Rare and expensive fish--Post em

[eljefe3]

What are the very rare and expensive fish that people have seen. I know the dragon eels are in this category, what else? How rare are these other rare fish? What's the most expensive fish you've seen in a tank or in your LFS?

[Sora]

Dragon eels arent really all that rare i have seen a few on here. Its just a matter of paying all that money for them.

[osufarker]

My favorite "rare" fish would have to be a conspiculatus angel. They run $1000+ here in the US. Maybe one day i'll have one, but I might have a stroke if a fish that pricey died in QT.

Don't think they are the hardiest thing either.

Would also like to have a gem tang. Another pricey fish.

[JDM130]

I have all common fish. This Regal isnt "rare" but it is not to common to have one in captivity for over a year that eats and is thriving, especially in a somewhat aggressive tank with other large angels. I have been searching for a black sailfin tang but they carry a pretty heavy price as well and am not sure if its worth attempting with my 2 yellows.
Jeff

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/10520skimmers_978.jpg

[capt. insano]

peppermint angels go for abou $4k

http://www.riff-aquazoo.de/Seewasseraqaristik/Fisch2.gif

and there is a West African trigger that looks like a cross between a Queen and a Clown.....I just can't find the pic right now.....

You can't even get those!

[Clown926]

nice fish guys.

[Clown926]

nice fish guys.

[capt. insano]

hotumatua angel $1300

http://www.themarinecenter.com/hotumatua2.jpg

Orange Rhinopias Aphanes $1k-$2k

http://www.stephenwong.com/divetoto/albums/album06/Rhinopias_aphanes_02_Lacy_Scorpionfish.jpg

Clarion Angels - c. $1500

http://www.themarinecenter.com/angelMCHclarionensis.jpg

[Clown926]

the clarion angel is amazing.

[capt. insano]

and they are not even that rare!! They inhabit the areas around Baja California, where passer angels come from. The Mexican gov't has placed collection and export regulations on these fish.....basically making it illegal to collect, possess, and/or sell

Thats when you see a rash of them @ online wholesalers, someone down in Mexico is running from La policia!!

[Clown926]

lol. i want one. La polica, thats hilarious.

[rwhhunt]

that Orange Rhinopias Aphanes is incredible!!!

[beakfreak]

my golden guineafowl puffer http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/99536puffer_016.jpg

[critter keeper5]

the leafy sea dragon has to be way up there in rarity.

[critter keeper5]

heres a link to an article tat states only three aquariums in the world have been able to legalll and succesfully keep them. http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/pub/fishcards/seadragon.php?0101

[Hockeyben51]

The Virginia Living Mususem(sp?) in my area keeps one.

[Clown926]

buy one of these fish and it dies in quarintine:eek2: :eek1: :eek2: :eek1: :eek2: :eek1: .

[sunfishh]

Nice work with the Regal Jeff :)

[capt. insano]

alright, I found a pic of a juvenile of the west african trigger I was talking about. Anybody have any clue about the scientific name?

http://members.cox.net/dave.schroeder/Bapun_u1.jpg

[rwhhunt]

That is the most gorgeous Trigger I have ever seen!!

[isseym328]

Australian white barred boxfish. The big guy in my avatar. :D

[PoukieBear]

wow, those are some mighty nice fish! lets see some more pics!

[osufarker]

Originally posted by capt. insano
alright, I found a pic of a juvenile of the west african trigger I was talking about. Anybody have any clue about the scientific name?


Found the info for you
http://fishbase.org/Summary/speciesSummary.php?ID=4931&genusname=Balistes&speciesname=punctatus
Balistes punctatus
bluespotted triggerfish

edit:
here is a huge picture i found of an adult someone caught while fishing.
http://www.gulliblestravels.co.uk/images/Gambian%20Trigger.jpg

[SSFiero]

I have a yellow tang. Does that count?

(actually, I dont have one) :rollface:

The clarion is one of my favorite angels. I just can't justify paying more than $100 for any fish. Maybe $150. You should see the looks on my friends face when I told them I paid $80 for an eel.

[zemuron114]

dragon morays are rare. Hawaii limits the collection and exportation of them making them rare. hence the price tag. But my far one of the most beautiful eels/fish in the hobby!

