Zoanthid Information Draft

[tekknoschtev]

If your zoas seem to be losing color:
Green Buttons Turning Brown (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=605260)
Zoo Problem (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=622814)
My Zoo Losed The Color (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=601252)
Color Under 6,5k PC Prop System... (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=591434)

Zoanthid Compatibility:
So Zoa's and Rics Get Along Fine Right?? (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=622594)

Zoanthid Growth Rates:
How Slow do PPE Grow? (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=622477)
Zoo Growth Under Actinic (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=617351)
ZOOS Growing?????? (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=609296) How Fast Do They Grow? (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=596070)
Let's See The Growth!!! (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=586173)

Zoanthid Identification:
Difference Between Zoo's and Paly's (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=626249)
Are These Zoas (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=625611)
ID Plz (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=589451)

Zoanthid Placement in reef tanks:
How Much Light Before Color Loss Occurs? (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=627257) What Lighting Works? (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=628648) Placement of Zoos (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=590537)

Hitch Hikers/Pests with Zoanthids:
Yellow Sponge taking over Zoanthids (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=629077)
Nudi Eggs? (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=623626)
Id (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=623434)
Worm Eating My Zoas! (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=608653)
Small Maroon and Gold Blobs Killing Zoanthids (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=618846)
New to Zoanthids... They Came with Starfish (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=611524)
Predatory Snails (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=579214)
Nudibranchs No More (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=533167)
Nudibranch Eating Wrasses (http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1167318)

Melting/Rotting/Fungused Zoanthids:
How Do You Get Rid of White Fungus (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=604324)
Anyone Have These White Spots on Zoas? (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=586366)
Help, Pink Zoo's Not Opening After 2 Weeks (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=625371)
Zoos Closing and Dissolving??? (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=598559)
Zos Wont Open (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=591395)

General Zoanthid Care:
Removing Nudi's and Eggs (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=613025)
I Don't Have Lugol's But Will Either of These Work? (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=611394)
Zoo Dip (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=451720)
New Zoo Owner... Need Some Help (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=596326)
Acclimation a Total Waste of Time? (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=607902)
Frequent Water Changes Affect Zoas? How? (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=608785)
Inspect Before You Buy!!!! (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=601114)
Zoanthid Mortality, A Discussion (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=664258)

Fragging Zoanthids:
Epoxy for Zoa (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=621715)
How Do I Frag My Zoo's. Some of Them are Taking Over (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=606861)
Attaching Time (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=614212)

Cautions with Zoanthids (toxins):
HELP!!! Palytoxin???? (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=605364)
A Warning About Toxicity. A MUST Read. (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=158730)

For an interesting gallery with many of the named zoanthids, visit

http://www.zoaid.com. Created by a member on RC, and maintained

pretty well. Good identification of many different rare zoanthids.

I'm fairly confident that I havent covered everything, but I dont want to recreate the entire zoanthid forum in one post, so I 'tried' to limit myself on each section. Hopefully this is a good start, if others would like to PM me links to other threads they might find useful, I'd be glad to edit it, and after maybe a week or so, I'll throw together a finalized version that I can talk to a mod about making a sticky. I'd like this thread to be for suggestions on additions/subtractions. I only searched back maybe 20 pages in the forum, so I'm sure I've not covered everything.

[whodah]

good job! :D

[Nagel]

Excellent start!

I've already made this a sticky....

[tekknoschtev]

Originally posted by Nagel
Excellent start!

I've already made this a sticky....

Thanks, this is by no means a final version, and I'm sure it'll go through many edits as I recieve ideas and comments, but heck, for a 3am project it was fun.

[whodah]

one thing that's asked quite frequently is:

where do i buy neat zoas?

there are a few threads on it... but i cannot seem to seach 'em out? i dunno... my search contains 'where buy' and i get a weird 'oops' message... maybe cause i'm using the criteria 'where' which is a mysql key word.

at any rate, a couple links to those threads would be nifty i think! :)

[tekknoschtev]

I was considering that, but isnt that essentially advertising? I suppose if the general consensus is 'go for it' then they could be added without a problem, but it might cause more problems than its worth. However, a link to the reviews (I forget the title) of the online vendors might be useful.

