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Carey1465
07/22/2017, 10:03 PM
I'm thinking about adding a 150 gallon Rubbermaid stock tank to my 210 gallon display. I'll mainly put LR in the stock tank but my only concern is I read reviews about the Rubbermaid tanks and they tend to crack and leak. Has anyone had this problem before? I'd be worried I would come home work and have a basement full of water. Any other ideas for a large tubs?


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der_wille_zur_macht
07/23/2017, 06:29 AM
I've never heard of this and honestly, I find it hard to believe. These things are built to hold liquid in very demanding environments. I know of farmers locally who abuse the crap out of Rubbermaid brand stock tanks year after year without issue. Shoving them around with heavy machinery, leaving them outside full of water all winter exposed to freeze/thaw cycles, and so on.

Now, if someone is popping holes in it for bulkheads or doing something else questionable, then all bets are off. But I would be shocked to hear that they crack leak on a regular basis.

For the record I'm assuming we are talking about the big black structural foam stock tanks sold on the commercial product line:

http://www.rubbermaidcommercial.com/rcp/products/detail.jsp?categoryCode=agriculture&subCategoryCode=agriculture_stock_tanks&rcpNum=4242-88

johnike
07/23/2017, 06:45 AM
I run a 100 gallon one for a sump, and a 50 gallon one as an attached lagoon to my reef system. No problems for years, and never have seen a problem with them anywhere else.

billdogg
07/23/2017, 07:03 AM
I've never heard of this and honestly, I find it hard to believe. These things are built to hold liquid in very demanding environments. I know of farmers locally who abuse the crap out of Rubbermaid brand stock tanks year after year without issue. Shoving them around with heavy machinery, leaving them outside full of water all winter exposed to freeze/thaw cycles, and so on.

Now, if someone is popping holes in it for bulkheads or doing something else questionable, then all bets are off. But I would be shocked to hear that they crack leak on a regular basis.

For the record I'm assuming we are talking about the big black structural foam stock tanks sold on the commercial product line:

http://www.rubbermaidcommercial.com/rcp/products/detail.jsp?categoryCode=agriculture&subCategoryCode=agriculture_stock_tanks&rcpNum=4242-88

I run a 100 gallon one for a sump, and a 50 gallon one as an attached lagoon to my reef system. No problems for years, and never have seen a problem with them anywhere else.

This

Of all the things that can leak in our systems, my rubbermaid stock tank is the very last thing I would worry about. Heck - one of the selling points for me was the fact that if Johnike can't get it to leak, who could??????????:beer:

sfsuphysics
07/23/2017, 07:21 AM
I have a 300g one that's been in the ground for about 10 years, then outside in the sun for about 10 years, and currently is holding fish and rocks, no leaks so far.

Breadman03
07/23/2017, 07:24 AM
The bulkheads tend to leak, but that can be addressed when you set it up.

Carey1465
07/23/2017, 08:00 AM
Thanks for all the replies!! I was wondering if some of these reviews were farmers who use their stock tanks outside during the winter months and have the water freeze then crack them.

I was looking online for some ideas on how to plumb it into my system but had no luck. Here's my idea.... I have a Trigger System Ruby 36E that's crammed under my stand now. I would like to have the two drains go into the 150 stock tank then somehow drain into my sump without drilling a hole into my sump. Has anyone done this setup before? If so, please post some pics.

And I also read the bulkheads tend to leak. How would I change it out?


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johnike
07/23/2017, 08:23 AM
This

Of all the things that can leak in our systems, my rubbermaid stock tank is the very last thing I would worry about. Heck - one of the selling points for me was the fact that if Johnike can't get it to leak, who could??????????:beer:

Bite me, Bill.
;)
:)

ca1ore
07/23/2017, 10:36 AM
The bulkheads tend to leak, but that can be addressed when you set it up.

Yes they do. Either replace with a better quality fitting or use silicone.

johnike
07/23/2017, 10:42 AM
Yes they do. Either replace with a better quality fitting or use silicone.

That's what I did, replaced the bulkheads on both.

Carey1465
07/23/2017, 01:42 PM
Any pics of your setup guys? Ideas?


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Carey1465
07/23/2017, 04:56 PM
If I'm going to add another 150 gallons to my existing system, (10 months old) should I cycle the new 150 gallons first?


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der_wille_zur_macht
07/23/2017, 05:12 PM
The water itself doesn't need to be cycled but in your first post you mentioned filling it with live rock - you would certainly want that rock to be clean and stable before introducing it to your system.

karimwassef
07/23/2017, 05:35 PM
If I may piggy back on the OP's ask, I'm also going to be using large containers for sumps, surges, reservoirs, mixing tanks, sediment filters, etc... here's the containers list:

https://www.ntotank.com/1300gallon-norwesco-black-opentop-containment-tank-x8829122

https://www.ntotank.com/625gallon-acerotomold-white-opentop-containment-tank-x9873974

https://www.ntotank.com/400gallon-crmi-natural-white-cylindrical-open-top-tank-x6907055

https://www.ntotank.com/325gallon-acerotomold-white-opentop-containment-tank-x8666939

https://www.ntotank.com/30gallon-chemtainer-white-polyethylene-rectangular-opentop-tank-x4370287

and still considering this for the raised reservoir... so cheap, hard to resist: https://www.ntotank.com/200gallon-crmi-natural-white-rectangular-open-top-tank-x5272244

Anything there look inappropriate for a reef system?

Carey1465
07/23/2017, 09:29 PM
The water itself doesn't need to be cycled but in your first post you mentioned filling it with live rock - you would certainly want that rock to be clean and stable before introducing it to your system.



I have a bunch of dry live rock from my other tanks. Of course I wouldn't throw it all in at once. I've bleached it, rinsed it and dried it before I stored the rock. Is that what you mean?


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der_wille_zur_macht
07/24/2017, 04:16 AM
Assuming it is totally clean then it should be OK. It might make sense to soak it in some newly mixed saltwater for a day or two and see what happens. If you get a nutrient spike then cycle it before using it.

Carey1465
07/24/2017, 07:36 AM
What I may do is soak the live rock in my old water from my water change and put a heater and power head in. Maybe do that for a couple months


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der_wille_zur_macht
07/24/2017, 06:19 PM
That would be fine.

It's worth testing after a few days of soaking, you may find it's clean enough that there are no issues putting it online immediately.