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rvitko
05/07/2004, 07:15 PM
If you go to www.tunze.com you can see our new inventions. Some highlights I will detail below.
6200 Stream 5200gph 2.5" outlet.
New Driver for all Electronic pumps with fishcare function- driver spins once every minute to scare fish away during foodtimer or tide mode. Not quite finished but should be available after some more test runs.
New Multicontroller 7095 with integrated lunar cycle moonlight and soft touch keypad with power display- Not available until late fall
Power Magnet 220.58- the strongest algae magnet in the world for 3.2" glass.
New inexpensive return pump and ultra silent overflow box
Magnet Holder for all Tunze products- they really look sharp and use a high powered water proofed magnet and a special micro suction rubber to attach firmly.
Riverpack freshwater filter
CO2 diffuser- completely my invention
New medias for nitrate, phosphate, silicate removal
New high powered skimmer for in sump or in tank, in black plastic as will all Comline components be by next year.
The Ultimate new toy- Wavebox. We just upped the ante in flow again. This is really an unbelievable, fool proof and reliable surge device with a flow quality you have to see to believe. I have one being sent for IMAC.
It is 1:15AM and I have a lot of work to do tomorrow so I am signing off.
BTW- Dealer addresses for USA \will be updated on Monday.
1diverdown
05/07/2004, 08:45 PM
ok, call me clueless, but where are these things hiding??? i checked all over the US site and couldn't find any one of them. i'm really interested in the stream magnets, and the 6200. please clue me in.
thanks
Doug
moonpod
05/08/2004, 01:21 AM
wavebox???? Pray tell, some more info????
rvitko
05/08/2004, 04:30 AM
Uh, first page, litttle flyer on the bottom under all the flags.
mojodeli
05/08/2004, 08:46 AM
I had trouble finding it too.
here's a link:
http://www.tunze.com/Interzoo-Neuheiten-2004/Flyer%202004/Flyer_2004_E_USD.pdf
moonpod
05/08/2004, 11:15 AM
So Roger,
wavebox=bubbless interal surge system???
where do I sign up? I NEED one.
chuck
manderx
05/08/2004, 09:25 PM
wow, is that magnet really $570?
rvitko
05/09/2004, 05:22 AM
Yes, the magnet is priced out of reach for a reason, a zoo or professional will get a discount, some guy who just ones to claim he has the biggest magnet which came packed in a 12by 12 lead lined maple ply box is going to a) lose a finger and b) kill his grandfather when his pacemaker gets wiped out. It is borderline on being classified as a weapon.
The wavebox may be available sooner, a couple pieces need to be finished. I will update as details are available. It integrates with the multicontroller and streams.
Flame*Angel
05/09/2004, 12:48 PM
Oooh, magnet holders for the streams! How long till these are available? This will be perfect for my tank!
rvitko
05/09/2004, 02:51 PM
Fairly soon, the molds need some modifications and we need to work out the warnings as we learned yesterday that if you put the two halves together on the big one you are up the creek. It was a bad idea to test that!
1diverdown
05/09/2004, 03:57 PM
hi Roger...
i was wondering if you can give me some more info on the wave box, particularly their positioning in the reef. from what i can discern, i'm guessing that they need to be placed so the current flows across the reef, not front to back. i'm asking because i would really like to get a pair, but with 3 viewing sides on my reef, i only like to put mechanicals on the back wall. can these units function effectively if they're mounted in the rear corners? also, will i need to get a different controller for my 3 6100 streams if i add the wave boxes, or does it really not matter that much?
thanks
Doug
moonpod
05/09/2004, 09:52 PM
wavebox...I really, really think I need one of those....my question Roger is this: If you placed a wave box on one end of your tank, and an extension on the other side, can you get them to work synchronously? I guess it theoretically doesn't matter which "end" of the tank you mount it on as the "wave" should travel the length of the tank right?
vapor1
05/09/2004, 10:50 PM
Just my luck , I get my streams in and now they are coming out with a new multi controller that has added features on it .
