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JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 12:14 AM
Hi All,

I figured I'd finally start a build thread on here of the current reef tank build. First I want to start by saying thank you to everyone for the support, advice, and opinions that have been shared. I find this group to be extremely helpful.

Next, a little history on why I got into reef tanks and started this build. I grew up on a sailboat in Honolulu Hawaii. I was a beach bum and probably should of gone to school. Instead, I went to the beach everyday and ended up dropping out. Shortly after, I decided to move away from home to get my act together. I moved to Houston Texas for a job and have been here ever since. Offcourse I missed home and many years ago I decided to start a standard and very thin 55 gallon. This was my attempt to bring paradise to Houston. I never liked the look of it, as my aquascaping options were pretty much non existent. Within 6 months I convinced myself to buy a reef ready 105. This gave me more depth and my aquascaping options opened up a bit. The tank was up and running about a year but unfortunatly my housing situation put an abrupt stop on the hobby I grew to enjoy. My landlord did not like the idea of a fish tank in his house and understandably so. For the last few years I've planned on a large tank but I was unsure of when I could actually build one since I've been renting. Well 6 months ago I finally bought my first house and with the support of my wife, I decided it was time to build the tank I've been dreaming about. I've had to make some large concessions to get her full support haha but I was finally able to sell her on it.

Now to the build! I've always like tanks with a lot of depth. To me they seemed more natural and gave the true appearence of having a real slice of the ocean in your living room. Steve Weist's and the Triton Reef Tank were always inspirations to what I was hoping on creating.

Customaquariums.com
72"L x 69"W x 24"T
3/4" glass tank with aluminum trim

JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 12:17 AM
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JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 12:19 AM
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JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 12:46 AM
Those were some pictures prior to delivery. Jessica at customaquariums.com was a breeze to work with and I have nothing but good things to say.

Brian with Modular Marine built the low profile overflow and the acrylic work is perfect. I have nothing but good things to say about him as well.

I decided to go with a wide internal overflow box and toothless weir to maxamize skimming. I'm shooting for 6x turnover through the sump via a BeanAnimal drain setup. Drains will be 1.5" schedule 80 and 1.25" return(s).

JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 12:54 AM
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08/22/2017, 12:58 AM
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JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 01:38 AM
Stand is 48" tall so the tank is at eye level. I hated bending down to view my last two tanks. I added a ceiling and vertical column to create symmetry with the other load bearing columns.

The stand was based off of RocketEngineers design using larger lumber. 2x10 headers, 2x6 verticals, 2x4 base, and 3/4" plywood for stand bottom and top. The stand was tied into the load bearing columns for extra support.

The ceiling was cut out to add more water resistant cement board.

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I had my electrician wire up 3 additional circuits and ran the lines to the main breaker panel in the garage. I also decided to move the light switches on the columns to a different wall. I didn't want the switches too close to the tank. After the electrician cut the holes in the columns, I was pleasantly surprised to find two outlets that the original home builder sealed when they dry walked the columns.

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txdragonslayer
08/22/2017, 05:01 AM
Wow I have never seen a tank that wide before, this is going to be great!

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JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 07:35 AM
Wow I have never seen a tank that wide before, this is going to be great!

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Thanks bud. More updates shortly.

JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 08:10 AM
I ended up hiring a LFS to help me move the tank in. The tank is 800lbs dry and because of the width it took 8 of us to get the tank inside. We had to turn it on its side to get it through the front door.


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08/22/2017, 08:12 AM
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chitown tom
08/22/2017, 08:19 AM
I'm following along for inspiration.

My wife and I are currently house hunting and she has agreed to a huge main display that finally will get out of the basement!

My plan was a 500 gallon peninsula.

Andrew D
08/22/2017, 08:41 AM
Looking forward to this one. Great dimensions and great location for the tank. At 4 feet high, you'll have lots of room under the tank too which mine is unfortunately lacking. Question about the overflow though, in your third post you said you were going with a wide internal overflow box but later pictures look like you've gone external. Am I wrong and if not why did you decide on the change? I have an external coast to coast and absolutely love it.

JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 09:02 AM
Due to evaporation and humidity concerns I had a large whole home dehumidifier installed.
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My home was already at 60-65% relative humidity with my a/c on all the time. With the extra 10-15 gallons of evaporation a day this was my best option. Luckily my father in law owns an a/c company so I got everything at his cost. We also doubled the size of my returns to better export moisture to the dehumidifier. The returns are about 15 feet away from the tank. I plan on adding exhaust fans in the canopy to blow the moist/warm air directly to the returns.
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Reef908
08/22/2017, 09:02 AM
Looks awesome! Makes my new 180 look like a nano lol...

JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 09:13 AM
Looking forward to this one. Great dimensions and great location for the tank. At 4 feet high, you'll have lots of room under the tank too which mine is unfortunately lacking. Question about the overflow though, in your third post you said you were going with a wide internal overflow box but later pictures look like you've gone external. Am I wrong and if not why did you decide on the change? I have an external coast to coast and absolutely love it.

I hope I have enough room for everything. I should be fine but it will be tight. I really wish I had a fish room and I tried to claim the closet that is located behind the tank but my wife wasn't having it.

Sorry I should of been more clear. The overflow is like the "ghost overflow". It's an internal/external and the I was referring to the internal box in the post.
I'll post a picture in just a second.

JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 09:19 AM
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This is actually a back up overflow just in case the first one springs any type of leak. The one that is currently on the tank is actually 4" wider and a bit taller to raise the waterline a bit more. I originally made a mistake with the first overflow (pictured above), the drain holes are on the wrong side because I was originally going to put my sump on the opposite side under the stand.


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JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 09:23 AM
Looks awesome! Makes my new 180 look like a nano lol...



Thanks bud lol! 180 is still a very big tank.


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JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 09:27 AM
I'm following along for inspiration.



My wife and I are currently house hunting and she has agreed to a huge main display that finally will get out of the basement!



My plan was a 500 gallon peninsula.



Haha that's the biggest hurdle to a 500 gallon. The significant others always give a hard time about big tanks but they secretly love them.


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JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 10:02 AM
Sump came in last night.

62"L x 28"W x 20"T
1/2" thick acrylic.
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The sump is a very basic design with large skimmer and larger than normal return section to accommodate back siphon when return pump(s) turn off. Since the tank is so wide and has a large surface area, the amount of water coming back into the sump will be more than usual for a tank this size.


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JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 10:13 AM
Some of the other equipment I already have

(4) Hamilton MH Cabo Sun reflectors
(4) 250 watt Hamilton m80 ballast
(4) radium bulbs. I will probably supplement MH light with LED in the future.
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Ecotech MP60qd's
I have 2 and will probably need 2 more at a minimum. I also have 2 Jebao PP-20's as backups

150gpd BRS 6 stage RO/DI

Tunze ATO

GHL Profilux 3.1 although I want to sell it and get the new Profilux 4

Waveline 12000 return pump. This won't be enough pump to push 3,000 gph after head. It will be a good backup though. I'm still unsure of what return pump I'm going to be running.

I ordered and I'm waiting on my Bubble King Deluxe 250 with rd3


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MarylandTang
08/22/2017, 10:30 AM
This is going to be a great build! Not too many of the "slightly" wide tanks out there!

Clowning_Around
08/22/2017, 10:44 AM
Looking good, wish I had the space and budget to go large

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JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 11:16 AM
This is going to be a great build! Not too many of the "slightly" wide tanks out there!

Thanks! It's going to be a pain in the *** for maintanence though. I can't reach 1/2 the tank unless I have tongs

JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 11:17 AM
Looking good, wish I had the space and budget to go large

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lol I'm way over my original budget. There's so many things I didn't factor in.

Clowning_Around
08/22/2017, 11:26 AM
lol I'm way over my original budget. There's so many things I didn't factor in.I here thats common, heck I spent way more than anticipated even on my supposedly simple 75g setup.

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ca1ore
08/22/2017, 11:28 AM
I don't see the Mission Impossible/Tom Cruise style harness for you to hang over the tank ....... Unless, of course, you are 8 feet tall :lol: OH, awesome looking tank BTW.

Clowning_Around
08/22/2017, 11:39 AM
I don't see the Mission Impossible/Tom Cruise style harness for you to hang over the tank ....... Unless, of course, you are 8 feet tall [emoji38] OH, awesome looking tank BTW. who needs to hang when you can be one and swim with the fishies daily...

