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Horace
07/22/2017, 10:18 AM
I am back in the hobby after about 6 years away. I tore down for what I thought was a short move. 5 moves later I have built a brand new home and ready to rock! (I think I am finally staying put for a while).

My first tank ever (of any kind) was a mixed SPS tank. As I noted in my ReefCentral Reefer Of The Month (ROTM) thread (http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2644554), my success is directly attrribuable to the expertise found here!

Here is my first tank (75g All-Glass reefready with 30g in-stand sump, 2x 400w XM20k + 1x110w VHO Super Actinic, DIY Deltec Clone skimmer, Zeovit reactor, carbon/gfo reactors, Mag 9.5 return, in sump fuge/macro)
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170829/d9537ceaf9c8990738575a5985be3f9d.jpg

fabulousfavia
07/22/2017, 10:28 AM
Nice. Can't wait to see what the future holds for this tank build. I just finished a 55g tank build (not posted on RC yet)


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Horace
07/22/2017, 10:29 AM
Now that you have an idea of what I I did before, I want this new tank to be every bit as good and better!

This new tank is a 180g Rimless (I hate working around braces), and 3- Sided Starfire. The tank was built by ConceptAquariums.ca in Calgary. They did a pretty good job. The first tank arrived with a crack so it had to be replaced (which is a long story), but in the end the new tank they sent was pretty nice. I think it could have been done a bit better, but in the end, I think its probably above Glass-Cages quality, which was my intent. It also was a very reasonable cost given the exchange rate between the US and Canada right now.

Overall, I am phsyced and cant wait to get this build REALLY going!

Here are some pics to start!

Tank Schematic:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jzhgn19O7ou0UVh9gBMVqEwgDncHQEuw9Dxf0F0c8KZRoiusAwCGhM7FTi4R7TurQvUTFv8Kz7H7f-i4sxTCk69Y8sz0W2T-IFjxbkQQUDY8hihNhhxXcsryNOAF48B724_CmOACDjlrwG_3Xo6fyxUNH09wQzIHJRqQnWrd_eyA8F78qx8UC5Q_QYmp0XhJuafx pNUyV6JcwFuFvAuawV8k4V53ReocTzZqbR2qRlzsF5vFQ5Eh13NXTRAkIXRXMfazWNMOBYwrGMd2soXHok1veLh-b4Xz7F7IMcD2D2lYnFbgEp-Te9l9F68q8ANNXo63PtEdCh2TuYEeA9bJ_ZBomvAo_rEAZeDbNe6FZGEMcohDFZzFGCyQUqFFI-hFhgwStj2kTywW48HgJ7GP4W4ADr2WZkliMmVWYJPALTbh8kEAcYaeCX51etd6feBdvzJKMYkrSueWJjOrppE_nzKIIZVE0UOCNS zbor3TRUAx96Ez5T5wQRbYddy43pviMqcUU9F01CaHy6EpeIWrv7n8ouQpR5FPm4kMooms_i-HeGafANUzQwic0vazXruQzMtXU1chwLUYy5qoRFbCkF6nMUPMZeR8epFQRD-lx9cSxDtjdOx6wSZ=w1024-h496-no

Tank in place: (It seems it has taken FOREVER to get to this point!!!!!!)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iOJ3N1fzhkw91DKOFcdLz5qqckgJ-cO-rt5Fzv1wRKG0dnS72nCb1yfSwYeEdhQIT400Blx_REe_udtY0BwudNyA9ag2j4Q9AetyKuwvqKkHPaYNTzZ1QLEMu8EyuY87q9QS CPw9derHfAuz2KnfpMAQKBI4Gt7vj-VoIxH03U6de2VVuYUfjx9ajQcJYQbjAmELIXGSqh-vaYwSQBjY1Xci-bTvvFs1Bzb53MkG0VRbevjafhxUTar_PUss1IAkOkN972kKtm0I35136WWpwcNgl0vPOpYT5ICAZ2mPoS4b_vY8sCvgnvf0J83UT J1d4buj8bjzQjToE0Yhm1enZeUwAQFtvp9INXmu4hvdGmqepfKPtJOYqM2c7oX9WnM5nUAqP52dhep7zui6JfbOe73LZfYUIjBIy mlqe5fxhHrJowiC8OdxOBn5U0LmtX-DuHXC5lrwErAIxp1r3zWas0-jaroyXE9y1XU6RJQ2fsqNjAIdeVROvgwwIXx5jIW8enCrgotiRZ2l9EZMlnQ-jJ1KDewDo0Y3F9yX-cyk5GmneUjmhA0qglIAYBgaqgq9PEqS0V-be798gvkJ1MFsvBkeVLedpSza-lCHosv2n6hc9f6q_ZKmMde=w1267-h950-no

Horace
07/22/2017, 10:34 AM
For this build, my plan is to put the sump in the basement. The main reason is i want/need this to be virtually silent. My last tank was amazingly loud, and that is something I want to avoid this go around.

