Are these gobies SPS safe?

[AlgaeMan]

I think these guys look pretty neat, but fear that they might munch my acros. Anyone have any experiance with them?
Panda Gobie (http://www.atlantisaquarium.net/images/goby3.jpg.JPG)

[SptfireXIV]

whoa, those look awesome. if they act anything like yellow clown gobies i'd be very careful of adding them to an SPS tank, i had really bad luck with them and acros.

[Old Yeller Tang]

I think you can add one and get away with it. Clown gobies are monsters when they're in pairs. I had 4 in my tank and I saw the damage 1st hand. Got rid of 3 and the lone goby hasn't done any damage at all.

[kozmo02]

is the panda goby a variety of clown goby? they do look really cool.

i think old yeller tang is right, generally when they pair up they start tearing up tissue to make breeding sites, but if you had just one i bet it would be ok.

where can you get those? what do they sell for?

[joetbs]

They live exclusively in P. Damicornous. I wouldn't risk it if you have any Pocciloporids, such as Stylophora, Seriatopora, etc.

joe

[AlgaeMan]

Thanks for the input. It sounds like I would be better off without them.

[MiddletonMark]

Wow, those do look incredible even though I'd avoid them too :)

Thanks for the pic, if just that.

[bookfish]

They're cool enough to set up a species tank for. -Jim

[joetbs]

If you can feed them pocillopora. Most gobiodons are almost impossible to feed. You probably wouldn't see it much either in a bright lit tank.

joe

[bookfish]

http://www.atlantisaquarium.net/images/goby4.jpg.JPG

which look like whip gobies to me. Bryaninops, halfway down the page

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/gobies.htm

but does anyone know anything about these?

http://www.atlantisaquarium.net/images/goby2.jpg.JPG

Thx-Jim

[joetbs]

I've kept 2 byraninops. They did good, but stuck to the glass in darker crevices. I had one for several months, then it got sucked into a powerhead. Never found the other.

The bottom on is an eviota goby. Very easy to keep. Will come out occasionally, but not too much. Needs to be with peaceful, small tankmates. Probably the best choice on that page.

joe

[joetbs]

Also, $30 is a ridiculous price for those eviotas/byraninops. They cost $4-5 wholesale. The paragobiodon(panda) is quite rare, since its found close to japan, and the discordipinna commands a high price due to its delicate nature.

joe

[bookfish]

I guess the only consideration now is whether to set up a panda tank. Hmmmm-Jim:)

[Project Reef]

I saw two of these panda gobies today. They are TINY!!!!

[David P]

Oh, like your big enough to talk Ali? :)

[Project Reef]

:confused: Then again, we're all panda gobies compared to you. ;)

This goby would have to be put in a really small nano for it to be seen. They were a very 'cute' fish, just too dang small.

Joe, they won't live in any acroporids? Just P.D.? Any idea if they are hard to feed or not? Given the size of their mouth, dry cyclopeeze or powdered up flake foods might work. However, since they are exclusive to P.D., I wonder if they have an exclusive diet as well...

[bookfish]

I think lots of live rotifers would probably work. That's what I'd feed the p.d. anyway so if I tried them (I've decided not to) that would be my plan.-Jim

[AcroSteve]

If you get more than one, be prepared for this.

http://www.waterloocoal.com/csb/images/Corals/rClownGobieWithEggsHorrida.jpg

[Casshern]

sorry to burst any of your bubbles but atlantis only had 2 panda gobies and they're both on reserve for an employee of the store. I saw them first hand and they were both less than a cm. Perhaps 7-8mm max. K thanks


But if you like, they have a nice selection of griessingeri gobies and a few eviota/trimma sp.


P.S.

