Any updates on the carpet from PhishyBusiness ?

[SohalTang]

Minh ? Kris ?

[kris4647]

I received it yesterday. Serar didnt want to ship the purple because it deflated the day b4 shipping [Honest Guy:thumbsup: ]
I have never seen someone package these things better than Serdar, [shredded paper, sealed(not knotted) triple bagged etc]

My blue did deflate last night [scares me every time]. Relatively normal for a anen to do this with new water/light. Its just nerve wracking. I'm going to be pretty quiet about it around here untill its made it a few weeks.

Wish me Luck!

[SohalTang]

Good luck, Those are beautiful and I hope they survive so we all can enjoy them with your regular update pictures :)

[kris4647]

Minh gets his today I believe.

[Stoneyscoral]

I got mine today from Phishy B. (it wasn't posted on the website, I had a standing order for a small one).

It is the stickiest anemone I have ever(briefly) handled. Its tentacles stuck to the bag, my fingers, the end of a plastic net, the small specimen cup I used to put it in the tank, I couldn't believe it.

Once I got the foot on the rock it attached immediately. The mouth closed shortly thereafter. 4 hours later the mouth is wide open and it looks like a purple/ blue sack. Very scary!!!!!

I will hope for the best and if it makes it I will of course ask for help posting pictures as I am to stupid to do it myself.

Todd

[Stoneyscoral]

Oh yeah, I have lots of current on it and it is staying firmly attached to the rock. I hope that is a good sign.

[R33f3r]

You bought a gigantea? How is doing now?

[Stoneyscoral]

I did!!!! from Phishy Business.

I have no idea how it is doing, I only have experience with Magnifica and quadricolors. It is firmly attached though, and unless it lets go I will keep praying.

It has only been about 6 hours, it definitely does not look happy right now. It isn't bleached at all, but its mouth is wide open.

[R33f3r]

I am sure it's just acclimating :) I hope it all goes well :) These are lovely anemones.

[Dlckwood]

Cherryproperty, do you have a pic from Phishy Business or one of your own to show up?
DLCKWOOD:p

[Stoneyscoral]

I will take a photo once it starts looking better.

I always have trouble sizing the photos so I will be asking for help as usual.

Minh should have his by now as well.

Todd

[kris4647]

I was out shopping today and found a light purple for $50. It was in a 5" by 5" cubicle. :eek2:

Its about a foot across right now.......

[trueblackpercula]

cant wait to see the pictures please dont hold out.hahahahaha keep in touch.
Michael

[OrionN]

I got mine today. It is a extremely beautiful small blue S. gigantea. Very well pack but it arrived in a smelly and cloudy bag. It is in my tank for 10 hrs now and still have not inflated and still have a huge mouth with filaments protrude out of it.
I will take picture of it when it is looking better.
Minh

[StephenS]

Minh could you take some when its not looking to good also so we can see the progression. I think that it may help to see whats normal after shipping.

[Elmo18]

Originally posted by StephenS
Minh could you take some when its not looking to good also so we can see the progression. I think that it may help to see whats normal after shipping.

I agree. I think it will give a full perspective when first opening and going into the tank.

Hope they all do well for you guys, Kris and Minh.

- Elmo

[kris4647]

Sorry to hear that Minh. I have someone local [Houston]who is bringing them in now if you are interested LMK. The one I bought today is huge; tight mouth, sticky.

[R33f3r]

kris, I live in htown which LFS is getting them in? Thanks.

[OrionN]

Here is a picture of him just as the light turn out tonight. I hope but do not think that this is normal after in tank for 10 hrs. I think he will do poorly. I do not think that this is Serdar's fault. He would not ship the anemone if there is a problem. I guess they just ship extremely poorly.

http://home.stx.rr.com/minhreef/Reef's%20Picture/Blue%20Gigantea%20PB.jpg

[Elmo18]

Hang in there guys.