Here is the 60g Sump (also built by ConceptAquariums)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2rNpa5bhYcIbhAts0MxlcI5oTubrwo7Y7PzXJA-1E1RGTzbFdQlWZoJ8e-jzNCwxn0N_buCjZsDRC0uNXKdpc0Fl_WkJi5q21ViSyoZXOg-rkl4eASWhpsHnvF9tiBT7Tex0-Tzj4T1HN9fKYW0XtV0kGqDxZF-SCOZbkMqlJyiz_F3RM7ewKBHufmJ-r_kvvyN4UFzKQPfrTn4AE09VN9I9DNWHmbPNzOwQhLIsl0az7vUva4Td-cT4jkjSZ-5VbAVdeZ4qENbjxPeaSA3da5N9x5-5YS0Z1mjYDp_FjG_QlcqXc7WNGkwU6cLd4gkguVN8njXoqg0H_VxAbAkG-nywXr7orTyTZrZ6MPf3ZocPyHfRLsSgMKAMYrM5786n51yiMrQMlkD6Zlfoz29nsdp7AV8vg89KGSOsDzmBP9qP2E_VcsDTbpiE7 4c3CNuU5xyewHUrzEwZk88Ju8nPe6L5-bwl00yIlEVv03TuprABmkBYQp8GdzSvIjrUCEEAQR6q1ZtgVFf2fjaNmbuc6Pm4jA3jcbmM2kfLnVgiVxCU9u18EmDYccj586au3 M_L5MKZsZyvKNOax2a-9Zhf-cUdQJOtD21bGgDy5Gg-0vtpcilMxQ999Ivq=w706-h950-no

Horace
07/22/2017, 10:41 AM
Here is my light fixture. This was one of my best DIY projects ever :). This is a 6ft long Makers LED fixture, that currently has 6x Lumia 5.2 LED clusters. Each LED has 5 channels, and individually dimmable, and controlled via the bluefish mini (wifi).

At this point I dont know if this will be enough on its own, and I anticipate potentially adding some T5 tubes later for better light spread, but coming back to the hobby I really wanted to give LEDs a shot. These seemed like a great choice and come highly recommended if you are into DIY :).

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kVTGPfpgd-tnyyUPuS9d2oLV6PJOGNJ0u867GLxu9wlZz0x7uR7wZjFccpLUG19EVXYpErrS3NhKMu7aHPRE0vhzmnXALrC2JgP3hiaSW0wo8Y RBOmp6d7jcU-d4oIISKKqTwpNlJkIcOGtYule0rgABCfjC855tRXCUIBve56D60J8pdaScwZH6wddWlRSTa-ZF8yEuaDwcDspIStvjYs_6nL7l5E-OsB0mgdnwBOlY8i5M8gqWUHJ2HEzeZ76yfY4xzertqp8ymv01dLD2yV4E3m6WTSsESvknQw7MULKEAQ8QrVR-3q6nISqULbdLWJULYcqeVXXujd7Nucnc1xMwHpCc1HNujP107O6HyfphBUBWcxsEjc_aHZbMRJ4bn2vN39nrzHvfWwEARPRWZBHc MzBFusdPqZekp0lR1iPNIYz06F4WzufQca0jJyNGq5e2OSZGlYo3Pk5-YN88nuo1_p-sErifH2aMo8T9ja3VeiBMVzMUVCmwBAkg6ZmwLz6FByoycBANQQ0z1swpE_wxZtiYBvYYcn1N1z1gwm-BgqRVCFXCBFng-gPmbW9k9u-LeljD-nJka8Qq68BnREWpuoXXQzZw5rRKvE4ZTBsPzz3Z1d1jbSrX=w1280-h950-no

Here is what each LED cluster looks like:

http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2200/b4d7d/products/249/images/995/lowres_LED_nov25_015__43522.1385941842.1280.1280.jpg?c=2

Horace
07/22/2017, 10:47 AM
Here is a bunch of other goodies:

Vertex Skimmer
Dual chamber Calcium Reactor
Rollermat - (This thing looked really cool and i always hated changing socks)
Reefflakes
Marco Rocks (My reef will start with mostly Marco Rocks. I had a hell of a time with pests in my last tank like aptasia, majonos etc that I would prefer not deal with this go around)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/UGROX-2KNBrp7I8npplak_pt9dQK5tjQXRaWeJ5B9AL7Rhr3Xx8ipJGOGNP1p28JY12bySsrsCE52GpZTzMNMWa4m81sxewbLFbgJlBSdf 0epHBsoTOfsQW0tORzQgo0PFa0IGyljvw7wW6_FMJ0L9P2romjt-sqiiD_ruHimk0xFIDDqIoP_GZPbY9ch_fGQcWCAXz_IfTjT4X80NAKSzYzpJDMmuz07Sj6Sz8qA-3T2iXm6msu_1ilVbACcMaDv0vScgGahmNmdUvJeZmYPZg0xYkXHao9V5LhiUHPcUtCiQmZSfZ3xXoAEGr1ptHi4rkYZ24szkmf4E jCZTf4Xnuj7D4b7kXpAXERN8TgKQJ3WAVLFrI1zGgVBF__oSUrsf831CgTN5MNks0y2PmJT1DW9Bwiqdkg-bhvY2T6s80_JSN1y9XCSPxWNee48yW9U8PmcVbOVRHiGB7CUYGywCrz2V85F3oRZnfO4tB3omZgajsa12ONrrSXTrgBVYAiOBpHQ BUheVPBYoMmqtq3IwnEq4nHsF_Rrxa8RkoIfjoH6awWSdDIvoAK5XrjWrg3SY-cnjYP7vTOxC0gk4Va0W5_THysSarw5CR-I_RW2ZR-vpRh4r5HL-m5=w1280-h950-no

