It's that time... next new tank

[slobound]

Okay, so it's been a long time coming. I moved and it gave me a reason to put in a bigger tank. I'm upgrading from my 150g to a 265g. I'm working on the plumbing right now and should be done with it in the next day or too. Here are some pics of the project so far. I still have a lot of work to do but I'll keep you updated with the progress.

Tank Specs:
265 gallon glass (3/4" all) - eurobraced - Aqua Aquariums

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[slobound]

Haha... here's all the guys it took to lift it up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/2add.jpg

[Project Reef]

Siiiick broski! :D Lookin' great...

[moonpod]

ha garricj...that's why my next tank is gonna be acrylic....nice looking tank btw

[slobound]

Ali - I've been waiting to finish up the plumbing so I can move stuff over. It's just killing me!

Chuck - Thanks... I was scared it wasn't gonna fit through my door with guys lugging it around. Thank goodness we only had to only pick it up for about 30 feet.

[Wilafur]

sweeeeeeet! so whats up with the guy in the last pic trying to lick the tank? hahaha!

[slobound]

Hey, I can't help it if the tank is mighty tasty...

[Project Reef]

lol Willy

[Wilafur]

so, how many lbs is that sucker? 750lbs? that sucker looks HEAVY!

[WayneL333]

Did you custom make the stand and canopy? What you going to put in your new tank?

[slobound]

Yeah, it was HEAVY. I'm guessing it weighed about 800lbs.

[slobound]

Yes, this is just the frame of the stand and canopy. I built it myself. I'll finish it off after I move the contents of the 150 into this tank. It'll be the same as my other tank... full blown SPS reef.

[kevinrs]

hey, slobound, where do you buy your sps, im looking around, and can't really find any nice sps for decent prices?

[JAGreef]

Nice !!!!

:dance:

[daphaze1]

wow you can see the weight, just by looking at their faces =D, btw slobound you got some really nice friends there, my friends woulda told me to go to homedepot and get some strong people to move that sucker. =)

[greencardgraphics]

looking sweet...

[sberman]

hey garrick looking good

[slobound]

Hey guys,

Thanks everyone... hopefully it won't be too much longer before I get my corals in there.

kevinrs - I get my sps from all over. I was buying a lot from on-line vendors before. Now I just collect from friends locally.

daphaze1 - yeah, if it wasn't for those guys... there's no way that tank gets in the house. I am amazed that they were willing to help.

Scott - hey, thanks for the help!!! It's almost plumbed, just have to pick up a couple more parts today.

[Brian Koyama]

slobound- do you think you'll have an informal tank tour once you're all setup? I'd love to see this mammoth tank.

Brian

[slobound]

Hahahaha... sure... if people want to come out to the boonies... you're more than welcome at the house.

[sberman]

i am just glad i was the one taking pic !!!!!lol

[daphaze1]

rofl. sberman you got the best job =D. did you fake an injury, just before you got there? heh

but yea someone has to do the job =).

[sberman]

wish i was taking them -- his soon to be wife was snaping the pics-- i am on the far side u just cant see me

[Old Yeller Tang]

Originally posted by slobound
Okay, so it's been a long time coming.
Sure has! I've been waiting for pics of this monster! NICE!
Originally posted by slobound
I'm working on the plumbing right now and should be done with it in the next day or too.
Hey Garrick,

Only a couple days to do the plumbing! Took me a month!:D
I thought I was the only one who lived out in the boonies!

Roland

[slobound]

Roland... I was working on the plumbing since Friday. I don't know how many times I went to Home Depot/AquaFlo/Home Do-it Center so far. I'd either forget something or screw something up. I'm surprised I've gotten this far. Here are some updated pics of what I've done. I still need to plumb in my closed loops AMP 3K. That still on the current tank so I can move it until I move the livestock.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/elenatoy/DSC01375.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/elenatoy/DSC01376.jpghttp://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/elenatoy/DSC01377.jpg

[min9a]

hey garrick,
nice tank! ... and sump haha

:)

[fish_fanatik]

Looks really nice. Thanks for showing us all the progress.

[bennyinca]

Nice tank, looks like the plumbing is coming along too!

I know what you mean about trips to HD. When I plumbed my tank I went there so much that it was not even funny. I was calling the cashiers by name after a while...
The worst part was the returns, the lady in returns tries really hard not to roll her eyes when she sees me come in!

[Old Yeller Tang]

Originally posted by slobound
Roland... I was working on the plumbing since Friday. I don't know how many times I went to Home Depot/AquaFlo/Home Do-it Center so far. I'd either forget something or screw something up. I'm surprised I've gotten this far. Here are some updated pics of what I've done. I still need to plumb in my closed loops AMP 3K. That still on the current tank so I can move it until I move the livestock.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/elenatoy/DSC01377.jpg
Garrick,

Plumbing was the hardest part for me. Once that was over, it was a breeze! What took even longer was that I ordered a lot of my plumbing fittings online and some were backordered. Looks like everything is coming along nicely. The one thing I would suggest is black pvc for the returns. You can barely even see mine with the black background. They're cheap too at http://www.savko.com/index.asp.
Also, what are the dimensions of your tank and where did you have the holes drilled for the closed loop? It's gonna take a long time to fill that bad boy up with ro water!lol

Roland

[Old Yeller Tang]

Originally posted by bennyinca
I know what you mean about trips to HD. When I plumbed my tank I went there so much that it was not even funny. I was calling the cashiers by name after a while...
The worst part was the returns, the lady in returns tries really hard not to roll her eyes when she sees me come in!
LOL! The cashier at Lowe's knows me quit well! The return lady at Lowe's does too, and gives me the stink eye as well!lol It was relief to finally return all the unused fittings and have my garage back!:rollface:

[slobound]

Originally posted by min9a
hey garrick,
nice tank! ... and sump haha

:)

Hey, that sump fit perfectly... I still can't believe we fit that in my mustang!

