Bare Bottom and I'am Lovin' It!!!

[143gadgets]

Barebottom Baby

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_0036Web.jpg

Livestock:

1. False Percs (2)
2. Naso Tang
3. Yellow Tang
4. Blue-Eyed Anthias Female (3)
5. Lyretail Anthias Male
6. Algae Blenny
7. Various Corals (SPS, LPS, Softies)
8. ~115lbs Marshall Island LR

Equipment

75 Gallon AGA
Custom Canopy and Stand
20 Gallon Sea Clear Systems Sump
JBJ ATO w/ 20gallon Resevior

Mag 7 Return
Seio 1100 (2)
Maxi-jet 1200

Icecap 250W MH Ballast (2)
14k 250w SE Bulbs
Icecap 660 Ballast
110w Super Actinic Bulbs (2)
Icecap 4" Variable Speed Fans (2)

Deltec AP600 Protein Skimmer
Neptune Systems Aqua Controller Jr.

What do u think?

[mg426]

i am liking what I see. what do you do to keep everybody happy??
Just curious I am sure the deltec is helping.

[143gadgets]

I do a 15gallon water change everyweek and siphon the tank during that time as well. I dose Kent Marine Tech CB 2-part additive. That is about it. I love the Deltec! Besides the lighting I think it was the best peice of equipment that I have purchased!

[Danster]

Looking good. Nice Pic.

[Brandon's Reef]

love it I too went bb and its the best decision Ive made I have a deltec mce600 comeing in soon.

[JeremyT]

Nice tank! LR looks covered in coralline. Really like the boulder brain coral{not sure of the exact name}in the front, near center.

[Brandon's Reef]

I'm so exited btw LOVE THE TANK just another bb success story.

[Tusken]

So why did you crop off the part of the picture that actually shows the barebottum??

[arconom]

Glad to hear you the BB:)

[gman0526]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6726180#post6726180 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tusken
So why did you crop off the part of the picture that actually shows the barebottum??

It's a trick so nobody says it doesn't look natural :rolleyes:

[143gadgets]

Thanks guys!!!!

JeremyT- That is a "maze brain"

Tusken- Because of the fact that the tank bottom was painted black and because of the angle of the shot. The bottom didn't show in the shot. I will get some more pics for you to show the bottom of the tank. :)

[143gadgets]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6726835#post6726835 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gman0526
It's a trick so nobody says it doesn't look natural :rolleyes:

LOL

[143gadgets]

Here are some more pics!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/ClamZoosWeb.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/RicFinalweb.jpg

[JmLee]

not much of a barebottom guy but i bet your water stays nice and clean because of it! looks good!.

[Bill Shultz]

143,

I just jumped over from Boat Racer's thread. Your tank looks great. Awesome success.

[143gadgets]

Thanks!!! It is pretty clean, looks like there is no water in the tank.

[Boat Racer]

Lookin Good Mang:D

[elephen]

Glad we can add another BB testimonial to the massivly growing pile :)

[nccmike]

May I ask how noisey that skimmer is?

Thanks,

[143gadgets]

THanks guys! Not sure on the quietness of the MCE600, but I heard they are pretty quiet. I have an AP600 and it's not loud at all.

[mokujin22]

looks awesome, Chris! can't wait to see it in person.

what's going on with the egg crate on the right side? is it a hanger for the frag tray?

tony.

[143gadgets]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6732335#post6732335 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mokujin22
looks awesome, Chris! can't wait to see it in person.

what's going on with the egg crate on the right side? is it a hanger for the frag tray?

tony.

Thanks Tony. Yes it is a frag tray that I made. I have a few corals for sale, but those are just some softies that I am getting rid of. Te tank is mostly SPS, but will be totally SPS very soon!

[SDguy]

Glad you're happy with your tank. It really looks great. Will be nice to see it all grown in after a few years.

[hulley]

I'm thinking of going BB also, It will be a FOWLR tank. Do you BB guys point your powerheads towards the bottom to stir up debris to the overflow? Also, how often do you siphon out the crap on the bottom? I have a 90g AGA.

