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gcarroll
07/10/2017, 04:36 PM
It has been a long time coming but the time is here. Finally I have my chance to build my next tank. I has been 3.5 years since I tore down my 225g reef when we sold our home. With the recent purchase of a new home, the first priority has been to set up my new tank. I learned so much during the 10 years of my last tank and can't wait to apply that knowledge.
RIP to my 225g reef !
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Andrew D
07/10/2017, 06:00 PM
Welcome back! You had some very nice mature colonies in your 225, I can't wait to see how your 260 takes shape.

gcarroll
07/10/2017, 06:58 PM
So the termite tent came off 7-7-17 . And here is the room of the tank wall complete with the granny curtains.
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Demo began 7-8-17 with scraping the old school popcorn off of the ceilings.
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And on 7-9-17 demo began on the floorshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170710/6527b94e0339e9b65c889d36c7a36f93.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170710/7d6ca5a1c3d6365ea17a3a0b7ee46c11.jpg

gcarroll
07/10/2017, 07:14 PM
The tank I will be setting up will be a 260g AGE with PVC bottom and powder coated stainless steel bracing on top and bottom. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170710/de99eb116067acb9a4cc675bd25315ec.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170710/8e47b402b5b87c7bd019292196db5701.jpg

gcarroll
07/10/2017, 07:15 PM
Welcome back! You had some very nice mature colonies in your 225, I can't wait to see how your 260 takes shape.



It has been a long time coming. Honestly too long! I've learned so much over the years and can't wait to apply it to this aquarium.

biecacka
07/12/2017, 06:28 PM
Greg, fish room or everything under the tank?

Corey

cFloor
07/12/2017, 06:45 PM
Your 225 was a thing of beauty, Im looking forward to following along with this new tank.

FireReeferSteve
07/13/2017, 06:15 AM
Following good luck with build!!


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JonCubb
07/15/2017, 11:03 AM
Following along, looking forward to seeing it done!

gcarroll
07/15/2017, 07:08 PM
It's coming along slowly. Electrical wiring and lighting first then need to convert from 100a panel to 200a. Flooring also arrives in a week.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170716/86f61d0a448e13fa3b14b6590366a62f.jpg

gcarroll
07/15/2017, 07:10 PM
Greg, fish room or everything under the tank?

Corey


Corey, unfortunately everything is going under the tank. Wish I could've found another way, but it is what it is.

Wiskey
07/15/2017, 08:00 PM
This is fantastic! I remember being stunned by your tank many years ago when I lived out in AZ! Great to have you back!

What are your lighting plans? Your off to a fantastic start!

Whiskey

biecacka
07/15/2017, 09:09 PM
Greg, I understand. Most of my equipment is under my tank or behind it. I dream of a fish room one day.

Corey

gcarroll
07/15/2017, 10:30 PM
This is fantastic! I remember being stunned by your tank many years ago when I lived out in AZ! Great to have you back!

What are your lighting plans? Your off to a fantastic start!

WhiskeyThat is actually the hardest thing for me to decide. What lighting will I use for the next 2 years? Honestly that is about the longest I ever went without changing on the old system.

Wiskey
07/15/2017, 10:40 PM
That is actually the hardest thing for me to decide. What lighting will I use for the next 2 years? Honestly that is about the longest I ever went without changing on the old system.

Haha! Now that is truth right there!

I can tell you that if you are going with LED's make sure to get a new, high quality fixture. I tried to make my own using just blues and whites to supplement my T5's and it made for a bad experience. The people that are most successful seem to use the puck style fixtures that have many shades of blue, many shades of white, red, green, etc, all close together. And they use lots of the fixtures to avoid shading.

I use T5's on my display and love them, but my tank is a 75 these days, only 18" wide. If I were to setup a 120, or a 180, I would probably go MH with T5 just because that would be allot of T5 bulbs to replace every 8 months if I had only T5. I just love the way that corals grow and look under MH/T5.

Whiskey

gcarroll
07/16/2017, 12:53 AM
I want the look to be clean! That is the main priority in the end. I will probably start off with a 10 bulb ATI Powermodule. My friend has one lying around that he is not using. I've always wanted to try T5 even though I'm not really fond of the look. I certainly can't argue with the results!