- Elmo

[pondfrog]

I also got one from Serdar , a gorgeous blue/purple guy. I will try to get photos when I get home this evening and let you all know how it's going.
Steve

[trueblackpercula]

Here is a picture of him just as the light turn out tonight. I hope but do not think that this is normal after in tank for 10 hrs. I think he will do poorly. I do not think that this is Serdar's fault. He would not ship the anemone if there is a problem. I guess they just ship extremely poorly.

i looks like it is holding onto the rock that is a very good sign please keep me up to date im sure its going to make it.
Michael

[Stoneyscoral]

I got home from work today and the anemone finally has closed its mouth. It still looks iffy but it hasn't let go of the rock yet.

I wonder if I should try to feed it today.

[pondfrog]

no photos tonight, he crawled into my rockwork. I can still see him and he looks good, just not photogenic tonight! I'll see if I can get a photo if he comes out tommorrow.
Cherry, I was wondering if I should feed mine today too.
I decided I would wait for 3 days after receiveing it, and try then, I dont' want to rush it and create more problems.
Steve

[Stoneyscoral]

Yeah, I am going to wait to. It may have gotten a little food while feeding the fish but that is it.

Its grip on the rock seems to be less substantial.

If it is still alive tomorrow I may even move it to a higher spot in the reef.

Todd

[OrionN]

Mine is a little better with smaller mouth (about 1 cm square rather than about 3 cm square). However he completly deflated for several hours this PM. He seem to have a better grip on the rock today with all of his foot attached. I will try to feed him a piece of massed shrimp tomorrow then I will go out of town for a few days. This guy is small enough so that if he die, my tank can handle it (only about 2 inches shrink up).
I was too busy to take a picture this evening before the light is out so I will try in AM.
Minh

[pondfrog]

Well, I'm now completely frustrated.
Mine seemed to be doing the best out of everyone's here. No mouth gaping, good inflation, nice and ruffled until this morning.
I thought he was simply deflated on first inspection, then I reashed in to move a coral, only to watch part of him separate and floate away! Overnight it had gone from looking great to an almost complete state of autolysis! The tentacles that were left were still very sticky. It just looked like he had digested himself from the inside out. I know Serdar had this one in his systems for a few days and he looked great in mine for a few. What a disappointment. :(
The most frustrating part is 5 years ago, I had a huge 20" pink purple gigantea that was gorgeous and lived great when I didn't know better. I got him locally and was not overly carefull with it or worried. I had him for 3 years before I gave him to another reefer due to a move. He died about 4 months after that. Who knows?!
Hope you all have better luck than I did.
Steve

[OrionN]

I was too fast in my update last night. This AM the anemone is the same as yesterday. Huge mouth and not fully inflated. He is still firmly attach to the rock in high current. I hope he make it. He is such a beautiful anemone with great color and a BLUE column.
Minh

[Stoneyscoral]

My little one is still hanging in there. Still holding on, but doesn't look great. I am moving it up towards the light.

I found a very large one at my local lfs. It is light blue and definitely a gigantea. It looks far better right now in the bag than the one I got mail order. I bought it before they could put it in their tanks.

I am bleeding money, someone get me a bandaid.

Todd

[Stoneyscoral]

I can't believe it! This giant one doesn't seem at all bothered by the fact it is in the bag. Its tentacles are vibrating in the bag.


It is a little smaller than a dinner plate, in the bag.

I guess Kris is not the only lucky one. By the way how is yours doing?

[OrionN]

I am bleeding money too. I need some of your luck.
Minh

[pondfrog]

wow an LFS snag, congratulations. Hope it does well for you!
Steve

[trueblackpercula]

wow this is amazing cant belive what im reading.I wish everyone luck and i hope that they make it.I now know how lucky i was with the one that i got.

[kris4647]

Relatively well. It is still deflating daily, but it reinflates for most of the day now, it doesnt have a very good feeding response, yet [fingers crossed]

The purple is moving around a bit [up the rockwork] . It was in a relatively shaded area so this am I moved to a spot w/more light. Its mouth has always been very tight; although it deflates on a daily basis as well.

I'd say its going pretty well. Only time will tell though....

[Rod Buehler]

Originally posted by Cherryproperty
Yeah, I am going to wait to. It may have gotten a little food while feeding the fish but that is it.

Its grip on the rock seems to be less substantial.

If it is still alive tomorrow I may even move it to a higher spot in the reef.

