Fish Health Management Course at NCSU

[Steven Pro]

I just found out about this, http://www.cvm.ncsu.edu:8110/conted/fish/ It is too short notice and too expensive for me now, but I thought others maybe interested in it.

[billsreef]

Definately a good course. Thought that it had been defunct for awhile. Glad to see that's not the case :D Unfortunately I'm in the same boat, not enough notice and funds :eek2: However the anouncement is worthy of being made a sticky, thanks Steven :D

[Steven Pro]

I am going to be keeping my eye on it for next year.

[TerryB]

Here is a link to a similar educational program at Oregon State University:
http://seagrant.oregonstate.edu/makingadifference/stories/OrnamentalsSoA.pdf

Cheers,
Terry B

[Joe Damone]

i took the fish health managment course a few years back ay UG interesting course.though I have not found alot of pratical use for it.Seem that if the fish has a chance if you give it a good stress free tank to hang in it will pull thru.Takieng scrapings and giving proziquantal baths seem to kill the fish faster than leaving them alone.If you have alot of sick fish and are willing to sacrafice one for diagnotics than it also makes sence

just my 2cents

Joe Damone

[not ecooper]

I skin scrape everything, although I've never had a course in doing so (learned from a mentor.) Before it goes into my tank, it gets scraped. I use it more for prevention than for treatment, but I'm better equipped to diagnose something if I can see it and identify it.

[Joe Damone]

where do you take the scrapeing from?

[meeran]

Pls advice me is there any courses for Marine aquarium.

[LisaD]

Thanks for the tip. My company ships a lot of fish to schools. We are right in NC. I suggested to my boss that someone in our group go.

[Steve847]

Is anyone else from RC going to this? I will be there!! PM me if your going...

[Puffer Queen]

Did anyone attend the course? Wish I could have attended :(

[LisaD]

I didn't go, but heard from someone local who did, they said it was very good.

[Steven Pro]

I called the Office of Continuing Education today inquiring about this course for next year. They said they will be repeating it again in July from the 20-22, but the website had not yet been updated to take registrations. They also do not have a subscription or anything to be informed when there is an update. You just have to keep checking the website,
http://www.cvm.ncsu.edu:8110/conted/

[billsreef]

Time to try and start squirreling away some money :D

[dawgphish]

very cool!

[Steven Pro]

The course this year will be from October 12th through the 14th.

http://www.cvm.ncsu.edu:8110/conted/fish/index.htm

I am considering going.

[Youngsilver]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=3561960#post3561960 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Joe Damone
i took the fish health managment course a few years back ay UG interesting course.though I have not found alot of pratical use for it.Seem that if the fish has a chance if you give it a good stress free tank to hang in it will pull thru.Takieng scrapings and giving proziquantal baths seem to kill the fish faster than leaving them alone.If you have alot of sick fish and are willing to sacrafice one for diagnotics than it also makes sence

just my 2cents

Joe Damone

A friend of mine years back, had a really big lionfish that wa sick, so he contacted someone being called the fish doctor at oklahoma state university, and he never saw the fish again haha great job fish doctor! haha

[Youngsilver]

hmm i did not mean to slander the university of oklahoma state. It is a great school with with several family members attend.

[ScottT1980]

I attended two years ago (at NCSU), pretty informative class. At the time, I did not have the clinical knowledge so I found a lot of the information to be either elementaey (basic husbandry) or advanced (pathology, disease descriptions, etc...). The labs were the best part of the experience, definitely made it worth while. I was fortunate to get the graduate student fee, and since I think it would normally cost $500, I just don't know if it would be that worthwhile for the hobbiest.

I would suggest Noga's fish health book, or even the new Lewbart Invert Med. book. This would probably be just as helpful, sans the hands on experience in the lab.

Just my 2 pesos
Scott

[Puffer Queen]

I attended the course this year - IT WAS EXCELLENT!!

Besides the very informative presentations, the hands on lab time and the observation of surgery on a live koi was beyond what I had expected.

I would highly recommend this course.

[Steven Pro]

The information is up for 2007, http://www.cvm.ncsu.edu/conted/fish/index.htm

[Puffer Queen]

I attended the conference again this year and it was even better than last year!!

[ScottT1980]

Glad to hear it. I was talking to Shane (Lewbart's tech) and he said they were putting a little more emphasis on reef aquariums and coral medicine? Is this true, or is the focus still on fish? I would have snuck into a few of the lectures but was out of town this past week. Glad you had fun...

Take er easy
Scott

[Puffer Queen]

No fish are still the emphasis - thankfully as I am more interested in fish and fish medicine :)

[rwbogard]

Just scrape the fish with a sterile instrument and put it on a slide. Stain with crystal violet or your choice of dye, then counterstain to scope out visible bacteria and/or parasites, if microscope does not have oil immersion. You will be able to narrow it down to parasite or bacteria (gram - or +). From this you can then identify using spread plates if handy. I can give more details on how to create your own.

[Steven Pro]

I got an email that the tentative date for 2008 is October 9-11, so mark your calendars.

[Me No Nemo]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10629326#post10629326 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rwbogard
Just scrape the fish with a sterile instrument and put it on a slide. Stain with crystal violet or your choice of dye, then counterstain to scope out visible bacteria and/or parasites, if microscope does not have oil immersion. You will be able to narrow it down to parasite or bacteria (gram - or +). From this you can then identify using spread plates if handy. I can give more details on how to create your own.

I'd love more info on this. I own an LFS and we have a small lab we use to diagnose coral problems and such. I am a novice on the fish end of diagnosing problems through scrapes and such, but recently hired a UCF student who studies molecular and micro biology to work at the store so we can expand this area of knowledge. Any info or links would be greatly appreciated. Here's some of our equipment:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/menonemo/100_1291.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/menonemo/100_1293.jpg

[Spracklcat]

Looks like you've got yourself a nice dissecting scope-- great for doing dissections (:) ) or looking at microcrustaceans, little things, some gross tissue work, some parasites, but to see bacteria you will need something with a stage to put slides on and some stronger objective lenses. I don't know what your magnification is, but most are in the range of 60X. For staining microorganisms you'll need an oil immersion lens for a total magnification of 1000X.

Do play around with it though---you will see amazing things. Bristelworms are especially cool--

Also, you are lucky in that you have a trinocular scope, which means you'll be able to hook a camera up with the right adapter.

[Questionmarc]

wish they had one of these in ny

[Me No Nemo]

There's already a camera on the scope that does both still and video plus I have another new scope with a stage and the immersion lens:) Just starting to figure that one out!

[Steven Pro]

Time to start planning for next year, October 8-10, 2009.

[John Dawe]

Took the class in 1995, had a great time. Would love to do it again.

[seguin]

I would love to attend this course through NCSU...maybe this year or next, depending on finances.

I attended a great course through the University of Florida a few years ago. I believe the course is offered every other year, so look for it in 2010. They typically alternate it with a more advanced course geared towards veterinarians, emphasizing fish surgical techniques.

http://www.conference.ifas.ufl.edu/ame/wwf/

The UF Tropical Aquaculture Lab is definitely a great resource.
http://tal.ifas.ufl.edu/index.htm

...especially their publications section.
http://tal.ifas.ufl.edu/publications.htm

-matt

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[E36328i]

Anyone here ever find a course of this sort in California? I work at a LFS and have been wanting to learn more about fish disease and fish pathology, specifically marine fish.