DIY Dual Stage Regulator - If you have a single stage, I suggest looking into the reasons to go dual stage!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4Rk-gk_2qGLznNYdnYKch765dnykpV_XsEvmmyCO6Vv2F3HPj0Rp7UomugiXMjchykgnSAlVnp7KMUUrCRJO2aBLipGoG9sDbn8omN_Q 8nUkxiS-tjI4xgMA2q5jtTB4isJ6aOfSSrADVwkpjxjpjKA_muEX8yfSQB-apMBt38C5CDcbAebPS10XsYFBOEYFu2LL7zqwwb5o6SnIzdv6VnW2E9JbskVNk1LTfknhjTEOQX1EeP7a9guudMcPQ-Xg9GIDzySti047KpxbSouqEcCsEgIrrYyvxPC3EcIpg4AGoTMlRrr0vJ5ZfITxthh8LvOFxGfoGp_L69jE-kGTwEiC-BYspUbmAOBF7JpSURM36F5_wepcGxh8nYmcj8dP45KgvlLnKO7qD4mFAVjvbWZCTeVqnpCTeoqc5LQBtNSyRYjgdP1m1iSTL9ifK gC8pGqlTGzU9A9XeZsPFd70NivA5BpVm1cESwl43ztG0aQqOX726c-WjinADIdQqAHlWEEsVIlj9fH07si3-2nFAcNfo48da2TSLUVzg3SJErb_f_XRxQJG6LjEOKd2xfTij1wBUC8E3AqDQ2FGmmDoJ47AjIgAkXkG1JW3GL58sMMGcGBMDIhtX V8P=w713-h950-no

Horace
07/22/2017, 11:59 AM
I am REALLY waffling on going basement sump or under stand. I do have plenty of room under my stand, but I wont have the flexibility of adding frag tanks, and other larger items.

My pumps this go around are very very quiet, but still not certain if they will be quiet enough.

I suppose I could start the build with everything under the tank, and then go basement later if noise is an issue. So long as I do this during the cycle period it wont be THAT big of a deal to move the sump downstairs.

What would you do? :)

fabulousfavia
07/22/2017, 12:56 PM
Here is my light fixture. This was one of my best DIY projects ever :). This is a 6ft long Makers LED fixture, that currently has 6x Lumia 5.2 LED clusters. Each LED has 5 channels, and individually dimmable, and controlled via the bluefish mini (wifi).

At this point I dont know if this will be enough on its own, and I anticipate potentially adding some T5 tubes later for better light spread, but coming back to the hobby I really wanted to give LEDs a shot. These seemed like a great choice and come highly recommended if you are into DIY :).

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/kVTGPfpgd-tnyyUPuS9d2oLV6PJOGNJ0u867GLxu9wlZz0x7uR7wZjFccpLUG19EVXYpErrS3NhKMu7aHPRE0vhzmnXALrC2JgP3hiaSW0wo8Y RBOmp6d7jcU-d4oIISKKqTwpNlJkIcOGtYule0rgABCfjC855tRXCUIBve56D60J8pdaScwZH6wddWlRSTa-ZF8yEuaDwcDspIStvjYs_6nL7l5E-OsB0mgdnwBOlY8i5M8gqWUHJ2HEzeZ76yfY4xzertqp8ymv01dLD2yV4E3m6WTSsESvknQw7MULKEAQ8QrVR-3q6nISqULbdLWJULYcqeVXXujd7Nucnc1xMwHpCc1HNujP107O6HyfphBUBWcxsEjc_aHZbMRJ4bn2vN39nrzHvfWwEARPRWZBHc MzBFusdPqZekp0lR1iPNIYz06F4WzufQca0jJyNGq5e2OSZGlYo3Pk5-YN88nuo1_p-sErifH2aMo8T9ja3VeiBMVzMUVCmwBAkg6ZmwLz6FByoycBANQQ0z1swpE_wxZtiYBvYYcn1N1z1gwm-BgqRVCFXCBFng-gPmbW9k9u-LeljD-nJka8Qq68BnREWpuoXXQzZw5rRKvE4ZTBsPzz3Z1d1jbSrX=w1280-h950-no

Here is what each LED cluster looks like:

http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server2200/b4d7d/products/249/images/995/lowres_LED_nov25_015__43522.1385941842.1280.1280.jpg?c=2



Eventually you should do a t5/LED hybrid. You can keep almost anything with a hybrid like that. You must have enduring patience to build your own lights. Something I never would have done.


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fabulousfavia
07/22/2017, 12:57 PM
For this build, my plan is to put the sump in the basement. The main reason is i want/need this to be virtually silent. My last tank was amazingly loud, and that is something I want to avoid this go around.