[SuperFishy]

woah, just noticed this, GJ tekk

[whodah]

Originally posted by tekknoschtev
I was considering that, but isnt that essentially advertising? I suppose if the general consensus is 'go for it' then they could be added without a problem, but it might cause more problems than its worth. However, a link to the reviews (I forget the title) of the online vendors might be useful.

i definetly see your point...

i was trying to think of what else was asked every other week or so if ya know what i mean! :)

but i definetly see where yer goin w/ that and, fwiw, am content listing or not listing that info. :)

[tekknoschtev]

We'll see, I'm glad people are participating - exactly what I'm looking for, the things that get asked EVERY week. I'll talk to a moderator and see how it works on the forums. Some businesses may not appreciate it, especially if there is negative feedback on their establishment.

[Mr. Ugly]

This is great!

[my2girls]

I agree!

[BradL.]

This is a great idea!

[fishylad]

I just got some as a gift you could say and had no idea about them or what to do with them. I found this thread and am so happy. It appears all my questions will be answered here. Thank you for taking the time to do this.

Now I just need to take the next 2 days off to read all the info collected here. :D

[tekknoschtev]

Originally posted by fishylad
I just got some as a gift you could say and had no idea about them or what to do with them. I found this thread and am so happy. It appears all my questions will be answered here. Thank you for taking the time to do this.

Now I just need to take the next 2 days off to read all the info collected here. :D

Trust me, after you spend the 2 days reading, you'll be more than hooked, and spend weeks reading. I only started our first saltwater tank 6.5 months ago, sort of mind boggling all of the information I've sucked up from this forum.

I'm glad people are finding it useful.

[tekknoschtev]

Seeing as I have lost abilities to edit the post (its more than 60 minutes old) and also considering this is a draft, I'm going to be adding things here for a bit until I feel we have enough covered to make a final draft - at which time, mods may delete the first draft.

Additions:

Hitch Hikers/Pests with Zoanthids:
Sundial Snails - Tiny Predators (http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=623318&highlight=sundial+snail)


Ideas:

Its been discussed about having links to places that sell zoanthids, any thoughts yay or neigh to this? I'm not sure with sponsors and such if it would work, so I'm hoping a moderator will jump in, if not, moderators, expect a PM shortly :D

[whodah]

an edit is needed:

your 'Zoo dip' refers to the 'nudibranches no more' post reguarding that green wrasse.

it should point to:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=451720

i came across this today when referencing this thread to help someone else! :)

VERY handy, and ty again! :D

[Nagel]

zoo dip fixed...

tekknoschtev - when you gather enough info for a good update, let me know I will just edit it in..

[tekknoschtev]

Originally posted by Nagel
zoo dip fixed...

tekknoschtev - when you gather enough info for a good update, let me know I will just edit it in..

Ok cool. I've got a few more threds, when I get a few more than that, I'll PM you with them.

[Reef Junkie]

Great read, a lot of good info. :thumbsup:

[Mrs.kbmdale]

This is an AWESOME thread!!! :thumbsup: But what about adding or createing one for Palythoa's and ProtoPalythoa's??? I think that would also be an awesome thread/idea......

Brianna:rollface:

[Chelsey]

Very nice! :) I've checked your list several times for random things that I have questions on :)

[becon776]

awesome thread!

[whodah]

i'd like to submit under the section Zoanthid Growth Rates

the thread titled: Serious Disscussion of Zooanthids Growth
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=729863

ty! :D

[jessiesgrrl]

Woot! This was awesome, whodah!
Laurie :)

[jessiesgrrl]

Tekk- yours is a great idea too.. just so happened I was looking for Whodah's info...

