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Hadla
06/08/2017, 12:08 PM
Different store that's near Baton Rouge lol

Hadla
06/08/2017, 12:08 PM
Top of him

Hadla
06/08/2017, 12:53 PM
Maybe male tern?

mechman_22
06/08/2017, 01:49 PM
man none of my local fish stores just get them you have to special order them :(

Hadla
06/08/2017, 02:01 PM
Yeah all I see back home are chiragras! This amazes me and they only want $25 for him

Hadla
06/08/2017, 03:33 PM
Ok maybe not a tern... I'm guessing chiragra cause that's always what they are!

Hadla
06/08/2017, 07:04 PM
Anyone? :)

nmotz
06/08/2017, 08:08 PM
This looks like a Gonodactylaceus Glabrous to me, orange meral spots, blue pleopods/uropods, but for sure in the genus Gonodactylaceus

Hadla
06/08/2017, 08:40 PM
Ooo interesting, thanks!

Gonodactylus
06/09/2017, 08:38 AM
I think nmotz nailed it.

Roy

Hadla
06/09/2017, 09:10 AM
Thanks dr Roy! But now I'm confused... the people in my fb mantis group are saying graphurus... wish I was able to go see it in person.

Gonodactylus
06/09/2017, 10:56 AM
It is quite difficult to tell G. graphurus and G. glabrous apart. Both species have orange meral spots, males have blue uropods and antennal scales, and both species are color polymorphic with several similar patterns and colors. The easiest way to tell them apart is to look for a median carinule on the 6th abdominal tergite. G. glabrous doesn't have one; graphurus does. (See Roy's List) Even in high resolution photographs this can be hard to see. I have attached my best photo of a G. graphurus and you can barely make out the carinule. In this female G. glabrous it is easier to see that the carinule is absent.

G. glabrous is common in Indonesia and often shows up in shipments of stomatopods coming into the US. G. graphurus is found in the low intertidal in northern Australia and is commonly sold in that country, but since shipments of gonodactylids from Australia are less common in the US, we don't see them very often. I wish we did. They are hardy, aggressive and beautifully colored.

Since I couldn't determine if there was a carinule on the animal you photographed and that it is clearly a male of one of the two species, I went with the probability that it was G. glabrous. (This color pattern is more common in G. glabrous males as well.) However, from the information available I can't rule out that it is G. graphurus. If members of your fb group think it is G. graphurus, I'm not going to contradict them.

Roy

Hadla
06/09/2017, 11:00 AM
Ok as long as it's either of those, I'm good! If I do get it, I'll post pics once I'm home in Sacramento :)