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JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 11:51 AM
I don't see the Mission Impossible/Tom Cruise style harness for you to hang over the tank ....... Unless, of course, you are 8 feet tall :lol: OH, awesome looking tank BTW.



Lol I'm not 8 feet tall but I did have to bust out the 8 foot ladder to reach in. My little step stool doesn't cut it. Actually my wife was literally just nagging me as to why it's still not out of the living room.


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albano
08/22/2017, 11:57 AM
I don't see the Mission Impossible/Tom Cruise style harness for you to hang over the tank ....... Unless, of course, you are 8 feet tall

There's a lot of truth in that statement...my last tank was 8'x 40"X 27"h... and was on a high stand...very hard to work on and after starting to aquascape, I emptied tank and rebuilt stand 6" lower... My new tank is 6'x5', stand will not be over 36" and I will have supports built in side walls (of room) to allow a 'bridge' over the tank so that I can work from the top down.

JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 02:20 PM
There's a lot of truth in that statement...my last tank was 8'x 40"X 27"h... and was on a high stand...very hard to work on and after starting to aquascape, I emptied tank and rebuilt stand 6" lower... My new tank is 6'x5', stand will not be over 36" and I will have supports built in side walls (of room) to allow a 'bridge' over the tank so that I can work from the top down.



I know some maintenance tasks will be a pain in the *** but I also don't have a fish room and so everything has to go under the tank and space is definitely limited. In that regard the higher height of the stand is definitely necessary. There will be a fish room in the next house I buy because now I have to find space for water changing set up and qt tanks, etc.

Your tank is pretty dam close to this dimensions wise. I'm curious how you scaped your tank.


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JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 02:24 PM
@Ca1ore you have a Modular Marine overflow on your tank correct?

I think I remember seeing that. If so do you have a rubber gasket between the bulkheads outside overflow box and the nut to secure it. Obviously there is a gasket inside the actual tank where the pass through holes are but it seems that a second gasket would be necessary and it didn't come with anymore.


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ca1ore
08/22/2017, 02:39 PM
@Ca1ore you have a Modular Marine overflow on your tank correct?

I think I remember seeing that. If so do you have a rubber gasket between the bulkheads outside overflow box and the nut to secure it. Obviously there is a gasket inside the actual tank where the pass through holes are but it seems that a second gasket would be necessary and it didn't come with anymore.

I do, yes. Still dry though :lol: Gasket under the nut inside the rear box is not necessary. The gasket between the rear of the tank and the rear box is absolutely necessary, as is the gasket inside the tank (under the bulkhead flange).

Clowning_Around
08/22/2017, 03:18 PM
I do, yes. Still dry though [emoji38] Gasket under the nut inside the rear box is not necessary. The gasket between the rear of the tank and the rear box is absolutely necessary, as is the gasket inside the tank (under the bulkhead flange).Correct but more importantly the gasket under the nut is actually a bad thing. It actually makes the connection more susceptible to a leak. I know many want to over compensate designs in hobbies and then those ideas start floating around and become recommendations but sometimes to much of a good thing is bad, as in this case so to speak. You need to understand The mechanics of what's going on here. Hopefully this comes across and i didn't butcher it yup too much. The nut is simply pulling the flange/assembly which is already watertight/ one with the threaded cylindrical thru body. It pulls it so that it squeezes the gasket enough such that it compresses and seals too the glass, the next series is a repeat of thus sandwhiching effect but on the last position (negative side) theres no thing to seal given its already sealed on the positive side. The nut while tightened engages via threads it will not seal off to the body of the bulkhead. Placing a gasket behind its shoulder even if tightened to the point of squishing it will still not result in a true water tight connection given theres no seal at the body despite if you hapen to get it tight enough at the glass face (which by the way of thou do you are overtightening and risk breakage and or leaks again) Do what actually happens again assuming you are not over tightening, just the opposite occurs. It will restrict the nut from spinning sooner with that spongy rubber gasket in the way resulting in a loser overall connection even possibly a leak at the other seals by having used it.....

