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I am planning my sump. Section 1 will be the drain and skimmer the question is should the return be next and the refugium last or should the refugium be next and the return last. If I put the refugium next the skimmer it can be fed from that section, if I put it on the end I would need to tee off of my drain line. Anyone see advantages to doing it one way or the other?
mcgyvr
06/27/2017, 09:00 AM
Flip a coin really IMO..
Flip a coin really IMO..
Probably right. I guess if I put the fuge next to the drain I would possibly eliminate a tee off the drain line and I could mount my reactors next to the pump since they will need a feed from it.
ca1ore
06/27/2017, 09:47 AM
I think giving the skimmer first access to protein-laden overflow water is best .... otherwise doesn't really matter much.
Simon, I totally agree. I also would think the water, post media reactor(s) should go into the return section, not the refugium.
FireReeferSteve
06/27/2017, 11:05 AM
Here is what I'm going to be building. I'm also making a algae reactor so I didn't need a section for a fuge.
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Here is what I'm going to be building. I'm also making a algae reactor so I didn't need a section for a fuge.
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Same length and height as mine but I am going 19" wide. Took my measurements over to the glass shop today to get a quote on 3/8" glass. Unfortunately they are closed all next week so they won't do anything until the week after. I am tempted to just buy something pre done but for $500+ I think I can do better. Where does your return pump go?
FireReeferSteve
06/27/2017, 12:44 PM
Same length and height as mine but I am going 19" wide. Took my measurements over to the glass shop today to get a quote on 3/8" glass. Unfortunately they are closed all next week so they won't do anything until the week after. I am tempted to just buy something pre done but for $500+ I think I can do better. Where does your return pump go?
I'm building mine out of acrylic and I'm running my pump external. My local acrylic shop was going out of business so I lucked out and got all my acrylic free. I'm going with blue, white, and clear acrylic. It's all 3/8" as well.
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I'm building mine out of acrylic and I'm running my pump external. My local acrylic shop was going out of business so I lucked out and got all my acrylic free. I'm going with blue, white, and clear acrylic. It's all 3/8" as well.
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There are good deals and there are REALLY good deals, you fit into the latter. I have worked with acrylic a little bit but not a tank and I don't have the tools to make it nice.
FireReeferSteve
06/27/2017, 01:45 PM
Ya it was luck that I found that lol. Here is the mock up of my algae reactor. I'm building the led strip to go in the center tube. Rapid led's is where I order the materials from. Also building a diy light for my bio cube to replace the power compacts. If that goes well I'll be redoing the lights above my 190 with a big diy light.
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RedStangGA
06/27/2017, 01:49 PM
The main advantage I see to putting the fuge last is that you can control how much flow it gets. I'm not sure how much flow you were planning through your sump but if it's massive then fuge last might be a good idea.
Ya it was luck that I found that lol. Here is the mock up of my algae reactor. I'm building the led strip to go in the center tube. Rapid led's is where I order the materials from. Also building a diy light for my bio cube to replace the power compacts. If that goes well I'll be redoing the lights above my 190 with a big diy light.
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I made my own led light for my last tank which was about 110g. It had 70+ leds all on stars that I had to solder, and of course each group had a pot so there were a lot of wires. Not this time. I bought the Reef Breeder R90 which has 6 zones and is all Cree xp expect for the violets, reds and greens as I recall. The nice thing is you can order individual leds from them and make up your own lighting profiles and it is wifi. I am going to do this as soon as I can get me new set-up running which is now pushed back another couple of weeks. I could easily make the led light for 1/2 the cost but it would not look as nice and no wifi. I have thought about making one for my refugium, but I sure that idea will soon pass.
Maggie321
06/27/2017, 04:07 PM
Following for light updates!
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FireReeferSteve
06/27/2017, 04:57 PM
I made my own led light for my last tank which was about 110g. It had 70+ leds all on stars that I had to solder, and of course each group had a pot so there were a lot of wires. Not this time. I bought the Reef Breeder R90 which has 6 zones and is all Cree xp expect for the violets, reds and greens as I recall. The nice thing is you can order individual leds from them and make up your own lighting profiles and it is wifi. I am going to do this as soon as I can get me new set-up running which is now pushed back another couple of weeks. I could easily make the led light for 1/2 the cost but it would not look as nice and no wifi. I have thought about making one for my refugium, but I sure that idea will soon pass.