[njp14333]

you say you painted the bottom black.? did you paint inside the tank or outside? (looking for some alternatives to starboard) please take a pic of the bottom if you dont mind i wanna see what it looks like.

[vonodie1]

Wow, your tank looks so awesome! I can only hope that one day mine will look so good.

[GregM779]

looks good but I still don't know why you switched, I think it looked better before.

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

was bottom of tank left out of pic on purpose?

[143gadgets]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6735319#post6735319 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hulley
I'm thinking of going BB also, It will be a FOWLR tank. Do you BB guys point your powerheads towards the bottom to stir up debris to the overflow? Also, how often do you siphon out the crap on the bottom? I have a 90g AGA.

You can point them towards the bottom if you like. I have one behind the rocks and two in the corners pointed towards the front center of the tank. I siphon it once every week when I do a water change.

[143gadgets]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6735397#post6735397 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by njp14333
you say you painted the bottom black.? did you paint inside the tank or outside? (looking for some alternatives to starboard) please take a pic of the bottom if you dont mind i wanna see what it looks like.

I painted it on the outside black. I will try to get a pic for you this week. Looks Awesome though!

[143gadgets]

vonodie1
Thanks!

E-A-G-L-E-S
No the bottom was not left out on purpose it was the angle of the shot. i will get a better pic this week.

GregM779
I have always admired your tank, because of its beauty, amount of fish, and amount of corals. I like sand and I like BB, I really wanted to try something new and see what all the rave was about. :)

[GregM779]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6736413#post6736413 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 143gadgets
GregM779
I have always admired your tank, because of its beauty, amount of fish, and amount of corals. I like sand and I like BB, I really wanted to try something new and see what all the rave was about. :)

Thanks, I was just wondering because I hadn't read about you having problems with your sandbed. Let me know after time the benefits and drawbacks that you see fom both.

[stan zemanek]

i have to agree bare bottom is the way to go! when i had a dsb i was cleaning the glass at least once a day now its like once a week :) and it is so much easier to clean turkey baster and a magnum 350 to suck out the crap and done:p heres my version of a bb with back starboard only 3 months runnin going with mostly softies

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/paintman27/Picture006.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/paintman27/Picture002.jpg

[WILDTHING]

I really like the look of that black starboard! Nice.

[143gadgets]

stan zemanek

NIce tank. If I had known that they had black starboard I would have gotten that instead of painting the bottom of my tank black. Oh well maybe next time.

[143gadgets]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6740521#post6740521 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GregM779
Thanks, I was just wondering because I hadn't read about you having problems with your sandbed. Let me know after time the benefits and drawbacks that you see fom both.

Yup... Never had any problems with algae. I just wanted to try something new. I really like it. though. I do still admire the look of a SSB (DSB was never my thing). I will update with the ups and downs of having this BB. Thanks for your interest in my tank :)

[143gadgets]

Here is a quick pic that allows you guys to see some of the bottom of my tank. And No I did not clean the tank before this pic!

Bottom Pic

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_0008web.jpg

[hulley]

If I go BB, will I still need a refugium? I'm ok with this, really! Do I have to do water changes more often? I currently do a change once a month at about 15%. Do you BB buys have less algae because of the BB? If so, that would be a major plus for me! Thanks for all the help. I plan on re-setting up my 90g soon.

[143gadgets]

I removed my fuge, but there are some people whom have BBs and still keep fuges. I think it depends on how nutrient-free you want your tank. AS far as water changes, I am not really sure because I am new to this as well. I have always done a water change every week. I have noticed that I clean the glass less often than I did when I had a SSB. You might want to think about cooking your rocks as well. I didn't cook mine because they were three years old (purchased them from another reefer) and as you can see I had too much coraline to loose. Good luck and I hope this helps you on your journey to Bare-bottomness!

[hulley]

I'm currently cooking my rocks now! I want to do it right this time, no short cuts!

[143gadgets]

If you are going to go all the way barebottom. Then remove the fuge. just have a sump under your tank. From what I understand cheato likes to trap detritus and will cause an increase in nutrient levels if not cleaned often. I am not sure if this is totally correct. I am just giving you the advice that was given to me. Good luck and don't for get to post pics when you begin setting up the tank.

