tank were you see it daily. The out of sight, out of mind tank will be the demise of a tank.

1. Plywood Tank:
I own a company that builds custom homes. Give me a Tree and i can build anything out of it. because of this I really feel comfortable building a plywood tank.

2. Inwall tank:
This is a suggestion from my wife. She likes the look of the inwall tanks. So while she isnt the biggest fan of the hobby, if she suggests something I take note!

3. One 750gallon (120"x48"x30") tank or two 400gallon (72"x42"x30") tanks:
Im leaning toward the two 400 gallon tanks. I really love Angelfish and some aggressive bigger fish. So I might do one tank with Angels and SPS. Then another tank with LPS and Tangs/smaller fish.

4. Foam Rock wall:
I really like the look and the ability to mount corals on the sidewalls. Being its a inwall tank, the 3 sides could all be a rock wall. Im very concerned though about the longevity of a rock wall though. I dont wana be rebuilding in 10 years. Im very one the fence with this!! opinions?

5. 150g rubbermaid sump with a 50g rubbermaid for skimmer sump

6. Bubble magus B12 skimmer

7. Eight Mars Aqua 30" Leds

8. Geo Calcium reactor

9. (2)Maxspect Gyro Xf 280. One in each tank.

10. Reeflo Hammerhead return pump.
Ill have plenty of waterflow using the return pump to help supplement the 2 Gyros.

11. Apex Neptune Controller.
Im very on the fence with the controller. They are very nice but I tend to think I can spend my money better elsewhere. Because I tend to use value type equipment, they usually dont pair up with the apex very well without alot more money. For now im going to plan on one, but it could be gone by the time i start the build.

12. I have come apon 6 commercial stack-able Vertical 75g tanks like in a fish store. I plan on setting up 3 or 4 of them. They are separated in 1/3s. I plan on using one for a refugium, one for a Anemone grow out system, one for a quarantine tank. I could use the 4th for another grow out system.

13. Im taking my 60g Frag tank from my current setup. its a 48"x24"x12" shallow tank.




Im open for any suggestions, that anyone has. Im still very much in the planning stages but feel like i have a good idea of where i wanna go.

Ross

marleesan
05/31/2017, 03:17 PM
I would do one big tank. Big angels and tangs would do better in the ten foot tank

Atomic081
05/31/2017, 03:49 PM
I would do one big tank. Big angels and tangs would do better in the ten foot tank

I dont disagree! Its my biggest decision and ive gone back and forth many time on this. It either Angelfish and SPS or SPS/LPS/Zoanthids and no Angelfish. If i do two 6' tanks then I can do both. Although might not be the best for the Angels.

anbosu
05/31/2017, 05:06 PM
I would do the one big tank, you can always do the LPS and zoas in one of your other tanks. If you really want to do 2 tanks, I would suggest going 8' with the angel/SPS tank and 6' with the other tank.

Do plywood tanks have an expected life of 10+ years?

Ricardo18
05/31/2017, 05:16 PM
I have one big tank now. My next set-up (always thinking of "the next set-up!") will be 2 or 3.
There are so many beautiful options that will not go in one tank.
-A dedicated Anenome and Clown tank
-An angel and semi-aggressive tank with Coral
-An SPS/LPS tank with minimal fish
...PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Atomic081
06/01/2017, 11:34 AM
I would do the one big tank, you can always do the LPS and zoas in one of your other tanks. If you really want to do 2 tanks, I would suggest going 8' with the angel/SPS tank and 6' with the other tank.

Do plywood tanks have an expected life of 10+ years?



I don't plan on having another display tank in the house and we want the tanks to be even in the room. 2 8' tanks is out of the question. For now......lol

The life of a plywood tank is all based on how thick you apply the epoxy. I plan on doing a 1/4" pour method with my tank. It should last forever!! (Famous last words I know!)






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anbosu
06/01/2017, 11:41 AM
I don't plan on having another display tank in the house and we want the tanks to be even in the room. 2 8' tanks is out of the question. For now......lol

The life of a plywood tank is all based on how thick you apply the epoxy. I plan on doing a 1/4" pour method with my tank. It should last forever!! (Famous last words I know!)






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I was thinking you could use one of the 75 gallon tanks for your zoa garden or LPS display.

I was legitimately curious about the plywood tanks, you don't see too many tanks period that are used for over 10+ years, let alone plywood.

No matter what you decide, I'm excited to follow along!

Atomic081
06/01/2017, 11:42 AM
I have one big tank now. My next set-up (always thinking of "the next set-up!") will be 2 or 3.

There are so many beautiful options that will not go in one tank.

-A dedicated Anenome and Clown tank

-An angel and semi-aggressive tank with Coral

-An SPS/LPS tank with minimal fish

...PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Just curious how big your tank is now and what sizes you might do down the road? Thanks!!




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WLachnit
06/01/2017, 12:56 PM
Sounds like a great project. My experience with a foam rock wall was mixed. Over a 6y period, I did get some areas that started to crumble. I also think it contributed to my high phosphates over time and a lot detritus trapped between the foam and the wall. I just recently rebuilt mine and I did away with the foam rock wall. my $0.02.

anbosu
06/01/2017, 01:11 PM
Sounds like a great project. My experience with a foam rock wall was mixed. Over a 6y period, I did get some areas that started to crumble. I also think it contributed to my high phosphates over time and a lot detritus trapped between the foam and the wall. I just recently rebuilt mine and I did away with the foam rock wall. my $0.02.

I've seen concrete used - for permanence that seems like a better option to me.

WLachnit
06/01/2017, 01:19 PM
I've seen concrete used - for permanence that seems like a better option to me.
That's a good idea. And using a Portland type 3 cement, or hydraulic cement would minimize curing time and pH changes.

Ricardo18
06/01/2017, 01:26 PM
[QUOTE=Atomic081;25103065]Just curious how big your tank is now and what sizes you might do down the road? Thanks!!




600 gal now. Maybe 250/250 or so.....
1 tank is a showpiece , but with limited diversification.
2 tanks would not be as "showy" (cabinetry a little fussy, maybe unbalanced for the room)....but way more interesting. I would keep the 2 (or 3) tanks the same dimensions, so the cabinetry could be better balanced for the room

Atomic081
06/01/2017, 05:31 PM
I've seen concrete used - for permanence that seems like a better option to me.



I've seen the concrete used. This is definitely a option!!!


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d-man
06/04/2017, 12:14 PM
My tank is a plywood build

860g 145"x32"x43"

Currently 6 MarsAqua leds but will add 2 more at some point

Used BK 300ext skimmer ($550). Almost brand spanking new. It was a steal

Flow
2x sp6 fluvals for returns

2x rw20
4x wp60
2x gyre 250s
1 jebao cp55

I am same as you. Do it on the cheap. Been up and running for 18 months now and growing like crazy