Actually it can all be wifi and controller from your phone with a video feed using the blue fish controller from rapid led. Here is the YouTube link to the video of it in action. Still 2/3 the cost and can be made to look great with a splash guard to cover the wires.
https://youtu.be/YL3icHe5DGQ
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Not for me. Too much soldering for the cost difference. If I spend all me time soldering who is going to cut the grass??
FireReeferSteve
06/27/2017, 05:43 PM
Hahahahaha if you live close enough I will..... I own a lawn maintenance business lmao.
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FireReeferSteve
07/01/2017, 02:06 PM
Found the heatsink for my 190 gallon 70"x10"2" fins. This thing is A Beast! How the bio cube and reactor lights work out is if the 190 gallon light will be built. Could not pass this up, price was too god. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170701/1aed4dfd78c34be8138acd386a373837.jpg
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Steve, looks like a lot of leds. What are doing about fans? They rarely run if on a thermostat unless you crank up all the lights in which case it will look the the Griswold's house in the Christmas Vacation movie.
[Todd and Margo Chester, the Griswold's yuppie neighbors, appear]
Todd: Hey Griswold. Where do you think you're gonna put a tree that big?
Clark: Bend over and I'll show you.
Todd: You've got a lot of nerve talking to me like that Griswold.
Clark: I wasn't talking to you.
Drblakjak55
07/01/2017, 04:17 PM
Actually it can all be wifi and controller from your phone with a video feed using the blue fish controller from rapid led. Here is the YouTube link to the video of it in action. Still 2/3 the cost and can be made to look great with a splash guard to cover the wires.
https://youtu.be/YL3icHe5DGQ
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Do you really have to do thirty steps to actually change the light in that app? Btw nice control
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FireReeferSteve
07/01/2017, 04:37 PM
Do you really have to do thirty steps to actually change the light in that app? Btw nice control
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I think he was going though all the tabs to show what it does.
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Jon0807
07/02/2017, 01:48 AM
The main advantage I see to putting the fuge last is that you can control how much flow it gets. I'm not sure how much flow you were planning through your sump but if it's massive then fuge last might be a good idea.
I'm currently building a 40b sump with this in mind. I like the idea of controlling the flow through the fuge and even shutting it off if need be. I've drilled holes on top of the fuge baffle which is not shown in this pic
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The glass for my sump is sitting in the garage so assembling it is my task for today, in between getting my tank up and on the stand that I built. The sump is 44 x 19 x 16 and it would have been a lot cheaper to buy a 40b but I wanted to maximize space in my cabinet. It will be rimless and I am going to raise the bottom panel a little so I don't need a mat under it.
Don't sumps look nice when they are new!
EvenFurther
07/02/2017, 07:58 AM
Tee off the return pump also allows the baffle height to be set much higher, increasing fuge water volume.
Jon0807
07/02/2017, 08:02 AM
The glass for my sump is sitting in the garage so assembling it is my task for today, in between getting my tank up and on the stand that I built. The sump is 44 x 19 x 16 and it would have been a lot cheaper to buy a 40b but I wanted to maximize space in my cabinet. It will be rimless and I am going to raise the bottom panel a little so I don't need a mat under it.
Don't sumps look nice when they are new!
With my constant changing of my mind I ended up with a stand smaller than I originally wanted. Long story short, I planned for a 75g display, settled for adding this sump to my current 36 bow front, and now ending up with a 40b display and a 40b sump lol. Luckily I had all the wood already from years ago.
I painted the back, bottom and sides of the sump black. It sure does look pretty! I'm hoping it stays like that for a little while :beer:
Jon0807
07/02/2017, 08:05 AM
Tee off the return pump also allows the baffle height to be set much higher, increasing fuge water volume.
This too! I wanted as large as a fuge as possible. The baffle is about 11" high where I drilled the holes and the baffle itself is 12. If I had it in the middle, it would've only been 8" or so
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