[stan zemanek]

when i re-plumbed my tank i hooked in a fuge as you can see in the pic on the left hand side. i have not made it operational yet as i cannot seem to get trates even if i wanted to. the thing thats nice about barebottm is the cleaning just dust of your rocks with a turkey baster and suck it up, if you want to keep your water a little on the dirty for softies do less siphoning

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/paintman27/Picture012.jpg l

[143gadgets]

Nice setup!

[rubytuesday]

bare bottom is definately the way to go.

[colesy]

I haven't read much about bare bottem.. What are all the benefits.. are there any down falls to it? Also can you stock the same things you would with a sand bed? Other then some obvious cleaner crew..

[hulley]

Where can I get STARBOARD?

[alienz]

I just think it's hilarious that all that was old is new again. When I first got in the hobby of reefs 1995 or there abouts, it was all about the BB.

Then news came out that tanks crashed after awhile because the BB couldn't mantain for some reason. Usher in the DSB. Then it was Algae scrubbers, then the DSB + fuge.

Lol, ah well, I like to tinker so it's all good to me :)

[speakerguy]

I got out of the hobby back when DSB's were just coming into vogue, and I thought they were crazy then. Now that I'm getting back into the hobby it's nice to see that people have returned to their senses :)

[Reefjunkee]

Beautiful tank!!!

[AdidaKev]

Gorgeous! Very clean-looking.

[143gadgets]

Thanks guys!

[21Reefman]

I have to ask... BOILING your LIVE rock????????????????????????????

Always a bad idea in my opinion, not to mention a waste of money!!! Just sell it and go buy lace rock @ $2.00 lb instead of $6.

[143gadgets]

Nope. I had too much coraline to loose. So I decided not to. I am not really seeing a lot of shedding, probablyy because the rock is over three years old.

[143gadgets]

UPDATE

I purchased some new SPS colonies yesterday and sold some of the LPS Colonies. I am now almost totally SPS. I love It!!!!!

[pnsnowboard]

great looking tank

[143gadgets]

Thanks. I will have some new pics this weekend I hope. I need to find some free time.

[woodstockaz]

Ever think of puttin a mirror UNDER the bottom glass?

[brucoh]

I have to ask... BOILING your LIVE rock????????????????????????????

Cooking live rock is not boiling it. It means to put it in a dark tub for about 6 weeks doing weekly 100% water changes and scrubbing, dunking and swishing the rocks in a series of buckets between these water changes. It's sort of like recuring it. This process supposedly removes the phosphates and detritus from the rock. It's a good thing to do if you have a hair algae problem. I'm on week 4 with my rock. If you have heavy coralline coverage you may not lose it all. My biggest rock was covered in purple and still looks good even after a month in the dark. I wouldn't recommend doing this without having a RO/DI unit, because you have to make a crapload of saltwater and if your goal is to rid the rocks of phosphate, soaking them in tap water would be pointless IMO.

[woodstockaz]

I see. I don't think I will have any problems with the rock. I will be using a combo of lace rock, drilled and posed to perfection with already very alive live rock.
I'm visualizing a corkscrew rock stack that appears to levitate and float in the water.....all above a reflective bare bottom tank.

[WILDTHING]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6871651#post6871651 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by woodstockaz
I see. I don't think I will have any problems with the rock. I will be using a combo of lace rock, drilled and posed to perfection with already very alive live rock.
I'm visualizing a corkscrew rock stack that appears to levitate and float in the water.....all above a reflective bare bottom tank.

sounds nice, be sure to post pics when its done. Also the building of the rock sounds fun, think about starting a thread and showing pics of how you do it.

colleen

[woodstockaz]

I will be documenting every step........I'm also going to incorperate a little of the "great stuff" foam. Ive done a couple of projects with this and have had success. 1 tank 3 year with the foam and all is well.

My only concern right now is wether or not to drill the back of the tank and add a corner overflow to a closed loop......I will not have a sump...........skimming is going to be an issue to decide on as well.

[143gadgets]

Yeah I thought about the mirrir thng, but decided to just paint it black. I don't think it matters in the long run. Mine is already starting to get covered in coraline.

