HotHotHot's 220 Tank Log

[HotHotHot]

Hi All,

I'm starting this thread to chronicle the progress of my new 220 gal semi-custom tank.

Here is the equipment list so far:

Lee-Mar flat-polished, euro braced, dual overflow 220 gal glass tank (Due in about 3 weeks)
6 holes drilled for a closed loop

30" oak stand and 12" canopy (Due in about 3 weeks)

OceansMotions 4-way (No ship date yet)

Sequence 1000 Series 3200 return pump (Due 11/14)

Sequence ReefFlow Dart closed loop pump (Due 11/14)

PanWorld 150PS skimmer pump (Due 11/14)

Barr Aquatic SK1220 Beckett skimmer (Due soon)

Barr Aquatic CR1200 calcium reactor (Currently in use)

Lighting - TBD
I'll take suggestions on this. I'm looking at DE HQI systems 13-14K bulbs.


More will follow along with pics as things progress.


Ed :rollface:

[HotHotHot]

Hi again.

Some minor changes and some observations.

I'm only having 5 holes drilled for the closed loop. One 2" drain, and 4 1.5" returns.

The canopy will be 16" instead of 12" so I can raise and lower the lights.

The pumps arrived on time, and the OM 4-way arrived today.

The OM 4-way is beautifully made. Excellent fit and finish, and the company was a pleasure to work with. :cool:

The Sequence 1000 is HUGE. I can only imagine how big their larger pumps are. I'm hoping this doesn't cramp me for space under the stand. I'm going to have to size the sump appropriately.

The Dart and Pan-World are about the size I expected and also look very well made. I know some of the early Darts had the clear-blue volute which were prone to cracking. The new black PVC volute looks very sturdy.

I also can't believe how much the plumbing parts are going to cost. :eek2: It's just plastic guys! :rolleyes:

I'll start posting pics once the tank and stand arrive. The projected date is the 1st week in December.

Ed :rollface:

[My Evil Z]

Hey that looks like its going to be a real nice setup:D
Excellent choice on the Barr Aquatics he really builds good equipment!
and man how the money flows,Ill keep checking in.

____________

Dave

[HotHotHot]

Originally posted by My Evil Z
Hey that looks like its going to be a real nice setup:D
Excellent choice on the Barr Aquatics he really builds good equipment!
and man how the money flows,Ill keep checking in.


Thanks "Z." I gotta ask, 350, 240, what? I've got an '04 Max.

I agree about Brent's equipment. Sounds like he's taken on an apprentice, so things should start ramping up, reducing lead times.

I forgot to mention that I ordered an Aquatronica controller, which may arrive this week from Aquarium Obsessed. Definitely by next week.

I also just received my lighting. I decided on 2 Reef Optix III Plus pendants, 250 watt 14K Phoenix bulbs, and a Blue Wave VII ballast. I test fired them and all was well. A nice pleasing blue. They should look great. Thanks ReefGeek.com.

I should also be receiving my Savko order soon.

I'm still shopping for a sump. I really like Melev's 80 gal model. I'll have to wait and see if that size will fit, or if I'll need to scale it down a little.

I will say that all of the vendors I've chosen have been great to work with. Thanks MarineDepot, CustomAquatic, BarrAquatic, ReefGeek, OceansMotions, and AquariumObsessed. Quite the Canadian contingent Eh!

Ed :rollface:

[camarojweed]

Is the Sequence 1000 on the same floor as the tank? I had a dart as my return pump and a 1000 for me closed loop, the flow was so high from the 1000 that I had to trade it back in for another dart...my tank is a 240...sounds like a great project...I love my OM 4 way too...and my tank is from Aquarium Obsessed...good luck and keep us posted...you can checlk out my set up as i am working on it by clicking to my website...

jason

[HotHotHot]

camarojweed,

It's on the same floor. On a closed loop with zero head I could see where that would move a lot of water.

I'm looking at about 16' of head with bends and valves and a manifold. I hope this works out.

Very nice setup too. How do you like the light movers?

Ed :rollface:

[camarojweed]

Best 30 dollars i ever spent...the light rails worked out better than I had hoped...

I am glad I used true unions on the outlet of the pump, it was a quick change out...good luck and have fun...

[HotHotHot]

Quick update:

I received my Barr Aquatic SK1220 skimmer on Saturday. Brent never fails to impress.

The thing is built like a tank. Execellent fit and finish.