PS: I want that rhino!!! :)

[capt. insano]

osufarker, thats it!! Thanks! Blue-spot or Gambian trigger......I need one!! I had asked the Marinecenter.com about getting one, and they said it had been at least 5 years since they had one, and it sold for like $2k!

http://fishbase.org/images/species/Bapun_u0.jpg



http://www.gulliblestravels.co.uk/images/Gambian%20Trigger.jpg

[leaffish75]

cockatoo wasp... i know they arent truely rare but you hardly ever see them in a store. Actually i have only seen one and i bought it. No one has been able to get one locally for over a year. Ill find my pics of Gizmo.

[Clown926]

nice trigger.

[LukFox]

That trigger is awesome!!


Not a rare fish in the wild, but hard enough to get, imo! Dwarf golden moray eel.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/lukfox/IMG_7977_edited.jpg

No idea how rare this one is. But I've only seen them twice at my LFS (including the one pictured) and the RC search doesnt bring up a whole lot, and thank goodness they're actually pretty cheap! Black hat slender wrasse.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/lukfox/pencilwrasse_edited.jpg

[VolitanLioness]

:love2: OMG That trigger is SWEET!!!!


Kaye

[capt. insano]

Lukfox,

The is a pencil wrasse. How long have you had yours? Is it eating? The reason I ask is that they have a dismal record in the aquarium....FWIW

[LukFox]

Originally posted by capt. insano
Lukfox,

The is a pencil wrasse. How long have you had yours? Is it eating? The reason I ask is that they have a dismal record in the aquarium....FWIW


I know, a Pseudojuloides severnsi :). I've only had him for 2 weeks, but he was eating the first day. I've already got him eating out of my hand :D . From what there is on RC about them, it seems people are doing pretty well with this pencil. One member said he had his for over 2 years before it jumped (there were only about 3 members that gave info about theirs, so that's the example I'm using, lol), so I took the risk. He's been doing great so far : ).

[Hockeyben51]

You want see a large trigger look at what they call a gray trigger.

[capt. insano]

Large Trigger = Titan Trigger

http://walkabout2.dk/SharmElSheik/images/TriggerFishx.JPG


Up to 3 ft!!!!!

[juice me man]

Titan trigger as badass

[jcgreen7]

How about a barracuda?
They are not expensive but I have only seen one in my lfs and have not really seen or heard of any here on reef central. I now own the one that I saw at my lfs, he was only $50, but a cool fifty dollars.

[AW2EOD]

Originally posted by jcgreen7
How about a barracuda?
They are not expensive but I have only seen one in my lfs and have not really seen or heard of any here on reef central. I now own the one that I saw at my lfs, he was only $50, but a cool fifty dollars.

The reason you very rarely see them in your LFS is because most of them will reach 7' in length...and, they grow very quickly.

[DrChristianTroy]

What about harlequin tuskfish,it is quite rare ,moderately expensive, beautiful and deadly...

[capt. insano]

Harlequins are pretty standard state-side and really aren't that expensive......

I guess different fish command different prices worldwide. I saw that people in Asia and Australia pay a pretty penny for French angels (several hundred dollars), while they are relatively cheap here in the U.S.

[DrChristianTroy]

In my country we had to pay at least 120 dollars for a flame angel fish but onthe other had we can add a Redsea semilarvatus of M size only for 40 dollars or a friedmani(XL) for only for 28 dollars.

[sschafer]

That must be an old article as I have seen them at a few public aquariums in the US. The AZA does not mess around with smuggling.

-Steve

Originally posted by critter keeper5
heres a link to an article tat states only three aquariums in the world have been able to legalll and succesfully keep them. http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/pub/fishcards/seadragon.php?0101

[rwhhunt]

That Gambian Trigger is the best looking trigger I have ever seen!!!

[DrChristianTroy]

Pollenei Grouper
As beautiful as a gem
As agressive as pitbull
Highest price receiving grouper

[crunk]

how much do dwarf golden morays go for? i read they can be kept in relatively small tanks.

[LukFox]

Got the gold dwarf for $150, plus shipping, but the brilliant gold ones can be as much as $500+ ! ! They get to about 10" on average, so I'd say a tank as small as 40 gallons or so would house one just fine.

[Trigger 2]

it is a nice moray.

