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Bogdan Marin
08/31/2017, 09:23 AM
Hey! Can anyone please help me identifying these guys?
Are they reef safe?
They are from the Aegean sea.
Many thanks in advance.

Bogdan Marin
08/31/2017, 09:24 AM
And the rest of the photos.

ginpang
08/31/2017, 11:16 AM
Hi my guesses would be :

Blennius tentacularis
And lipophrys dalmaticus

The third looks to me like a baby grouper or snapper!? Colour evolution of big predators really isn't my forté.

Maybe someone else has a better idea [emoji362]


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Moto_fish
09/04/2017, 01:43 PM
The last ones are awesome; if they dont get gigantic

Chasmodes
09/06/2017, 04:47 PM
IMHO, my guesses, filtering Fishbase to the Aegean Sea, and I'm not an expert by any means, so it's an opinion. My guess is that to truly ID them properly, you'd need to do fin ray counts, check teeth, gill rakers and all of that stuff.

The first blenny looks like some of the photos of Parablennius zvonimiri on Fishbase. Especially if the fins were more red than your pics show. The cirri are small on your fish, much like P. zvonimiri. However, it could be a female or juvenile P. tentacularis. A similar Atlantic blenny, Hypsoblennius hentz, has large cirri especially in the males that look just like the ones in P. tentacularis. The female H. hentz also have smaller branched cirri. However, the coloration leads me to think P. zvonimiri.

The second blenny looks like the photos of Parablennius sanguinolentus (Google images through Fishbase). The white dashes and overall spotted coloration, head shape, lack of (or tiny) cirri, lead me to that opinion.

I'll take a stab at the bass. Brown comber (Serranus hepatus)?

As far as reef safe or not...no clue. I know that the Atlantic Hypsoblennius hentz is omnivorous and loves meaty foods. I'd be cautious about putting them in with any expensive shrimp or crabs. I don't know how they'd do with corals. Your blennies look fairly similar in morphology. The comber would probably eat shrimp, crabs and small fish, but probably not coral.

That said, it would make for a nice Aegean Sea biotope tank. Those fish are all very entertaining and interesting. Cool finds!

ThRoewer
09/06/2017, 08:22 PM
The "grouper" is Serranus scriba. Back in Germany I had one of those. They are predators but don't get very large. They are also simultaneous hermaphrodites that can under certain conditions spawn successfully without a partner.

Correction: it's Serranus hepatus (http://species-identification.org/species.php?species_group=fnam&menuentry=soorten&id=1880&tab=beschrijving)

ahmed.fayaz
09/07/2017, 03:57 AM
Can somebody ID this one for me as well. Sorry to post in this thread since I don't want to create a new one for this? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170907/08bda5a923f0a3ebee0c70b7d2e78cf9.jpg

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ThRoewer
09/07/2017, 11:51 AM
Can somebody ID this one for me as well. Sorry to post in this thread since I don't want to create a new one for this? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170907/08bda5a923f0a3ebee0c70b7d2e78cf9.jpg

Sent from my BBB100-2 using TapatalkIt's a Damselfish. Would have to look up which species exactly, but it might be one of those that get big, mean and ugly.

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nereefpat
09/07/2017, 11:56 AM
Pomacentrus chrysurus, I believe.

ThRoewer
09/07/2017, 12:17 PM
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That said, it would make for a nice Aegean Sea biotope tank. Those fish are all very entertaining and interesting. Cool finds!

There is a very cool blenny in the Mediterranean Sea: Tripterygion tripteronotum (Red-Black Triplefin)
http://www.agefotostock.com/age/en/Stock-Images/Rights-Managed/RDC-ad_20342

There is also a yellow variety: Tripterygion delaisi

One thing to know about Mediterranean blennies is that male and female of one species can look so different in shape and coloration that you take them for different species. On a class trip to Catalonia back in the 80s I collected a couple of blennies and brought them home. I thought I had just single individuals of different species, but a day after putting them into a tank one of them (the male) was guarding a nest. The possibl female looked nothing like the male. A few days later I caught them spawning again which confirmed who the female was.

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Chasmodes
09/07/2017, 03:43 PM
There is a very cool blenny in the Mediterranean Sea: Tripterygion tripteronotum (Red-Black Triplefin)
http://www.agefotostock.com/age/en/Stock-Images/Rights-Managed/RDC-ad_20342



I actually had one of these for a while when I was new to saltwater aquariums in the late 70s. I added it to my 50g tank that had a bluehead wrasse in there, and the wrasse killed it before I could do anything about it. I would have traded the wrasse in for store credit, but, too late, the damage was done. I haven't seen one since. They're stunningly beautiful.