[143gadgets]

New Solar Wrasse

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_0011web.jpg

New SPS

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_0014web.jpg

[SDguy]

oooo...aaahhhh! Very nice!

[Csubseball]

My rock is cooking as we speak! I just brought home my new 150g. Cannot wait to get it up and running. BB here I come!

[143gadgets]

Sounds awesome! Be sure to post pics.

[ssbreef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6784354#post6784354 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 21Reefman
I have to ask... BOILING your LIVE rock????????????????????????????

Always a bad idea in my opinion, not to mention a waste of money!!! Just sell it and go buy lace rock @ $2.00 lb instead of $6.

Im getting ready to cook my 12$ a Ib live rock too.
:) I had to

[143gadgets]

UPDATE

All is well in the BB world. The new wrasse has so much more color now than when I first got him. I am continuing to use Kent Marine 2-part until I get my kalk reactor and calcium reactor. I can see that the amount of detritus that the rock is shedding has decreased since I first started BB in this tank. I am going to try and get some interesting photos this weekend to show you guys!

Thanks for looking.

[archie1709]

Dude, it was you all along that was the BB guy. Yesss!

I walked into this guy's LFS as a FOWLR. I was just looking into these CPR refugiums and lights and stuff. He looked at me and said, I will give you 3 months and I know you'll be doing reef.

I went like "Hell no, I can't afford that. I don't have a setup for that!"

Exactly three months later:

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/files/thumbs/t_dscf1354_165.jpg

Thanks Chris. :lol:

[143gadgets]

LOL!!! I am glad that you decided to convert. Awesome looking tank! I love the aquascaping, especially the caves. Tell your friend he can come by and get the sand when he is ready.


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7057581#post7057581 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by archie1709
Dude, it was you all along that was the BB guy. Yesss!

I walked into this guy's LFS as a FOWLR. I was just looking into these CPR refugiums and lights and stuff. He looked at me and said, I will give you 3 months and I know you'll be doing reef.

I went like "Hell no, I can't afford that. I don't have a setup for that!"

Exactly three months later:

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/files/thumbs/t_dscf1354_165.jpg

Thanks Chris. :lol:

[143gadgets]

My tank is approaching its first birthday on the 15th of this month. I was wondering if you guys celebrate the birthdays of your tank(s). I decided to celebrate mine by ordering two Tunze Stream 6000s and a Tunze 7095 Multi-Controller. I also bought two stag colonies from Rik Leishman which look beautiful as well. I can't wait to put them into the tank. The flow is going to be awesome! I guess I should take some pics this weekend... What do u guys do to celebrate your tank(s)?

[elephen]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6784354#post6784354 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 21Reefman
I have to ask... BOILING your LIVE rock????????????????????????????

Always a bad idea in my opinion, not to mention a waste of money!!! Just sell it and go buy lace rock @ $2.00 lb instead of $6.

HAHAH I really hope that was a joke :)

[elephen]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7162747#post7162747 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 143gadgets
My tank is approaching its first birthday on the 15th of this month. I was wondering if you guys celebrate the birthdays of your tank(s). I decided to celebrate mine by ordering two Tunze Stream 6000s and a Tunze 7095 Multi-Controller. I also bought two stag colonies from Rik Leishman which look beautiful as well. I can't wait to put them into the tank. The flow is going to be awesome! I guess I should take some pics this weekend... What do u guys do to celebrate your tank(s)?

We celebrate with cake, ice cream, strippers and beer! :D

[143gadgets]

Sounds Like a B-day for myself. ;)

[143gadgets]

April 15th is the 1-year Anniversery of my 75 gallon reef tank. I just though i would post a few pics to show you the tank from its early stagees to now. Enjoy!

Tank at 3 Months

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/Jul07_003.jpg

Tank at 12 Months

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_0049web.jpg

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Fish

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Corals

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_0023cropweb.jpg

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I would first like to thank WAMAS. For networking me with a group of AWESOME people.

And many others for helping me with my addiction. Without you, this would not be possible.

Thanks for looking,

Chris

[xtrstangx]

I love your tank.