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JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 03:53 PM
@ca1ore & clowning_around

This is exactly what I needed to know. The bulkheads only came with one gasket each and I knew that I needed one inside the tank but was pretty certain there should be a second one. I just didn't know if it needed to be between rear overflow box & nut or between back of tank glass and overflow box. I also know not to over tighten. And by the way you didn't butcher it all bud. I appreciate both of you.

Thank you guys.


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Clowning_Around
08/22/2017, 03:56 PM
@ca1ore & clowning_around

This is exactly what I needed to know. The bulkheads only came with one gasket each and I knew that I needed one inside the tank but was pretty certain there should be a second one. I just didn't know if it needed to be between rear overflow box & nut or between back of tank glass and overflow box. I also know not to over tighten. And by the way you didn't butcher it all bud. I appreciate both of you.

Thank you guys.


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JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 03:59 PM
Well good news. I was just emailed that my Bubble King Deluxe is on its way from Germany. Aquarium Specialty should receive it sometime next week.


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bk.
08/22/2017, 04:00 PM
I'm dead. This is ridiculously cool.

JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 04:20 PM
I'm dead. This is ridiculously cool.

Haha thanks bud. I'm not going to lie, I have a big smile on my face everytime I see the tank.

albano
08/22/2017, 04:30 PM
sorry, wrong pic

albano
08/22/2017, 04:35 PM
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Just wondering why you doubled up the second 2x10 on the right?

JaySchulz
08/22/2017, 05:00 PM
Just wondering why you doubled up the second 2x10 on the right?



The 3/4 plywood was seamed right there and I wanted the two boards to have a solid contact point on each edge of the 2x10 instead of splitting one 2x10
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You can see the seam in the photo.

I'm also planning on getting a DaStaCo Calcium Reactor and the one for my tank size is I believe 20"L x 14"W x 42"T. That particular span could not be in the same increments to fit the calcium reactor in that section.

I know that glass tanks are distributed to the corners of the stand and the middle spans are not that important, but at a minimum it can't hurt and i think the added rigidity is probably a good thing.


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ca1ore
08/22/2017, 09:42 PM
@ca1ore & clowning_around

This is exactly what I needed to know. The bulkheads only came with one gasket each and I knew that I needed one inside the tank but was pretty certain there should be a second one. I just didn't know if it needed to be between rear overflow box & nut or between back of tank glass and overflow box. I also know not to over tighten. And by the way you didn't butcher it all bud. I appreciate both of you.

Thank you guys.


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Is your MM overflow one of the newer designs, with the removable weir? If so, then the single gasket should go between the outside back of the tank and the rear box. Since the mechanism by which the internal skimmer box is attached to the bulkheads is not completely water tight, there is actually no reason for a gasket under the flange.

dimasv
08/23/2017, 06:47 AM
Amazing build!

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Redcar802
08/23/2017, 08:14 AM
Wow that's a dope tank bro

JaySchulz
08/23/2017, 10:46 AM
Is your MM overflow one of the newer designs, with the removable weir? If so, then the single gasket should go between the outside back of the tank and the rear box. Since the mechanism by which the internal skimmer box is attached to the bulkheads is not completely water tight, there is actually no reason for a gasket under the flange.



Interesting. Yea it is the new design. Yea I just saw another thread where you and Modular Marine were discussing this.

Not saying it's wrong but having no gasket between the inside glass and flange seems weird. With no gasket water will go into the pass through holes. The gasket I guess will stop any water leaks though. Is there a problem with using 2 gaskets?


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JaySchulz
08/23/2017, 11:49 AM
@dimasv @redcar802 thanks guys.


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ca1ore
08/23/2017, 01:06 PM
With no gasket water will go into the pass through holes. The gasket I guess will stop any water leaks though. Is there a problem with using 2 gaskets?

With the new design, water is going to seep through the bulkheads anyhow (at least as understand it based on not actually having seen one of the removable designs), so I think the logic is that the gasket is therefore unnecessary. It's actually the reason I chose the older design where the bulkheads do seal (though the skimmer box not removable) - otherwise I think you have to size the sump based on the possibility, at least, that the tank can overflow down to the point of the drain pipes in the external box. I see no issues with using an extra gasket though. Just don't use one directly under the nut as it tends to deform making proper tightening more difficult. The gasket between the tank and the rear box will prevent any water form leaking out of the system.

xoomer
08/23/2017, 02:21 PM
Whoa, that is WIDE!

