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Zagzoo71
09/11/2017, 07:33 PM
Must be the theme all of a sudden, hahaha!

So, while I am waiting for my tank to recover from marine velvet. I decide as well to turn my 180g in the wall to a clownfish harem tank.

Tank has been fallow for 3 weeks.. I had 1 survivor that I couldn't catch for 2 months. Tank has been up and running now for 6 months.

For exporting nutrients I run a skimmer and a algae scrubber (11x10 screen)

The plan is for 40 clownfish from the same clutch, just trying to decide which species to go with.

Since i have till 11/1/17 before I can add fish.. started dropping BTA's in the tank. With 40 clown fish.. I am gonna start out with 20-24 BTA's. The plan is to get them in the tank and growing till them.

4/24 BTA's!!

The video shows 1 RBTA from the weekend, and today I trade some coral for 2 rbta and 1 bright green BTA. Gonna make my aquascape look like skittles!

https://youtu.be/V9hY5JBH7YQ

Here is a pic from the today's additions:

Zagzoo71
09/16/2017, 06:41 PM
BTA Update...

Well... 3/4 of the first BTA's stayed put for one week, getting ready to possibly add 10 - 12 more in the next few days. One of the 2 new rbta's is mia.. been missing for 8hrs.. so i guess 3/4 staying put were i placed them isnt bad to start.

Zagzoo71
09/17/2017, 07:43 PM
9 GBTA's into the tank now.. grand total of 13 BTA's. 9 green, 1 bright neon green, and 3 RBTA's. Have some rainbows on reserve for next months frag meet.

And the gbta's have started their evening walk to see were they are happy!

D-Nak
09/18/2017, 11:15 AM
Have you decided on which species of clownfish?

I guess it's a little late to recommend not going with BTAs, but if you're planning to have ocellaris or percula, having either magnifica or gigantea anemones makes for a nice display. Once settled in, IME both mags and gigs don't wander much, unlike BTAs. They're both difficult to find and need to be QTed, but after that point, I consider them very hardy anemone despite what you may read.

One BTA in your MP40 could take out your whole tank. 20 of them is asking for trouble. I've gotten a large gig stuck in an MP40 and it actually stopped the wetside from spinning. The result was an injured nem (it eventually recovered) but my point is that it didn't nuke the entire tank because the nem wasn't turned into a puree.

Zagzoo71
09/18/2017, 01:04 PM
I got foam covers on order for my power heads to keep them out. Still deciding on what species of clowns to go with.

Zagzoo71
09/23/2017, 01:38 PM
Little update.. been about 1 week since I added 9 GBTA's (7 made it) and added 1 RBTA past thursday. Redid some rock work to get a few gbta to move into view.. everyone basically settled in and happy.. no one has moved it last 4 days.

Youtube Link:

ClownFish Harem.. 13 BTA's (https://youtu.be/oVVeI9DiJwg)

Zagzoo71
09/27/2017, 02:43 PM
can I mix any other nem with bta's? or will it be a sting fest if they get to close?

Zagzoo71
10/20/2017, 01:29 PM
Well... Little update... seems all the BTA's want to be on one side of the tank this week. The biggest gbta decided it will just shove itself in front of the others. Next weekend still gonna be picking up around 12 rainbow bta's.. then in 2 weeks 40 lightening clowns!!

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Kinetic
10/20/2017, 02:09 PM
Looks really great. It's kind of crazy how much your BTAs are moving. Do you ever wonder if conditions in the tank aren't right for them to settle down?

I have little experience with BTAs moving around (I've had a few in the past, but they attached and stay put pretty quickly). I always assumed that if they're happy, they'll stay put. If they're wandering so much, maybe they're looking for something they don't have.

Your flow looks pretty strong. What about lighting? Or do you think all the movement is totally normal?

My current rainbow BTA didn't move for 3 days, then wandered the entirety of the tank (even face planted on my mesh cover for my gyre pump, good thing that thing was on minimal flow) for about a week. It stayed put for a week, and now it moved 5 inches. So maybe they just keep walking forever?

