Elos NS 1000 pics

[elosusa]

Here are some pictures to go along with the videos in the other thread. Let me know if you have any questions. Jesse

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/113960ns4.jpg
Skimmer body.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/113960ns1.jpg
skimmer neck. The nylon screws are for cleaning the body, not for the collection cup. The collection cup simply rests on an o-ring and can be lifted directly off. I use a little silicone grease and it seals nicely. So much easier than the locking necks that I have used. I would rearrange my sump every time I cleaned the cup on my last skimmer, no matter how much silicone grease I used.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/113960ns3.jpg
The collection cup.

[sixliner6]

Looks pretty good! I would buy one and the whole system if I could afford it:) I do love the looks of a rimless tank. I am sure Elos will do very well here in the U.S.

[elosusa]

These were taken late tonight. This is about what I am getting daily. This is a small cup. We have a large cup that can be added as an option but this cup works for me because it is a tight fit getting the cup out from the cabinet. As a point of reference I included a picture of a popular German needlewheel and the color of skimmate it was producing. The old skimmer is a very good product, as well. I just want to show what another good skimmer was doing on the same system. Jesse

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/113960undertank.jpg
It is not the greatest picture but you can sort of see the skimmate color. Also notice the size difference. Both of these skimmers use the same eheim 1260 but the Elos eheim is not modified in any way.

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/113960skimcup3.jpg

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/113960skimcup2-med.jpg

http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/113960skimcup1-med.jpg

[doxyman]

Excellent sludge shots :thumbsup: How long did it take to collect that much skimmate?

BTW Jesse, did you get my PM yesterday?

[elosusa]

doxyman,
A little longer than a day since I cleaned so late.
Nope didn't get your pm and I'm checking it right now. Sorry, I usually get emailed when I get pm's and I didn't even know. Thanks for telling me. I'll have to see what happened with the email notification.

[TheMoneyPit]

Hey Jesse, when you get a chance would you mind posting a picture of how the collection cup attaches to the skimmer and of the venturi as well. Thanks, Jim

[TheMoneyPit]

BTW HOW LOUD ARE THOSE SKIMMER PUMPS..... sorry I was yelling over the noise of my iwaki 100 that feeds my current skimmer.

:strooper: (my son wanted us to add this)

[elosusa]

Here you go Moneypit. This is a question that a few people have asked and since I was cleaning I figured I'd take some pictures and explain it. The skimmer cup simply rests on an o-ring that is on the top of the skimmer body. There is a groove machined out for the o-ring so it is stays in place nicely. I use a little silicone grease and you can see that on the detail shots of the bottom of the cup. The nylon screws are only for a complete cleaning that can be done as needed. I have done 1 complete cleaning in about 6 months and it really didn't need it. So here you go..........

A detail shot of the lid. The little detail put into the brand is what I was trying to photo. Hopefully it will show up in the picture.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/583/113960NS-lid.jpg

This is the bottom of the skimmer cup. You can see where the o-ring touches the bottom of the cup by the circle made by the silicone grease I use. The silicone grease is my little addition because I use it on every o-ring. A little goes a long way. I used a little too much in this case:) Some of that is water that I didn't dry off.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/583/113960NS-bottom.jpg

Here the skimmer cup is being put on. You can see the injector on the right and you can't see how the water enters the skimmer body with a machined out acrylic piece that shoots the water/air mix down into the inner chamber. Very hard to picture this. The other thing you can't see is how the skimmer pump is on while I have the cup removed! You simply cut off the air with a little clamp and the bubble column will drop so you can remove the cup. Another interesting note is even when the air is completely clamped off, there are still bubbles in the mixture. This is because the water is shot down into the inner chamber which produces bubbles by itself. This type of injection is patented and it is very effective.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/583/113960NS-cup1.jpg

Finally, the skimmer cup is installed.
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/583/113960NS-top2.jpg

Let me know if you have any questions. Jesse

[elosusa]

Oh and the eheim pumps are very quiet. We only use eheim pumps in all of our products because they are quiet, reliable and readily available. The air tube has a silencer on it so you don't get that standard "gurgling, sucking" sound that we all know and love.

[TheMoneyPit]

I'm really impressed by the quality of the material, that is a beautiful skimmer.

[Klay]

nice looking skimmer

but i'm not very impressive bubble size. I messaged a few european reefers on other forums who use this skimmer and they all say the same thing about it's mediocre performance.

(compared to a european-made needlewheel skimmer like a deltec/h&S/bk)


the collection cup thing is pretty neat. is there any chance of it leaking a little? (like if you're running ozone and you havent' re-applied silicone grease for a while)?

how much do they cost?

[elosusa]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7004441#post7004441 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Klay
nice looking skimmer

but i'm not very impressive bubble size. I messaged a few european reefers on other forums who use this skimmer and they all say the same thing about it's mediocre performance.