[Sicklid]

Pollenei Grouper

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/10512IM003075.jpg

[Trigger 2]

nice grouper.

[kenny77]

IM gonna find out what is the name of the fish a saw at a LFS here. I know it is a parrot fish but it is bioggest and it has the meanest face

[Trigger 2]

yah leats see some more pics!

[DrChristianTroy]

Best grouper of ever as i have said!!!

[Trigger 2]

nah, the panther is cooler.:D

[DrChristianTroy]

The photo belongs to juvenile coloration,Adult has a much more striking color contrast between purple bars and green-yellow body base color.

[Trigger 2]

cool, can i see a pic of an adult?

[criccio]

Originally posted by isseym328
Australian white barred boxfish. The big guy in my avatar. :D

More pics please.:D



Originally posted by LukFox

Not a rare fish in the wild, but hard enough to get, imo! Dwarf golden moray eel.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/lukfox/IMG_7977_edited.jpg



GDM's are real popular out here right now with about six available between a few LFS.

[LukFox]

Wow Criccio, that common?! I went to several LFS, and not so LFS and none had them ever... one said they did but I was let down to see it was a G. miliaris (though still a beautiful eel, it would possibly endanger my other fish). I've been trying to order one from my favorite LFS for a little under a year now and one never came in... I wish I lived where you do, lol!

[Absint Reefer]

Not sure how rare these guys are but you don't see them that often.


http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/66987new_grouper_1.JPG
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/66987walking_batfish.JPG
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/66987Picturevasy_1556-p.JPG

[criccio]

Yeah Lukfox, there's two stores out her that get quite a few in every summer. Here's one...http://oldtownaquarium.com/ I guess they have pairs in now. Maybe they'll ship.

My miliaris (check out my gallery) never harmed my other fish, it was a model citizen, and very social. I just lost it after having it for over three years, I'm still completely baffled as to how it died???

[Trigger 2]

is that a scorpian carson?

[criccio]

It's a leaf fish.

[Trigger 2]

oh yah.

[Absint Reefer]

Yes it is a leaf fish

[steveweast]

isseym328....how's your white bar doing ? These fish come from the temperate waters of SW Austraila. They are actually quite rare for the US...only a few make it to the US each year....maybe four or five. Most are destined for the Asian markets. I currently have two of them in 60 F water.....they will not do well long term (months) at normal reef temps. They're a great fish. Here's a pic that a guest at my house took yesterday.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/steveweast/whitebar.jpg

[espo72]

This isn't as rare as a Polleni, but I think it's even nicer:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/espo72/DSC01480.jpg
The Starry Grouper

or

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/espo72/DSC01564.jpg
Saddle Grouper

or

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/espo72/DSC01561.jpg
Lanceolatus Grouper

Can you tell I like groupers?
:D

[isseym328]

How's it going Steve. I had a feeling you were going to post here. =)

I'm glad your boxfishes are doing well. Can't say that about mine. =T The ich kept on coming back for some reason, especially after I raised the salinity level back to normal after hypo. The temperature I kept at around 65 and I believe that is probably not cold enough for the boxfishes. I will have to get a chiller if I want to keep these boxfishes healthy. That is an amazing pic of your fish. Did you ever find a source for the females? I would still love to pair them up if possible....and hopefully get them for alot cheaper. How much do they run in Asia? I actually have a cousin going back there soon maybe he can bring me back another one. :D

Did you ever obtain the other rare boxfish that you sent me a pic of?

James

[isseym328]

Oh yeah I'll post some pics later tonight.

[steveweast]

Yes...I have a source directly from Tasmania lined up. They are going to return to collecting after their winter break here shortly....unfortunately, I will be going on vacation here shortly too....but, they are going to hold my stuff for a few weeks until I return. Good luck with the ich.....hypo alone won't do it....the ich will still be in the tank. Remember, I talked to the sole collector of white bars....and they are found in 60 F water..... although 65 F should be OK.

[criccio]

Just awesome Steve. I see themarinecenter has had one for quite awhile, it's so tempting but it's hard enough keeping my tank at 74 for my latezonatus. Maybe one day when I can dedicate a tank with a chiller. Btw, how big is that guy?

Can't wait to see your pics James.

Also, for both of you guys, what else do you keep in with them at those low temps?