[slobound]

Originally posted by Old Yeller Tang
Garrick,

Plumbing was the hardest part for me. Once that was over, it was a breeze! What took even longer was that I ordered a lot of my plumbing fittings online and some were backordered. Looks like everything is coming along nicely. The one thing I would suggest is black pvc for the returns. You can barely even see mine with the black background. They're cheap too at http://www.savko.com/index.asp.
Also, what are the dimensions of your tank and where did you have the holes drilled for the closed loop? It's gonna take a long time to fill that bad boy up with ro water!lol

Roland

Yeah, I agree... the white sticks out like a sore thumb. That's actually just a temporary return until the locline comes in. Then I'll re-plumb using black. Good thing I put that on a union fitting! =)

The tank is 84"x30"x24"
You are absolutely right about taking forever to fill it. I only have 1/5 of the tank filled so far since 5 o'clock last night. Waiting stinks!!!

[bennyinca]

Originally posted by Old Yeller Tang
LOL! The cashier at Lowe's knows me quit well! The return lady at Lowe's does too, and gives me the stink eye as well!lol It was relief to finally return all the unused fittings and have my garage back!:rollface:

Roland I am still trying to reclaim my garage :lol: I still have a few items to return to HD. I am just giving it some time for the return lady to forget about me hehe
BTW you did a great job on your plumbing!

[Old Yeller Tang]

Thanks Benny!

I'm glad I can steer clear of HD and Lowe's for now!lol

Garrick,

My 170g took a little over 24hrs to fill but I have a 150gpd ro/di. Are you using starboard or sand? I wished I had painted the board that the tank sits on either white or black. It only took Madison and I to lift my tank into the wall but Madison's fingerprints were left behind on his side which will always show until coraline covers it!lol How many pumps you gonna use to run this bad boy?

Roland

[slobound]

Roland,

I'm going to go with sand again. I luckily haven't had any problems with it on my past few tanks so I'm gonna do it again. Not a DSB, but just for aesthetics. I'm just using the panworld (1290 gallons) for my return and the ampmaster 3K for the closed loop. Once the corals start growing out more, I may have to add more but that should be OK for now.

How's your tank lookin?

[Entropy]

Originally posted by slobound
Hahahaha... sure... if people want to come out to the boonies... you're more than welcome at the house.

HEY! We don't live in the boonies... :p


I must have missed it somehow, what did you do with everything in the 150g while you are setting up?

[Tarasco1]

Hey Garrick, make sure and post new pics of your 150 before you break it down. That's a sweet tank, but it looks like you're going to enjoy the new one even more!

[slobound]

Rich, the 150 is still set up... about to go down in the next day or two. I'm moving everything over at that time.

Mike, I'll try to shoot some pics of the 150 before it goes down and post a before and after. Good idea...

[Old Yeller Tang]

Originally posted by slobound
Roland,

I'm going to go with sand again. I luckily haven't had any problems with it on my past few tanks so I'm gonna do it again. Not a DSB, but just for aesthetics. I'm just using the panworld (1290 gallons) for my return and the ampmaster 3K for the closed loop. Once the corals start growing out more, I may have to add more but that should be OK for now.

How's your tank lookin?
Good choice! I think if I did it again, I would have a 1/2" sandbed. I've got so much flow to keep the detritus away that there is no way I have that option of sand in this new tank.

I just started adding livestock to the tank and so far, so good. I know you were out in my neck of the woods awhile while I was away but if you do come around again, stop by!

Roland

[slobound]

Definately Roland... I definately need to check out your new setup. I looks so cool from the pictures. Hopefully mine will look half as nice as yours.

[Old Yeller Tang]

Originally posted by slobound
Hopefully mine will look half as nice as yours.
Yours is already twice as nice as mine since you'll have a sandbed! Plus, you have very nice corals as well.:)

When your tank is all done, I'll have to meet up with you and Scottie this time around.

Roland

[slobound]

Nah, I've lost a lot of corals already because my current tank is still at the old house. I don't get to take care of it like when I was at home. That's why I'm anxious to get everything over. Tank is over halfway full with just water. I'm getting there....

You do need to make a trip out here once I'm all set up.

[moonpod]

Originally posted by slobound

You are absolutely right about taking forever to fill it. I only have 1/5 of the tank filled so far since 5 o'clock last night. Waiting stinks!!!


Ah, my friend you need one of these:
http://homepage.mac.com/moonpod/.Pictures/Equipment%20Pix/DSC01951_1.jpg

hooked up to one of these:
http://homepage.mac.com/moonpod/.Pictures/Equipment%20Pix/DSC01952_1.jpg

700 gpd....

[slobound]

NOW THAT IS WHAT I NEED!!! Holy smokes... 700 gallons per day. That's a lot of water! I could've filled my tank 5 times by now.

[Old Yeller Tang]

Chuck has all the neat gadgets!:D

So is the tank filled now?

[moonpod]

Roland, lemme tell ya, I thought about how long it would take to fill my new tank....I began looking for relatively drastic solutions. This thing is not as expensive as you might think. I got it from airwaterice for much less than I've seen 'em for ANYWHERE. It's pretty darn convenient ya know? I don't bother storing water anymore....

[slobound]

Originally posted by Old Yeller Tang
Chuck has all the neat gadgets!:D

So is the tank filled now?

The tank is filled pretty much filled to where it needs it to be. I'm moving over water from my old tank as well so I don't have to fill the tank full. I'll be taking off for the weekend so I'll try to move everything on Monday. More pics to come after the weekend.

[slobound]

Originally posted by moonpod
Roland, lemme tell ya, I thought about how long it would take to fill my new tank....I began looking for relatively drastic solutions. This thing is not as expensive as you might think. I got it from airwaterice for much less than I've seen 'em for ANYWHERE. It's pretty darn convenient ya know? I don't bother storing water anymore....

Chuck, I just looked over at airwaterice and you're right, it's not as bad as I thought it would be. With your new tank size, I think it was GREAT investement... I seriously don't know how you would fill that monster with a 110GAL/day RO unit! I would sit there and cry...