BB seems like the way to go with all the new technology thats out now (better protein skimmers and ozone/UV). I can't wait till my new BB 120g/180g (can't decide)

Any more pics of your tank?

[143gadgets]

Thanks! I love being BB. I don't have any other pics to post, but i am going to get some more this weekend. I ahve been watching your thred as well and it looks great. I can't wait to see the final product. I would love to have a tank as big as yours, but I dont have the space.

Good Luck

[143gadgets]

Here are a few old pics from last month. I will get some new ones soon.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/0026web.jpg

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[Biggie]

Nice BB. The only way to go IMO.

[NCreefwannabe]

Im really thinking of going BB myself. Still doing research on it before I jump into it. Hopefully my little 55 will start to look alot nicer as well!!

[msuzuki126]

you take some beautiful pictures! i'm setting up a 75 gallon this summer i hope it looks as good as yours someday!

[143gadgets]

Thanks guys. Thanks for looking.

I did some aquascaping and fragging last night. The corals and frags that were sprayed with reef glue accelerator RTN'd. I am pretty ****ED! I lost some nice stags, a blue milli, and a purple tipped valida.

Besides that, here is the lastest FTS!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_0038retweb.jpg

[143gadgets]

cool frag I got

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_05web.jpg

[Andrew]

Dang... I can't get over how nice your tank and pictures look. Hope my tank looks atleast some what like yours. I know you get this question alot but what kind of camera are you using? Also, do you plan on upgrading in the future when the angel gets larger?

[archie1709]

Ey Chris, those frags definitely didn't come from your work. Awesome pictures, bro!! I haven't seen you in a while. Hope to catch you at Congressional one of these days. BTW, Gary's happy that you hooked him up with substrate. However, he hasn't setup his tank yet!!!!!!!!

I agree, you take some awesome pictures! Watch out, there are peeps at Congressional who work there that are saying you altered your pictures color wise. I don't know their names but one's a young newbie kid. I think they're just jealous. Gary saw your tank in person and it was insanely beautiful! Colors are just like how the pictures express.

PS: Have you always had your tunze's?? You are rich. :mixed:

[143gadgets]

Thanks for the compliments!

Andrew
I use a Nikon D100

Archie
I think they are jealous as well. I will be going back there this weekend, but I won't be there much longer. I have had the Tunzes for about a month and I LOVE them. The best thing about them is the flow and Multi controller. They are awesome.

[oceanprincess]

Nice pic of the tank, my tank is bare bottom as well much easier and i love it!!!!! :)

[chip721]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7464913#post7464913 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 143gadgets
I have had the Tunzes for about a month and I LOVE them. The best thing about them is the flow and Multi controller. They are awesome. Chris, Beautiful tank and aquascaping. Very nice job. I've been considering some Tunze 6000's w/controller for a 90g. But I was wondering if they might be too strong if I use a sand substrate. Do you think Tunze would work for you if you weren't BB? Thanks. Chip

[143gadgets]

Andrew- I have a 180 SPS in planning now.

[143gadgets]

oceanprincess- Thanks!

chip721- Thanks! I have one 6000 and one 6100. I will eb upgrading the 6000 to a 6100 in a couple of weeks. I think that you could do one or two 6000s if you get the multi controller. It will allow you to turn the Tunzes down a bit. What kind of corals are you going to keep?

[chip721]

Chris, if I go with the Tunze, I'd definately get the controller too. My delima at this point (besides price) is whether or not I can do a DSB in a 90g with 2 Tunze 6000's (and controller). I hate to pay for a Tunze kit, put a DSB in place, only to have the streams create a constant sand storm. The tank will be primarily LPS and SPS.

If the streams will be too much, then maybe I'll have to go with my original plan: an Oceans Motions 4 way Super Squirt closed loop. I have some Seio's in my existing tanks right now. They're ok, but not my favorite or primary choice for flow. Thanks for your input.

[143gadgets]

I got a new skimmer! It's a Deltec AP701. This pic is when I first set it up so the bubbles are high in the chamber. They are a lot lower now.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_0298web.jpg

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[143gadgets]

Some actinic shots from today.