Todd

Mine has been very happy for 9+ years at th ebase of the rockwork with th efoot burried in the sand but attached to a solid rock. I am pretty sure that is how they are found in the wild too.

Yup, just found my Fautin/Allen book... "Usually lies at surface of sand, often among corals;pedal disc attached to a burried object".... Typically in shuch shallow water that the animals may be exposed at low tide. "
I have always been an iwasaki user an d my gigantae is in a tank that is only 14" tall.
Good luck to all!

[keefsama2003]

im still contemplating getting a gigantea my haddoni is doing awesome so iam a bit nervous as to switching out but good luck to all and i hope that they all pull thru.

[Stoneyscoral]

Rod, I have the same book. I moved it to make room for a much larger anemone that I picked up at my lfs and because it is not doing well at all. The new one appears to be much healthier so it gets the best realestate(at the base of a rock where current from two tunze's converge).

I have seen far to much of the insides of this gigantea. I would swear that it is dead but it is still attached.

Todd

[BonsaiNut]

Such a long thread talking about so many anemones, and not one single photo :(

[keefsama2003]

bonzai post some of yours then :D

[Stoneyscoral]

Hey Bonzai, I can email them to you and you could post. I am still somewhat useless when it comes to pictures.

Todd

[Stoneyscoral]

Sorry about the spelling (bonsai)

[MarinaP]

Move them to the highest point of flow now. They do not move to their preferable locations as fast as we want them to. Just
conducted similar experiment on my haddoni.

[smatter]

When one looks at the gigantea's track record in captivity it makes one wonder whether or not they should be collected at all. Rod Buehler's specimen sounds like it was collected without being injured, shipped well, and is an exception to the norm. Don't get me wrong, they are beautiful and I would love to have one, however, it doesn't seem right to take an anemone that can live for 100+ years and sentence it to death. I would like to know out of all the giganteas collected over the past 6 months, how many are still alive today?

[OrionN]

Originally posted by smatter
When one looks at the gigantea's track record in captivity it makes one wonder whether or not they should be collected at all. Rod Buehler's specimen sounds like it was collected without being injured, shipped well, and is an exception to the norm. Don't get me wrong, they are beautiful and I would love to have one, however, it doesn't seem right to take an anemone that can live for 100+ years and sentence it to death. I would like to know out of all the giganteas collected over the past 6 months, how many are still alive today?
You don't have to worry about this. This anemone is not rare in the wild but is extreemly rare in the trade because they rarely colloected. There are lots of small size S. gigantea which means they reproducing well in the wild. There are anemone farm that raise these anemone and have them reproduce sexually in captivity before ( per J. Sprung). There is no market, no demand for them because most died at the LFS or wholesaler. They seem to ship extreemly poorly, which seem to be the problem here. Many LFS owner just don't order them because they just take a loss on these anemone. The few reefers people like me, have to search long and hard, and call in favors in order to get them, and most of us pay an arm and a leg for them. So far for me, just to have them died in my tank.
The two comfort points for me are that these anemones are not rare in the wild, and the fact that they have potential to live hundreds of years in the wild does not mean that they will live that long.
Certainly they are beautiful. The most beautiful of all the host anemones IMO. They are also the natural host of three most desirable Clownfishes, IMO these are Ocellaris, Percula and Pink Skunk, among others.
These are the reasons i want them in my tank. If I think I have a healthy S. gigantea shipped to me, and I am unable to keep him alive, I will give up getting for my tank.
Minh

[trueblackpercula]

well that was so well put thats there is nothing i can say except that mine is still alive .............after 6 months

[smatter]

I am happy your gigantea has survived for 6 months trueblackpercula. I am sure your fish are stoked to have their natural symbiont too. Clowns behavior is so different when they are with their true symbiont. My polymnus pair would be lost without their haddoni. I have just seen too many dead and dying Stichodactylidae. Anemones of this family simply fare poorly when removed from their natural habitat and I don't think anyone can argue with that. Even the haddoni, which is considered the hardiest of this family is very delicate.

The collection of marine species that do not survive well in captivity, regardless of their abundance, casts a bad light on our hobby. I love this hobby and I don't doubt that you are all conscientious, capable aquarists. I want to continue to keep Stichodactylidae too, I just sometimes wonder if it is right. Sorry to get all ethical on you.