[tacocat]

That's quite the upgrade.

[greencardgraphics]

are you gonna be selling your old setup?

[slobound]

I will be selling my old setup... but a friend already has dibs on it. If it falls through... I'll let you know!

[slobound]

Originally posted by tacocat
That's quite the upgrade.

Hugo, this thing takes up the whole dining room area wall. I'm excited to see this thing lit! I've just put down same sand and some dried fiji rock. It's coming together....

[tacocat]

Hugo? Hector. Garrick what am I going to do with you?

Do you have a plan to evacuate all the extra heat and humidity? It seems that once you break the 150g mark, the windows start to sweat.:D

I'd be excited to. This really opens the door to the type of fish and corals you can keep also.

[slobound]

Hahahahaha..... sorry Hector! Luckily I have sliding glass door right next to the tank that leads to an atrium. I'm going to have fans blowing that direction.

Yeah, I excited to add new stuff to the tank. I haven't been able to do that for a while now and I'm seaching around now for new corals. Hahahahaha

[slobound]

OK... here's the crummy pic that I just took of my tank filled with livestock. I'll get better pics later but I'm just too tired to grab the nice camera. It took me a lot longer to get everything going. Finally it's up and running. Next part is to face off the stand and canopy. I'm allowed to take a couple days of rest first I hope???

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/ReefTank.jpg

[Wilafur]

so whats the ghostly figure towards the rear center right of the tank? haha.

[Old Yeller Tang]

Hey! Where did the white pvc fittings go!lol

Looking really good! That was pretty quick actually but I doubt you'll take a few days off for rest! Your gonna want this thing done asap!:D

[slobound]

OK... just tried to take a better picture of the tank. These 20K's are just killing me with phototaking. I need to learn how to use this camera. Hopefully this picture is a little more clear.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/newtank.jpg

[sberman]

hey boss

looking good ask gregr to come take some pics for ya

[sberman]

hey garrick take a break on sunday and come down and check out tats new store i will be there around 2 or so

[29reef]

Lots of room to grow up. looking good. Dont slack off now you are almost there.....LOL

[AtlanticReef]

Wow! very nice tank. it looks like you have many corals but a little bit of live rock.

[Wilafur]

looks sweet garrick!

[slobound]

Hey Guys,

Thanks... there's definately more room in this tank than my previous. I did lose a few corals during the move but most everything else is making a good comeback.

[gcarroll]

Beautiful, what else can I say. Can't wait to see it a year later!

[Old Yeller Tang]

Originally posted by slobound
[B]Hey Guys,

Thanks... there's definately more room in this tank than my previous. [B]
And your fishies are gonna love ya' for it!:D

Excellent job, Garrick!

I could use your expertise in aquascaping!:thumbsup:

[slobound]

Originally posted by sberman
hey garrick take a break on sunday and come down and check out tats new store i will be there around 2 or so

Sorry I missed you on Sunday. I was down in LA. I do need to swing by the shop and check it out though. You'll have to come by and see the tank person.

[slobound]

Originally posted by Old Yeller Tang
And your fishies are gonna love ya' for it!:D

Excellent job, Garrick!

I could use your expertise in aquascaping!:thumbsup:

Roland, the fishies have adapted to the extra tank length and swim like they're doing laps in a pool.

As for aquascaping, you do just fine with yours... I like the way your tank looks.

[tacocat]

What's the fish list look like so far?

[Entropy]

Originally posted by slobound
You'll have to come by and see the tank person.

How about the rest of us you slacker! :p

[GBR1980]

WOW! ddddrrroooolllll .....

[slobound]

Originally posted by Entropy
How about the rest of us you slacker! :p

Hahahah... sorry Rich... you guys are all welcome to stop by anytime. Just let me know when!

[slobound]

Originally posted by tacocat
What's the fish list look like so far?

Hector,

My fish list is already pretty high for this tank and I have a tang fetish.

(1) red sea sailfin tang
(1) powder brown tang
(1) purple tang
(1) yellow tang
(1) scopas tang
(1) powder blue tang
(1) hybrid mimic eibili/halfback tang
(1) sunburst anthias
(3) lyretail anthias
(1) lawnmover blenny
(1) yellow watchman goby
(1) choati wrasse
(1) leopard wrasse
(1) ornate leopard wrasse
(1) helfrichi firefish

(2) false percs in the sump

265 gallon tank + 90 gallon sump

[tacocat]

Cool. You need a fairy wrasse of some sorts and a possum wrasse.

[slobound]

Yeah, I really do want to add a nice fairy wrasse like a linneatus or rhomboid... the possum wrasse is cool too. Definately on the fish list.

[tacocat]

I watched a possum wrasse hunt in Tubs's tank. Those little buggers move their eyes like chameleons. They actually swim around the structure and pick stuff off.

I guess what I am hinting at is that I believe they will eat monti-branchs.

I have a solar wrasse and I recommend them because they seem to be more people friendly than other fairies. My friend has a rhomboid and a lineatus. They aren't bad looking.

If you are looking at lineatus wrasses, I would look at pink margin wrasses. They look almost identical to lineatus wrasses, execpt they have a red tail. IMO, they are better looking and half the price if not less than a lineatus.

13th post.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=463869&perpage=&pagenumber=1

[BRISK495]

great tank!! just tagging along.....

[slobound]

Hey guys, sorry for the lack of updates... been kinda busy. Well, I had a chance to shoot some more pics yesterday. Thought I would share. Gotta give major props to Frank at Tropical Reef Oasis for hooking me up with a great tank at a great price. I'm so excited to have so much more room to buy more corals!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/DSC_0486.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/DSC_0485.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/echinata3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/hoekesemai3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/plana2.jpg

[slobound]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/pulchra2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/yellowtort2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/bluematrix1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/DSC_0168.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/DSC_0486.jpg

[Wilafur]

is that the same pm? that sucker is growing fast!