It would be nice if they made a retrofit...or and upgrade to the multi-controllers to get the new funtion on tide mode .. It would be worth it to be able to use tide mode without fear of damageing the streams , or animals.....HINT...HINT .
vapor1
05/09/2004, 10:55 PM
Or is the new fishcare feature in the driver box ?
rvitko
05/10/2004, 03:56 AM
vapor1- fishcare is in the driver, you would need the new drivers so an upgrade will be possible at some future time. We need some more tests before anything is ready.
The wavebox connects its controller to the multicontroller and they sync up automatically for night mode and the like. The extension is a slave wavebox that works synchronously with the main unit. Only one should be required on all but the biggest aquariums. It is basically a big Stream in a two liter box with a fancy contoller that is being pulsed very rapidly. The box empties and fills and the effect is the same as if you were to jump up and down in a swimming pool. Due to the application of resonance your small mass can cause large waves in a large pool if you time your movements just right. The effect is just like in the ocean, corals and algae rock back and forth, detritus lifts and hovers, sand dunes form and the surface rolls across the aquarium in waves.
yettihead
05/10/2004, 09:28 AM
Roger,
I just purchased two stream 6000s and was going to purchase the multicontroller next month. Do you think the new 7095 multicontroller is worth the wait or should I just get the 7094?
Thanks,
Chad
blgreef
05/10/2004, 10:05 AM
will the wavebox be available minus the stream, And can a 6100 drive it?
Ask as I have 5 streams and could use one for a wave box save a few quid??
Also can the new venturi be used on the origina 240 skimmers??
And why not make the fish guard function part of the mullti controler? This would allow all stream user to get the benefit without havign to upgrade the electronics box?
blgreef
05/10/2004, 10:09 AM
AND another thing :-)
the 9000 skimmer has " priciple of open water circulation" so its no longer a closed loop on the skimmer and we are running it as a normal suck the water in skim it spit it out set up??.
And when will Tunze build a miny enducter for the air intake, it would seem this may be simple and increase the air input considerably.
rvitko
05/10/2004, 12:07 PM
yettihead- This is up to you, just bear in mind it could be November before you get one if you decide to wait.
blgreef- the electronics necessary for the wavebox and the fishguard are part of a driver upgrade that was necessary to make the 6200 possible. It just isn't possible to add it to the multicontroller. You could feasibly convert a Stream to a wavebox but I don't think it is cost effective as you would only save the motorblock and the transformer and there are a lot of differences.
Yes, the skimmer concept is open circuit, non plankton safe. We will offer the centrifugal models still for the advanced hobbyist who can use and understand the closed loop. Unfortunately it was a significant marketing disadvantage when the average hobbyist just wants the most foul cup of poo on the block. This skimmer design beats everything else in the price range hands down and can run in a sump or in tank. It is really a neat design especially with the black plastic and blue decals and venturi screw.
The new venturi we have is really advanced and it makes such a small bubble a needle wheel and eductor are only marginally better. Further we tried it and the small body size could not handle the increase in air intake which was about 25% over the venturi. We wanted to keep the most compact size of any skimmer while doubling the performance. Granted, our research is never through and we are continuing to improve the skimmers even now so in the future it may well use a different technique. You can add the venturi to your 240- off the top of my head it is part 3130.160- confirm this before you order as it might be .360. The problem will be a smaller bubble and greater air volume will mean free bubbles leaving the skimmer on this model.
blgreef
05/10/2004, 12:28 PM
Thanks Roger ,
Have a spare skimmer pump so will upgrade the 240 and maybe even the spare and stick it on the H&S skimmer the skimmer euro reef based their unit on.
lakerfan
05/10/2004, 01:28 PM
Hey Roger,
The new items look great! The pic of the 7095 controller looks way better than the design pics you sent me. I am liking the waterproof cover on it. Would customers be able to add additional moonlights to this system if they wanted to?
