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nemofish2217
01/26/2006, 12:55 PM
This is for all of you out there that have beautiful tanks which i envy. my tank is realtively new.... 2-3 months, and i see all of these beautiful tanks in which the corals have amazing color... my blue mushrooms and red and green zoanthids (the only corals i have so far in the tank) just look so so. they are growing, but their coloration tends to be more brownish... i have a refugium, excalibur skimmer, and about 45 pounds of live rock in my 47 gallon. My bioload is 5 turbo snails, about 30 nassarius(sp), and about 5 reef hermits. i also have two percs. IS THERE SOME MAGIC TRICK TO GETTING AMAZING COLORS? i should also add that i do about a 25% water change bi-weekly. i dose kents liquid calcium and buffer 3-4 times a week. I feed my fish once every other day. My lighting is a single corallife 10k 150 HQI pendant. Thanks in advance for the help.

Water param.
ph: 8.2- 8.3
Calcium: about 390 ppm
Alk: about 8.5 dkh
Nitrates: .2
nitrites: 0
Phosphate: .1
Ammonia: 0

nemofish2217
01/26/2006, 12:57 PM
water movement right now is mag 7 return(2 foot tank) with two return nozzles, and right now one SEIO 800gph powerhead. I have the SEIO pointed towards one of the returns for turbulence(sp) and then i have the other return directed behind the rocks to prevent build up of crap

zukihara
01/26/2006, 01:01 PM
I think people who get amazing color and keep it are very skilled at the big 3--lighting, flow and water quality and benefit hugely from the stability they have been able to achieve. Multiply all those positives by Time and you get amazing results.

That's my humble opinion fwiw.

Ti
01/26/2006, 01:02 PM
flow, light and clean water

nemofish2217
01/26/2006, 01:07 PM
im pretty sure that my lighting is sufficient....but should i switch out the 10k for something else, say a 14k? i am running no actinics but the color is still nice right now....not very yellow at all...very crisp and white

zukihara
01/26/2006, 01:14 PM
I switched from 10k to 14k and I was much happier. Should also help the coloration over time if all the other variables are good.

Sindjin
01/26/2006, 01:15 PM
I am running 10ks but switching tonight to 14ks.... to help with the coloration!

twon8
01/26/2006, 01:15 PM
i suggest a vho actinic, they really make zoas look good. You will be stunned how much it alone can make things glow. I have an excalibur also, haven't used it in two years. It didn't work that well. a 14k might not be a bad choice for lighting.

manderx
01/26/2006, 01:17 PM
kalk and carbon.

nemofish2217
01/26/2006, 01:18 PM
yeah, i wasnt sure about the excalibur....but it actually seems to be pulling a lot of crap out....i empty the cup about twice a week...and the stuff is gross... as far as vho's. i love them but my tank is an open top so they aren't really an option....i think that i will eventually switch to 14 k.

Tammy3770
01/26/2006, 01:18 PM
just go 20k

nemofish2217
01/26/2006, 01:20 PM
i had 20 k xm's on my 90 before and they just seemed a little too blue for my taste... i would rather not have them if they are going to look that blue. i dont know if pendants are less blue or not

twon8
01/26/2006, 01:43 PM
set up an auto-top off with kalk. it will add to stability and you won't have to dose the two part.

nemofish2217
01/26/2006, 01:50 PM
im not sure how to set up an auto top off, can you maybe explain how? thanks

heuerfan
01/26/2006, 01:52 PM
Spend an amazing amount of money and you will :)

fish1219
01/26/2006, 01:58 PM
I recommend you add some VHO atinic lighting. URI makes the best atinics. The 10K bulbs are great for growth.

DrBDC
01/26/2006, 02:01 PM
All of what is above is true but don't forget the picking/purchasing of colorful corals. At first, the freebies and the ones you get from frag workshops with your organization are usually on the duller side. As you buy new ones and sell off the older ones you can get some great colors. Just like picking decor of a room. Another thing that can make colorful corals brown is high phosphates.

nemofish2217
01/26/2006, 02:33 PM
i was gonna go by the LFS and see about picking up some PhosBan and putting in my overflow box....does this stuff work well? any experiences?

DrBDC
01/26/2006, 03:00 PM
I brought mine down a lot using it from 1-2 down to .1 using phosban. I run mine in a phosban reactor so I don't know about using it passively.

jasper24
01/26/2006, 03:26 PM
Like folks have said. Pick your corals carefully. There are great colors out there just be patient and do not buy something less attractive hoping that it colors up. I was amazed at how my corals appeared when I switched from a 10K to 14K Phoenix. The colrs went from ok to very nice under the 14K.

MiddletonMark
01/26/2006, 04:19 PM
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6593964#post6593964 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ti
flow, light and clean water

Ditto, add time and patience to let things settle in and acclimate. So often we constantly change lights, flow, food, etc etc and the coral can never quit adapting ... and thus never really thrives the way it would in a long-term stable placement/environment.

Just my take, but I'd focus on water quality above all.

nemofish2217
01/26/2006, 04:24 PM
on the phosban container, it stresses not to have too much flow on the media or other wise it will grind up...how much is too much? do they mean like crashing or splashing through it? I have it tightly packed in a media bag in my over-flow (backside) the return pump is a mag 7. should i move it to the front half or leave it where it is?