(compared to a european-made needlewheel skimmer like a deltec/h&S/bk)


the collection cup thing is pretty neat. is there any chance of it leaking a little? (like if you're running ozone and you havent' re-applied silicone grease for a while)?

how much do they cost?
The NS 1000 is 799.99.
In one of the pictures on this thread you will see one of the brands you mentioned taken at night to show what was produced in relatively the same amount of time. This is a very good skimmer, as well. While all these units have been tested next to the NS, I did a little informal test here before I decided to bring Elos to the US. Like you, I was a bit skeptical that this size skimmer could compete with the much larger needlewheel skimmer I was using. I can assure you that the performance is very good. Not only is the performance more than comparable but the ease of use and the quality of the unit also compare favorable to other skimmers.The skimmer is ozone safe. The possibility of an air or ozone leak from this point is very remote. The silicone grease is something I use because I use it on all o-rings but I am sure there are people not using it with good results. Let me know if you have any other questions. Jesse

[TheMoneyPit]

Klay,
I would really like to talk to some Elos skimmer owners, any chance you could direct me to the forums that your european reefers hang. I'm considering replacing my HSA 3000 with either the 2000 or 4000 and would love to hear what they have to say.
Thanks, Jim

[TheMoneyPit]

Jesse,
Sorry to be a pain, would you mind taking a few more picture of the skimmer with it off. I'm trying to understand how the water is injected and how it exits the skimmer. Does it release a lot of bubbles? I'd love to see more as it is close to impossible to find any information about these skimmers anywhere on the net.

Thanks,
Jim

[elosusa]

TheMoneyPit,
I will have some in on friday and I will take some pictures of the skimmer unassembled to give you a better idea of how it works. It is a very simple design but it is hard to explain without pictures. The bubbles are not a problem, at all. Thanks, Jesse

[TheMoneyPit]

Thanks Jesse, I look forward to seeing them. What models are you getting in on Friday?

[elosusa]

The 500 and the 1000.

[TheMoneyPit]

Waiting patiently for the big ones...

[elosusa]

I have received a bunch of calls and emails about the NS skimmers and how they work. Most want comparisions between this skimmer and other european skimmers. I will do my best to explain the differences and I hope it clears up some confusion.
1. The first thing you must realize is how different this is from your standard needlewheel and most injector styles because of the way the air/water is injected. It is injected from the top via a patented injector that jhale has done a good job of showing in his detail shots in his thread here. The key to this type of injection is contact time. In most skimmers bubbles travel to the cup with no restriction except from the "bottleneck" made by the smaller neck of the skimmer. With our injection the bubbles are "fighting" the constant injection of polluted water and air from the injector at the top along with a "bottleneck" made by the smaller opening around the injector. The contact time in this style is approx. 10x that of a "normal" skimmer. This is key.
2. This skimmer is very simple to use. Unlike some skimmers there is not a lot that needs to be adjusted. Provided that you are within a reasonable salinity range and have some pollution(who doesn't :p ) the only thing that needs to be adjusted is the air input. Because the pumps we use are so powerful , most will find that you will not need to open the air up much in order to produce skimmate. As a matter of fact, even with the air shut completely off this type of injection will produce bubbles. If you want to open the air up more without producing "wet" skimmate a larger pot can be added which extends the inner/bubble chamber and allows you to inject more air and hold more skimmate.
3. This skimmer is of the highest quality. The acrylic work and the attention to detail is evident and it really must be seen to appreciate. Again, jhales photos do a good job of showing this.
4. Because we use this injection you are not locked in to using a modified pump. We match our skimmers to standard eheim pumps but another pump could be used.
5. Other things. Compact size, easy to remove pot (no unions), different installation options, full access for cleaning.
Hope that helps. If you have questions give me a call or an email or start a discussion here. I have used and still use most of the skimmers that people are asking me to compare to ours and I will likely be able to give you a first hand opinion of the similarities and key differences. Obviously, I am selling Elos skimmers but it is only one of the products we offer and I will do my best to stay objective. There are some very good skimmers on the market and all of them have good and not-so good points so if the discussion is here lets keep it honest and without emotion, if that is possible:D .I know how some of these skimmer threads get and I don't want to be responsible for starting one of "those". Anyways, here is a picture of the optional jumbo pot that you can add to the NS500 or NS1000 to allow for more air input and collecting more skimmate. This picture is of the NS500 standard pot next to the NS500 jumbo pot with a metric tape measure for size. The NS1000 version is the same height but a larger diameter. The standard for both the NS500 and NS1000 are approx. 5.5" and the jumbos are 8.5".
http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/500/113960jumbocup.jpg
NS500 Standard Pot vs. NS500 Jumbo Pot

[Radar1]

can you take a pic down into the skimmer. The intake section of the skimmer is confusing?

[TheMoneyPit]

Check out the "NS-1000, I got one :-)" thread in this forum, there are a lot of good pictures.