And yes I know ...
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/2191643056pics.gif

Ed :rollface:

[EbbTideRC]

I bought a 220g fish only setup last month, and I'm looking to convert it to a reef system. I'll be tagging along on this thread, as well as starting one of my own soon.

[HotHotHot]

Originally posted by EbbTideRC
I bought a 220g fish only setup last month, and I'm looking to convert it to a reef system. I'll be tagging along on this thread, as well as starting one of my own soon.

:cool: That's what this is all about. I've gotten invaluable information from so many members on this board. I'm hoping to start giving back.

Still waiting on my Savko order and my Aquatronica. Hopefully by the end of the week.

Ed :rollface:

[Fliger]

That sounds awesome! I saw your other question and I don't think the LeeMar will come with low iron glass unless you pay extra for it. That's pretty weak of the LFS for not being able to give you a clear answer. If its not too late I'd upgrade. Although I think LeeMar's glass isn't as green as some others, its still green. I've had a couple starphire tanks and on my website is a pic of the difference - the sides and front were starphire and the bottom is regular. HUGE difference, ya pay well into the five digits after a tank is up and running, just to color all your livestock green. ;-)

[HotHotHot]

Here are a few equipment pics,

My Barr Aquatic SK1220
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/79394IMGA0145.JPG
My Barr Aquatic CR1200
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/79394IMGA0144.JPG
This manifold will be on the return pump and will supply my Phosban reactor, Ca reactor, acclimation, 1 spare 3/4" for a future chiller if needed, and 1 spare 1/2" port.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/79394IMGA0147.JPG

I'm hoping the stand and tank arrive this week, so things should start to move along.

Ed

[HotHotHot]

OK, now we're cookin'

The tank and stand arrived in town on Wednesday. I had the stand delivered first so I could do some prep work like mounting fans and putting the electrical in.

On with the show...

Here's the Barr SK1220
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/Skimmer.jpg

Here's the Barr CR1200
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/CaReactor.jpg

Here's the manifold I'll be using for auxillary feeds
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/Manifold.jpg

[HotHotHot]

The Sequence 1000 return pump
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/Sequence1000.jpg

The Dart with OM 4-Way
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/DartOM4-Way.jpg

The Pan World 150PS skimmer pump
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/PanWorld150PS.jpg

[HotHotHot]

Stand Pics:

I'm sealing the bottom with poly varnish and will run a bead of silicone at the joints.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/StandFront.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/StandBack.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/HoodTop.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/HoodSide.jpg

[HotHotHot]

The power center for always-on items
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/PowerCenterFront.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/PowerCenterBack.jpg

I put a small flourescent light in the stand for general lighting
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/StandLight.jpg

Here's the hole cutter I used to install the fans (definitely one of my better investments)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/HoleCutter.jpg

The tank will be delivered on Monday, so more pics during the plumbing will follow.

Ed :rollface:

[HotHotHot]

Well the tank is progressing well. I'm currently waiting for a custom sump, at which point I can finish the plumbing and wet-test.

I put 1/2" of foam down since the tank is flat-bottomed.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/StandFoam.jpg

I built a return mainifold to distribute the flow.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/ReturnManifold.jpg

Here is where all of the return plumbing and closed loop are positioned.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/ReturnBulkheads.jpg

Here is how the return manifold sits on the tank.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/Manifoldinplace.jpg

Here is the ozonizer I'll be using.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/EnalyOzonizer.jpg

The tank lighting.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/TankLights.jpg

Finally, the whole enchilada.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/TankStandHood.jpg

Ed

[HotHotHot]

For reference, here are a couple of pics from my 90 Gallon.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/DSCN1150.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/DSCN1204.jpg

Ed

[Chaotic Reefer4u]

tiiiiight.

[hawaiianwargod]

Cool set up!!! Where did u get that kind of air dryer for your ozone?

[HotHotHot]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6493591#post6493591 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hawaiianwargod
Cool set up!!! Where did u get that kind of air dryer for your ozone?

It was packaged with the Enaly on e-bay. Frankly it's kind of cheesy, although it will work. I may eventually get the RedSea air drier.

ChAoTiCrEeFeR4U

Thanks. Your user name makes me crazy though :)

Ed

[Fliger]

That looks great, I gotta see it in person!

Word of advice though - you should put cheap BV's between the tank and the union on the back of your tank. If you ever want to replumb, you turn the BV's off, undo the unions. I have 4 there, 4 on the outlets of the OM (this time the union is between the tank OM and the BV), one between the OM & pump, and 2 more for the drain (same concept as above). Small investment but makes things easy if (when) you re-do it.

