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ssgss gogeta
08/04/2017, 03:29 AM
So I did a rescape last weekend. Got a couple of my lps hat were quiet soft to touch are now very hard to touch. But they still have color and haven't fully retracted.

Any advice? It's in a 15g nano which has clam and sps which are perfectly fine. So not sure why the lps would die when the sps hasn't


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ssgss gogeta
08/04/2017, 03:41 AM
I did add a toadstool maybe a few days before the rescape surely it's not just that though


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ssgss gogeta
08/04/2017, 05:31 AM
Also to add im just not sure ive never seen a coral harden like that but keep its coral and not disintegrate


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karimwassef
08/04/2017, 06:53 AM
Pictures would help

Reef Bass
08/05/2017, 07:39 AM
If the lps have color and flesh, they are not dead. Dead corals have no flesh and are white from exposed skeleton. Many lps swell and retract as part of their normal activity. Retraction is inevitable if you're handling them. They should puff back up eventually.

As karimwassef stated, pictures would help.

ssgss gogeta
08/06/2017, 02:00 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170806/f829e8a6e09514be5d048906c2e2189f.jpg

Still has some flesh but it's so far back to the skeleton it's not funny. And for the life of me I can't figure out why. Everything in tank is absolutely fine thriving even.


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karimwassef
08/06/2017, 05:54 AM
It's unhappy but not dead. However, in this stressed state, you can easily kill it by doing something rough.

Think of it as being sick and be gentle with it.

How does it look at night? Is it getting too much direct flow? Does it need less light?

ssgss gogeta
08/06/2017, 07:35 AM
It's unhappy but not dead. However, in this stressed state, you can easily kill it by doing something rough.

Think of it as being sick and be gentle with it.

How does it look at night? Is it getting too much direct flow? Does it need less light?



So it pretty much happened after the re-scape. But the re-scape was to move he rocks off the back wall to get less dead spots. So I literally just moved the rocks forward. And changed the middle and other side ever so slightly. As far as flow and light it should be almost identical to what it had before. It normally deflates at night and as soon as the lights come back on expands. It expanded for the first few days after the re-scape and now hasn't for a week.


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karimwassef
08/06/2017, 07:46 AM
It might have been physically damaged - scratched? but you can't see it.

Have you tried using a localized appetite stimulant to get it to feed?

Water changes can also help freshen things up.

I had a scoly that was being eaten and that made it tighten up like that. Might need to move it again since a worm or crab may have it on its radar in that location

ssgss gogeta
08/06/2017, 08:46 AM
It might have been physically damaged - scratched? but you can't see it.

Have you tried using a localized appetite stimulant to get it to feed?

Water changes can also help freshen things up.

I had a scoly that was being eaten and that made it tighten up like that. Might need to move it again since a worm or crab may have it on its radar in that location



Localized appetite stimulant?? No idea what that is man. I target feed reef roids twice a week. I'm gonna give it a couple more days where it is and if no improvement I'll try moving it


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karimwassef
08/06/2017, 12:08 PM
That's where you make a juice of the stuff they like and spray it on them. Mine respond to roids, chilli, garlic, fatty oils, etc...

CrazyCanadian
08/07/2017, 11:50 AM
Help? Is my torch savable or is it doomed 😞 Is it brown jelly?

karimwassef
08/07/2017, 12:04 PM
Ouch! The prognosis on that is not good. Tissue falling off.

I would use a gentle flow just enough to keep the boundary layer moving. Watch it and look for any opportunity to feed small easy to digest foods like cyclopese soaked in fatty acids. It has to regroup and make up for all that lost tissue.

Frankly, I'd give it a 1% chance assuming perfect conditions.

CrazyCanadian
08/07/2017, 12:28 PM
Ouch! The prognosis on that is not good. Tissue falling off.

I would use a gentle flow just enough to keep the boundary layer moving. Watch it and look for any opportunity to feed small easy to digest foods like cyclopese soaked in fatty acids. It has to regroup and make up for all that lost tissue.

Frankly, I'd give it a 1% chance assuming perfect conditions.

Shoot. Ok thank you. I was considering moving it to the bottom of the tank but I thought it might get the attention of the inverts and stress it out more. I'll try the Cyclepes. Thank you.

karimwassef
08/07/2017, 12:45 PM
I would use a very gentle flow to wash away the dead tissue. I can't emphasize enough "gently". A turkey baster would be too strong. If it doesn't come off with a gentle flow, I would just leave it and let the inverts separate dead from living.

In my experience, doing nothing is usually better when it looks that bad. Most actions just lead to an accelerated rate of death. But I've also seen coral rebound from terrible damage on their own!

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CrazyCanadian
08/07/2017, 03:17 PM
I would use a very gentle flow to wash away the dead tissue. I can't emphasize enough "gently". A turkey baster would be too strong. If it doesn't come off with a gentle flow, I would just leave it and let the inverts separate dead from living.

In my experience, doing nothing is usually better when it looks that bad. Most actions just lead to an accelerated rate of death. But I've also seen coral rebound from terrible damage on their own!

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Wow quite the recovery that guy made! I moved mine to the bottom and gently swept some water across the surface. I don't think it's brown jelly as it just seems like it's turning brown as a result of dying but then again I am by no means experienced in dealing with this. Just going to hope it makes it and if not maybe it's self preserving and Il have some regrow that in a couple months 🤞

CrazyCanadian
08/07/2017, 03:55 PM
Ouch! The prognosis on that is not good. Tissue falling off.

I would use a gentle flow just enough to keep the boundary layer moving. Watch it and look for any opportunity to feed small easy to digest foods like cyclopese soaked in fatty acids. It has to regroup and make up for all that lost tissue.

Frankly, I'd give it a 1% chance assuming perfect conditions.

In your opinion does it look like bjd? Or is it turning that colour as a result of dying? I just don't want to infect other coral in the tank.

karimwassef
08/07/2017, 04:12 PM
I really can't tell. Brown jelly is usually more "jelly" like. That looks like dead tissue

CrazyCanadian
08/07/2017, 04:28 PM
I really can't tell. Brown jelly is usually more "jelly" like. That looks like dead tissue

That's what I thought too.

ozmosis7
08/17/2017, 06:40 AM
That looks more like a reaction to tank environment to me. Have you tested your water?