Lightning maroons will be amazing. I like the cuteness of ocellaris, but the lightning maroons look incredible.

Zagzoo71
10/20/2017, 02:20 PM
Looks really great. It's kind of crazy how much your BTAs are moving. Do you ever wonder if conditions in the tank aren't right for them to settle down?

I have little experience with BTAs moving around (I've had a few in the past, but they attached and stay put pretty quickly). I always assumed that if they're happy, they'll stay put. If they're wandering so much, maybe they're looking for something they don't have.

Your flow looks pretty strong. What about lighting? Or do you think all the movement is totally normal?

My current rainbow BTA didn't move for 3 days, then wandered the entirety of the tank (even face planted on my mesh cover for my gyre pump, good thing that thing was on minimal flow) for about a week. It stayed put for a week, and now it moved 5 inches. So maybe they just keep walking forever?

Lightning maroons will be amazing. I like the cuteness of ocellaris, but the lightning maroons look incredible.

Well.. I been playing around with the flows.. trying to calm some of it down (probably why a few have moved... some have moved into the strong flow and stayed there.. some move to an area with hardly any flow.) I have the Jabeo 40 size power heads. THink I am gonna get the 25 size version. My current ones are on power setting 2 and on the pulse slowest setting. I have also redid my LED settings.. had too much whites were the bta's colors were off.

D-Nak
10/20/2017, 02:29 PM
Well... Little update... seems all the BTA's want to be on one side of the tank this week. The biggest gbta decided it will just shove itself in front of the others. Next weekend still gonna be picking up around 12 rainbow bta's.. then in 2 weeks 40 lightening clowns!!

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I'm sure you've done your research, but I feel the need to reiterate that maroon clowns are extremely aggressive. Even juveniles are known to fight with each other, so much so that breeders are forced to separate them a lot earlier than with other species. Having lots of BTAs will hopefully ease the aggression, but I think you may end up with losses.

Zagzoo71
10/20/2017, 02:46 PM
I'm sure you've done your research, but I feel the need to reiterate that maroon clowns are extremely aggressive. Even juveniles are known to fight with each other, so much so that breeders are forced to separate them a lot earlier than with other species. Having lots of BTAs will hopefully ease the aggression, but I think you may end up with losses.

They were piscaso percula's type (sorry might have my spieces mixed up).. I know they were not maroon clowns.

D-Nak
10/20/2017, 03:01 PM
They were piscaso percula's type (sorry might have my spieces mixed up).. I know they were not maroon clowns.

LOL okay gotcha. Picassos will be fine together. Lightnings not so much. :lol2:

Zagzoo71
10/22/2017, 07:38 PM
Here is the picassos I am getting 50 of:

<img src='https://i.imgur.com/c7zIVnD.jpg' />

Techhnyne
10/23/2017, 03:28 AM
Thats a lot of bta!! Haha

Zagzoo71
10/23/2017, 05:18 PM
well it looks like I will not be adding 12 rainbow bta's this weekend. Vendor over sold at a swap meet last weekend. But, the good news is probably be getting 4-5 rainbows.. and 1 is the mother rainbow (were all the clones were coming from ) and she is 12" across!!

Soo.. little change of direction.. since all the bta's like the right half of my tank, ill keep putting them there. On the far left side of the tank putting a saddle carpet in tomorrow!!!

Zagzoo71
10/24/2017, 06:16 PM
Well finally one of my rbta split!! First one ever I owned that split: Total now 14 bta's!!

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5LhrWE5nEnybEZDeGRLcS05dmc

Zagzoo71
10/25/2017, 07:18 PM
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Mongo77
10/31/2017, 03:24 PM
Can't wait to see the tank with the clowns added. Nice choice of clowns!

Zagzoo71
10/31/2017, 07:28 PM
Another update: Added 3 more rainbow BTA's, 2 in the 3-4" range, 1 around 8-10"

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sunkim622
11/01/2017, 12:33 PM
I had a friend who's darwin clownfish started breeding so he tried raising them. After a couple tries he had probably 80 baby clownfish and nowhere to put them. I had a huge 4" darwin in my 85 gallon tank so I got rid of all my other fish and turned it into a harem tank by taking 50 of his. It was awesome with the one huge female and 50 babies swimming around.