[LukFox]

Criccio,

Wow, that place sounds awesome. I take it that's where you got all those incredibly awesome fish in your gallery :eek1: ? Beautiful miliaris, and I'm SO sad you lost him :( .

[isseym328]

Here you go Chris...

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/12258boxfish.JPG


btw you still have the Leuks and Latz from your gallery? I'm interested in purchasing the Latz but can never find them. I have one white cap right now and two onyx. Want to sell your cap? :D

[isseym328]

I've got nothing else in the tank. I was going to buy some catalina gobies but decided i should get a chiller before putting anything else in there. It's hard enough to keep boxfishes.

[kenny77]

Barred Filefish
http://www.coralreefnetwork.com/stender/fishes/filefishes/dumerili.jpg

FIVESTRIPE WRASSE
http://www.coralreefnetwork.com/stender/fishes/wrasses/thal-quin_small.jpg

SIXBAR WRASSE
http://www.coralreefnetwork.com/stender/fishes/wrasses/hardwickei-m.jpg

Marginalis (not that rare but defenetly beautiful)
http://photos.fishindex.com/che/chelmon_marginalis29375.jpg

[Trigger 2]

thats white bar is cool.

[jetta]

Originally posted by critter keeper5
heres a link to an article tat states only three aquariums in the world have been able to legalll and succesfully keep them. http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/pub/fishcards/seadragon.php?0101

I saw one for the first time at the aquarium outside of waiki in hawaii

[zemuron114]

The sea dragon exhibit at the waikiki aquairum is amazing. They did an incredible job with it and the sea dragons look very very healthy. They are such fascinating animals.

[criccio]

Originally posted by isseym328

btw you still have the Leuks and Latz from your gallery? I'm interested in purchasing the Latz but can never find them. I have one white cap right now and two onyx. Want to sell your cap? :D

James,

I don't have the Luec anymore. In fact, I had to pretty much clean house, so all I have left are the latz. Like you though, I would love to find more of them.

Your white bar is awesome, I hope it does well for you.

Chris

[isseym328]

Where did you get the Latz? I'd like a pair of them myself. If you get the chance let me know. I'm looking for another cap too if you ever see any around. ;)

[cpenner]

Here is a great site with endangered fish from around the world (with videos)

http://www.arkive.org/species/GES/fish/

[Trigger 2]

how much did you get the white bar for? how big do they get?

[isseym328]

The prices were hefty on the white bars since they are so uncommon in the US. I purchased one(4 inches) from marinecenter for an insane price but later found a smaller one(2 inches) at the lfs for less than half of what marinecenter was charging me. I was very lucky to find one at the lfs. They usually never make it there mostly because of their rarity and also because of their temperate water requirement. After I told the owner they need to be kept in a tank under 65 degress of water they sold it to me for even cheaper. :D

[Trigger 2]

sweet! how much are they usually?

[Trigger 2]

how big do they get when they are adults? they are so cool.:cool: .

[steveweast]

THe collectors generally get $150 per fish....the wholesaler gets around $350 per fish and the retailer generally gets $500 or more per fish. Your price depends from which one of these guys you get it from.

[isseym328]

Unsure on how large these boxfishes get. Maybe Steve can chime in on this one.

I believe the wholesalers in LA get them for cheaper because I got my second one for less than $350 from a lfs. However the first one I bought costed me an arm and a leg. Steve when you get back from vacation let me know I would like to attain more specimens from you. :D

[Trigger 2]

they are nice fish. i dont know if would be able to get one, and they are alot of money.

[isseym328]

If you guys want to see a closeup of a white barred boxfish check out Steve's website. He has the pic on the intro page. Just click on his little red house....

[Trigger 2]

kk. kool.

[steveweast]

In the wild....these guys are supposed to grow to about 12".....but, in captivity, I would imagine about 8 inches would be max.

[Trigger 2]

thanks. steve what fish do you have in that massive reef of yours?

[steveweast]

Issey....the prices will vary depending upon what margin the individual wants to make. It all starts with the collector, who, per my conservations with him, gets about $150 per fish.....so, if the wholesaler wants to get rid of it for a smaller margin, then those savings will work their way through the chain.

[steveweast]

trigger....there's a rather long specimen list page on my site.

