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Gauraog
05/20/2018, 07:56 AM
Guys,

I'm. Planning to build aquarium like this. This is what I was looking for. Just wanted to know what should be thickness of glass when I go for 4feet tall fish talk like this. Also any idea whether toughen or regular glass will be ok?

Timfish
05/20/2018, 08:09 AM
My advice would be "Don't do it" with saltwater. You're asking for a maintenance nightmare.

Gauraog
05/20/2018, 08:16 AM
My advice would be "Don't do it" with saltwater. You're asking for a maintenance nightmare.

It will be tap water and not the salt water. Any more suggestions?

Timfish
05/20/2018, 09:00 AM
Well, it's still going to be a maintenance nightmare. If you're going to try building it yourself out of glass keep in mind pressure on the bottom joints is determined by how deep the tank is more so than by volume. My GUESS is you'll want at least 1/2" and 3/4" is probably better. I would also suggest a high strength silicone like RTV 108 or RTV 167.

joshky
05/20/2018, 09:55 AM
Yeah, terrible idea tbh. Long term you'll most likely regret it, and it'll be expensive because of the height.

RioReefr
05/20/2018, 10:36 AM
I am no fish-expert, but my general observation watching my fish, fish in other aquariums and in nature....they basically like to swim horizontally. So if you took that 4-feet aquarium and laid it on its side, your fish would probably enjoy it. As pictured, I am pretty sure they would hate it.
This design looks like something those guys from the show "Tanked" would come up...in reality a stupid idea.

albano
05/20/2018, 11:47 AM
Salt or fresh, algae will grow and be very hard to clean... and if something falls to the bottom youíll need a long Ďgrabberí to get it out.

mcgyvr
05/20/2018, 03:31 PM
already covered your questions here a few months back..
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2669834

Michael Hoaster
05/20/2018, 10:36 PM
This should help:

http://garf.org/tank/buildtank.asp

idan555
05/20/2018, 11:03 PM
Well, it's still going to be a maintenance nightmare. If you're going to try building it yourself out of glass keep in mind pressure on the bottom joints is determined by how deep the tank is more so than by volume. My GUESS is you'll want at least 1/2" and 3/4" is probably better. I would also suggest a high strength silicone like RTV 108 or RTV 167.

+1.
cleaning this tank it will be hell! I wouldn't even try, but it's looks super cool.
I would say no.

good luck!

2_zoa
05/20/2018, 11:21 PM
already covered your questions here a few months back..
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2669834

Lol.
Perhaps the thought was that you wouldnít catch on or maybe an answer would be posted that ďfitĒ his/hers beliefs.....

To the OP of the thread, just do what you want. Your not listening anyway. When it blows out donít cry about it.
Rebuild it the proper way that your being instructed to now in the first place.

Gauraog
05/22/2018, 03:41 AM
This should help:

http://garf.org/tank/buildtank.asp

It's giving me error as I want size 48 inch and links says that height of tank should not be exceed than 36 inch.

Gauraog
05/22/2018, 03:46 AM
Lol.
Perhaps the thought was that you wouldnít catch on or maybe an answer would be posted that ďfitĒ his/hers beliefs.....

To the OP of the thread, just do what you want. Your not listening anyway. When it blows out donít cry about it.
Rebuild it the proper way that your being instructed to now in the first place.
Hey bro..... It's discussion and suggestions that I'm seeking. It's nothing like I don't want to listen to anyone. If that was the case then why I would have asked here? People are telling me risk associated with it and I'm trying to find out best scenario to avoid those risks. For creating something different you have to take a risk.

sde1500
05/22/2018, 08:12 AM
Guys,

I'm. Planning to build aquarium like this. This is what I was looking for. Just wanted to know what should be thickness of glass when I go for 4feet tall fish talk like this. Also any idea whether toughen or regular glass will be ok?

Oh hell, go for it. Cleaning would suck, initial aquascaping it would be a nightmare. You'll need little fish because it definitely doesn't give a lot of swimming room. But if you are willing to accept these issues, why not? Make something unique, have some fun. Who cares if others think it looks stupid, I think it looks kind of neat, just I also know I could never be bothered to try cleaning something like that. People sure are getting hyperbolic over a question.

On that note, not sure why you are asking the question multiple times, put the data you need in here, https://www.easycalculation.com/measurement/aquarium-glass-thickness-calculator.php, use safety factor of minimum 7.6, and see what it says. You'll need roughly 1" thick glass. This would be a rather expensive build. That thick of glass I'd suggest low iron, helps with clarity but adds expense.