[delphinus]

I don't know how to argue with you, smatter. Basically it is a selfish hobby. You have to draw your own "lines in the sand" that you won't cross to ease your conscience. Over they years I've known several expert-level hobbyists basically get out of the hobby because they couldn't take the guilt anymore.

On the flip side, we'll never get the to point where we see more "captive raised" specimens if we don't try to learn, learn, learn more about the animals of the ocean in the meantime. We likely may never get there 100% anyways, but 100% for sure we won't if we don't try to expand our horizons.

I know, it might be a weak argument, but, ... like I said, you have to find your own comfort zone.

There are plenty of animals that ought not be attempted by casual hobbyists. S. gigantea is probably one of such, best left to more experienced aquarists, who can devote enough serious attention to the proper care and husbandry of the animals.

[4runner]

While I wouldn't feel confident in attempting a gigantaea anemone, I would be confident in attempting a ritteri. My confidence arises in this species due to aquarists like Minh who have been successful with them. Just five years ago success was pretty much unheard of with ritteri, as little first hand knowledge was available in successfully keeping them. I feel that aquarists like trueblackpercula, Minh, and Delphinus are pioneers in keeping these rare and "hard to keep" species of anemones. As a budding aquarist many years ago I failed on three attempts at keeping Entacmaea quadricolor, yet now I've got them actively reproducing in my tanks and consider them very hardy. I support experienced aquarists attempts at keeping this species. Only through experience will we gain the knowledge in successfully keeping them.

[smatter]

I have had limited success with Heteractis magnifica, formerly known as Radianthus ritteri. I have seen some exceptional specimens in my years and agree with you 4runner that they would be a better choice for semi-advanced aquarist. In my experience with them I have found them to be wanderers. They always seek out the area in the tank where they receive the most flow and light, which more often than not is on the glass at the top of the tank. A former client of mine has had one for over six years. It has even survived two systems failures which overheated the tank. It lives on the back pane of glass, at the waterline, in the flow of the return. I have found that when placing a magnifica they like to have a smooth pedestal on which to perch. I always positon a monolith of rock where they can bask in light and current and they usually stay put.

[Stoneyscoral]

Well folks, I have some good news!

The large gigantea that I picked up from my lfs had shrimp sashimi for breakfast. I only gave it 1/2 of a 30 ct shrimp for I was unsure if it would eat it. I had to turn off the tunze's so it had time to get it down but it is definitely gone.

The smaller one from Phishy Business is still hanging in there. I moved it back to the bottom in another high current area and I have hope for it. I fed it some cyclopseez and it immediately closed its mouth. So it is definitely not dead. Still sticky. It seems to be consuming minute amounts of it. This afternoon I will give it some table shrimp as well.

Fingers crossed.

[OrionN]

My update is not good. I just got home today. Mine still attached but moved down to under the ledge. He still have a huge mouth and not fully inflated. When I lelf the house Friday, he was deflated and was crawing down from the platform I have him one. I just keep my finger cross and hope for the best. I tryed to feed him a small piece of shrimp but he did not take it. It stuch to his tentacles for about 5 minutes then just float away in the high current. I will try to turn off the current while I feed him tomorrow.
Minh

[trueblackpercula]

Minh Nguyen

please try this I will sleep better tonight take a silverside attach it to a feeding stick and place it near the mouth of the anemone.move it around to simulate a live fish getting stuck to its tentacles hope that works it needs to eat.can you post a picture.i wish I could help you out in getting a healthy one. we both no that you are more than able of keeping this anemone alive in your tank,please keep me up to date
Michael

[Stoneyscoral]

Anemone #1 from Phishy B is no longer with us.

[OrionN]

My carpet still hanging on the rock. It deflates every night. When inflate it is limp and just hanging on. These are not good signs and I don't think he will make it.
I will stop looking for one for now. It is really sad to see such a beautiful animal dying.
Minh

[Rod Buehler]

I dont know if it will help, but what temp are you guys running? I usually shoot for 83-84. My gigantae is happiest when its 84+ and if it drops to 80 I can tell that he is not as happy.