[Entropy]

I love the little islands. You sure have a lot of those pretty stick looking corals. :p

[slobound]

Originally posted by Wilafur
is that the same pm? that sucker is growing fast!

Yup Wilbur... that's the same PM. It's doing pretty well in my tank

[Detritivore]

which PM are you guys talking about? the one in the 4th pic?

[slobound]

4th picture from the second set of pictures

[slobound]

OK... finally... some updates on the tank. It's been running for a couple of months now and I'm trying to be patient with the tank. Greg Rothschild came over to the house last weekend and took some pictures for me. Check it out:

265 gallon tank
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/265fulltank.jpg

cali tort
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/tort6.jpg

yellow tort
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/yellowtort5.jpg

my new mystery wrasse
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/mysterywrasse1.jpg

alligator pipe fish
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/alligatorpipefish1.jpg

If you wanna check out other pics... see
http://www.gregrothschildphotography.com/garrick2/index.htm

Enjoy

[reven]

Absolutely amazing tank. Makes me not want to finish selling mine off. Great Job.

[slobound]

Thanks

[moonpod]

Garrick, that is an absolutely phenomenal pix of the pipe fish....

[codybug]

That pipefish picture is truely awesome! Doesn't get much better then that. Very detailed. Really shows the personality of the fish.

[slobound]

Originally posted by moonpod
Garrick, that is an absolutely phenomenal pix of the pipe fish....

Chuck, I wish I could take credit for shooting the pics of the pipefish... unfortunately, my photography skills suck. They were shot by GregR. Thank goodness he can shoot photos or else I'd still have crappy pics of my tank.

[Project Reef]

Noiiice! How's that helfrichi doing for you Garrick? How long have you had the little guy?

[slobound]

Ali, I've had that helfrichi for about a year and a half now. It's doing really well. Can't complain. How's your tank coming along... I wanna see pics!

[slobound]

Here's another pic of the pipefish
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/dragonfacepipefish1.jpg

[pookstreet]

Wow, beautiful pipefish and an awesome tank. Do you have trouble feeding it? I have read that pipefishes in general are very finicky eaters.

[proraptor]

Man that is one awesome tank...I love the aquascaping!

[slobound]

Originally posted by pookstreet
Wow, beautiful pipefish and an awesome tank. Do you have trouble feeding it? I have read that pipefishes in general are very finicky eaters.

Ya know... I don't spot feed for the pipefish... I just let it hunt around the tank for pods and it seems to be doing just fine

[dodgerblew]

Beautiful Garrick...Awesome...Do I need to come see you?:)...I have been out of action for awhile with some health issues

[slobound]

Hey Rik... you gotta come by and pick up the stuff sitting in my sump... hahaha

[dodgerblew]

Ok...I think my son has some soccer coming up real soon in Simi too!

If the peeps only knew what was hanging out in the sump. Definitely the nicest sump around:lol:

I need to talk with you about where to order my new tank. My guy fell thru on mine. Is your cell still the same?

[slobound]

same cell phone number

[dodgerblew]

I will call today. I have some time in afternoon.

[dodgerblew]

BTW- I checked schedule. My son plays in Simi Sept 24 @ 1:30. LMK if that day is cool when I call

[tacocat]

Some bad crappy pics I took.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/hectina/ENDSLO.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/hectina/PBTSLO.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/hectina/SAIL.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/hectina/SUMPSLO.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/hectina/REACTORSLO.jpg

[drake66]

:bigeyes: NICE

[slobound]

Cool... thanks Hector! It was nice to finally meet you and your wife in person. Thanks for the frags and let me know if you want me to send you anything!

[Old Yeller Tang]

Those aren't bad pics at all, Hector!

Usually hard to take good pics with 20k's. You make Garrick's tank look like he's running 10k's.

Ofcourse, nothing like seeing it in person!

Awesome tank, Garrick!

Good to see you guys and Scotty as well again, not to mention, Hector's cool wife. Any wife who hangs out with reefers gets two thumbs up in my book!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thank you guys a million for helping me out!;)

Roland

[tacocat]

No worries. If I had a tripod, I could have taken some nice pics. At least I got a pic of that balsto.

No problem on the frags. Guys, take really good care of that baby blue bottlebrush/deepwater thing. It is the only one I have ever seen and it came in as a W/C.:D

Garrick, I may have to take you up on the offer. I noticed that you are running a little lean on the echinos and acans. I'll try to fix that.:D

It was nice visiting with you all. It has been too long.

[sberman]

nice seeing u guys sorry i could not get there earlier but still had a nice visit ---- glad to see some of the old reefers still doing there thing ----
garrick your tank is still looking awesome buddy !!!!!!!!!!!!gets better everytime i see it ---- guess i have to keep mine up and going !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!maybe ?????????

[slobound]

Hey... no problem Hector... I'm only a PM away. Just let me know what you want.

Roland... maybe you'll have to make more trips up this way? Hahaha

Scott, keep it GOING!!!!

[tacocat]

It was good seeing you again Scott. Quit tempting me Garrick! :D

[Old Yeller Tang]

Garrick,

You're far away but at least there's no traffic going your way. I get to totally avoid the 101! It worked out well for me to head out to the greater LA area, even on a Friday! I know I regretted not going the last time when I was suppose to ride up with Lyndel. Next time I do come by, we're all playing a round of golf. That means you too, Hector!

Like Scott said, "good to see the ole' timers again"!

Roland

[golfish]

Originally posted by Old Yeller Tang
Next time I do come by, we're all playing a round of golf.

You know, we've all kicked that idea around and around for a few years now. Do ya think maybe we can all get together and setup a time and place.

WE just need to figure out a course that would be fair for everybody to drive too..How about Los Serranos or Green Rivers?

I kind like Sierra lakes but guys in the OC might not want to drive that far.

I wouldn't mind setting things up but I'm going to need cash up front. I know how things go, we're all talk till its time to get off your arse and go. If we can get the tee times paid for up front then maybe we'll be able to do this.