Here is the 60g Sump (also built by ConceptAquariums)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2rNpa5bhYcIbhAts0MxlcI5oTubrwo7Y7PzXJA-1E1RGTzbFdQlWZoJ8e-jzNCwxn0N_buCjZsDRC0uNXKdpc0Fl_WkJi5q21ViSyoZXOg-rkl4eASWhpsHnvF9tiBT7Tex0-Tzj4T1HN9fKYW0XtV0kGqDxZF-SCOZbkMqlJyiz_F3RM7ewKBHufmJ-r_kvvyN4UFzKQPfrTn4AE09VN9I9DNWHmbPNzOwQhLIsl0az7vUva4Td-cT4jkjSZ-5VbAVdeZ4qENbjxPeaSA3da5N9x5-5YS0Z1mjYDp_FjG_QlcqXc7WNGkwU6cLd4gkguVN8njXoqg0H_VxAbAkG-nywXr7orTyTZrZ6MPf3ZocPyHfRLsSgMKAMYrM5786n51yiMrQMlkD6Zlfoz29nsdp7AV8vg89KGSOsDzmBP9qP2E_VcsDTbpiE7 4c3CNuU5xyewHUrzEwZk88Ju8nPe6L5-bwl00yIlEVv03TuprABmkBYQp8GdzSvIjrUCEEAQR6q1ZtgVFf2fjaNmbuc6Pm4jA3jcbmM2kfLnVgiVxCU9u18EmDYccj586au3 M_L5MKZsZyvKNOax2a-9Zhf-cUdQJOtD21bGgDy5Gg-0vtpcilMxQ999Ivq=w706-h950-no



Good choice. Basement sumps are a good idea because you can't hear any of the noise.


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fabulousfavia
07/22/2017, 12:59 PM
Here is a bunch of other goodies:

Vertex Skimmer
Dual chamber Calcium Reactor
Rollermat - (This thing looked really cool and i always hated changing socks)
Reefflakes
Marco Rocks (My reef will start with mostly Marco Rocks. I had a hell of a time with pests in my last tank like aptasia, majonos etc that I would prefer not deal with this go around)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/UGROX-2KNBrp7I8npplak_pt9dQK5tjQXRaWeJ5B9AL7Rhr3Xx8ipJGOGNP1p28JY12bySsrsCE52GpZTzMNMWa4m81sxewbLFbgJlBSdf 0epHBsoTOfsQW0tORzQgo0PFa0IGyljvw7wW6_FMJ0L9P2romjt-sqiiD_ruHimk0xFIDDqIoP_GZPbY9ch_fGQcWCAXz_IfTjT4X80NAKSzYzpJDMmuz07Sj6Sz8qA-3T2iXm6msu_1ilVbACcMaDv0vScgGahmNmdUvJeZmYPZg0xYkXHao9V5LhiUHPcUtCiQmZSfZ3xXoAEGr1ptHi4rkYZ24szkmf4E jCZTf4Xnuj7D4b7kXpAXERN8TgKQJ3WAVLFrI1zGgVBF__oSUrsf831CgTN5MNks0y2PmJT1DW9Bwiqdkg-bhvY2T6s80_JSN1y9XCSPxWNee48yW9U8PmcVbOVRHiGB7CUYGywCrz2V85F3oRZnfO4tB3omZgajsa12ONrrSXTrgBVYAiOBpHQ BUheVPBYoMmqtq3IwnEq4nHsF_Rrxa8RkoIfjoH6awWSdDIvoAK5XrjWrg3SY-cnjYP7vTOxC0gk4Va0W5_THysSarw5CR-I_RW2ZR-vpRh4r5HL-m5=w1280-h950-no

DIY Dual Stage Regulator - If you have a single stage, I suggest looking into the reasons to go dual stage!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4Rk-gk_2qGLznNYdnYKch765dnykpV_XsEvmmyCO6Vv2F3HPj0Rp7UomugiXMjchykgnSAlVnp7KMUUrCRJO2aBLipGoG9sDbn8omN_Q 8nUkxiS-tjI4xgMA2q5jtTB4isJ6aOfSSrADVwkpjxjpjKA_muEX8yfSQB-apMBt38C5CDcbAebPS10XsYFBOEYFu2LL7zqwwb5o6SnIzdv6VnW2E9JbskVNk1LTfknhjTEOQX1EeP7a9guudMcPQ-Xg9GIDzySti047KpxbSouqEcCsEgIrrYyvxPC3EcIpg4AGoTMlRrr0vJ5ZfITxthh8LvOFxGfoGp_L69jE-kGTwEiC-BYspUbmAOBF7JpSURM36F5_wepcGxh8nYmcj8dP45KgvlLnKO7qD4mFAVjvbWZCTeVqnpCTeoqc5LQBtNSyRYjgdP1m1iSTL9ifK gC8pGqlTGzU9A9XeZsPFd70NivA5BpVm1cESwl43ztG0aQqOX726c-WjinADIdQqAHlWEEsVIlj9fH07si3-2nFAcNfo48da2TSLUVzg3SJErb_f_XRxQJG6LjEOKd2xfTij1wBUC8E3AqDQ2FGmmDoJ47AjIgAkXkG1JW3GL58sMMGcGBMDIhtX V8P=w713-h950-no


A roller mat is a good idea. I also use a dual reactor and it keeps my water pristine.