I have a spikefin and saw all the gobies the first day they came into the store. They wouldn't take live brine (which were almost as big as they were), but that was on the first day. I think atlantis has since added macroalgae or supplementing them with live pods somehow. From my own experience, the spikefins will take cyclopeeze and will cruise into the open during low light situations like when my moonlights are on. I'm going to pick up the last eviota they have tomorrow, I'll let you guys know if they're taking cyclopeeze then. k thanks again

[JB NY]

I've never seen those gobies before.

The only confirmed Gobiodon that we know does eat polyps is the yellow clown gobie (Gobiodon okinawae). FWIW I have two of the green clown gobies (Gobiodon histrio) and have had zero problem for almost two years with them.

Here is an excerpt from my correspondence with Dr. Philip Munday on Gobiodon feeding on acroporid polyps.

"It has often been suggested that Gobiodon feed on coral polyps, but the degree to which they do so is not really known. I have observed Gobiodon okinawae feeding on coral polyps in the field and also found evidence of coral feeding in gut samples of this species, so this one definitely does feed on live coral tissue. I have found no concrete evidence of coral feeding in other species of Gobiodon, although this is not to say that they don't eat polyps under the right circumstances. I suspect that most species are probably fairly generalist in diet and will eat anything of value from the water column (e.g zooplankton) or from the benthos. Some species probably do feed on the host coral, but it is unlikely to be their sole source of nutrition."

HTH

[Kip]

i have a citron goby that i wish i hadnt put in the tank

i see him nip at acros frequently... dont know how much it is actually consuming. that and i am sure its rubbing against some acros isnt helping

since i got it... it has gone from yellow to black... anyone out there with some info on this color change?

anyone out there with some info on how to catch a little goby in a 225g tank?

[joetbs]

For the size of the goby(up to 3cm), and where it llives, it is most likely very hard to feed. Ali, have you ever seen a citron or okinawae take cyclopeeze ;) Since this fish lives in the branches of P.D., i feel comfortable making the assumption that it is living there to feed off of the coral. I'm not sure how it would adapt to live in an acropora, but it would probably perish without some sort of Pocillopord around, if not eating the acropora polyps. The latin name is Paragobiodon lacunicolus, and its common name is the Blackfin Coral Goby/Croucher.

joe

[MiddletonMark]

Amazing differences in these little gobies.

Originally posted by JB NY
FWIW I have two of the green clown gobies (Gobiodon histrio) and have had zero problem for almost two years with them.
Mine has only been in there a month [from soft tank] ... but doesn't seem to care what Genus of coral he hangs out around. Nor exhibits the problematic behavior I've heard/seen out of the yellow [G.okin_] + others.

Also eats mush, suprisingly large pieces.

I knew it before, but appreciate the variation of these Gobies more thanks to the insight above.

[tokinreefer]

Kip, IME the best way to get rid of those darn clown gobies is to take a larger diameter hose (i used 3/4 id) and place it near his favorite hang out. Wait until he is comfortable and then start a syphon, it will suck him right out. Works like a charm.

HTH

[dufferdan]

I thought Lemon Gobies were reef safe. ( I guess reef safe does'nt include all coral) I just bought a couple pc's of Acro and my Lemon gobie does seem to take nips at them. The Acro frags have only been in my tank a couple days. I don't see any damage yet.
Should I get rid of the fish or wait and see? I'm nervous now. The Acro cost way more than the little fish. Cute little guy though.
Advice Please?

[Kip]

Originally posted by tokinreefer
Kip, IME the best way to get rid of those darn clown gobies is to take a larger diameter hose (i used 3/4 id) and place it near his favorite hang out. Wait until he is comfortable and then start a syphon, it will suck him right out. Works like a charm.

HTH

just wanted to say thanks.. i owe ya one... i took a couple of nites to get him.. but i sucked him right out with the hose just like you said... thanks a million!

[tokinreefer]

Not a problem, I wish I could say I thought of it all by myself, but it was suggested to me by someone else when I was having problems with my black gobies nipping polyps. I wish I could give credit where it is due but don't know who it was.

[random_ryan]

i never had this problem