Keep this up! It looks like it's coming around nicely. Good luck!

Zagzoo71
11/18/2017, 05:33 PM
Well today waa the day!! I picked up my clowns from the local breeder. 55 clownfish to be exact, here is the make up"

- helmet perc
- platium perc
- picasso perc
- darwin percs

Accilimated for almoat 2hrs, 1 darwin didnt make it.

Enjoy!

https://youtu.be/QeptrTgWp_0

Kinetic
11/19/2017, 02:22 AM
Wow they're all in the middle. Good things those BTA's are well established already, having so many clowns smashing themselves into it would be pretty traumatic =)

Looks great! So many different sizes too!

Good luck with all of them! Keep us updated.

Silfer
11/19/2017, 05:51 AM
I'm doing a 2ft cube with a small clown harem too, probably 10 baby clowns.

From speaking to others and my own personal experience of 21 Btas right now if you want them to bubble and stay that way you need low flow and strong lighting close to the water line.

My bubble tips are all nicely bubbled and I have a single vortech mp10 qd on lagoon mode. Once a day I stick it on NTP for an hour or so.

eppersonm16
11/22/2017, 04:12 PM
What kind of lighting are you running and at what intensity and spectrum?
thanks,

clorox
11/22/2017, 05:49 PM
This is cool.
From personal experience, having had 20 clowns with gigantea anemones, try to get bubble tips as large as you can find. Those 55 baby clowns will grow to about 1.5~2" pretty quickly and will be constantly 'rubbing' 24/7 on their hosts.

You will notice over time that tentacles in the center of the anemones will begin wearing out and disappear due to the constant activity of the fish. If this is a long-term plan it is something to keep in mind. Your approach is correct though, giving the clowns lots of anemones to roam around is the way to go.

Zagzoo71
11/24/2017, 03:05 PM
Well finally the clownfish have spread out across the tank. Now all 19 bta's are hosting!

https://youtu.be/7SWOyPGZm_E

Zagzoo71
11/24/2017, 03:15 PM
What kind of lighting are you running and at what intensity and spectrum?
thanks,

Im running 3x 165w black box LED's on a 10 hr cycle. 2.5 hours 100% blues.. then 5hrs 50% white & 100% blues, then 2.5 hrs 100% blues.

moneymm
11/25/2017, 07:47 PM
Well finally the clownfish have spread out across the tank. Now all 19 bta's are hosting!

https://youtu.be/7SWOyPGZm_E

this is an awesome tank.

Esh1
12/02/2017, 09:53 AM
any update on the 50 clowns? still in the q tank?

Zagzoo71
12/03/2017, 07:25 PM
any update on the 50 clowns? still in the q tank?

My 180g is the q tank! I went 120days since marine velvet wiped out my tank. So the tank has been empty. But yes all 55 clowns doing well.. they are spread out across entire tank and all 19 bta;s are hosting.

Zagzoo71
12/07/2017, 02:20 PM
Almost month into the Harem tank, a few updates. Really no aggression to report, dont see any nipped fins or anything. Clowns are now spread out thru entire tank, pretty much in 2 groups now. My algae scrubber I am cleaning 1 of the 6" x 10" about every 6-7 days with full growth (1 screen gets cleaned on wednesday, the other screen on saturday. Clean skimmer cup 1x a week. Still doing 1 water change a month, 30g out of the complete 300g system. And I add a goby to "work" on cleaning the sand both.. might need to upsize the cleanup screw.

sal. 1.026
Ph 8.0
Nitrites = 0
Nitrates = 0
ammon = 0

temp = 79.5

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Kinetic
12/07/2017, 02:33 PM
Cool goby! What is it? Watchman?

I do see aggression, but I don't think it's anything to worry about yet nor does it look bad. it's when they go head to head and size each other up. You see it in the beginning and in the back anemone.

I suspect each anemone will have a dominant clown, and any that get kicked out can probably wander to a different one. At some point they should settle down into a good group with bickering here and there.

Looking good!