[sberman]

we should all just meet up for dinner somewhere sometime ---- see how many we can get together --- just talk and hang out

[supernareg]

^^^ i'm down

[john37]

haha

[Old Yeller Tang]

Getting a tee time is tough since we all live far from eachtother and have different schedules. Would definitely be nice though.

If not, look out Hooters!:D

[tacocat]

Hey I'd be willing to make it. Golfing in LA is fun. Thus far, I have golfed at Rancho San Joaquin, Strawberry Farms, and Oak Hills. Each time it was a blast. A really expensive blast.:D

[tacocat]

I got home and checked these out. They came out kinda nice.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/hectina/DSCN0028.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/hectina/DSCN0020.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/hectina/DSCN0039.jpg

[tacocat]

Garrick, I forgot to ask. How tall is the stand?

[pookstreet]

Wow, that's a beauty in the last pic. What is that, if you don't mind me asking? Thanks.

[slobound]

That last one is a A. plana aquacultured. I really like that coral... it has really good polyp extension.

Hector, the stand is approx 44" tall.

[pookstreet]

Thanks for the reply. You have a very beautiful tank BTW. I love all the nice colonies. Can't wait until my corals grow out. Now I just have a ton of little sticks in my 30 gallon :D

[tacocat]

Bump because you haven't added any pics of your fairy wrasses.

Thanks for letting stop by to bug you and your lovely wife. You need to buy that Deltec at Tat's.

[slobound]

Alright alright Hector... I'll start posting more pics. I need to get the camera out.

[slobound]

Ok, as requested... pics of fairy wrasses

pink margin
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/Crubrimarginatus2photo.jpg

flame
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/Cjordani1photo.jpg

pyle's
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/DSC_1161.jpg

[slobound]

Here's a pic of my juvi regal too
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/DSC_1149.jpg

I've also added a rosy fin pair and a female hawaiian flame

[dodgerblew]

Garrick,
when did you get a Regal and how's it doin' with the polyps? I guess ok or it'd be sump city :)

[slobound]

Hahahaha... I couldn't help myself when I saw this juvi. I kept him in the sump for a long while debating on whether I wanted to add it to the display. So far so good... no picking at anything but sponge. All the zoos are safe so far!

[dodgerblew]

Good luck with it. Mine was great for a couple weeks, then ate about $1500+ worth of zoas, then died. Talk about your double whammy!:eek1:

My turbo knocked my blue prostrata frag off its place and it fell into the orange crush acan and was history by the time I saw it, so please keep me in mind for the next fragging. All others have encrusted. The prostrata had encrusted as well. Maybe we can get together soon!

[JE]

im in the process of staining/glazing my stand and canopy. i was wondering if you can post a full shot photo from the front so i can check out the colors.....thanks

[dodgerblew]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7077120#post7077120 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jjb81speed
im in the process of staining/glazing my stand and canopy. i was wondering if you can post a full shot photo from the front so i can check out the colors.....thanks
check out pg 3 and 4

[slobound]

more pics of fairy wrasses

rosy fin male
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/31571C_bathyphilus1.jpg

rosy fun female
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/31571C_bathyphilus1F_.jpg

rhomboid
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/31571C_rhomboid1.jpg

C pylei
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/31571C_pylei1.jpg

C jordani female
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/31571C_jordani1F.jpg

[turtlespd]

Damn G,

Your collection has grown quite a bit. Im glad to see atleast one of the old reefers manage to keep things going.

Btw sent you pm

[slobound]

Yeah, slowly growing... I'm going through a fish phase right now but I'm just about out of room for fish. I just cleared out my PM box. Sorry it was full!

[radone]

Sorry if I missed this but what was the measurements of your tank?

How's the floor holding up, just curious as I'm about ready to start putting in hardwood flooring.

Love the wrasse's A?

Nice setup man :D

[Gooli]

beautiful setup....if i may say...your tank looks so much better when the background is all black...any plans on cleaning up that algae?

[Brewen]

Awesome tank thanks for sharing the set up and all the posting in progress. Cannot wait to see it fully grown

[DirtySouth056]

how many fish do you have as of now? Tank looks great, I agree will look even better w/ the algae removed.

[slobound]

Couple more fish shots from last night

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/Crubrimarginatus4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/Cpylei2.jpg

[slobound]

Here are a couple more tank residents
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/hippo1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/elenasversionyellowtang.jpg

[slobound]

And yes, I'm still keeping coral... here's a good shot of my crayola table
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/crayolatable1.jpg

[moonpod]

I like the rosy fins....gotta find some of those....that or maybe johnson's....looking good Garrick!

[slobound]

Yeah, the rosy fins are great! I know they had 2 good looking males at Tat's earlier this week. They're supposed to be having a sale this weekend on livestock.

[moonpod]

Can't make it out there....but if Tat's got 'em maybe that means they are around....

[microbubbles]

hey garrick- what was your method of keeping your mystery wrasse from getting all crazy w/ the new aquisitions, bro? esp knowng that the mystery was in there first? no territorial bs?

[dodgerblew]

Hey Garrick

Call me. I can come out today(after church) or tomorrow. Looks like we missed a good swap! Garrick, allow me to respond to microbubbles:
The method is called "sump-dwelling" :D

[slobound]

Just messing around with the camera and shot these:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/pipefish1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/pompomcrab1.jpg

[slobound]

It's been a long time since I've updated any pictures of my tank. Here are a few shots to start the year:

Japanese purple rim cap
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/japanesecap12-13-06.jpg

Oregon tort
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/oregontort12-13-06.jpg

Purple Monster
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/PM12-8-06.jpg

original "Blue Matrix"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/bluematrix1-4-07.jpg

Steve Elias stag
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/steveelias12-13-06.jpg

Full tank shot
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/slobound/tankretouch1-4-07.jpg

[Gooli]

looking great! i love your tank.

you and I both are using the G4-X....are u happy with it? are u wet skimming or dry? did you mod it at all?