If it were me, I'd 100% pay a pro to do it. I am crafty, I love DIY, but I know my limits. I work to make money so I can pay others who are better at things to do those things for me, sort of.

Lol.
Perhaps the thought was that you wouldn’t catch on or maybe an answer would be posted that “fit” his/hers beliefs.....

To the OP of the thread, just do what you want. Your not listening anyway. When it blows out don’t cry about it.
Rebuild it the proper way that your being instructed to now in the first place.

A little over the top aren't we? Dude is new around here, wants to build an aquarium and wants ideas. Maybe not framing his questions in the best way, but no real need to jump down his throat.

Gauraog
05/22/2018, 12:55 PM
Oh hell, go for it. Cleaning would suck, initial aquascaping it would be a nightmare. You'll need little fish because it definitely doesn't give a lot of swimming room. But if you are willing to accept these issues, why not? Make something unique, have some fun. Who cares if others think it looks stupid, I think it looks kind of neat, just I also know I could never be bothered to try cleaning something like that. People sure are getting hyperbolic over a question.

On that note, not sure why you are asking the question multiple times, put the data you need in here, https://www.easycalculation.com/measurement/aquarium-glass-thickness-calculator.php, use safety factor of minimum 7.6, and see what it says. You'll need roughly 1" thick glass. This would be a rather expensive build. That thick of glass I'd suggest low iron, helps with clarity but adds expense.

If it were me, I'd 100% pay a pro to do it. I am crafty, I love DIY, but I know my limits. I work to make money so I can pay others who are better at things to do those things for me, sort of.



A little over the top aren't we? Dude is new around here, wants to build an aquarium and wants ideas. Maybe not framing his questions in the best way, but no real need to jump down his throat.
Thanks buddy.

Gauraog
05/22/2018, 12:56 PM
Oh hell, go for it. Cleaning would suck, initial aquascaping it would be a nightmare. You'll need little fish because it definitely doesn't give a lot of swimming room. But if you are willing to accept these issues, why not? Make something unique, have some fun. Who cares if others think it looks stupid, I think it looks kind of neat, just I also know I could never be bothered to try cleaning something like that. People sure are getting hyperbolic over a question.

On that note, not sure why you are asking the question multiple times, put the data you need in here, https://www.easycalculation.com/measurement/aquarium-glass-thickness-calculator.php, use safety factor of minimum 7.6, and see what it says. You'll need roughly 1" thick glass. This would be a rather expensive build. That thick of glass I'd suggest low iron, helps with clarity but adds expense.

If it were me, I'd 100% pay a pro to do it. I am crafty, I love DIY, but I know my limits. I work to make money so I can pay others who are better at things to do those things for me, sort of.



A little over the top aren't we? Dude is new around here, wants to build an aquarium and wants ideas. Maybe not framing his questions in the best way, but no real need to jump down his throat.

Yeah. I got your point. Thanks.

Gauraog
05/22/2018, 01:01 PM
Oh hell, go for it. Cleaning would suck, initial aquascaping it would be a nightmare. You'll need little fish because it definitely doesn't give a lot of swimming room. But if you are willing to accept these issues, why not? Make something unique, have some fun. Who cares if others think it looks stupid, I think it looks kind of neat, just I also know I could never be bothered to try cleaning something like that. People sure are getting hyperbolic over a question.

On that note, not sure why you are asking the question multiple times, put the data you need in here, https://www.easycalculation.com/measurement/aquarium-glass-thickness-calculator.php, use safety factor of minimum 7.6, and see what it says. You'll need roughly 1" thick glass. This would be a rather expensive build. That thick of glass I'd suggest low iron, helps with clarity but adds expense.

If it were me, I'd 100% pay a pro to do it. I am crafty, I love DIY, but I know my limits. I work to make money so I can pay others who are better at things to do those things for me, sort of.



A little over the top aren't we? Dude is new around here, wants to build an aquarium and wants ideas. Maybe not framing his questions in the best way, but no real need to jump down his throat.