[HotHotHot]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6494546#post6494546 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Fliger
That looks great, I gotta see it in person!

Word of advice though - you should put cheap BV's between the tank and the union on the back of your tank. If you ever want to replumb, you turn the BV's off, undo the unions. I have 4 there, 4 on the outlets of the OM (this time the union is between the tank OM and the BV), one between the OM & pump, and 2 more for the drain (same concept as above). Small investment but makes things easy if (when) you re-do it.

Sounds good, and I wouldn't mind meeting a local "legend."

I think I follow what you are saying about the valves. I will have valves on the OM side (and the drain), but don't think I could reach valves behind the tank anyway. If I have to, I can always cap the pipes in the tank to act as a valve. I don't really plan on re-doing that part of the system. It would only come into play if I have a serious problem.

I didn't post this picture before, but here is the plan:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/ReturnPlumbing.jpg

Ed

[mike660r]

Hothothot,

I like your OM output jets design. I will have to keep that in mind for the next tank. However, you may want to rethink the overhead jet idea. I tried that same idea with just 4 - 3/4" locline nozzles hanging down and it looks horrible. If you set that up with all 10 jets hanging in the water. I think you may find it to be an uncontrollable eye sore. Thats just my opinion, so take it for what its worth.

Besides that keep the pics flowing.

Mike C

[HotHotHot]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6495693#post6495693 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mike660r
Hothothot,

I like your OM output jets design. I will have to keep that in mind for the next tank. However, you may want to rethink the overhead jet idea. I tried that same idea with just 4 - 3/4" locline nozzles hanging down and it looks horrible. If you set that up with all 10 jets hanging in the water. I think you may find it to be an uncontrollable eye sore. Thats just my opinion, so take it for what its worth.

Besides that keep the pics flowing.

Mike C

To be honest, I don't even like the look of loc-line! :rolleye1: but I really had no other adjustable way to do it. They won't be visible when standing due to the overhang on the hood. When sitting, they should be unobtrusive since they'll be only an inch or two below the surface.

Besides, it took me a full day to put that manifold together and by-golly it's gonna work! :D

More pics will follow when the sump is done!

Ed

[mike660r]

Ed,

I like your perseverance to make your efforts work. I know we all have different tastes. The issue that I am sure you are going to find is that in order to make the jets an effective entity you will need pressure delivered to all the jets. In order to get them all presurized you will have to increase the return flow. The problem that will arrise after increasing the flow is that your overflows will not be able to keep up. If you force the overflows and drains to hard you get a lot of drainage noise and risk a flooded tank.

Good luck with it!

[HotHotHot]

mike660r

Thanks for the concern. I'm using a Sequence 3200 as a return so I should have enough flow. I also have 1 1/2" Dursos in each overflow and two 1 1/2" emergency drains.

Mitigating potential floods was high on my list. :)

I also forgot to post this pic of the overflows.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/Overflow.jpg

Ed

[jnarowe]

nice setup but that shot of the valves makes me dizzy!

It's interesting that you are getting good service from OceansMotions. I couldn't get them to return my emails or phone calls. In fact I have decided not to use CLs or vary my return flow at all. It will be constant through 4 - 1" return BHs and 1 - 1-1/2" overflow from the refugium. All my variable flow will come from power heads. It's too bad about them because I think they make a great product!

I really like your manifold. I have built one myself (a mock up) and got a good idea from yours: Instead f just capping the end, I will install a BV and then a cap, so that I can remove the cap and install other items without shutting down the system. THANK YOU for the great idea!!

[TheCoralReef731]

I like your setup. I have been thinking of using lockline as well. Where did you get it?

[HotHotHot]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6501290#post6501290 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
nice setup but that shot of the valves makes me dizzy!


LOL! Me too!

Re: OM, were you trying to contact them around the holidays? I had to call them to confirm the I/O sizes and reached a person immediately. And the lady was very cordial and helpful.

jnarowe

I got all the lock line from Savko.com, as well as bulkheads, most of the valves, and the spaflex. Just avoid their sch 40 unions. HD and Lowes for the rest of the fittings and straight pipe.

Ed

[jnarowe]

over the course of about 3 - 4 weeks I emailed and called a few times. Maybe 5 in all, and I never heard back. NBD, I have designed my system to work without their product. I may even use a lawn sprinkler or 2!

[HotHotHot]

jnarowe

Well I can't speak for OM customer service. That's too bad, because it would have been a good display of their product.