Great choice, great placement.

Tagging along.

Zacktosterone
08/23/2017, 08:08 PM
That's Friggen cool! Subbed

McPuff
08/24/2017, 06:39 AM
I fully support this build. :0)

Really cool tank. You have so many options for aquascaping! What kinds of fish are planning to keep?

reefmutt
08/24/2017, 11:16 AM
Very cool build!
Between the BK and the dastaco, I see you are doing this RIGHT!
Not to mention the addition of the dehumidifying system..
Really looking forward to the scape.
So much potential..
Reminds me of Steve Weist's tank for dimensions..

rus15.rb
08/24/2017, 11:22 AM
Holy reef balls! This is going to be good!

Life's a reef

salty_boris
08/24/2017, 12:13 PM
Following along from across the pond... Not much wider than your new build to be fair :)

silentstorm
08/24/2017, 01:19 PM
Nice dimensions ... did you plan the house with this tank in mind ? lol... fits the location well.

RCS82
08/24/2017, 08:44 PM
I'm slightly jealous as well haha. That is an amazing tank and looking forward to seeing this progress.
Don't forget about taking lots of pics haha :)

flakey
08/25/2017, 12:25 AM
wow, why kind of concessions did you make to get such a big tank???!!! looks great

JaySchulz
08/25/2017, 12:47 AM
With the new design, water is going to seep through the bulkheads anyhow (at least as understand it based on not actually having seen one of the removable designs), so I think the logic is that the gasket is therefore unnecessary. It's actually the reason I chose the older design where the bulkheads do seal (though the skimmer box not removable) - otherwise I think you have to size the sump based on the possibility, at least, that the tank can overflow down to the point of the drain pipes in the external box. I see no issues with using an extra gasket though. Just don't use one directly under the nut as it tends to deform making proper tightening more difficult. The gasket between the tank and the rear box will prevent any water form leaking out of the system.

Yea I think I'm going to use another gasket. As you said I don't see anything wrong with it. Though by looking at the overflow box, I don't see how the removable weir box would make any kind of impact on why or why not you wouldn't put a gasket behind the flange. I'll post pictures of it tomorrow and you can tell me what you think. Maybe I'm missing something. Regardless I think I'll be fine.

Whoa, that is WIDE!

Great choice, great placement.

Tagging along.

Thanks bud.i got pretty lucky with the placement. I'm in real Estate and look at a lot of homes and I don't see a lot of homes that this tank would work without wasting a room. Well maybe not a waste to us haha.

That's Friggen cool! Subbed

Thanks bud.

JaySchulz
08/25/2017, 12:55 AM
I fully support this build. :0)



Really cool tank. You have so many options for aquascaping! What kinds of fish are planning to keep?



Haha I appreciate he support.

I'm most excited about creating the aquascape and I spent a few hours on it right before the tank came in but I couldn't make anything that I felt was worthy and figured it was time to step back and take a break from it. I haven't gave it another shot yet. Here is a few things I made. I also didn't have all my nylon rods and glue at the time to make cool overhangs or arches.
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I plan on keep quite a bit of fish. A big mix of different species but a few that I'm most excited about

Achilles Tang
Morish Idol
Fowleri Tang

I would really like to find a nice hybrid Tigerpyge (spelling)

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JaySchulz
08/25/2017, 01:09 AM
Very cool build!
Between the BK and the dastaco, I see you are doing this RIGHT!
Not to mention the addition of the dehumidifying system..
Really looking forward to the scape.
So much potential..
Reminds me of Steve Weist's tank for dimensions..

Haha it's funny because Im sometimes cheap and I keep looking for things to go cheaper on but then I stop myself and tell myself to just go ahead and do it right. Even if that means a slower build.

The dehumidifier is ****ing me off currently. I don't think it's working properly.

Steve Weist's tank is actually my main inspiration for what I'm trying to achieve. But a peninsula instead of the one viewing angle.

Holy reef balls! This is going to be good!