[slobound]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8906761#post8906761 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gooliver
looking great! i love your tank.

you and I both are using the G4-X....are u happy with it? are u wet skimming or dry? did you mod it at all?

Thanks!

I'm pretty happy with my skimmer. I tend to skim more wet but I try to keep up with water changes every 3 weeks to replenish what's been skimmed out. I've done the gate valve mod and the re-circulating mod on the skimmer right when I got it. I don't know how it would run without those mods.

[pookstreet]

WOW!!! Beautiful tank and corals. Make me really want to upgrade to a bigger tank.

[lowbudget]

nice tank. like the purple rim cap.

[dodgerblew]

looking good G. Those Blue hippos have grown!!!

[slobound]

pookstreet: If you have the space, the bigger tank is soooo worth it. Your options of what you can keep and stability of the tank increase so much!

lowbudget: The purple rim is still one of my favorite caps out there. I lost my original colony years ago. Luckily, a friend still had a piece and I got it back last year. Thanks goodness it grows fast!

Rik: Yeah, the blue hippos have grown a lot. It's funny cause they were the same size when I got them. Now, one is MUCH larger than the other. I guess one just steals all the food!

[Bergovoy]

Is that insulation under the tank.
I thought insulation on aglass tank was bad?? Ho wis that working for you??

Bill

[slobound]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8914021#post8914021 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bergovoy
Is that insulation under the tank.
I thought insulation on aglass tank was bad?? Ho wis that working for you??

Bill

Hi Bill, I placed 1/2" styrofoam between the tank and the stand to take away any imperfections on the top of the stand, just in case. I haven't had any problems using the foam. I also know a few other reefers in the area with big glass tanks that have done this as well. No problems from them either.

[Bergovoy]

I was told absolutely, positivly NO.

so I did not do it. And I worked extra hard to minimze those imperfections. It would have been easier to plan for the insulation..

Thanks for the reply.

Bill

[slobound]

Hmmm... never heard that before. I've used it on my last two glass tanks. I'd be curious to hear the reason why you shouldn't use it?

[Bergovoy]

I was told taht the glass tanks are supported from the perimeter glass, not the bottom glass, and byplacing insulation under it, that would transfer the weight to the bottom glass, which was not designed to carry the weight of the tank and water.

So support only the edges.

It kind of makes sense but then again it doesnt. The perimeter glass supports the bottom glass through the silicone, so whether the silicone supports the wieght of the tank from teh bottom glass then transfers it to the perimertor or visa versa, does not make sense...

I am not an engineer so I can not give an answer, onlhy relay what I was told.

Bill

[Old Yeller Tang]

Hey Garrick!

Tank is looking sweeter than ever! Funny how fish grow at different rates. Mine have been the same size for over a year so I guess it's as good as it gets for mine.:D
Since we have the same tank, I bet your base glass is 2" thick as well. Should be a solid foundation.
Keep up the good work! Good to see some of the old timers hangin' in there! I threw in the white towel awhile back. When I'm ready, I'll jump back in! I've been busy spending my money trying to soup up the Land Cruiser instead.:bum:

Roland

[sberman]

wow beautiful tank -------- wish i could have something like that --------and all those beautiful corals -------lol

how u doing there mr. garrick and sir roland

[gcarroll]

Hey Scott, good to see you still lurking these boards. I guess you have not lost total interest in th hobby.

[sberman]

just trying to finish a few more things at the house and make sure the misses is ok and then i might start up a small tank
(400-600 gallon)

[Old Yeller Tang]

Sir Scott!! You're gonna give it another go around?? Nice! Hope you and the Ms. are doing fine. Maybe we can have a ole' timers reef reunion sometime this year!:cool:

[sberman]

yep cant stay away completly -------reunion sounds good ------would be nice to see (some) of the ole timers

[Project Reef]

Lookin' good bro!

I got my 'I Miss Scott' t-shirt on right now. Reunion huh? Sounds good.

Roland, we need to put something together like back in '02 at Larry's house.

[sberman]

looks like everybody is comming out of the woodwork today -----
how ya doing ali ------- garrick sorry to hijack ur thread------ ur tank does look good ---glad to see u kept it up ---

let me know if u do get a reunion together ----not a swap ---so we can talk about good ole times

[slobound]

I love seeing all the old guys on my thread. You guys are always welcome to hijack! Typing from my phone so I'll add more when I get home.

[slobound]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8918897#post8918897 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sberman
just trying to finish a few more things at the house and make sure the misses is ok and then i might start up a small tank
(400-600 gallon)

Hey Scott... would you get that nano tank started already?! Need you back in the hobby so I have someone to trade with.

Otherwise, how's everything? Long time no talk...

[slobound]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8918462#post8918462 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Old Yeller Tang
Hey Garrick!

Tank is looking sweeter than ever! Funny how fish grow at different rates. Mine have been the same size for over a year so I guess it's as good as it gets for mine.:D
Since we have the same tank, I bet your base glass is 2" thick as well. Should be a solid foundation.
Keep up the good work! Good to see some of the old timers hangin' in there! I threw in the white towel awhile back. When I'm ready, I'll jump back in! I've been busy spending my money trying to soup up the Land Cruiser instead.:bum:

Roland

Cool... cars and reefs... that's my nemesis. I saw pics of your pond. That looks pretty cool! We definately should get the old timer's together again.

[slobound]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8919253#post8919253 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Project Reef
Lookin' good bro!

I got my 'I Miss Scott' t-shirt on right now. Reunion huh? Sounds good.

Roland, we need to put something together like back in '02 at Larry's house.

Ali, what's happening man... how's your reef doing? I haven't seen updates in a long time. Post some pics already!!! Hahaha

[Konadog]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8919253#post8919253 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Project Reef
Roland, we need to put something together like back in '02 at Larry's house. Ali, that was the one swap I missed, but I did send my neighbor. I just spoke with Larry a few weeks ago, he's still around.