I just read your sig... 1000 gal reef, now there's a project I'd like to follow. And for THERAPY, I swear reefers are natural born masochists! :)

Got a thread started already?

Ed

[jnarowe]

Ed, click on the red house!:D

[HotHotHot]

Here are some updated pics with sand and live rock. Enjoy!
(Click for a larger pic)

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/th_f3378d5e.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/f3378d5e.jpg)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/th_0e62020d.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/0e62020d.jpg)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/th_c096e7a5.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/c096e7a5.jpg)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/th_7a739680.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/7a739680.jpg)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/th_556fd5e3.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/556fd5e3.jpg)

[HotHotHot]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/th_e63fc316.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/e63fc316.jpg)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/th_0a70d479.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/0a70d479.jpg)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/th_c66b0545.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/c66b0545.jpg)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/th_39a79345.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/39a79345.jpg)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/th_7f1df5d5.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/7f1df5d5.jpg)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/th_f7bf8d17.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/f7bf8d17.jpg)

Ed

[jnarowe]

nice looking rock!

[HotHotHot]

jnarowe,

Thanks, it's a mixture of 100# Marshall Is. and 100# Kaelini Tonga from Premium Aquatics. I'll be adding around 50# of Fiji from my 90 gal after I get it cleaned up.

[jnarowe]

I thought some of it looked like MI but I couldn't figure out why some didn't.

[Bebo77]

lol do you think you have enough nozzles in that tank?????.. jk nice job...

like the shapes of the liverock...

[HotHotHot]

Bebo,

No, I think there is still some space for livestock! LOL!

I've actually scaled it back to four 1/2" nozzles + the CL. I was getting too much flow and not enough velocity. It's pretty balanced now. I also got rid of the loc-line because I think it was sucking air through a few joints. I went with rigid pvc.

Ed

[HotHotHot]

Here are a few new pics...

The Barr SK1220 during rock curing (this thing is an animal!)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/DSCN1313.jpg

Some coral flourecencs with moonlight
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/DSCN1328.jpg

A cute hitchhiker (anybody know what this is?)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/DSCN1330.jpg

Another hitchhiker(this thing looks evil, anybody know what this is?)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/DSCN1334.jpg

And the money shot
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/DSCN1340.jpg

[HotHotHot]

A few more...

Right side
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/DSCN1341.jpg

Left side
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/DSCN1342.jpg

Golden headed sleeper goby
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/DSCN1349.jpg

Clown, anemone, and hammer
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/epantak/DSCN1352.jpg

[jnarowe]

pics look great. very nice aquascaping.

[Brewen]

Very awesome thanks for sharing

[Julio]

looking good!

[Zoos]

Looks Great

[alien9168]

Nice Blumbing. :)

-alien

[thrlride]

Looking great! I like your manifold and where you mounted your power center. I need two of those guys and didn't really know where to mount it. Good spot!

[jnarowe]

Take a look at Melev's ID Page (http://www.melevsreef.com/id/kritter2.html) I think that "evil looking" thing may be a problem. Better yet PM him with it and he may have an answer.

[alien9168]

Nice hammer coral as well!

[enamdjd]

Nice setup

[HotHotHot]

Thanks for the kind comments guys. Things seem to be going well. I'm having a brief outbreak of diatoms(?) on the sand after adding a cleanup crew from www.reeftopia.com but it's already on its way out.

I also added my first SPS coral which seems to be doing fine. I don't know what the species is (the store didn't have it marked), but I'll post a pic soon.

This week I'm hoping to have the 90 gallon completely torn down.

Ed

[Cutiewitbooty]

looks really nice!!! Keep up the good work!!

[bebitte70]

Looks very good. Are the tangs cohabitating (typo.) well together?

[dougie]

looks great! :thumbsup:


Cheers.

[HotHotHot]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7924037#post7924037 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bebitte70
Looks very good. Are the tangs cohabitating (typo.) well together?

Thanks! They've grown up together. I got them when they were just pups :) They weren't more than 1.5" long when I got them, now the biggest blue tang is about 8".

I've had no problems with any of the fish and I've since added a fire fish, a mandarin, and a golden headed sleeper goby. All are fat and happy.

I gotta post more pics!

Ed

[Racenrich]

Hot,
Wanted to comment on the nice setup you have...i'm a user of the OM as well and coundnt ask for a better way for flow....i have about 2500gph going thru my 120g and not a power cord in sight! :D

Great job!

Rich

[cpreefguy]

nice setup

[Chipie]

Any chance of seeing what the back of the tank looks like from the side?