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fabulousfavia
07/22/2017, 01:03 PM
I am REALLY waffling on going basement sump or under stand. I do have plenty of room under my stand, but I wont have the flexibility of adding frag tanks, and other larger items.

My pumps this go around are very very quiet, but still not certain if they will be quiet enough.

I suppose I could start the build with everything under the tank, and then go basement later if noise is an issue. So long as I do this during the cycle period it wont be THAT big of a deal to move the sump downstairs.

What would you do? :)



If I were you I would just start out with a basement sump. I doubt noise would be an issue even if you had your filtration under your stand, but if you do a basement sump you will have room for qt tanks, frag growout stations, and maybe a small fish room.


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Horace
07/22/2017, 02:02 PM
If I were you I would just start out with a basement sump. I doubt noise would be an issue even if you had your filtration under your stand, but if you do a basement sump you will have room for qt tanks, frag growout stations, and maybe a small fish room.


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Yeah, I hear you on that. I really do want a basement sump, but there are several minor hangups that go along with it.

To name a few:
- I need to cut holes in the wall of my brand new house :)

- I need to run very long pipes and the head pressure is extreme. I do have a pump that can handle it (DCP18000 I test it and its more than enough flow), and it will be way overkill for an under-stand setup, but I can dial it down because its a DC pump.

- I cant easily control anything in the basement with my apex if I put the apex with my tank, OR vice versa, if I put the apex in the basement, I cant easily control anything in the tank w/out super long wires. I would also have to use the app as opposed to the display panel (probably not a big negative really), because going downstairs to do anything would be a PITA. My current challenge is how would i turn off all pumps to feed? If I do a sump install, it would require likely both triggering the feed button on the main pump, AND the in tank pumps, unless I ran a long wire from the tank down to the pump (doable I suppose).

- I am a bit concerned with sump overflows given the amount of water backflowing to the sump during power shut down (i do not want check valves, or are they dependable). Because of such a long run of fairly large return line (1.25"), that is quite a bit of water that has to be accounted for in the sump for standard running level. Any slight clog in my siphon break could end up with water on the floor (the positive is at least it would be in the basement and more easily contained.

- Overall, the setup is more costly, and much more labor intensive to setup.

fabulousfavia
07/22/2017, 04:43 PM
It is totally up to you. If you want an extensive project that can lengthen the time of your build. Super long Ethernet cables (for the apex) are not super expensive though as I got a hundred foot cat 6 for $12. If your budget and patience are high I would say totally go for it. It just might save you if one of your pipes starts to spray water. Even without the apex display module it is easy to control your tank via your phone and what I usually prefer. Either way whichever you choose will be great.


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Horace
07/23/2017, 04:33 PM
Today was a long day of working on the tank, with not a ton to show for it. I went to Lowe's and bought about $100 worth of PVC fittings to start plumbing.

For now, I have made the hard decision to put the sump under the stand. I can always change direction later but that is the plan for now.

I also had to do some work on the sump. Because I am going with the Rollermat instead of socks, the sock holder section of the sump was wasting a ton of space so it had to be removed. Let me tell u removing glass baffles that are siliconed in is a real *****! I likely will put the Rollermat in or above the sump to minimize any flood risk, though I'm considering risking it based on the size of the unit. The space in the sump is valuable, so positioning it outside of the sump will allow me to put my skimmer in the first section as opposed to my second. This would make room for an ATS and perhaps a frag rack .... decisions decisions.


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Horace
07/24/2017, 03:57 PM
Round 1 of rock scaping

I think it came out pretty decent. Without going extreme with PVC supports and mortar to hold it all up, it's got a ton of nooks and crannies while not just looking like a man-made stack of rocks with unnatural arches and leges that I see so often.

My last tank was the fruit stand look of the old days. I think this look is a bit more natural and much more of the sand bed is visible. Leaning towards minimalist scaping.

I definitely welcome input and opinions!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170724/9974cc011c431b3b7b23995fc0f5108b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170724/bc5f9f378df06f98b1f3287b651d91df.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170724/1b1ca6773389c0ad2fc13a58dff4df81.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170724/708bf3efbc097fc00e57fb40e1b06647.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170724/9acfb0e34e52820c0240b701f65bd522.jpg

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NCReefDude
07/25/2017, 07:45 PM
I love the minimalist look with rock work, especially in 6ft tanks

Horace
07/29/2017, 10:08 AM
I am not sure I would do this again...dang was this alot of work!


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fabulousfavia
07/30/2017, 08:44 PM
Round 1 of rock scaping

I think it came out pretty decent. Without going extreme with PVC supports and mortar to hold it all up, it's got a ton of nooks and crannies while not just looking like a man-made stack of rocks with unnatural arches and leges that I see so often.

My last tank was the fruit stand look of the old days. I think this look is a bit more natural and much more of the sand bed is visible. Leaning towards minimalist scaping.