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[archie1709]

Awesome, Chris! I don't see you in the place (that LFS) anymore lately. Reach for that dream of yours, bro! Photography is not only a profitable career, it's also awesome and fun...just don't join the papparazzi...nonetheless, that's profitable too.

You take you some awesome shots, Chris. Keep it up!!!

[143gadgets]

Thanks Archie! Yeah I am not working over at the fish store anymore. I had to leave town for a couple of weeks to be with my family so I quit. I will be opening up another studio by the end of this year, so things are going very well with my photography. Your tank is looking great! I saw the pics you posted in the skimmerless thread. Nice setup man!

[143gadgets]

Here are some new zoas that I got!

Figured I would give you guys a peek into my collection.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_0045web-1.jpg

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[143gadgets]

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[143gadgets]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_0323Finalweb.jpg

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[143gadgets]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_0019FinalWeb.jpg

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http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_0029FinalWeb.jpg

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http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_0028FinalWeb2.jpg


There You Go!!!! Hope u like them.

[JC VT]

looks awesome, thanks for sharing

[msuzuki126]

Nice stuff! FTS? please. :)

[monaca]

SWEEET!!! How long have inhabitants been BB???

[ridetheducati]

143,

What prompted you to purchase the Deltec over H&S?

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7467889#post7467889 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chip721
Chris, if I go with the Tunze, I'd definately get the controller too. My delima at this point (besides price) is whether or not I can do a DSB in a 90g with 2 Tunze 6000's (and controller). I hate to pay for a Tunze kit, put a DSB in place, only to have the streams create a constant sand storm. The tank will be primarily LPS and SPS.

Shouldnt be a problem. I've got a pair of maximods that do way more than 6000s, in my 58, with a DSB, no problems.

[143gadgets]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8566466#post8566466 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ridetheducati
143,

What prompted you to purchase the Deltec over H&S?

I actually owned an AP600 before the AP701 and I loved it! I saw no reason to get an H&S. The Deltec just works TOO good.

[143gadgets]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8564080#post8564080 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by monaca
SWEEET!!! How long have inhabitants been BB???

Sine January 2006! Thanks!!!

[143gadgets]

Thanks everyone!!! Here is a FTS!!!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_0001a.jpg

[Andrew]

WOW! Got frags. :D

[gman0526]

The tank is looking great, seems like you've got it locked.

[AVALover5498]

143gadgets, There is a really popular radio host here in sioux city that has the same name you do, spelled the same as well. Kinda funny.:)
By the way, really nice tank.:)

[asnatlas]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6917039#post6917039 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 143gadgets
New Solar Wrasse

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/DSC_0011web.jpg

Wrasses like sand yes ?? How is your wrasse doing with your BB ??

[ralphie16]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6781365#post6781365 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by alienz
Then news came out that tanks crashed after awhile because the BB couldn't mantain for some reason.



What a line of Bulls**t. BB tanks don't crash unless your husbandry is completely whack. DSB's crash.

Show me all these people with BB you say who have crashed!

Or were you just making up this fact to validate a reason to post?

[HBtank]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8580000#post8580000 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ralphie16
What a line of Bulls**t. BB tanks don't crash unless your husbandry is completely whack. DSB's crash.

Show me all these people with BB you say who have crashed!

Or were you just making up this fact to validate a reason to post?

You are no better, there is no evidence that DSB, SSB or BB have caused tanks to crash.

Just because a tank has one and crashed does not mean it was the cause. And considering that BB are relatively new, it is impossible to make a comparison.

I have read posts from plenty of people who have made the switch to BB and had reduced success, only to switch back to sand and have their tanks become better. I have also read people's experiences with sand having problems, making the switch and having more success with a BB.

It is all preference IMO.

You're just as bad as the poster who seemed to anger you. on that note.. take a chill pill.

I personally find BB to be totally unnatural looking. It makes the choice easy for me. As well as the hundreds of successful sand filled tanks I have seen lets me be confident in the face of some who seemingly live by BB.

[143gadgets]

Thanks everyone.

I think it really depends on the person. Any method can be successful. BB, SSB, or DSB. Just make sure you follow the right steps to make that method work for you.