[Trigger 2]

oh, didnt see it, ill look for it again.

[steveweast]

http://www.oregonreef.com/sub_faq.htm

look at #21

[Trigger 2]

found it, thats a nice tank you got there.:D

[isseym328]

I agree Steve. I think sometimes it's difficult to sell these fishes locally since they are so expensive and require special treatment. It's possible the one I bought from the LFS was one of the last boxfishes at the wholesaler and since it was also small and it needs to be in a spcialized tank it might've sold for cheaper. The lfs was actually asking for $400 I believe but I talked it down to $325.

Having said that have you notcied the marine center does not tell their customers that this fish needs to be in temperate waters? I was pretty upset when I found out through you that they need to be in cooler waters. I feel if you're buying such an expensive fish the store should tell you how to take care of it properly.

[steveweast]

It may not be their fault......here's how is goes....

Fish collected from off the SW Australian coast in temperate waters.

Fish sent to the main distribution center in Cairns, Australia which is located 3000 miles away in NW Australia....right off the GBR.

Fish sent to Asia, US, etc..... and billed as coming from Cairns !!! Thus, the wholesalers think that it's warm water.... and the misinformation gets passed down the line.... unless a knowlegdable wholesaler corrects the mistake. That's why you sometimes see these fish being billed as coming from Cairns or sometimes from the Coral Sea which Cairns abuts.

[isseym328]

Hmm maybe I should email them and tell them to add more info onto their pages. But I wonder if they will do so since adding that extra info would probably make it harder for them to sell the boxfish..or any fish that's accustomed to cooler waters.

[steveweast]

It's the same story for the Shaw's Boxfish or the Ornate Boxfish that come from the temperate waters of SE Australia near Tasmania.....I've seen those fish at marine center from time to time too.

[Trigger 2]

steve do you keep you boxfish in your reef? dont they need cooler temps?

[steveweast]

mine are in there own cold water reef.....not my main tank....water temp @ 60 F

[Trigger 2]

yes thats what i thought.:)

[TheCoralNabber]

I've seen a clarion angle in a LFS, they wanted 1500 for him. He was gorgeous! What a fish.

[ShellBell]

Originally posted by steveweast
isseym328....how's your white bar doing ? These fish come from the temperate waters of SW Austraila. They are actually quite rare for the US...only a few make it to the US each year....maybe four or five. Most are destined for the Asian markets. I currently have two of them in 60 F water.....they will not do well long term (months) at normal reef temps. They're a great fish. Here's a pic that a guest at my house took yesterday.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/steveweast/whitebar.jpg

That fish is truly amazing!!!:eek1:

[gman592003]

Here are a couple of mine that are more on the rare side.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/524/101078blueline_part_3.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/545/101078Golden_Puffer_Deux.JPG
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/527/101078lunnada.JPG
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/524/101078goldflake_1.JPG

[gman592003]

Sorry two more

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/524/101078earspot_1.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/523/101078dessumieri.JPG

[I like Triggers]

Originally posted by gman592003
Here are a couple of mine that are more on the rare side.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/524/101078blueline_part_3.JPG

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/545/101078Golden_Puffer_Deux.JPG
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/527/101078lunnada.JPG
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/524/101078goldflake_1.JPG

rhinecanthus assasi?

[gman592003]

Actually he is a Rhinecanthus Lunula.

[I like Triggers]

cool i havnt seen that one before!

[gman592003]

He is the best trigger I have owned. A ton of personality and he holds his owm with his tankmates without creating havok. I should have a better photo up in a day or so.

[zemuron114]

My dwarfs!! :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/dlinehan/eels/IMG_2186.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/dlinehan/eels/IMG_2160.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/dlinehan/eels/IMG_2136.jpg

[asnatlas]

Anyone else ??

[TheAntiEggroll]

Great thread guys.

[raw88gt]

Here is my Kidako and snowflake, ive heard the kidako are quite expensive and very rare
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/reeftank27/Picture261.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/reeftank27/Picture264.jpg

[espo72]

here's a few more...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/espo72/DSC01860.jpg
Nassau Grouper
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/espo72/DSC01859.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/espo72/DSC01836.jpg
Blue and Yellow Grouper

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/espo72/DSC01848.jpg
Kidako Moray Eel

[jmicky41]

Kidako are very expensive indeed, $500-1000. However, there are many morays that look pretty similar though.