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It's nice, but with a minimalist approach there is less space for coral unless you want a bunch of soft coral islands. If you have minimalist I would suggest doing a gravel bed section and quite a bit of rubble.


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Horace
07/31/2017, 12:59 PM
I've got a lot of space in the sump. I can put some rubble in there. Actually that was my plan anyway for helping to build/maintain a pod population.

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fabulousfavia
08/01/2017, 07:56 AM
I've got a lot of space in the sump. I can put some rubble in there. Actually that was my plan anyway for helping to build/maintain a pod population.

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An even better way would be chateo. The pods will find it immediately and will colonize in it. Unless you put a lot of rubble in your sump, they won't colonize very much.


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Horace
08/01/2017, 08:27 PM
Cheato will not survive in my tank with a turf scrubber, otherwise I would. There will be enough...

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fabulousfavia
08/02/2017, 09:00 AM
Cheato will not survive in my tank with a turf scrubber, otherwise I would. There will be enough...

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Okay if you have a lot of rock than it should be fine.


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Horace
08/03/2017, 09:05 AM
Tank is currently being filled!

So exciting :)

Pictures of the plumbing etc are forthcoming!

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Horace
08/03/2017, 07:47 PM
HALF FULL!

Here is the plumbing so far. I still have to finish gluing the lower part of the drains (thus the reason u can see some unpainted portions. I also still need to plumb the Rollermat and reactors into the return manifold. I decided to run pretty much everything from the return, at least for now.

Calcium reactor also needs a home, and I am hoping to find room for a ATS. I may have to build a narrow one to fit in the middle sump chamber. I plan to keep the Rollermat external and put that on a stand next to/ over the drain section.

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BlackburnD
08/04/2017, 07:11 AM
Looks legit. I am just getting back around to learning about the hobby again after a 10 year hiatus. Couple questions. You intend to leave the stand open like that, or are there some panels that go around it? I was thinking of building a steel stand like this, and was comptemplating ways to make and secure covers.

Also what is a Rollermat? I assume it's that odd contraption on the left outside the sump

Horace
08/04/2017, 02:03 PM
Yes that is a Rollermat. It is an Auto changing filter floss device. Essentially eliminates the need for filter socks and changing them.

Yes I plan to build panels, and about 75% certain I will be putting a canopy on too. All in due time :). Those items are for looks, and I want to get the tank functioning properly first.

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Horace
08/04/2017, 02:04 PM
My goal now is to get the tank cycled, then add some fishies :)

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BlackburnD
08/05/2017, 01:24 AM
Interesting. I will be following along. Interested what you come up with for the paneling and how to secure it for sure.

dimasv
08/05/2017, 06:11 AM
Looks really cool following along

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Horace
08/07/2017, 08:13 PM
Interesting. I will be following along. Interested what you come up with for the paneling and how to secure it for sure.I have some thoughts....I am considering using Velcro strips on all the steel, and adhering a 1x3 frame to it. The attach panels and doors to that.

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Horace
08/11/2017, 08:46 AM
Looks like I need to get rid of those photobucket links. Curse you Photobucket!!!

New Update:

I got some ceramic media from my buddy's tank to help inject some bacteria, and dosed 2ppm of Dr Tim's Ammonia Chloride to get the cycle rocking and rolling.

I am hoping that there is enough good bacteria in his media to start the cycle going, but we shall see :).

I also plan to pick up 30-50 lbs of live/cured rock rubble today at my LFS. That should also jump start the cycle.

Ive got my eye on a few fish, so updates will be coming as my cycle progresses!

Official start of cycle started last night.

Horace
08/11/2017, 03:51 PM
Added some cured sump rubble to hopefully jumpstart the cycle. Unfortunately it appears this live rock, while cured is likely not very "alive". It was in a large vat of salt water and very clean, but there were no fish, and no curing live rock in there to keep the denitrifying bacteria alive. I did also get a small scoop of sand from their tank that DID have fish it it (some really darn big ones too I might add), so hopefully that had some nice bacteria in it

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Horace
08/11/2017, 07:52 PM
Another small update concerning the in-stand sump. At this point I do not regret the decision. By making a manifold and running everything off of it, the tank is extremely quiet. That DC18000 is dead silent....I am running it at 80%, and I cant hear it at all. The in tank CP40s and the skimmer pump are significantly louder, and those are still very quiet. The BeanAnimal drains are also VERY quiet. There is just a slight trickle of water sound coming from the durso pipe, but that is it. The main siphon line is dead silent, and it is moving ALOT of water. The only pump I have yet to have running is the Calcium Reactor, and that may add a bit more noise, but I also plan to enclose the stand, and that should deaden the sound even further. Overall I am super happy thus far. This tank is SOOOOOOOO much quieter than my last tank.

Horace
08/11/2017, 08:27 PM
Did a little tweak to my Apex autotop off code tonight:

I added a time to it so that it would only operate during a 3 min window each morning. This add a additional safety to the system. IE it only opens my RO solenoid for 3 mins, rather than potentially running 24 hours if the tank springs a leak and the float switch triggers the solenoid to open.

