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Zacktosterone
09/22/2017, 02:21 PM
I've got a need for a return pump for a total system volume of 280 gallons at 6' of head pressure. it needs to be internal. any help would be appreciated! this means that the pump has to put out 2800 gph at 6' if I want to achieve 10x turn over. (triton method)

smoothmove
09/22/2017, 03:06 PM
Try a Jebao DCT15000. Good DC pump. I have the 12000 for 2 90's. So far love it.

jda
09/22/2017, 03:07 PM
Get a Laguna or Fluval that has your flow requirements. They will last a decade or two and are low wattage draw for actually doing a lot of work - confirmed, not just stated on a box out of china.

Lsufan
09/22/2017, 04:41 PM
I love my fluval sp6. Its reliable, powerful & as quiet as u will find for a a/c pump. I know I wouldn't trade it for anything even close to its price range.

Zacktosterone
09/22/2017, 05:56 PM
Try a Jebao DCT15000. Good DC pump. I have the 12000 for 2 90's. So far love it.

It's head pressure stength is extremely weak. It won't even hit 6 feet and keep half it's flow

matt1444
09/22/2017, 06:03 PM
Love my lacuna max-flohttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170922/3a65c442f71064130fb904443dd3890c.jpg

matt1444
09/22/2017, 06:04 PM
Sorry laguna

Zacktosterone
09/22/2017, 06:06 PM
What a weird pump. Never seen one before. Can you send me a link to the strongest max flo?

Vinny Kreyling
09/23/2017, 09:44 AM
http://www.lagunaponds.com/en_us/laguna-max-flo-4280-waterfall-filter-pump/

The pump comes out of the cage but will need a base plate to stand upright.
Basically a Fluval pump but with different bearings.

Zacktosterone
09/23/2017, 10:43 AM
http://www.lagunaponds.com/en_us/laguna-max-flo-4280-waterfall-filter-pump/

The pump comes out of the cage but will need a base plate to stand upright.
Basically a Fluval pump but with different bearings.

Where do you get a base plate?? Also Is this pump quiet is something that's a big deal. And lastly... What are the imensions of this pump?

slief
09/23/2017, 10:52 AM
Where do you get a base plate?? Also Is this pump quiet is something that's a big deal. And lastly... What are the imensions of this pump?

You don't for that motor. The base plates typically used for those blocks go between the volute and motor and use a different volute and impeller. Those pumps include the Red Dragons which are heavily modified versions that start out with a custom version of that block and get an anti lime bypass added to them for cooling of the magnet and impeller and then a custom CNC'd volute along with a custom titanium impeller.
https://royalexclusiv.net/en/flow-delivery-pumps/salt-sea-water/red-dragon-r-1-vs08-pumps-6-5m-17m/red-dragon-r-1-flow-pumps-vs08-akb/red-dragon-pumpe-17m-vs08-anti-lime-bypass.html

And the ATB Flowstars which again, uses a special base that goes between the volute and motor as well as a special machined volute and modified impeller. Keep in mind that neither of the two mentioned pumps are anything like their Laguna Maxflo counterparts other than using a block that is "based" on that of the Laguna.
https://www.reefspecialty.com/atb-flowstar-4200-pump.html

The Fluval SP6 uses the same block but it has a cover over the block that includes a base as well. Your better choice would be a Fluval SP6.

slief
09/23/2017, 11:18 AM
You may infact be able to use the Fluval SP series base on that motor. Only issue is that it may need to be screwed into place though a bit of epoxy would certainly hold it. Even so, I would still go with the Fluval as it has a ceramic bearing that is better suited for salt water use. There are some other minor differences between the Laguna version and the Fluval as well.
Here is the SP series base.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00K7IXRFU/ref=asc_df_B00K7IXRFU5183319/

Zacktosterone
09/23/2017, 11:48 AM
Man this is complicated lol. I can use 2 pumps of I really need to because it's in a back room. Has anyone used the sicce high flow 16? I just want a pump that is around 400 bucks I can pay more of need be. But not 800 that will do 2800 gph at 6'

slief
09/23/2017, 12:21 PM
Man this is complicated lol. I can use 2 pumps of I really need to because it's in a back room. Has anyone used the sicce high flow 16? I just want a pump that is around 400 bucks I can pay more of need be. But not 800 that will do 2800 gph at 6'

You could always order both the Laguna 4280 and the fluval base from Amazon and if you can't use the base, return both.

jda
09/23/2017, 01:19 PM
I just lay my Lagunas down. I have Fluvals as well, but they don't come in as many sizes and the SP6 is not as powerful as the larger Laguna pumps. They are both long lasting and super quiet.

I just went to the equipment room and a Fluval SP4 base fit perfectly on a 960 GPH Laguna. ...no idea if this applies to other pumps, but it might.

Zacktosterone
09/23/2017, 01:23 PM
I just lay my Lagunas down. I have Fluvals as well, but they don't come in as many sizes and the SP6 is not as powerful as the larger Laguna pumps. They are both long lasting and super quiet.

I just went to the equipment room and a Fluval SP4 base fit perfectly on a 960 GPH Laguna. ...no idea if this applies to other pumps, but it might.

If you lay it on its side wouldn't it rattle?

jda
09/23/2017, 01:25 PM
They don't. I don't sleep in this room or anything, but I cannot hear them.

smoothmove
09/23/2017, 01:28 PM
Does it HAVE to be internal. Iwaki's are great pressure pumps. If you have a big enough sump 50% of tank volume and an oversized skimmer, than have a lower flow from the sump.

It isn't that complicated. Only what you make it.

Simple always works.

jda
09/23/2017, 01:29 PM
This is the base that I used, not the one that comes on the Red Dragon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00K7IXRFU/ref=asc_df_B00K7IXRFU5183544/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=394997&creativeASIN=B00K7IXRFU&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198072615033&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16448127562766750667&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9028883&hvtargid=pla-541812070072

Zacktosterone
09/23/2017, 01:48 PM
Does it HAVE to be internal. Iwaki's are great pressure pumps. If you have a big enough sump 50% of tank volume and an oversized skimmer, than have a lower flow from the sump.

It isn't that complicated. Only what you make it.

Simple always works.

Yes. I drilled in my last tank and had it external. Not interested this time

Zacktosterone
09/23/2017, 02:38 PM
What about 2 fluval sp6