I'll probably use them until it's time to change the bulbs then I'll remember why I never wanted T5. Other options are a Giesemann Spectra, ATI Powermodule Hybrid, GHL Mitras, Giesemann Verve, and of course the Ecotech Radion G4 Pro.

Wiskey
07/16/2017, 01:57 AM
If you want to go really old school I know a LFS that has a 3 bulb 250W HQI with PC's marked down to about $100! HAHA. I might have scooped it up, but my wife gets migraines so I need to make sure my lights are in a canopy so you can't look directly into them.

I really like T5's I was an early adopter, and I've been using a Tek T5 Retro over many FW and SW tanks over the years. I do miss the glitter lines, but I love the color I get with T5's. Just an FYI, ATI and Guismann bulbs put out double the par that bulbs like Coralife do. I've been shocked by some of these results.

I see that you live in Orange, I'm in Fallbrook now, if you want some frags or want to borrow my PAR meter let me know! I have some high end stuff and love to trade and have my corals in someone else's tank just in case. Plus it's good for the hobby!

You can see a couple pics of my tank here:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2644015

Whiskey

biecacka
07/16/2017, 04:56 PM
Greg, I too like the ati hybrid! But for now I am sticking with my 400 watt radium and I love it. :)
I dont have quite the heat here in Ohio that you have out west though.
In your list of potential options, I dont see the reefbreeders LED's, any particular reason. Many ppl seem to like them and the fact the diodes are spread out is a nice feature.

Corey

gcarroll
07/17/2017, 08:53 AM
If you want to go really old school I know a LFS that has a 3 bulb 250W HQI with PC's marked down to about $100! HAHA. I might have scooped it up, but my wife gets migraines so I need to make sure my lights are in a canopy so you can't look directly into them.

I really like T5's I was an early adopter, and I've been using a Tek T5 Retro over many FW and SW tanks over the years. I do miss the glitter lines, but I love the color I get with T5's. Just an FYI, ATI and Guismann bulbs put out double the par that bulbs like Coralife do. I've been shocked by some of these results.

I see that you live in Orange, I'm in Fallbrook now, if you want some frags or want to borrow my PAR meter let me know! I have some high end stuff and love to trade and have my corals in someone else's tank just in case. Plus it's good for the hobby!

You can see a couple pics of my tank here:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2644015

Whiskey

Thanks Whiskey, I'll be sure to look you up when I'm ready!

gcarroll
07/17/2017, 01:16 PM
Greg, I too like the ati hybrid! But for now I am sticking with my 400 watt radium and I love it. :)
I dont have quite the heat here in Ohio that you have out west though.
In your list of potential options, I dont see the reefbreeders LED's, any particular reason. Many ppl seem to like them and the fact the diodes are spread out is a nice feature.

Corey
The Geisemann Spectra is what I'm looking at for MH. I prefer the 250w Radion over the 400w version. I've used both and just prefer the way the corals responded and PAR is pretty close on them. I'm pretty burned out on MH though and just wanted to try something new.

When I lived in Corona, I ran 3 - 400w MH without a chiller so I don't think I will have much issue with heat as it is much cooler in the OC.

I did not consider Reef Breeders as I prefer to stick with larger established companies. Reef Breeders has a lot of followers but i't really am not a fan. I prefer LEDs that have a path to upgrade and GHL and Ecotech have shown that their lights have had this ability.

gcarroll
07/17/2017, 01:21 PM
Greg, I too like the ati hybrid! But for now I am sticking with my 400 watt radium and I love it. :)
I dont have quite the heat here in Ohio that you have out west though.
In your list of potential options, I dont see the reefbreeders LED's, any particular reason. Many ppl seem to like them and the fact the diodes are spread out is a nice feature.

Corey
The Geisemann Spectra is what I'm looking at for MH. I prefer the 250w Radion over the 400w version. I've used both and just prefer the way the corals responded and PAR is pretty close on them. I'm pretty burned out on MH though and just wanted to try something new.

When I lived in Corona, I ran 3 - 400w MH without a chiller so I don't think I will have much issue with heat as it is much cooler in the OC.