I checked using calculator.... It's suggesting 25mm thickness of glass. In my case I'm using toughen glass. How can I get the thickness of toughen glass and not the normal glass? I think 8mm/10mm would be good enough. Isn't it?

nereefpat
05/22/2018, 01:10 PM
I'm not sure that the toughened (tempered, I assume) glass will make that much of a difference. 10mm glass doesn't seem near thick enough for something that tall. The 25mm (1") seems more reasonable.

sde1500
05/22/2018, 01:20 PM
By toughen I am not 100% sure what you mean, but I'll assume you mean tempered. And really I don't know. I don't build aquariums, like I said, I'd 100% pay someone to do it. HOWEVER, if it were me, I wouldn't go that thin no matter what.

2_zoa
05/22/2018, 01:55 PM
Oh hell, go for it. Cleaning would suck, initial aquascaping it would be a nightmare. You'll need little fish because it definitely doesn't give a lot of swimming room. But if you are willing to accept these issues, why not? Make something unique, have some fun. Who cares if others think it looks stupid, I think it looks kind of neat, just I also know I could never be bothered to try cleaning something like that. People sure are getting hyperbolic over a question.

On that note, not sure why you are asking the question multiple times, put the data you need in here, https://www.easycalculation.com/measurement/aquarium-glass-thickness-calculator.php, use safety factor of minimum 7.6, and see what it says. You'll need roughly 1" thick glass. This would be a rather expensive build. That thick of glass I'd suggest low iron, helps with clarity but adds expense.

If it were me, I'd 100% pay a pro to do it. I am crafty, I love DIY, but I know my limits. I work to make money so I can pay others who are better at things to do those things for me, sort of.



A little over the top aren't we? Dude is new around here, wants to build an aquarium and wants ideas. Maybe not framing his questions in the best way, but no real need to jump down his throat.

By toughen I am not 100% sure what you mean, but I'll assume you mean tempered. And really I don't know. I don't build aquariums, like I said, I'd 100% pay someone to do it. HOWEVER, if it were me, I wouldn't go that thin no matter what.


Over the top? Hyperbolic?
No actually I donít think Iím being either. Your input has now been the exact same advice as everyone else. Donít build the tank out of such thin glass. You have even had to repeat yourself to the OP now. See a pattern?

There is obviously something that is not getting through that using such thin glass is a bad idea. Not to mention that there is no tank builder out there that is going to build this tank out of such thin glass either. The liability becomes their responsibility.

New to the boards or not. They asked for advice and they donít like the answers. So they continue to persist hoping to get a different answer. As pointed out by you and mcgvr this now has two threads on here. Months apart.

joshky
05/22/2018, 03:22 PM
I checked using calculator.... It's suggesting 25mm thickness of glass. In my case I'm using toughen glass. How can I get the thickness of toughen glass and not the normal glass? I think 8mm/10mm would be good enough. Isn't it?


You can do 8mm/10mm glass, just don't fill it with water. It'll be ok.

Gauraog
05/22/2018, 03:59 PM
You can do 8mm/10mm glass, just don't fill it with water. It'll be ok.

Don't fill it with water? Are you joking or serious? It's aquarium so I have to fill it out with water.

sde1500
05/22/2018, 05:32 PM
Don't fill it with water? Are you joking or serious? It's aquarium so I have to fill it out with water.



Hi answer was a sarcastic but accurate. You can use that thin glass, but if you fill it with water it will break. So donít fill it with water. Or use thicker glass as suggested and fill it with water.

KarenLR75
05/22/2018, 06:11 PM
already covered your questions here a few months back..
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2669834

Wow you weren't kidding mcgyvr..there was a lot of input given by yourself & others.

Even with our 'standard' rectangular tank we not only used more than enough thickness of glass, we have eurobracing around the top (sometimes I really loathe the eurobracing though to be honest).

To the OP, best of luck to you. If I had any ability to address your questions, I would but I'm new to reef tanks. I do know enough to cringe when ppl ask me why we can't do something like they do on TANKED (some are ok) and it will be a tank in the shape of something that is not conducive for maintenance and/or the fish themselves.

I'm unsure of the intent of your 'objective'..can you explain why this objective is expected to do/be (i.e. you want to build aquariums in shapes currently not seen for fun and/or profit? You like/sell grandfather clocks and are trying to do something new or different? You've been tasked with building a special focal point for an office/business and they like aquariums?)

Many apologies if you have already specified not only your objective but also already answered 'why' at least 5 times (sufficiently answered - sometimes communication can be tricky so no offense is meant by that).