BTW, I don't think Ken will be making it to Interzoo ( i know you had asked me before about it. )
Talk to you soon and have a good trip.
Ben
rvitko
05/10/2004, 01:44 PM
In the future we will make a stand alone moonlight but it won't be possible to add another as it is part of the photocell.
vapor1
05/10/2004, 01:54 PM
Hurry with the stand alone moon light ..just kidding , lol
I can't wait to get my hands on one of those
vapor1
05/10/2004, 01:56 PM
BTW, what does Neuheiten Bei Tunze mean ?
rvitko
05/10/2004, 02:10 PM
New innovations by Tunze
blgreef
05/10/2004, 04:53 PM
Thanks for the update Roger some nice kit, having fun in Germany, and whats the beer like:-)
rvitko
05/11/2004, 01:33 AM
The beer is excellent as always- so is the leberkas, nurenbrat, kartoffelsalat and donner kebap :) I look forward to being in Nurenburg where I can get my favorite beer, Tucher Bajuvator.
blgreef
05/11/2004, 07:32 PM
ok had a think on the wave box and if its using a 6100 it would seem to indicate that the pump must be turned on empty say one litre out of the box and then turn Off to avoid sucking air into the pump. now at 12000 litres an hour thats 3.3Litre per second or at 4000 litres per hour thats 1.1 litres a second!
If correct how does the pump handle this? is it a full stop or is the pump just spun at a low RPM to allow water to refil the box and how do you handle the heat build up in the motor block?
I would assume the drivers could soft start the pump and even sense pump direction, but even with this the brakes would be engaged and if the pump has a 1 second duty cycle would this not wear the brake assy out?
AND, lets say I install one set it up and hit the ideal resonant frequency of my tank, is 2 cm the absolute maximum water displacement or can it go higher whats the limiting factor?
Interested in the technology of the unit, looks a fun bit of kit
Just interested
blgreef
05/11/2004, 07:32 PM
ok had a think on the wave box and if its using a 6100 it would seem to indicate that the pump must be turned on empty say one litre out of the box and then turn Off to avoid sucking air into the pump. now at 12000 litres an hour thats 3.3Litre per second or at 4000 litres per hour thats 1.1 litres a second!
If correct how does the pump handle this? is it a full stop or is the pump just spun at a low RPM to allow water to refil the box and how do you handle the heat build up in the motor block?
I would assume the drivers could soft start the pump and even sense pump direction, but even with this the brakes would be engaged and if the pump has a 1 second duty cycle would this not wear the brake assy out?
AND, lets say I install one set it up and hit the ideal resonant frequency of my tank, is 2 cm the absolute maximum water displacement or can it go higher whats the limiting factor?
Interested in the technology of the unit, looks a fun bit of kit
Just interested
ultimach
09/21/2004, 11:17 AM
What's the difference between the 1073.04 and the electronic turbelle 7100/2?
ultimach
09/21/2004, 11:17 AM
What's the difference between the 1073.04 and the electronic turbelle 7100/2?
rvitko
09/21/2004, 04:48 PM
The 1073.04 is higher volume and lower head pressure. It is mechanically flow adjusted and it is made in Italy and adapted for our use.
The 7100/2 is high pressure lower volume. It is electronically adjusted and it is a real Tunze pump, made in house at our factory.
ultimach
09/22/2004, 02:00 PM
So, which one is better? Which one would you set in a "standard" reef aquarium?
Thanks!;)
rvitko
09/22/2004, 02:13 PM
I don't know that their is a better. The 1073.04 pumps more water but the 7100/2 pumps farther and uses less energy and likely will last longer. The 1073.04 though is easier to use and much cheaper.
ultimach
09/24/2004, 02:23 PM
Ok! Thanks!;)
I'll wait to see what others experience with the new ones...
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