I did not consider Reef Breeders as I prefer to stick with larger established companies. Reef Breeders has a lot of followers but i't really am not a fan. I prefer LEDs that have a path to upgrade and GHL and Ecotech have shown that their lights have had this ability.

biecacka
07/17/2017, 01:34 PM
I understand wanting to try new things. I did hat awhile back with rapidled kits and it was okay. For me, I like the simplicity of halide. But that doesn't mean I don't like the sleek look of some other units out there. I really like the orpheks myself. But I also like The GHL as well. I like the more spread out pucks over the radion, and the added controllability (if I even used it) but you can't argue with the success of the radion and the pre programmed light schedules to take the guess work out of which colors need to be where.
Maybe one day I'll come back over to led side.
Can't wait to see your progress on this tank!

Corey

ReefCowboy
07/17/2017, 08:16 PM
Gregg, looking really promissing! Cant wait to finally see pics of the tank coming along!

gcarroll
07/18/2017, 09:34 AM
Went by the house today. Wiring for the aquarium outlets has been completed. Although it seems like it's going slow, realize that Theo whole house is being remodeled, not just this room. I'm shocked at how fast the remodel is coming along!
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gcarroll
07/18/2017, 07:52 PM
Got great news from the general contractor today. Electrical panel will be done Saturday. I was thinking we were still at least 2-3 weeks out for that.

five.five-six
07/19/2017, 10:15 AM
Well crap, I just move out to the I.E. and you move to orange..... are you avoiding me?

Congrats on the new home, it looks beautiful. :)

DIESEL1
07/19/2017, 12:08 PM
Hey Greg who did your stand

dodgerblew
07/19/2017, 12:41 PM
Congratulations Greg on the house and the newborn (tank of course)! Following along.

gcarroll
07/19/2017, 02:18 PM
Hey Greg who did your standIvan in our club made the stand, on RC his ID is: fixmgood

gcarroll
07/19/2017, 02:20 PM
Congratulations Greg on the house and the newborn (tank of course)! Following along.
Well crap, I just move out to the I.E. and you move to orange..... are you avoiding me?

Congrats on the new home, it looks beautiful. :)
Thanks, Unfortunately, the money is running out quickly. Not going to be exactly what we wanted but we will make do!

solitude127
07/19/2017, 04:04 PM
Very nice Greg. What other equipment will you be running? ie. pumps, skimmers, powerhead, reactors?

At least your tank will be up before Cody's. :D

DIESEL1
07/19/2017, 05:02 PM
Ivan in our club made the stand, on RC his ID is: fixmgood

Thanks for the info

Rakie
07/20/2017, 12:24 AM
Man, AGE builds really sleek tanks.

five.five-six
07/20/2017, 08:46 AM
Thanks, Unfortunately, the money is running out quickly. Not going to be exactly what we wanted but we will make do!
That's the way it goes. I build custom homes... well I do the structured cableing and or electrical and I have noticed over the decades that remodel projects generaly run 30% over time and over projected budget. I have only seen a few exceptions to that rule of thumb.

gcarroll
07/20/2017, 09:53 AM
Very nice Greg. What other equipment will you be running? ie. pumps, skimmers, powerhead, reactors?

At least your tank will be up before Cody's. :D
So far Mike, this is what is planned.
return pump - Abyzz A200 plumbed to Seaswirl
skimmer - Vertex Alpha 300
sump - Vertex Supra
circulation pumps - 2 Tunze stream 3's and 2 Tunze 6095s
chiller/heater/UV sterilizer - Teco
calcium reactor - Vertex
controller - Apex Gold (unless I get a new Apex)
lights - undecided

solitude127
07/20/2017, 11:06 AM
Nice list you have there. :D. Which vertex CaRx are you going to go with?

BeanMachine
07/20/2017, 02:02 PM
Very nice Greg. What other equipment will you be running? ie. pumps, skimmers, powerhead, reactors?

At least your tank will be up before Cody's. :D

Hahaha quick stalking me hahahaha buuuuuut we shaaaaaaaallll see. Cleaning out the garage this weekend. Then I'll have room to scape the rocks and install the RODI and Containers. Then its on.