FunFishin24
05/22/2018, 06:34 PM
I can put a lot of make up on my pig out back to make him look cool, but itís still a pig!! Lol

Point is, is there is a difference between a cool looking tank and an effective/safe tank. Like others have stated, you would need pretty thick glass for pressure reasons. Also as others have stated, a tank like that isnít really healthy for the fish. Now from personal experience, my tank is 36Ē deep and it has its disadvantages when it comes to aquascaping & cleaning sometimes & placement of corals. I do think your idea is neat & different but I donít see it working out the way you want & it seems like you would invest in a lot of money to learn that the hard way. But good luck to you & if you succeed can you show us pictures. [emoji51][emoji106]

swiftvision
05/22/2018, 07:25 PM
My 26" deep tank is a pain....

That tank looks cool but worthless.

Gauraog
05/23/2018, 05:25 AM
Wow you weren't kidding mcgyvr..there was a lot of input given by yourself & others.

Even with our 'standard' rectangular tank we not only used more than enough thickness of glass, we have eurobracing around the top (sometimes I really loathe the eurobracing though to be honest).

To the OP, best of luck to you. If I had any ability to address your questions, I would but I'm new to reef tanks. I do know enough to cringe when ppl ask me why we can't do something like they do on TANKED (some are ok) and it will be a tank in the shape of something that is not conducive for maintenance and/or the fish themselves.

I'm unsure of the intent of your 'objective'..can you explain why this objective is expected to do/be (i.e. you want to build aquariums in shapes currently not seen for fun and/or profit? You like/sell grandfather clocks and are trying to do something new or different? You've been tasked with building a special focal point for an office/business and they like aquariums?)

Many apologies if you have already specified not only your objective but also already answered 'why' at least 5 times (sufficiently answered - sometimes communication can be tricky so no offense is meant by that).

Well, my objective is to have some unique fishtank. That's it.

It's for home use. I'm not seller or doing it for profit. Rather I might ending up spending more money. Another point is the space that have. So I'm trying to make maximum use of it.

Gauraog
05/23/2018, 05:28 AM
I can put a lot of make up on my pig out back to make him look cool, but itís still a pig!! Lol

Point is, is there is a difference between a cool looking tank and an effective/safe tank. Like others have stated, you would need pretty thick glass for pressure reasons. Also as others have stated, a tank like that isnít really healthy for the fish. Now from personal experience, my tank is 36Ē deep and it has its disadvantages when it comes to aquascaping & cleaning sometimes & placement of corals. I do think your idea is neat & different but I donít see it working out the way you want & it seems like you would invest in a lot of money to learn that the hard way. But good luck to you & if you succeed can you show us pictures. [emoji51][emoji106]

I got it bro. I'll consider all the points before going for it. And surely let you all know if I build it.

Gauraog
05/23/2018, 05:29 AM
My 26" deep tank is a pain....

That tank looks cool but worthless.

Can you post pic here..?

Gauraog
05/23/2018, 05:39 AM
GUYS SEE THIS...... IF INVERTED AQUARIUM CAN STAND THEN WHY CAN'T I MAKE SAME?
https://youtu.be/yqL-uKf0OhI

What's ur intake on this now?

sde1500
05/23/2018, 07:54 AM
GUYS SEE THIS...... IF INVERTED AQUARIUM CAN STAND THEN WHY CAN'T I MAKE SAME?
https://youtu.be/yqL-uKf0OhI

What's ur intake on this now?

No one said it couldn't, just that you need to use proper glass.

sde1500
05/23/2018, 07:58 AM
For what it's worth, that aquarium you linked on the first page isn't made of glass, it is acrylic.

Rover88
05/23/2018, 08:16 AM
GUYS SEE THIS...... IF INVERTED AQUARIUM CAN STAND THEN WHY CAN'T I MAKE SAME?
https://youtu.be/yqL-uKf0OhI

What's ur intake on this now?

You need to use the right size glass. That is also braced with metal.

You have had the answer given to you both threads you posted on this. It can be done. Just not with cheap glass.

:deadhorse1::deadhorse1::deadhorse1::deadhorse1::deadhorse1::deadhorse1:

FoxFace Fish
05/23/2018, 09:16 AM
you are by all means welcome to do it I just have three words

Filling Video, please?

mommahen
05/23/2018, 01:35 PM
It could make a pretty cool vivarium. Maybe with some dart frogs or day geckos. Nice and colorful and tropical! But again, clean up and weekly maintenance ... ugh


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