[capt. insano]

espo...

love your fish! Shared your personal site with all of the guys and gals over at grimreefers.com and they loved your collection

[espo72]

thanks,

Either I hear from people that they like my fish, especially the folks on the FO boards.
Or, I get alot of heat, mainly from the hardcore reefers, that I am insane about the type of fish I keep... that I am cruel to them. I know I'm not perfect, but I do try to give my fish the best home I can provide. I don't enjoy watching one fish eat another, but it happens (in my tank, in a LFS, and in nature!) They say I am part of the cause of LFSs selling unsuitable aquarium fish. You know what...if I don't buy it, I'm sure someone else always will!

Anyway, sorry for the rant. Thanks for the kind words. Glad to see there are other nuts out there like me. :hmm4: And, I'll have to check out that site you mentioned, sounds very interesting! :smokin:

[marrone]

Here is a picture of my Napoleon Wrasse, Cheilinus undulatus

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/21828mini-Nap_Wrasse_1.JPG

About 1' right now. Very slow growing.

[ManEatingGuppy]

cool, were did u get the napoleon wrasse? how much did it cost? whats it eating?

[ManEatingGuppy]

espo, do u know the scientific name for the blue and yellow grouper? cant seem to find it on the net.
sorry but i dont have any rare or unsual fish but u guys have some cool fish though, i wish i had enough space for some of them.

[marrone]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6654470#post6654470 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ManEatingGuppy
cool, were did u get the napoleon wrasse? how much did it cost? whats it eating?

I got it at my LFS. It usually comes in small and is mislabeled as a digrammus, which is from the same area. They had it for quite some time and I got it for $75, which was reduced from $125. It was completely wasted out in color and looked nothing like the fish in the picture, that why they couldn't sell it. It eats just about everything as it has a pretty good size mouth.

[espo72]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6654473#post6654473 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ManEatingGuppy
espo, do u know the scientific name for the blue and yellow grouper? cant seem to find it on the net.


Epinephelus flavocaeruleus...gets to be about 3 feet long in the wild. Pretty rare fish from what I've read. Comes mainly from East Africa to Thailand and the Persian Gulf.

[ManEatingGuppy]

thats pretty cool, is it the same species that gets really big?

thnx for the grouper name also, my lfs has one in stcok right now.

[BTTRFLYGRL]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6654009#post6654009 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by marrone
Here is a picture of my Napoleon Wrasse, Cheilinus undulatus

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/21828mini-Nap_Wrasse_1.JPG

About 1' right now. Very slow growing.




:eek: I can't believe this was even offered!! Do you know this fish can get 7'.....seven feet!! Your 260 is big, but sorry to say can not house this monster. Do you have any future plans for this fish?

[marrone]

It's a very slow grower, it's been in my tank for 3-4 years and hasn't grow that much, and this is with it being feed everyday and large meals 2 or 3 times weekly. When I got it I thought it would have over grow my tank by now but it hasn't and still has plenty of room.

The LFS didn't know what it was as a lot of these wrasse look similar when they're small and they usually come in mislabled.

Once it gets to big I plan on donating to the NY Aquarium.

[BTTRFLYGRL]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6656755#post6656755 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by marrone
It's a very slow grower, it's been in my tank for 3-4 years and hasn't grow that much, and this is with it being feed everyday and large meals 2 or 3 times weekly. When I got it I thought it would have over grow my tank by now but it hasn't and still has plenty of room.

The LFS didn't know what it was as a lot of these wrasse look similar when they're small and they usually come in mislabled.

Once it gets to big I plan on donating to the NY Aquarium.





Good to hear...Its really a good thing you came across this fish...it could have ended up with a newbie in a 29 gallon :eek:
Good luck to you!

[steveweast]

here are a few unusual....but, not necessarily rare fish...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/steveweast/gruntsculpin.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/steveweast/shawsbox.jpg

[VolitanLioness]

What is that fish in the 1st picture (steveweast post)? I like it very nice!!!!!

Kaye

[marrone]

steveweast is that a Grunt Sculpin? I don't think I've seen one before in some one tank, where did you get it from?.