Its perfect timing really, and Greg lives practically across the street from me so I am sure we will supply each other with a steady supply of frags hehe its going to be great! :P

BeanMachine
07/20/2017, 02:03 PM
Hey Greg, does that Teco model have heat and UV? Hmmmmm

gcarroll
07/20/2017, 02:27 PM
Nice list you have there. :D. Which vertex CaRx are you going to go with?From what I have been told about it, I'm not sure it has a model number.:)

gcarroll
07/20/2017, 02:32 PM
Hey Greg, does that Teco model have heat and UV? HmmmmmYes, I have the older TR20 model. They offer the heater in the new model but I don't think they offer the UV.

gcarroll
07/20/2017, 09:51 PM
That's the way it goes. I build custom homes... well I do the structured cableing and or electrical and I have noticed over the decades that remodel projects generaly run 30% over time and over projected budget. I have only seen a few exceptions to that rule of thumb.

Not having those issues here. Our contractor runs way faster thank expected.

Went by the house today. On Tuesday the contractor told me that he was going to have the electrical panel upgraded on Saturday. But I guess today is Saturday!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170721/cdb12982266788dd042e9cda6ed1c857.jpg

FireReeferSteve
07/21/2017, 06:04 PM
So you have no power in the house right now?


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gcarroll
07/21/2017, 11:23 PM
So you have no power in the house right now?


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When I took the picture no. But by morning today...
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ReefCowboy
07/22/2017, 12:49 PM
Nice gregg! Lets get to that tank!! Cmon

gcarroll
07/22/2017, 02:53 PM
Nice gregg! Lets get to that tank!! Cmon

We are getting there. Tile delivered last night so they were starting on flooring today.

gcarroll
07/27/2017, 01:58 PM
Work has slowed in the family room as the current focus is the bathrooms, windows, then flooring. All electrical wiring has been completed and walls patched and skim coated.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170727/3b4014bbbccfb133afa609744111c219.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170727/b919be0c1b21defd0614c131f31a2a57.jpg

Oldude
08/05/2017, 09:58 PM
subscribed

Jdnels
08/09/2017, 10:33 PM
Hard wire Network to Tank
Following.....

gcarroll
08/10/2017, 11:16 PM
Hard wire Network to Tank
Following.....

Where were you when wiring was going in? Walls are finished now. Not sure I will be doing any more wiring.

gcarroll
08/10/2017, 11:18 PM
Finishing work going on now. The expect to be done in two weeks. Tile is going in now and windows on Saturday.
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BeanMachine
08/14/2017, 04:28 PM
Looking good. I like the tile choice. Chippin away... I need to get going so you don't beat me to it.

DrBoxedWine
08/17/2017, 09:29 PM
Following!

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Drae
08/19/2017, 09:47 AM
Nice tank. Always liked A.G.E. Man I have the itch so bad!! Haha it's been a few years myself. Congrats on the new tank.

carlos danger
08/21/2017, 12:31 PM
Very interested to see how this ends up! Love the choice from tank to equipment. All high end.

gcarroll
08/31/2017, 08:14 PM
Room is complete! Now to just find some strong guys to move the tank in.

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slief
09/02/2017, 08:18 AM
Room is complete! Now to just find some strong guys to move the tank in.

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Wow!! That came out really nice!! I love the flooring! Can't wait to see the tank in there!

deaclauderdale
09/02/2017, 11:55 AM
Room is complete! Now to just find some strong guys to move the tank in.

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Greg when do you need help moving the tank?


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gcarroll
09/02/2017, 12:25 PM
Greg when do you need help moving the tank?


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Hoping to get it moved in next weekend. Should be quick, storage unit is only about a mile away and with the PVC bottom, it's not incredibly heavy.

deaclauderdale
09/02/2017, 12:42 PM
I'm available from 8-10am next Saturday. I'm not sure if that fits your timeline but if it does I'll lend some muscle to getting your tank moved.


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gcarroll
09/02/2017, 02:33 PM
I'm available from 8-10am next Saturday. I'm not sure if that fits your timeline but if it does I'll lend some muscle to getting your tank moved.


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Thanks for the offer. I'll let you know when I check with the other guys.

gcarroll
09/03/2017, 08:47 AM
Wow!! That came out really nice!! I love the flooring! Can't wait to see the tank in there!

Thanks Scott. Or contractor was awesome! Less than two months for the entire remodel (including complete upgrade of the electrical) which replaced everything except the kitchen.

gcarroll
09/10/2017, 05:57 PM
Moving day!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170910/c9dcebeba777bdbb496f7f4cf565ada1.jpg

gcarroll
09/10/2017, 06:48 PM
The tank has found its way home! Special thanks to all the SCMAS members who helped make it happen. Scott S, Phil H, the Ivan W, Marc T, Ben C, and Rider S, you guys are the best!