Laurie :)

[whodah]

i'd like to submit this thread under:
Hitch Hikers/Pests with Zoanthids

the thread titled: Anyone heard of these eating zoas? (asterina starfish)
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=857437

i added the term "(asterina starfish)" so it is easier to identify in the list.

that thread discusses the possibilities of asterina's being predators to zoanthids and even quotes dr. ron at one point.

i'd also like to suggest changing the title for easier identification of the thread in the same category from:
New to zoanthids...they came with starfish.
to:
New to zoanthids...they came with starfish. (brittle starfish)

and lastly, same category, from:
Id
to:
Id (nudibranch)

i think it'll make referencing these threads much easier for the novice and old-timers alike! :D

ty!

[whodah]

i'd like to suggest another submission under the category:
Zoanthid Growth Rates:
the thread titled: Does this sound possible? (Inducing new colors and/or morphs)
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=665655

ty! :D

[Blitz99]

nice thread, it helps out

[nanocorals]

Fantastic thread. Great idea and thanks for putting in the time for everyone.

[geckotail]

nice

[MitchReef]

I am a new zoa addict, setting up a dedicated 3 gallon Pico Zoa Garden. I have 18 watts of 50/50 light on the 3 gallons and wonder if the zoas need any feeding, or are they photosynthetic? If they need feeding, what is suggested? I have cyclo-peez, live phyto, etc. Just need this guidance.

I know it might be addressed in some of those links, but I have not had time to read them all.

Thanks.

[ActinopteryGuy]

do zoos need/like to be feed, and if so what?

[Reef Junkie]

I have used many types of food, but have found that enriched brine shrimp work well. They're big enough to target feed them and soft enough for the zoas to injest them easily.

Be warned though, not all zoanthids will readily take food.

Also, if you don't target feed with a pipette and all the pumps off, you'll have problems getting them to eat.

On top of that, I have found that the easiest way to keep most of the fish off the zoas while they're trying to take the food into their mouth is to feed them at night right before you turn the light's off. If they turn off when you're done, then turn them off manually.

[MUCHO REEF]

A great source for tons of good info in this thread for all to read.

[Auntbeez]

Great idea and lots of good info... but I found several links gave me this message: "Invalid thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster"
Am I doing something wrong OR have the links been deleted?

[LJA]

Less than half of these links work.

[gallo123]

woooow great idea.

[leemik]

Yeah, the majority of the links are dead.. I think many of them moved to the archive site? This thread needs an update

--mike

[chimmike]

+1!!! Please update this thread or just delete it.

[SIR PATRICK]

Alot of these links arent working.

[whosjohnny]

Unforunately, I cannot access them either.

[camclee]

I was excited to see this thread. I have a ton of questions but none of the links are working.:confused: Please fix the links thanks

[MUCHO REEF]

FYI, the New and improved Info draft is coming soon. It will be dramatically improved and most helpful to all who use it. The launch was suppose to take place Jan 1st, but I was ill in late November thru early December. Please bare with us as great things are on the horizon for the entirely NEW zoanthid forum in 2009. Please keep in mind that this forum is nothing without the daily contributions by each of you. Stopping by to just look an critique it does very little to promote or propel this forum into what it has the potential to become in the very near future. Who's on board?


Mucho Reef

[LJA]

Can't wait for it!

[Ronyx]

any word on the update?

[M0oN]

Interested in an update as well, none of these links work.

[lbaldrey]

links dont seem to work :(

[macclellan]

Here is my futile attempt to bump a sticky'd thread so that it gets updated. :)

[dodwyer]

was interested in reading this - is it gone now??

New to Zoanthids... They Came with Starfish

[Shadowramy]

I have been working on a zoanthid id section for my site but it is a huge task here is what I have so far

http://www.shadowramysreef.com/index.php?option=com_alphacontent&view=alphacontent&Itemid=54

[rick8335]

wow super helpfull, thanks

[lbaldrey]

Ive found a temporary way to fix the broken links issue...

Click on whichever link and wait till it gives you the error...

then add archive. after the http://

see eg below...

Not working...
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=622814

works...
http://archive.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=622814

[Auntbeez]

Good catch... thanks for the hint.

[jefferino]

Thanks for the links, what a wealth of information!