I also thought that they where deep water fish, 400-600 feet, and usually hang out on the bottom.

[steveweast]

Yes...it is a grunt sculpin....very good. They are somewhat common here in Puget Sound at depths from 40 -100 ft. He's in my cold reef...water temp 58 F.

[oxx155]

Hey Steve!
You said "here in Puget Sound", did you move or are you still in portland?

[ReefGeekster]

Cool Fish Steve! :thumbsup:

[steveweast]

Well....considering Puget Sound is a 2 hr drive from Portland....I consider it local. I'm still in Portland.

[NorthFace]

There's a whole tank, at Shedd Aquarium in Chicago, dedicated to Grunt Sculpin...they're all over the place, in this tank.

One of the coolest fish I've ever seen!

[LauraCline]

what's the 2nd one steveweast? He's really neat too!

[NorthFace]

Steve...what size tank and what kind of chiller are you running on the tank that houses the Grunt Sculpin?

[raw88gt]

thats one cool fish, i have never seen one before.. they have to live in cold water?

[Absint Reefer]

Full tank shot please!

[steveweast]

I have two cold water tanks....one with about 100 gals of water..... and a smaller one with about 40 gals of water.... both are tied together with a common sump. I use a 1/2 hp PCI chiller to easily maintain 58 F. I keep the grunt in the smaller tank....which I plan to add cold seahorses to next month with some native sea grasses....along with some more grunts if I can catch some more.

The second pic is a Shaw's boxfish from the temperate waters off southern Austraila.

[rwhhunt]

the shaw's boxfish looks a helluva lot like a baby blue line trigger!

[natedogg]

marinecenter has lots of rare fish. check it out.

[yoDavid]

Once it gets to big I plan on donating to the NY Aquarium.

will they Ny aquarium take him?

[marrone]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6685870#post6685870 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by yoDavid
Once it gets to big I plan on donating to the NY Aquarium.

will they Ny aquarium take him?

They have stop taking fish but some thing like this I would think that they would want as it's not the common shark or eel that most people are trying to pawn off on them. If not them then the Aquarium down in NJ would most likely take him.

[theidea9000]

I am not sure are these guys rare.

[myerst2]

Hey all. I was going to post these pics but I love rare fish about as much as anyone. Most fish are from Japanese blogs. I won't post names but if you want to know the name of some of the fish let me know. Thanks, Tim
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/AuroraAnthias-thumb.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/Clarionjuv.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/Picture10.png
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/Picture15.png
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/14154fish2.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/ballinae1.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/32382xanthic_regal.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/emp_chrys_hybrid.jpg

[myerst2]

Some more!!!!!!
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/image059.jpg

Can you tell I love angels!!!!!!!!!

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/76163Interruptus01.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/orennjiruriyakko-m.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/konnsupikurarionn041204.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/img_0118_000-1.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/hotumatu041026_001.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/dsc_0107_002.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/dsc_0009_002.jpg

[myerst2]

One last page and I will stop. Just love these fish!!!!!!!

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/anthias-015_107.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/pnon-065_693.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/img_3184_966.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/NR0006220AF.jpghttp://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/tn_image001_jpg.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/IMG_5930_R-thumb.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/Candy_Bass_1.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/NR0038656AF.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/myerst22/NR0032798AF.jpg

[saltwater creep]

the first pic is a fowleri tang and the second is a xanthic yellow tang http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/sean_mohsen/fowleri.jpg http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/sean_mohsen/yellowtang1.jpg http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/sean_mohsen/yellowtang4.jpg

[bluedevils32701]

a lfs in tampa has a clarion angel for 3600. they had two come in and one is in the freezer :(

[saltwater creep]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/sean_mohsen/africanusangel.jpg http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/sean_mohsen/monroviatang1.jpg not as rare as some others but still some of my favorite fish that i own

[fishnerd]

are those from exotic aquarium?


Bryan

[DamnPepShrimp]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13464993#post13464993 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by saltwater creep
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/sean_mohsen/africanusangel.jpg http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/sean_mohsen/monroviatang1.jpg not as rare as some others but still some of my favorite fish that i own

What are those two? Especially the top one, looks like an angel of some sort. Gorgeous fish, thanks for sharing.

[LisaD]

love the sculpins - I've seen them at the Shedd. if I ever have a coldwater tank, it will be to keep this species.