This not only adds safety, but it also means my RO unit will cycle FAR less often. So instead of turning on/off all day long, it will only top off the tank ONE time per day. If I find its not filling it all the way in 3 mins (That should be plenty of time), I will increase the window a bit.

The code: (the time looks like its wrong and in reverse, but since you cant code and "AND" statement, that is how you have to do it...basically code the second part of the AND in reverse logic...So the first statement turns it on, but unless the time is between 6:57AM and 7:00AM, it is immediately shut off (before it ever turns on). The sw_Hig is the safety float that ensures if the sump overfills, it will kill the RO feed (this should NEVER happen with only a 3 min window to fill the tank, but safety never hurts!!!!)

Fallback OFF
If Sw_ATO CLOSED Then ON
If Time 07:00 to 06:57 Then OFF
If Sw_ATO OPEN Then OFF
If Sw_Hig CLOSED Then OFF

Horace
08/11/2017, 08:48 PM
Tested the Nitrites and i do have a very small tinge of color already (probably only about .05 ppm), so the cycle has started. Still LOTS of ammonia in the tank!

Horace
08/15/2017, 06:23 PM
Started the canopy tonight. Normally folks leave the rear open....I did not because I don't want fish jumping out the back, nor do I want the wall behind the tank to get damaged by moisture. I also want to keep the light contained.

The panels for the sides will hang over by 1" to keep the canopy secure, and to hide the 1" waterline. The rear does not overhang which allows the canopy to slide on from the front, otherwise it would be alot harder to install/remove if/when needed.

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Horace
08/15/2017, 06:26 PM
Joints will mostly be hidden using pocket joints

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BlackburnD
08/16/2017, 06:23 AM
looking good. I really need to brush up on my carpentry skills... Building your own stand really seems like the way to go

Horace
08/16/2017, 06:42 AM
looking good. I really need to brush up on my carpentry skills... Building your own stand really seems like the way to go

To be fair I didnt build my stand, but I did have it built (im not a welder). However a standard 180 canopy would not have worked well. So at minimum i would have needed to build that. Its going to be a heck of a lot of work to get it finished (ive never made doors before, so this should be interesting :)). ive been reading alot about how to make Shaker doors with concealed hinges. Ive got a nice jig to drill the doors, and plan to also pocket the frame together, but still not 100% decided how I want to put the panel in. I have a few options for doing the panel, one being pretty easy but I am not sure if it will have the look I am going for, others will look better but are substantially more work and would likely mean I need to buy a router table. I just have a handheld which likely isnt precise enough.

Vinny Kreyling
08/19/2017, 09:03 AM
IF you decide to do a basement sump a few suggestions:
Cut the hole in the floor - use a floor heat cover for the rectangular size.
This allows for more room for hose or pipe that just "holes".
Next put everything on a bench, not the floor. Saves your back, makes things easy to work on & will cut a few feet off the head pressure.
Wish I had this option, crawling under is a hassle.

Horace
08/21/2017, 08:14 AM
I completed a fish less cycle and added the first fish last night.

All fish came from well established tanks, NOT LFS, so QT was not necessary.

Blue Tang
Tomini Tang
Melanrus Wrasse
2x Blue Green Chromis

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Horace
08/21/2017, 08:18 AM
Wrasse was still in the sand and the Tomini was still behind the rocks this morning too.

It's nice to finally have inhabitants :)

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Horace
08/21/2017, 08:33 AM
IF you decide to do a basement sump a few suggestions:
Cut the hole in the floor - use a floor heat cover for the rectangular size.
This allows for more room for hose or pipe that just "holes".
Next put everything on a bench, not the floor. Saves your back, makes things easy to work on & will cut a few feet off the head pressure.
Wish I had this option, crawling under is a hassle.

That is a really damn good idea......had I thought of that, I probably would have gone with a basement sump. Though honestly, I do have alot of room under my stand (its 42" tall). It also very quiet, and I dont even have it enclosed yet. But if I ever want to put a frag tank down stairs, I may just do that!!!

Horace
08/22/2017, 06:31 PM
Got more work done on my canopy and was able to test my lights. My camera pics look like complete crap with the blues on so here it is with only the white channel at 80% power.

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Horace
08/22/2017, 06:33 PM
Here are the other pics of the other 4 channels....the camera just doesn't capture the light well at all....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170823/20556764f71f27e8ee157b1165f52017.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170823/1fc427f5eeedf563a75123c061c5d6ed.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170823/43cc41906817be2b06d919aa3a9ca13a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170823/23fd3e8386eca55446c6023b35635e83.jpg

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Horace
08/23/2017, 02:07 PM
This is what the light fixture looks like. I cut a hole in the top of the canopy so that some of the heat would stay out and the salt/moisture would not get on the electronics.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170823/433e997158aefa502827935d6f0cb7a5.jpg

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Horace
08/23/2017, 02:12 PM
View of the underside.

Before I get any comments/questions, yes I will be putting a front on it with access doors, molding/crown, and the whole thing will be painted.

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Should look like this when done
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Horace
09/02/2017, 10:19 AM
Made some good progress on the stand

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Added a base trim, crown around the bottom of the rim, and corner molding.