Life's a reef

Haha thanks

Following along from across the pond... Not much wider than your new build to be fair :)

If you don't mind me asking. Where is across the pond?

Nice dimensions ... did you plan the house with this tank in mind ? lol... fits the location well.

No but I got lucky with the location on this house. I'm in real estate and I don't see a lot of homes that would accommodate a very wide tank without actually taking over a whole room. I was fortunate that my entry way works out with my deminsions.

I'm slightly jealous as well haha. That is an amazing tank and looking forward to seeing this progress.
Don't forget about taking lots of pics haha :)

Im trying to document as much as possible. I'll keep posting pics though.

JaySchulz
08/25/2017, 01:30 AM
wow, why kind of concessions did you make to get such a big tank???!!! looks great



Ha let me go down the list. And excuse the mess. We are normally very clean people but we're still moving in (for the last 6 months) and we've been doing so much remodeling that I've given up on keeping things clean. Not to mention multiple leaks from a shitty roof replacement. I had two big holes in my ceiling for the last two weeks. Actually worked out great because of the electrical lines I had to run to the garage for the tank.

But to get to that concession list lol

-paint colors downstairs. I wanted white. She wanted grey.
-new pantry (needs to be painted)
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/781fe80869f9bf2b7f1bbf769251f198.jpg
-new bench seat at bay window
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/16eab7c3647e985f1aa65a3c2e223fc6.jpg
-we're going with her flooring choice
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/5059d3729189226dbb6016807702eee4.png
-I wanted shiplap on the tv wall but she wanted it on the stair wall
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-she picked the wainscoting which I acted like I didn't like but I don't mind. I like the simple look. Atleast she agreed to it being 48" tall so that it was the same height as the fish tank stand. It will make the fish tank stand look like it was built into the surroundinghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/f5d65537deb113331e5d243845636967.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/5362307204feab78955c0969107c76dc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/0c6d7d622e10bd70eb7a4347ede8e69c.jpg

I'm sure there will be more concessions as I go. She uses the fish thank as her trump card.


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dave.m
08/25/2017, 02:52 AM
The furniture is all facing the wrong way. It should be focused on the tank.

Dave.M

ca1ore
08/25/2017, 07:14 AM
Yea I think I'm going to use another gasket. As you said I don't see anything wrong with it. Though by looking at the overflow box, I don't see how the removable weir box would make any kind of impact on why or why not you wouldn't put a gasket behind the flange. I'll post pictures of it tomorrow and you can tell me what you think. Maybe I'm missing something. Regardless I think I'll be fine.

Like I said, I have not seen the new design in person; but I understood that the skimmer box has PVC pipe stubs that extend out from the back and slip into the bulkheads on the back of the tank. Seemed to me that this would not be a 100% water tight connection - though perhaps any leakage would be so small as to be immaterial.

I see no downside to using a second gasket, in fact, were it me I think I would also :lol:

Zacktosterone
08/25/2017, 07:51 AM
I would personally always make sure that any scape structure has negative space facing the viewing oanels. And any rock walls are on the side of the tank that people can't see like against a wall. (negative space being an open view with less rock near the viewing panels

reefmutt
08/25/2017, 08:08 AM
Ha let me go down the list. And excuse the mess. We are normally very clean people but we're still moving in (for the last 6 months) and we've been doing so much remodeling that I've given up on keeping things clean. Not to mention multiple leaks from a shitty roof replacement. I had two big holes in my ceiling for the last two weeks. Actually worked out great because of the electrical lines I had to run to the garage for the tank.

But to get to that concession list lol

-paint colors downstairs. I wanted white. She wanted grey.
-new pantry (needs to be painted)
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/781fe80869f9bf2b7f1bbf769251f198.jpg
-new bench seat at bay window
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/16eab7c3647e985f1aa65a3c2e223fc6.jpg
-we're going with her flooring choice
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/5059d3729189226dbb6016807702eee4.png
-I wanted shiplap on the tv wall but she wanted it on the stair wall
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/259cb24994ddc51cbdc1c57fb9fa8ed4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/59d77dc1b1fb478882f0acbe6b3b94f4.jpg
-she picked the wainscoting which I acted like I didn't like but I don't mind. I like the simple look. Atleast she agreed to it being 48" tall so that it was the same height as the fish tank stand. It will make the fish tank stand look like it was built into the surroundinghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/f5d65537deb113331e5d243845636967.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/5362307204feab78955c0969107c76dc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/0c6d7d622e10bd70eb7a4347ede8e69c.jpg

I'm sure there will be more concessions as I go. She uses the fish thank as her trump card.