[bluedevils32701]

the top one is an africanus angelfish :)

[hansnfrans]

My favorite fish that really only is a $35 fish, but absolutely no one can find one for me :( :(

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m65/hansnfrans/Stonefishverrucosa.jpg

[DamnPepShrimp]

Could find much on the Holocanthus africanus angelfish. Where can you get them, they seem to be in the $300 range? How aggressive, hardy, size etc?

[fishnerd]

The africanus showed up in our LFS at the beginning of the year they were $400 range. I also saw them online about that time, hardy fish but opposite of a swan they are drab when older. The juvies are vibrant blue the pic is of a intermediate stage between adult hood and juvie.

Bryan

[isseym328]

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/12258thielleicloseup.jpg

A. Thiellei

I only know two other people that has this fish in the states. Since this is a hybrid clown it is not on the list of wholesalers and imo only comes in by accident...meaning with a bunch of other common clownfishes. Awsome fish....if you have one let me know i'd like to pair mine up. :D

[myerst2]

Yes you can get your hands on an africanus quite easily. The juvinilea re stuning and then they get drab, huge, and quite agressive. Tim

[reeferaddiction]

my naso brevirostris
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd212/reeferaddiction/spike1.jpg

[fishnerd]

issey

I had a thellei years ago and it came in a leukocranos shipment they are by accident but if you order more "white bonnet" clowns it increases your chances immensely. I have been out of the biz a while but thats how I got mine.

Bryan

[Absint Reefer]

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/66987stonefish_1.JPG
gotta love the stonefish their cheap but I'v only ever seen one and I was sure to snag em

[reeferaddiction]

dalmatian puffer don vito
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd212/reeferaddiction/vito.jpg

[bluedevils32701]

africanus angelfish are nearly impossible to find. they come from west africa which is seldom collected and sent to the states. it seems as if you see these fish in the trade every 3-5 years or so. i luckily picked mine up from a local wholesaler but it was the only africanus that survived the transport. 15 were shipped and 14 were DOA. This was because of a airline delay :( wholesaler told me they would never order from the west african collector again

[Lazylivin1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=5567657#post5567657 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by isseym328
Here you go Chris...

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/12258boxfish.JPG


btw you still have the Leuks and Latz from your gallery? I'm interested in purchasing the Latz but can never find them. I have one white cap right now and two onyx. Want to sell your cap? :D

These need cold water..... 66 Degrees F. They cost like 2k-3k.

[e55MD]

There is one of those for sale on Diver's Den for $499.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?c=2733+3&ddid=48509

[Grouperhead]

That stonefish is sweet. Dalmation puffer is nice too.

[1ucky]

Love the Dalmation puffer!

[coolwaves]

Wow, today I spent the most I have ever spent on a fish (garibaldi damsel), though I have bought hundreds and sold tens of thousands of fish in my lifetime-- and it was a mere 127 bucks, but I almost had a mental breakdown when it arrived because the supplier shipped it with a heat pack and it very nearly died from temperature shock during the acclimation (temperate species). There were several points where I actually thought it was dead before it started to come around, then it was eating 4 hours later. Gotta love damsels.
Maybe this species is not among the rarest or most expensive, but its getting closer to it every year with increasing harvest restrictions. Hopefully it will live its full 25-year lifespan, because it'll be that long before I'll be able to spend that much on a fish again...

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/505/198044garibaldi.jpg

[isseym328]

Man I sure miss my white barred boxfish. That guy had quite the character. I actually bought another one right after it. A baby one at two inches. quite cute. Both died from ich. It was pretty hard to control the ich in 65-70 degree waters. Btw back then those boxfishes were sold at 700 on marinecenter. the small two incher I bought for 300. They are not too expensive at the wholesalers...I'd say around 150-200.

Noone around here purchses caps on a normal basis. Bryan if you ever see one please let me know. Where's elk grove btw? Did you by chance live in southern cali for a while?

[fishnerd]

had family there in socal and spent many summers, Elk Grove is the subs of sacramento....i will keep you posted as I am in the market for some leuks and thellei's

Bryan

[JazzZero]

This is a old thread but one of the most interesting and this talks about rare angelfish and as you go further there will be hybrid angelfishes.




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