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View from the back so you can see how it was constructed. I personally really like pocket hole joints

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Still haven't figured out how I am going to hide all the electronics etc. Thinking of building a panel on one end behind the door.

k2swat
09/02/2017, 10:25 AM
Man that is looking good. Great looking setup so far. Can't wait to see when you start adding those SPS.

Horace
09/02/2017, 10:36 AM
Definitely hit the diatom phase!

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on the spot
09/02/2017, 11:13 AM
...Still haven't figured out how I am going to hide all the electronics etc. Thinking of building a panel on one end behind the door.

What, the puddle of wires on the floor doesn't do it? :)

Decided on velcro or magnets to hold the facing?
nice work BTW.

Horace
09/02/2017, 04:41 PM
What, the puddle of wires on the floor doesn't do it? :)

Decided on velcro or magnets to hold the facing?
nice work BTW.I don't think anything will be needed. It fits very snug. And by not making it permanent, I can remove it if need be. I was thinking Velcro when I was thinking panels, but this works better, and the outside mitres will stay nicely aligned this way.

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Horace
09/05/2017, 05:24 PM
Two doors down...

The rest are cut/routed, just not trimmed out yet.

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Horace
09/05/2017, 05:32 PM
Got the skimmer (Vertex Alpha 200) tuned up! Getting about 3/4 cup a day of dark nastiness....this is about 24hrs of skimmate

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Horace
09/10/2017, 07:51 PM
The stand is finished, except for some touchups and minor details. Very pleased with how it turned out!

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Reef908
09/11/2017, 08:37 PM
Looking good! How are you liking the roller mat so far? How difficult was it to plumb in? I'm thinking of adding this to my new 180 around xmas time and am looking for some first had reviews..

Horace
09/12/2017, 11:40 AM
Looking good! How are you liking the roller mat so far? How difficult was it to plumb in? I'm thinking of adding this to my new 180 around xmas time and am looking for some first had reviews..

I am holding review of the rollermat until its run a while. It has not even had to roll clean material yet (its been going for 2 days). It was a bit of a challenge to plumb (make sure you get the conversion fittings). it looks like the conversion fittings are for 1" feed, 1/2" overflow, and 1 1/4" drain.

I am running it with the top off (ive heard that the dirty roll will not dry if it stays enclosed, resulting in it being too heavy and the motor getting burned out. I also plan to manually keep the float valve nice and clean to avoid it from getting stuck, which will waste an entire roll of material. Otherwise, I expect it to relieve a good amount of work (washing filtersocks)

Reef908
09/12/2017, 01:24 PM
I am holding review of the rollermat until its run a while. It has not even had to roll clean material yet (its been going for 2 days). It was a bit of a challenge to plumb (make sure you get the conversion fittings). it looks like the conversion fittings are for 1" feed, 1/2" overflow, and 1 1/4" drain.

I am running it with the top off (ive heard that the dirty roll will not dry if it stays enclosed, resulting in it being too heavy and the motor getting burned out. I also plan to manually keep the float valve nice and clean to avoid it from getting stuck, which will waste an entire roll of material. Otherwise, I expect it to relieve a good amount of work (washing filtersocks)

:thumbsup: keep us posted once it's been running. Good idea on keeping the top off. I was thinking to myself if that could be an issue.

Albertan_Reef
09/12/2017, 01:29 PM
My tank and sump were built by concept in calgary as well. Luckily for me, its my local LFS. Yours is coming along very nicely. I went with a minimalist look in my tank as well!

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Horace
09/13/2017, 06:59 AM
My tank and sump were built by concept in calgary as well. Luckily for me, its my local LFS. Yours is coming along very nicely. I went with a minimalist look in my tank as well!

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Nice I did not know they were an LFS, but it makes sense :).

Nice guys over there. I didnt have the best experience with getting the tank built/shipped to the US, but they did me right in the end. (first tank was damaged and took quite a while to finally get the second one)

Albertan_Reef
09/13/2017, 08:16 AM
Nice I did not know they were an LFS, but it makes sense :).

Nice guys over there. I didnt have the best experience with getting the tank built/shipped to the US, but they did me right in the end. (first tank was damaged and took quite a while to finally get the second one)Yeah, they have a really nice stock of fish and coral. Amazing prices for canada, and everything is healthy. There tank wuality is great, mines 4 years old now and still going strong! When i decide to go bigger then a 150, they will be building that tank as well. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170913/7ebfd8cd920b4c4469783b45a9b91e1f.jpg

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James404
09/13/2017, 09:28 AM
Setup is looking great so far. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the rollermat after some time with it.

Horace
09/16/2017, 05:45 PM
Finished up the canopyhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170916/4e1edbc1b60a6a6e14227d8ff5c837d4.jpg

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sahin
09/22/2017, 02:48 AM
That is some lovely work on the tank cabinetry. :thumbsup: If the old tank is anything to go by this one is going to be awesome. :)

Horace
09/22/2017, 03:33 AM
That is some lovely work on the tank cabinetry. [emoji106] If the old tank is anything to go by this one is going to be awesome. :)Thank you! So far the tank looks like crap lol! I hope I can turn that around soon

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