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Buddy, in my books you are getting away with murder.
If my wife let me put in a tank like that, I'd give all the trump cards her heart desired...
Not to mention, she has made some pretty good choices so far..

Good luck with the coming storm!

ca1ore
08/25/2017, 09:12 AM
Pick the fights worth having ..... concede everything else! When we moved into our current house, I got the basement to do with as I pleased; she got the rest of the house. Fish room, big tank, home theater ..... who cares about the rest.

JaySchulz
08/26/2017, 05:08 PM
@reefmutt I know I can't complain. She is very understanding and she enjoys reef tanks as much as I do. She just doesn't like the maintenance.

@ca1ore I have pretty much conceded on everything else. I do wish I had a home theatre but I don't have enough rooms. Is your tank in the basement?



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JaySchulz
08/26/2017, 05:35 PM
Well since we have been stuck at home today because of hurricane harvey, I decided to start on the plumbing.

Plumbing will be a BeanAnimal set up with 1.5" pvc drains. I decided to use sch80 pvc instead of sch40 because of its extra strength. It might be overkill but it makes me feel better about the plumbings longevity.

Emergency drain is about an 1.5" from top of overflow box. Siphon is about half way down the box and the open is in the middle. I made my first mistake by not having the drain holes separated enough to have enough space for elbows on siphon and open. The siphon drain will just have to be without an elbow. I also had to cut the bulkheads shorter (about 1/2") to accommodate room for the drain lines. If I were to redo the overflow box I would of spaced out the holes and kept them away from the bulkheads.
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I went with uniseals for the drain holes instead of bulkheads and I'd be very surprised if they ever leak. Definitely a bit of pain to get the plumbing through the holes. Not a huge deal but I've also realized how difficult it is to decide how high I want my drain pipes with the overflow box being black.
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JaySchulz
08/27/2017, 11:16 AM
Stayed up late last night and got the dry fitting for the drains done. Although not visible each drain has a union above the header. I'm pretty hopeful that with only (2) 45 degree turns I won't have issues purging the air.

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JaySchulz
08/28/2017, 04:35 PM
Trying to aquascape today. I can't make anything I like. I think this the most frustrating part of the reef build. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170828/374003d73530444d5fc4bba0fe56cf7f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170828/129535295a54a38383195f70b9111a3c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170828/afbda479b932e863b8d113e7f709444d.jpg


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fishcatdog66
08/31/2017, 11:19 PM
What if you took the first image, cemented and rodded it together,turned it upside down, added support under where necessary and then added some shelf pieces on top for mounting sps or whatever? Just a crazy thought:rollface:

ca1ore
09/02/2017, 09:28 PM
That flamingo is going to look awesome in the tank .......

ca1ore
09/02/2017, 09:30 PM
@reefmutt I know I can't complain. She is very understanding and she enjoys reef tanks as much as I do. She just doesn't like the maintenance.

@ca1ore I have pretty much conceded on everything else. I do wish I had a home theatre but I don't have enough rooms. Is your tank in the basement?



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Tank is in the FM, but all the messy bits are in the fish room in the basement.

cFloor
09/03/2017, 01:37 AM
Very impressive build and the house is looking great as well! I like the first scape in post #59 minus the middle island. You have some other good ones too, I'm sure you'll get it the way you like.

mike810
09/03/2017, 06:10 PM
Great build!! Just a couple notes about the overflow. I had a toothless weir on my 240g tank and I lost some prized fishes due to them being sucked into the overflow and dying. Those fish were expensive too!!!!

I believe I read that you have the removable weir. I have the same with my synergy reef overflow. They're not water tight so plan for some drainage from the tank down or close to the removable weirs when the return pump is off.

I must have glossed over it but which BK and Dastaco model did you get? I have a Deluxe 250 and love it. I also have the Dastaco A3, my first calcium reactor and it was a breeze to dial in.