[OrionN]

My tank temperature is peak at 84.5 some time and at night it drop to 81-82 or so. Yesterday was a cool day here. My tank peak 82.9 and low 80.9. I think the temperature is OK.
Minh

[Rod Buehler]

hmm, 80.. mine doesnt like 80 <shrugs>

[OrionN]

I will adjust and get my night temperature a little higher, to about 82.5 or so today.
Minh

[pondfrog]

Interesting Rod, as during the day my tank was 83-84 and at night down to 80. Mine did great during the day and died at night...........hmmmm.
BTW I sent you e-mail a few days ago :)
Steve

[trueblackpercula]

I don't know if it will help, but what temp are you guys running? I usually shoot for 83-84. My gigantae is happiest when its 84+ and if it drops to 80 I can tell that he is not as happy.


well that sure is interesting im starting to see that when my tank get's up to 82 deg's she sure looks better.Im going to see if I can maintain it at that for a week just to see the difference.get back to you on this .This sure could be the missing link to what everybody is looking for as to keeping this beautifully anemone alive.

P.S. how long have you had your gigantea for?

[Rod Buehler]

Originally posted by trueblackpercula
well that sure is interesting im starting to see that when my tank get's up to 82 deg's she sure looks better.Im going to see if I can maintain it at that for a week just to see the difference.get back to you on this .This sure could be the missing link to what everybody is looking for as to keeping this beautifully anemone alive.

P.S. how long have you had your gigantea for?

9+ years

[Rod Buehler]

Originally posted by trueblackpercula
well that sure is interesting im starting to see that when my tank get's up to 82 deg's she sure looks better.Im going to see if I can maintain it at that for a week just to see the difference.get back to you on this .This sure could be the missing link to what everybody is looking for as to keeping this beautifully anemone alive.

P.S. how long have you had your gigantea for?

I would guess that the average temp of the waters where thes anemonies are collected from average 86 degrees.. as with most of the other animals we keep average 84.. why do we keep tanks at 80? Damn I wish I could find aquarium frontiers nov 1997. a great article (dr Shimek) on temp and salinity was there..

[trueblackpercula]

i have it.............. got them all from the start to the end of publication what page do you want me to look up for you?

[Rod Buehler]

aquarium frontiers nov 1997 natural reef temps and salinities (Shimek)
Thanks!

[trueblackpercula]

ok if you want it ill take a photocopy and senfd it to you.pm me or email me at miezza@msn.com

[Stoneyscoral]

So I still have one gigantea left. It seems to be doing ok but now my Magnifica has shrunk down to 1/3 of its size. This thing has done nothing but grow UNTIL I decided that I could house a gigantea in the same tank. I have done nothing different and my water tests great.

I have never believed in chemical warfare before but maybe it is happening.

If the magnifica doesn't return to its original splendor soon, I will be forced to remove the gigantea.

True Black Percula, please post the pertinent parts of that article, temp & salinity I would be very interested.

Minh, does your Magnifica go through a cycle where it just freaks you out at how small it has gotten? Over 2 months and mine has never shrunk down this small.
Thanks

Todd

[trueblackpercula]

ok will do my best .

[OrionN]

Sad update.
One week after receive him, my S. gigantea is no more. He is a shriver-up and fallen to the sand.
This is it for me. No more S. gigantea unless I see a healthy one at LFS (extreemly unlikely here in Corpus Christi, Texas.) No more MO anemone for me.
Minh

[SohalTang]

No more MO anemone for me.

How do you think the anemone gets to your LFS in the first place ? I doubt a trip MO is too much for the anemone consider it survive a trip from South East Asian to get here.

[OrionN]

Originally posted by SohalTang
No more MO anemone for me.

How do you think the anemone gets to your LFS in the first place ? I doubt a trip MO is too much for the anemone consider it survive a trip from South East Asian to get here.

I only state what I would and would not do. No more no less and no judgment on my self or anybody who do the same thing. I feel sad that these beautiful anemones died in my tank. I am not sure that they were doomed before they get to my tank or not. I still want to keep one but will not spend the money to get one unless I know that it is healthy. I don't want them to died in my tank. It make me feel very sad to see it, and because they are expensive and I don't have money to throw away.
That is all. Don't read into it any more that what it is.
I am always the reefer that will study an issue, and if I think that I have reasonable chance at success, I will try it. I am not callous about animal's life under my care, but I do not think that these animal's lives are as valuable as human.
Minh

[SohalTang]

I only said you can't avoid MO. The only advantage of buying LFS is that you can actually observe the anemone before buying it. But then on MO, you can see pix.