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MrsReefK
09/10/2017, 06:51 PM
Yay! Congrats on getting the tank home. Your remodel turned out amazing.


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gcarroll
09/11/2017, 10:28 AM
Yay! Congrats on getting the tank home. Your remodel turned out amazing.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThanks! Just waiting on the Sump. Should arrive next month.

MrsReefK
09/11/2017, 10:29 AM
Thanks! Just waiting on the Sump. Should arrive next month.



Yay! Christmas in October!


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Rakie
09/11/2017, 11:03 AM
Thanks! Just waiting on the Sump. Should arrive next month.

3 years without a reef is some good patience. That last month right here would kill me though

gcarroll
09/11/2017, 11:11 AM
3 years without a reef is some good patience. That last month right here would kill me though



Tim, I'm right there with you. If I didn't have so many other projects it would be a major problem for me.

The Bean
09/14/2017, 03:27 PM
Looking GREAT Greg....what is the size of the tank itself in inches please....proportions are really nice! looking forward to the scape! cheers Miles

dodgerblew
09/14/2017, 03:58 PM
Congrats Greg. Everything looks great

BeanMachine
09/14/2017, 04:33 PM
Thanks! Just waiting on the Sump. Should arrive next month.

Thanks for the intel. I still have time! :wavehand:

brainchild24
09/15/2017, 07:56 PM
Looking great so far, following along.

BKREEFBABY
09/15/2017, 08:09 PM
Can't wait to see that baby full of corals

Rakie
09/16/2017, 12:27 PM
give us a review on those stream 3's when you've got 'em running for a bit.

gcarroll
09/17/2017, 12:31 AM
Looking GREAT Greg....what is the size of the tank itself in inches please....proportions are really nice! looking forward to the scape! cheers Miles

Miles, the tank is 62" x 36" x 28"

The Bean
09/17/2017, 11:34 AM
Miles, the tank is 62" x 36" x 28"
Thanks:thumbsup:
Seriously thinking of making my next build to that...was thinking 4'x'4 x 28" but reckon the proportions on that look spot on.....following, great build!

naimasreef
09/26/2017, 09:05 PM
loving it . . . looking forward to the sump review.

gcarroll
10/03/2017, 07:37 PM
Although I did not expect update this thread until later this month, I needed to ask.... Does anybody want to buy a brand new Apex Classic? I wonít be needing it anymore!

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BeanMachine
10/04/2017, 04:33 PM
Although I did not expect update this thread until later this month, I needed to ask.... Does anybody want to buy a brand new Apex Classic? I wonít be needing it anymore!

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No but I want those glasses.

gcarroll
10/05/2017, 02:00 PM
No but I want those glasses.[emoji13]

ReefCowboy
10/08/2017, 12:16 PM
Awesome Gregg! Lets chat this week! Have been away.
Awesome you got the new Apex!

sirreal63
10/10/2017, 04:24 PM
Miles, the tank is 62" x 36" x 28"

I love those dimensions! Seriously jealous here, took my tank down and I donít think I will set it back up. I want to go bigger.

Greg, as always excellent equipment selection with your incredible knowledge and experience will make this a build and tank I will gladly follow. I see the makings of another TOTM in a few years.

ca1ore
10/10/2017, 04:34 PM
AGE really make nice tanks. I do wonder how they satisfactorily bond the glass sides to that PVC bottom though.

gcarroll
10/10/2017, 05:22 PM
I love those dimensions! Seriously jealous here, took my tank down and I donít think I will set it back up. I want to go bigger.



Greg, as always excellent equipment selection with your incredible knowledge and experience will make this a build and tank I will gladly follow. I see the makings of another TOTM in a few years.Thanks bud, that is always the goal. I learned a lot with the last tank and canít wait to simplify and apply that knowledge. I just wonít settle for mediocre!

AGE really make nice tanks. I do wonder how they satisfactorily bond the glass sides to that PVC bottom though.I am told that AGE and Planet Aquariums are the only ones who know how to do this properly and they are not sharing the process with anyone else.