Scott, I have a small bow front you can use, make a great nano ;)


As far as insulation under the tank, it depends on the tank. Usually if the tank has a built on frame, then you don't want to put anything under the bottom glass. The frame is the suport.
Now if you look at a Lee Mar tank, they come with a plastic sheet covering the entire bottom. These you can run something under the entire bottom (like foam insulation) as long as any imperfections are slight and don't cause any pressure points.

[Bergovoy]

The issue with the insulation was to make up for slight imperfections, or inother words if there was a slight low spot, the insulation would distribute the weight and the insulation woudl compress at the adjacent high area and overall leverl out over that slight low spot... (did that make sense? IT did when I thougth it??)

[Konadog]

I understand completely Bill, I have a 1/2" piece under my tank. I just wanted to point out that it depends on the tank style if it's acceptable to do. Also, this isn't to make up for bad craftsmanship of a stand. You would be amazed as how little foam compresses when spread out over a large area.

[Bergovoy]

I am not sure if it is a matter of bad craftsmenship or not as wood is not perfectly straight. there are bound to be some warping or crowing of the wood.

Plywood helps in covering the studs which would show the most imperfections, by averaging out the imperfections over a span of the piece of plywood. The insulation I think might do a little bit more.

Each consecutive layer spreads the issues even further and over a longer distance.

Like joint compoud on new drywall. Each coat is applied over a larger and larger surface area. The high spot is still there, but if it is compared to aspot right next to it, you will not be able to tell,but if you were able to take a laser to it, you will still see that the high spot is still there, and actually got a bit higer then original...

Not real sure about that analogy, but it is out there now...

Your point about wher ethe suppor tis located is important though. if the frame is on the edge, the support should not transfer it to the bottom glass, again that is what I was told.. And in one line of thought, it makes sense..

I wish I used it, even if iwas just for the edges. I dont see how it could hurt as long as the force remains ont he edge, and like you said, the insulation does not give that much in compression

Thanks,

Bill

[Old Yeller Tang]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8919253#post8919253 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Project Reef
Roland, we need to put something together like back in '02 at Larry's house.
Ahh, the good ole' days. I show up with a bunch of softies and lps' and everyone else, stonies!lol I was like, "is that even alive!"
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8919253#post8919253 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Project Reef
let me know if u do get a reunion together ----not a swap ---so we can talk about good ole times
Scottie, let us know when it's ok to crash your place!!!:D

[rockindacheeks]

your tank is amazing. good job!

[lowbudget]

let me know if you frag the cap.

[tacocat]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8918462#post8918462 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Old Yeller Tang
I've been busy spending my money trying to soup up the Land Cruiser instead.:bum:

Roland

You own a TLC? I didn't know that. Is it an FJ40?

[Old Yeller Tang]

Hey Hector,

How's it going? I have the FZJ80. The one with the ageless body style!:smokin:

[tacocat]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8936516#post8936516 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Old Yeller Tang
Hey Hector,

How's it going? I have the FZJ80. The one with the ageless body style!:smokin:

Mmm, I love solid axles. I got rid of my lemon and picked up a new FJ Cruiser. I thought they were ugly at first (then I saw what they can do offroad). It sucks that it is IFS, but with a few mods, they can hold their own in the rocks.

Garrick,

Any equipment changes?

[slobound]

Nope... still drivin' the mustang. Oh, I did get a little beater truck take save some miles on the mustang though.

OHHHH... you're talking about the reef. No changes real changes there. I've been having a string of things breaking on me. My CO2 regulator just went ka-put so I ordered another one, should be coming in today. My sea-swirl finally stopped working (after 3.5 years). I'm gonna send it in for repair. One of my Helios bulbs stopped firing after 2 months, so I just replaced it with one of my old radiums for now.

I guess, when it rains... it pours!

[tacocat]

What no more sumps in the Stang?

[slobound]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9047884#post9047884 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tacocat
What no more sumps in the Stang?

No... never again! Got your VM, I'll give you a call tomorrow.

[Konadog]

Garrick, I forgot to ask you what your lighting schedule was when I was over. How many hours do you run your lights?

[slobound]

Hey Ken... I run my lights for 8 hours every evening starting at 5.

[Konadog]

Thanks Garrick. I want to keep parameters as close as possible to yours, so far so good.

[slobound]

Cool! Let me know how the frags do over time. I just installed the seaswirl last night. Working great...

[Gisho]

Great tank Garrick. Congrats! :beer:

Just noticed you're in the timbuktoo Simi Valley as well.

I'm between Sycamore and Erringer off of Alamo St.

Let me know if I can come by and check out your tank and of course you're welcome to swing by my pad as well. I have 270, 150 and 100 gallon tanks and desperately need to thin some of my SPS.

Don't ask me to name what I've got, cause I'm terrrible w/ names...i just know what I think looks puuuuurty and grows well :lol: .

For example, I've got a blue stag of some type with really bright blue tips that is outgrowing my 100 gallon tank to the waterline and branching out and shadowing all the corals beneath it. I've fragged it so many times already into my other tanks that I just don't know what to do with it anymore. Maybe we could swap some frags!

Anyway, let me know and I can pm you my cell #.

Gisho

[Bergovoy]

Oh, I think I might be able to help on clearing down some of your sps...

Let me know, and I am there for you!!! Just because it is a good thing to help your neighbor!!!

[slobound]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9054158#post9054158 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gisho
Great tank Garrick. Congrats! :beer:

Just noticed you're in the timbuktoo Simi Valley as well.

I'm between Sycamore and Erringer off of Alamo St.

Let me know if I can come by and check out your tank and of course you're welcome to swing by my pad as well. I have 270, 150 and 100 gallon tanks and desperately need to thin some of my SPS.

Don't ask me to name what I've got, cause I'm terrrible w/ names...i just know what I think looks puuuuurty and grows well :lol: .