[cagri]

I am new to carpet type anemones and I have done quite a bit of research before buying one 4 weeks ago. I kept bubbles without a problem over a year.

It is a grayish color hoddoni I beleive with white stripes. From my aboservations so far, these guys love temps over 81+. I think whenever my temp dropped below 81, it shrivels up.

Also I thought I lost him a week ago when he was 1/4 of its normal size. I guess he was just starving, I force fed him 2 big pieces of silverside and 3 hours after he ate them the transformation was increadible. He has never looked better during the day. Contrary to bubles, I think carpets need a lot of high nutrition food. I have been feeding him 2 big chunks of silversides with intestines and everything else everyday, and he keeps looking better and better. I think feeding,temperature, and high light has been the big contrubuting factor to its comeback so far. I am not saying that it will be ok for sure but so far it is gaining its strength back.

I keep mine under 250 watts of 10 K halides on sand bed at a low to medium flow area and he would initially shrival up during the day and expand at night.I think this is a sign that he is starving, this is when I started feeding him twice everyday. One thing you need to watch when you feed twice though to make sure he eats them and if it is not eaten food needs to be removed, because that many silversides will faul the water fast.

I will keep you posted on the progress, and I will post some pictures. Oh also there is a rose anemone in the same tank, and it is growing huge.

[pondfrog]

Cagri,
Good luck with your haddoni, they are usually much hardier than the giagntea's referred to in this thread. So, you should have some good success!
Steve

[cagri]

I realize haddonis are much hardier but they are even challanging when unhealthy to start with. I just fed mine again at lunch time, big silverside is gone again.

Thanks.

[BonsaiNut]

Originally posted by cagri
It is a grayish color hoddoni I beleive with white stripes. I will keep you posted on the progress, and I will post some pictures.

S. haddoni is a very different species than S. gigantea. I wish people didn't even describe them as carpet anemones since they are so different and yet people might mistakenly believe that somehow if they can keep S. haddoni alive they can keep S. gigantea. S. gigantea is far and away the most difficult Pacific clown anemone to keep. Its care requirements are not fully understood and it is fundamentally a different creature than S. haddoni. I would not draw any parallels between the two species whatsoever.

[Stoneyscoral]

Kris 4647, just curious if yours made it or not.

Your the last one unaccounted for. I hope it made it.

[kris4647]

Sorry I didnt see an email for this thread....

I'm sorry to say that both anenome's past away within a month. Something is missing in the equation somewhere. Its tantalizing that some have success with them but overall I think acquiring them at this point is a questionable proposition.

The speciman I bought locally was the healthiest I've seen
[ Closed mouth firm body etc.] and it died prior to the blue. I have all the goodies, flow,light,skimming,pristine water,high alkalinity 82 degree temp etc.

I'm going to have to file this in the Goniopora/Elegance catagory until something changes. I've seen similar things with Ritt's just not as severe. It could be the collection/transport process.

[Rod Buehler]

Bummer! I have often thought of getting another (more colorful) gigantae.. maybe I should just be happy having the one I do. OTOH, I'd almost like to recreate conditions that I have now, to see if I could have the same luck.

[trueblackpercula]

Well im very sorry about that as well. Im going to post what i have been doing for the past month . maybe everyone will be able to follow my foot steps. give me a couple of days to put it all to gether.
Michael

[kris4647]

Rod,

Thats the kind of experiment we would need to find out the missing link so to speak. I know you have a very specialized set-up. Bonsai posted a beautiful pic as well.

Still dont know if its worth the effort, I'm starting to wonder what is driving the price of these things up with a 90% mortality rate [As represented here at least]. I've seen the Tranship and Wholesale lists and they arent really marked up on that end.

I have a Ritteri, two sebaes, five roses, Clams, SPS. Everything thriving, except for the carpets [One thing I really wanted to keep.] Oh Well.........