[143gadgets]

The wrasse is doing great! No problems here.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8579751#post8579751 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by asnatlas
Wrasses like sand yes ?? How is your wrasse doing with your BB ??

[Froggy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8739311#post8739311 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 143gadgets
Thanks everyone.

I think it really depends on the person. Any method can be successful. BB, SSB, or DSB. Just make sure you follow the right steps to make that method work for you.

Exactly. Great looking tank by the way ! :D

Can't everyone just accept the fact that BB and sand bed tanks of varying depths all can and do work. The key is setting the tank up properly for the style and system you choose for your tank i.e. proper flow, skimmer size and type, inhabitants, etc. Any tank set up against what it is designed to do will fail. A properly setup and maintained tank with balance will succeed with bare bottom or sand.

Gadgets your tank looks great. Keep doing what you are doing as it looks like you are doing it right. This is coming from someone with sand in their tank. :)

[purebullet417]

im thinking about going bb on my new tank im getting for xmas i still think i need to do a little reasearch still but thses pics are realy leaning me twards it

[CHAOSTACTICS]

Great looking tank, long arse thread =D

[SDguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8579751#post8579751 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by asnatlas
Wrasses like sand yes ?? How is your wrasse doing with your BB ??

Fairy wrasses don't sleep in the sand like some other wrasses.

[Dr.FuManchu]

DSB tanks crash with alarming frequency. Even just doing routine maintenance can disturb the sandbed and release Hydrogen Sulfide gas and crash the tank. Yeah DSB can work for some time but how long? a year, 2, 3, 4 who knows. In my opinion it is too much of a hassle to maintain. Although I like the look of sand or something on the bottom, I think DSB has a place for those reefers that want to maintain it and treat it like another living organism in the tank.

[143gadgets]

Thanks everyone! Here are a couple new pics!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_1402.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_1399web.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_1382cropweb.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_1371web.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_081.jpg

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8741273#post8741273 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dr.FuManchu
DSB tanks crash with alarming frequency. Even just doing routine maintenance can disturb the sandbed and release Hydrogen Sulfide gas and crash the tank. Yeah DSB can work for some time but how long? a year, 2, 3, 4 who knows. In my opinion it is too much of a hassle to maintain. Although I like the look of sand or something on the bottom, I think DSB has a place for those reefers that want to maintain it and treat it like another living organism in the tank.

No, no they dont.


For every DSB tank that crashed, I can find you a BB one that did.


I've seen too many 10+ year old DSB tanks to not realize that properly kept, they can last pretty much forever. Cut the silly Barebottom zealot crap, ok?

[143gadgets]

OK Guys let's stop it with the DSB vs BB. Either one can work with success. I have used SSb and BB and both worked very well. I know of many people W/ DSB that have beautiful tanks as well. In the end there are many roads to success. Chosse the road you would like to take and enjoy it to the fullest!

[stan zemanek]

can't ya just feel the bb dsb love in here:love2:

[rsaavedra]

Way to go Show Off!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

:beer:

Raf

[cbashaw]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8745197#post8745197 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rsaavedra
Way to go Show Off!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

:beer:

Raf

Yeah "Show off"

If my cyano farm looked like that I would be a show off too :D

[143gadgets]

LOL!!! Thanks guys!

[143gadgets]

Here are a couple new pics!!!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_1762web.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_1772web.jpg

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[143gadgets]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_1804web.jpg

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http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_1802web.jpg

[SDguy]

Gotta love milli's :D

[143gadgets]

Here are some macro pics I took a couple days ago. ;)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_1795web.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_1790web.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_1780web.jpg

[smurray]

Beautiful tank Chris! Well... Its final, my new tank is going BB. Time to hit up google! LoL! Cheers man!

[143gadgets]

I recently added a 30g 24"x24"x13.5" LPS/Zoa tank to the same system as my 75. I am interested to see what affect it will have because it has a 2-3" sand bed in it.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_6155.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_6154.jpg

[nUgZ]

Very nice. I love the collection you've got going.