For example, I've got a blue stag of some type with really bright blue tips that is outgrowing my 100 gallon tank to the waterline and branching out and shadowing all the corals beneath it. I've fragged it so many times already into my other tanks that I just don't know what to do with it anymore. Maybe we could swap some frags!

Anyway, let me know and I can pm you my cell #.

Gisho

Hey Gisho,

Just sent you a PM.

[Gisho]

Got it. I'll give you a call. ;)

[Gisho]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9054239#post9054239 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bergovoy
Oh, I think I might be able to help on clearing down some of your sps...

Let me know, and I am there for you!!! Just because it is a good thing to help your neighbor!!!

Sure Bill...seeing as how you SAVED my Midas Blenny by giving him mouth-to-mouth resuscitation I owe you! :lol:

BTW, he is quite happy and fat in my 100 gallon tank, despite his 20 minute out of water experience! :lol:

You are quite a drive from me (about 45 minutes i think), but if you want to make the drive, sure come on over! :D

[tacocat]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9054158#post9054158 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gisho
I have 270, 150 and 100 gallon tanks and desperately need to thin some of my SPS.

I have a black koi tub you are welcome too. :lol:

[Gisho]

My stupid So Cal Edison bill is over $1,300/month already plus if I put one more water containing vessel in, or even near, "her" house, my wife will ABSOLUTELY KILL ME...so thanks for the offer, but no can do! :lol:

[tacocat]

I hear you.

No problem. It was more of an inside joke. I borrowed a black tub from Garrick last year (yeah it's been that long). I'm finally returning it.

You guys going to that So-Cal CFM?

[dodgerblew]

G,

let me know if you are going to SC-CFM

[slobound]

Hey guys.... wasn't planning on going to the SC-CFM. Have some plans the Saturday before but I it might be a good time to catch up with old friends. You guys gonna be out there?

[tacocat]

I smells me a plan brewing.

[Gisho]

Forgive my ignorance. What is "SC-CFM" and when/where is it?

[tacocat]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9056259#post9056259 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gisho
Forgive my ignorance. What is "SC-CFM" and when/where is it?

PM sent

[Bergovoy]

Gisho,

IT was way more then twenty minutes. I was at REnes house for longer then that, then the drive to my house, then the time it took you to drive to my house. I am thinking miracle happened in my house...

Thanks for the offer, I will let you know when my tank is ready. I still making sure things are stable, and will only take on some less expensive very easy and sturdy corals to start.

I really need to finish the aquascaping, and think I need to clear out some of the live rock I picked up. Too much of a good thing, and I have no room. Did you get hte info on the coral meet thing? Iw ill be going too, maybe you can drop by my house on the way out if you are going that way. My tank should be okay by then.

Bill

[Gisho]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9056321#post9056321 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tacocat
PM sent

Thank you! Wish I could make it.

[Gisho]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9059187#post9059187 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bergovoy
Gisho,

IT was way more then twenty minutes. I was at REnes house for longer then that, then the drive to my house, then the time it took you to drive to my house. I am thinking miracle happened in my house...

Thanks for the offer, I will let you know when my tank is ready. I still making sure things are stable, and will only take on some less expensive very easy and sturdy corals to start.

I really need to finish the aquascaping, and think I need to clear out some of the live rock I picked up. Too much of a good thing, and I have no room. Did you get hte info on the coral meet thing? Iw ill be going too, maybe you can drop by my house on the way out if you are going that way. My tank should be okay by then.

Bill

Yeah Bill, you are right. It probably survived in a little hole or crevice in the live rock for at least 1 hour if not more! Maybe a world-record?!?!? That guy is a tough little son-of-a-gun.

Anyway, yeah, I've got some sps that grow like weeds, are quite hardy and pretty to boot. I have some that even survived a massive kalkwasser overdose and subsequent pH spike recently in my 150 gallon tank :eek1: . Feel free to let me know if/when your tank is ready.

Tacocat was kind enough to PM me the info, but it is just soooooo far away for me. Sounds like fun though and I hope all of you who go have a blast.

Thank for the invite and I wish I could see your tank in person up-and-running. I hope you post pics of your tank soon. It sure looked like a beauty.:beer:

[Detritivore]

Awesome tank, Garrick! Hope mine looks like that some day.

[Bergovoy]

Having the fish survive like it did makes me wonder about all the precautions we take to acclimate and adjust and fine tune to avoid and or minimize shock or stress.

Certainly life in the open water is not all the stress free

And no I am not advocating that we throw fish into new water or not take reccomended steps and measure to minimize, just recognizing that maybe some fish (maybe a lot of fish)are tougher then what we give them credit for.

If you know your corals and what they maybe capable of tolerating, then let me know what my tank needs to be at to be responsibly take on some new cultures.

I will be completing the chiller installation this weekend, since I am noticing a 3 degree swing in temp due to my new lights, and that is with moderate ambient temperatures. If the weather returns to normal So CAl temps, I will need that chiller up and running.

I am also close to finishing my electrical system. Everything will be nice and clean, but the weak link in my system is that I am tying onto my existing circuits, and adding all this equipment and lighting and chillers is putting my demand at the circuit breaker limits, not counting that that breaker is already used for all my other recpticles...

I may have to get an electrician out here to branch off from my existing light circuit to feed my lights, instead of feeding them from my recepticle circuit will help out tremendously, as my lighting circuit demand is on the low side of , (exisiting lighting demand)

I know how to do it and where I can branch from, but since the branch and wiring will have to be run surface mounted, I want the conduit or raceways to be nice and clean. Something I am not capable of doing.

And the convention in Ontario is not that much further past my house. Maybe another half hour drive.

But I understand, you have at least a half hour from your house to mine, plus the extra road to Ontario...

I hated communting, and cant understand how it is that so many people do it everyday....

Take care.

Bill

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9055725#post9055725 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by slobound
Hey guys.... wasn't planning on going to the SC-CFM. Have some plans the Saturday before but I it might be a good time to catch up with old friends. You guys gonna be out there?

Looks like I'm going to be there.