[Stoneyscoral]

This may sound terrible but, I have a deal with our local lfs that I will be able to buy gigantea's at his wholesale price until I get one that "sticks"

I am going to keep a log to track success and failures. Of course I will start with what I have learned from others here (temp/flow).

[Rod Buehler]

I hope to get a few videos of the surges firing at my gigantae.. I think people will be supprised on how much flow my clowns/gigantae actually receive. Also the tank has finally been able to peak at 85-86.. everyone is happy! in the winter months its a little difficult to keep it up in the 83-84 range.

[Stoneyscoral]

Rod, do you keep sps as well in your tank. Of course I want the best of all worlds in my tank. Sps and a gigantea.

Bonsai had posted a video of his flow and It was nothing short of a jacuzzi.

Todd

[Rod Buehler]

A little of anything and everything gets tossed into and taken from that tank, but Yes, there are some SPS that stay full time :). Lots of xenia too. First and foremost its my clown/anemone tank. I have many other tanks set up too

[Rod Buehler]

if you were asking because of concerns of temp with SPS.. my anemone system is tied to th esame system as my main SPS tank(the surge/tide zone) and also my 7 gal bow Zoa tank. (Zoo tanks belong at the zoo, because there is no second "O" in Zoanthid ;) )

[cagri]

my hoddoni did not make it either. I have had him a little over a month. One day he looked great next day he looked bad. I tried everything possible. It was eating too. Tank also has rose and rose has been thriving.

[keefsama2003]

the rose may have donein your haddoni i had a bta and a haddoni in the same tank and the second i put it in it started to shrink and look really bad. when i took out the bta it was fine and has been in the tank for 4 months now and doing really good

[Stoneyscoral]

Thanks!

[Rod Buehler]

FWIW, I have a rose in my 7 bow, and its tied to the same system as the 3x3 gigantae tank.. no issues here

[keefsama2003]

i didnt say there was with gigantea from all my research the bta/gigantea combo is fine but the bta/haddoni combo doesnt work out of all posts i have been thru on the different boards one seems to wind up dead

[Dlckwood]

Well FWIW, I had a rose and brown haddoni combo and they both did great. That was in my 40 gallon. I think it is all random.
DLCKWOOD:p

[blkwrxwgn]

Yeah I think the mortality rate has a lot to do with the way they are collected or shipped. I've had a hadoni and rose for quite some time now with no ill effects. I've given up on my search for a gigantea because of all the deaths. I'll stick with trying to find rare colored hadoni instead.

[OrionN]

Just a bumb so iReef69 can read a little about S. gigantea

[kerusso316]

Rod do feed your gigantae RODS FOOD.This may be the missing link.......Rod has the brightest color fish I have ever seen.His food is the best money can buy.

[Rod Buehler]

wow. Old thread

Yes, I do feed my anemones my food mixture .

And for those interested, I did recreate the conditions of that of my "succesful gigantea" on a smaller scale for another gigantea, and for about a year it has been doing very well.

[Gary Majchrzak]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7848372#post7848372 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rod Buehler
wow. Old thread

Yes, I do feed my anemones my food mixture .

And for those interested, I did recreate the conditions of that of my "succesful gigantea" on a smaller scale for another gigantea, and for about a year it has been doing very well.
How about a recipe for "Buehler's Anemone Chow"? :D
How are your gigantea faring?

[Rod Buehler]

My giganteas ( hadonis, mag, and BTAs) are doing great, but I dont really think that its the food :). I really beleive that the surges are key, although I have heard some "experts" say that surges arent benificial :rolleyes:. (they just dont know how to properly set them up :D)

I dont want to share the food receipe here because it may be considered comercial. There is no secret to the recipe.. Its the formulation that is secret ;).

[Gary Majchrzak]

Sharing a food recipe wouldn't be considered commercial unless you were selling something. I understand completely if you don't want to share the secret formulation, though. :)
I'm sure that all anemone keepers appreciate your thoughts on the importance of water motion. It's an often overlooked component of anemone care. The focus with anemones is usually lighting, feedings and water chemistry. Thanks!

[OrionN]

Just a blast from the past. Lots of good information in this thread IMO.