[143gadgets]

UPDATE

I ended up breaking down my 75g SPS and 30g LPS/Zoa tanks. I have replaced them with a completely new tank with new stock. I'll have pics up soon!!!!! it was time for me to start over again and enjoy watching everything grow out.

Here is a pic of the 75g a couple months before I broke it down.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/CHR_6125web.jpg

[nUgZ]

Post a link to the new thread please!!

[143gadgets]

Hi everyone! I have been back and forth between tanks and have finally found one that i will LOVE. It will be here on Saturday if all goes well. Here is some info for u.

Well... As it's been said... I am going to be breaking down the two nanos as I'm receiving a much bigger tank. :) The tank will be here on Saturday. I have a custom stand being built that arrives the same day :) So for all of you that want to say, "I told u so" Please feel free to do so now. :D

I have always loved rimless/shallow tanks and have wanted to order one from quite some time. Once I saw Danskim's I couldn't resist and put in my order a week later. :) I decided to order it from glass cages. I am having a friend build my stand. I wanted it modeled after an Elos system. Since it is a rimless tank, I'll have a floating canopy similar to the one pictured below.

Tank:
48"x24"x18" (Yes that is correct... 24" deep and only 18" tall)
3-sides Starphire, Rimless, Black silicon on all seams, No trim anywhere, Corner overflow box w/ black cover.

Lighting:
(2) 250w Icecap Ballasts
(2) 250w Radium 20ks
(1) Icecap 660
(2) 48" ATI B+ bulbs in Icecap SLR T5 Reflectors
(2) 48" URI VHO Super Actinics

Flow:
(4) Tunze 6055 Nano Streams
(1) Tunze 7095 Multi-controller
(1) Eheim 1260 return pump

Control:
Neptune AC Jr
JBJ ATO System

Filtration/Misc:
Deltec APF600 Protein Skimmer
Deltec PF501 Calcium Reactor
Sanders 25mg/hr Ozonizer
Milwalkee ORP Controller
Phosban Reactor for Carbon

Here are some pics for you all.

[143gadgets]

Here is what the stand is modeled after.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/Stand/Dsc001Large-8.jpg

Canopy
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/Stand/fin.jpg

Some equipment
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/photo-51.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/photo-50.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/photo-49.jpg

Shallow holding tank:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/photo-54.jpg

[nUgZ]

Oh man I can't wait to see this set up. Please let me know how you like the tank...I've been considering a tank from GC's, but would love to hear you opinion. Thanks.

[Aj Flip]

good job on upgrading, as the yellow tangs grow, 75g would be too small for them

[shoprat001]

Still going BB? How did the BB display work out with the 2" sand bed in the frag tank?

Norm

[Poisonus Yeti]

So your moving from a 75g to a 90g?

[mr294]

I had a feeling the nanos wouldn't last too long :D

[143gadgets]

Nugz- I'll be sure to let you know how it goes. I'll post some detailed pics as well.

Aj- I no longer have any tangs and probably won't have any in this tank. I'm thinking 15-20 very small fish. (Damsels, cardinals, etc)

Norm- U know it!!!! BB all the way! :)

Poisonus Yeti- Well... technically I'm moving from two 18g nanos, but who's counting. :)

mr294- What can i say.... You all were right. :)

[143gadgets]

NEW TANK IS HERE!!!!

Picked it up today and it looks awesome! Thanks Bob and Scott! I don't even understand why people complain about the silicone. Mine looks really nice. There is only silicone between the glass panes. Very clean job.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/photo-60.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/photo-59.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/photo-58.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/143gadgets/photo-57.jpg

[sammy113]

wow chris, your 75 was awesome and this 90 will be sweet! I'll be tagging along on this one. Nice work

[Mr.A]

Nice! cant wait to see it stocked

[Znut Reefer]

Nice. I have been BB for over 5 yrs now. It only gets better. :)

[nUgZ]

That's what I wanted to hear. It looks great.

[Beenalongtime79]

Nice tank, it'll mature nicely I'm sure!

[143gadgets]

Thanks everyone! The stand is taking a little longer than anticipated, but no worries. Means it's gonna be even better built! I should have it in another week or two. :)

[sue711]

Just saw this thread, and wondering if there is an update with your new rimless tank?